1) Never make fun of anyone doing any honest work. Taking a'regular' job after being famous takes balls. 2) Ric would do anything for $1M, he was HHH's bag carrier for years for much less.
He's not mocking him for doing honest work. He's mocking him for acting like he's a big deal in wrestling and some kind of academic genius then doing what he's doing.
@@ronniemacdonald2768 Ah, so he's saying people who do that type of work can't be smart? I get you. So he's making fun of the blue-collar, working class that make up the vast majority of his fan base, which in itself seems to fall short of being a genius move.
@@JamesMMcCann Ric Flair is obviously a legend in wrestling...but he absolutely fucked up in many other areas of his life. He honestly had it made for life but again he just continues to burn bridges and make dumbass decisions left and right. i totally agree with what you said. It takes HUGE balls to go back to a traditional 9 to 5 job after doing something like wrestling for years. Shane has always had a high opinion of himself to put it politely, but i'm not going to mock someone for like you said, doing honest work.
@@eternal60214 They never retire. Unless they're dead they always want to make a comeback at some point. I think Ventura is the only guy who retired and stayed retired from ever having 'one last match.'
Yeah ric flair is not the man, hes a complete loser, a real man doesn't need someone to bail them out of debts, cheating in all his marriages, multiple divorces, and failed as a father, his oldest doesn't talk to him and the other son pretty much committed suicide
THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE is that Douglas had to take that corporate job because Douglas OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH SUCH A SUCCESS in the wrestling business like Ric Flair DID.... THat's why Douglas keeps talking about people like Ric Flair to keep himself in the spotlight while Ric Flair DOESN'T NEED to talk about poor Douglas to make himself famous. Ric Flair has financial issues because he has obviously lived a life of a fame nature boy. Ric Flair didn't trash the corporate job itself but Shane Douglas as a wrestler who failed and he had to take that job.
Shane probably doesn't have to work for anything like that but for medical benefits. Which is a shame. Ric has been bailed out numerous times in the past by his buddies and he can't hope to ever pay back.
@DimebagVision if rather be an independent thinking "pissant", than a grown man that worships and makes excuses for another grown man. I like Ric Flair but he's just another human
@@jameydavis4263 because flair is a garbage human being who seems to forget he would never have had the matches he had if it was not for the other person on the other side of the ring from him not to mention flair tried for most of his career to screw over everyone he faced because he was an extremely little man who thought he was the only one on the card
It says a lot about a person who considers their self better than the people working normal jobs who supported their career. Lot of "nobodies" bought Flair merch over the years...glad I never did.
Shane took a job to pay the bills. Flair himself said he begged Vince for $800,000 because he was broke. Flair wasted more money than probably anyone in the business. He's lucky so many people like him, or he himself would be working retail after his bankruptcies, blown money and 4 divorces.
@@Wadzillia I don't mean now in the moment in 2020 when he's 71 almost 72. After he's been with the WWE again for 10 years and after his resurgence of popularity in pop culture and rap music and endorsements and documentaries, after his financial troubles and divorces have been sorted. I'm talking about in the past, he could have ended up there. And why is Flair talking down to retail employees? I'm sure a lot of wrestling fans work in that type of employment.
@@travisrodesiler7744 He's talking down to Shane Douglas. Shane told people when he came in to wrestling. About how he chose wrestling over being a doctor. That's why Vince gave him the Dean gimmick. Shane always let everyone know he had a degree and how high his IQ was. It's surprising he works in retail.
@@Wadzillia he doesn't work in retail any longer. This shoot interview with Flair was years ago. The whole Douglas retail thing broke the news back in 2008. I believe he teaches now.
Shane Douglas is now a district manager at Target. More than likely he's a regional manager by now & he said on an interview with Hannibal TV that as district manager, he makes more money doing that than he did in the wrestling business
No need to insult a man making a good living, and I have more respect for Douglas for knowing when his time was up and embracing a regular life working 9-5 than wrestlers who don't know when to let go of the past.
You act like Douglas was a saint. He talked all that shit but his career didn’t show up for it. Ok “the franchise” really? He wasn’t even relevant, only to some smart mark in a bingo hall in a Philadelphia.
Shane fucking sucks tho he drags in promos he is mediocre in the ring you know why Shane was ecw champ same reason Justin credible was champ no one else would want his garbage ass he ruined the ecw main event he held the belt and he always had the worst match on the ecw card
I’m not a Shane Douglas fan but there’s a big misconception about the whole Target thing. He wasn’t a rank and file clerk he was for a time in their management training program. Managers of big retail stores like Target and Wal-Mart clear six figures easily. That’s more than most wrestlers make. So he wasn’t the “checkout boy” at K-Mart. It’s hard work but why take a shot at a guy who’s willing to do what it takes to fulfill his responsibilities? Flairs an idiot.
Because Flair's never been honest in his life. He's also had to be bailed out by friends for not paying taxes multiple times. He's not the greatest wrestler ever either, that's all bullshit people love to say because others have said it. Bret's best matches are far and above Flair's greatest matches. Savage also had better matches than flair.
I always thought the same thing when Flair said that in interviews. Like that makes him less of a man. So Douglas is not above getting a real 9-5. He sounds like more of a real man than Flair even if he was flipping burgers. Im sure Flair will be selling his HOF rings someday soon before he croaks.
@@sleazyfellow lol stay off drugs my son. Ric Flair is the goat and anybody saying otherwise is the a fake wrestling fan. Ric has more charisma and talent in his pinky finger than Crybaby Bret Fart has ever had.😆
Considering he has a Net Worth of 3 million dollars, I doubt he has trouble supporting himself.www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=moneyinc.com/ric-flair-net-worth/&ved=2ahUKEwiayOaEp7LsAhXCtlkKHUjBBC0QFjAPegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw3KTmI0DjS9i8SlfteZdNNy&cshid=1602617419381
@@Wadzillia this interview was before his recent resurgence. When this was recorded, flair was below the red and soon had to beg the wwe to help him out.
THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE is that Douglas had to take that corporate job because Douglas OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH SUCH A SUCCESS in the wrestling business like Ric Flair DID.... THat's why Douglas keeps talking about people like Ric Flair to keep himself in the spotlight while Ric Flair DOESN'T NEED to talk about poor Douglas to make himself famous. Ric Flair has financial issues because he has obviously lived a life of a fame nature boy. Ric Flair didn't trash the corporate job itself but Shane Douglas as a wrestler who failed and he had to take that job.
@@gojakla12 wtf? Shane douglas hasn't talked trash about someone in years unless he is asked for his perspective about something that happened in the past. Outside of that, he has for the most part moved on from the wrestling world. And your logic is weird. Douglas saved up his money and was able to do something else in life, yet he's a nobody in the wrestling business because Flair was able to live the millionaires lifestyle and Douglas couldn't?
@@Salesman How has Douglas saved any money when he had to take 9 to 5 job???? This logic is weird. You obviously take 9 to 5 job only when you need some money and not when you saved your money from your previous career. Of course Douglas answers questions about Flair. However the way how he does it is clear hate. Why people like Sting don't care about Flair running naked in hotels and have no hate for him? Because they have obviously achieved the same level of success like Ric Flair has. Go figure only people like Douglas who "were happy" to move out from the wrestling world answer hate about Ric Flair. I bet you Douglas would stay in the wrestling world if Vince would like to use him. Vince Mcmahon said it clearly about Douglas. "I can't believe that son of a bitch complains about his back when he has the opportunity to be in the Madison Square Garden."
A million dollars......flair you would of wrestled him for 50 bucks a few years ago, gotta go against flair here nothing wrong with having a good normal job, and I’m no Shane Douglas fan
@@johncastaneda8037 just remember bro all these places they brag about going to bars/clubs/restaurants/stores wouldnt exist if ppl didnt work there. The fact that ppl with money try to shit on ppl who work at those places should tell you all you need to know about them. If you're a real person then you treat a waitress the same as you would the president. Also fuck peoples negative ass opinions
Ric wasn't rich here. He was so far in the red and owed everyone money. Then that bs story about the draw. He had money but wanted $500 from his contract. So he didn't have to spend his own money. Lmfao
THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE is that Douglas had to take that corporate job because Douglas OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH SUCH A SUCCESS in the wrestling business like Ric Flair DID.... THat's why Douglas keeps talking about people like Ric Flair to keep himself in the spotlight while Ric Flair DOESN'T NEED to talk about poor Douglas to make himself famous. Ric Flair has financial issues because he has obviously lived a life of a fame nature boy. Ric Flair didn't trash the corporate job itself but Shane Douglas as a wrestler who failed and he had to take that job.
Last I checked Douglas was a Store Director (manager) for Target. Those guys make well over 100k a year with bonuses figured in (I used to work in retail management, so I know the chain store pay scales). Maybe not the million dollar pay rate some top stars in wrestling make, but not a bad payout. At least Dean was smart enough to get out of wrestling as he got older to pursue something else, vs, the typical wrestlers (like Flair) who don't know how to do anything else with their lives, so they keep on going until they are a joke to watch in the ring, and end up scraping by in the indie circuit.
Watched an interview with Shane a few months ago. He said that he is also drawing retirement from his teaching career. So add about 30k a year retirement plus health benefits to his $100k a year Target salary. He’s actually doing pretty well compared to most wrestlers.
@@robertpeacock894 considering his run in IMPACT and the apathy he had while worked there I would say he was grossly overpaid while he was there like Booker T and RVD. He made no contributions and put fourth zero effort to even try
vampiras coffin I’m not gonna say it was fact or fiction but Ric Flair clearly didn’t think anything about Shane Douglas to be talking to him like he did
@@flyguy7825 that is just it flair wouldnt say jack shit to shanes face physically because unlike shane flair cant and never has been able to actually fight
I rather be a working man with some pride like Douglas than an old man living in the past like Flair who had to beg for money. Douglas also has a college degree and can exist in the real world. Something Flair can never do. Listen to his comment bitching about the TNA guys having to share a room and eating pizza like that is beneath the great Ric Flair. As if he didn't do anything for money cause he wasn't smart enough to save any
I agree with everyone here. Regardless of how I feel about someone personally I respect anyone who takes an honest job than to go bankrupt or broke as many times as flair has but pretends to live a life he can not afford, like flair does. How very sad that flair puts down regular people. Those same people who bought his merch, watched him on their days off and bought his PPVs. What a total jerk.
@@sese6227 That's one warped way of looking at it. The other way is he's an old guy that is still wanted and respected by fans in a way that Douglas never will be. How many music videos has Shane Douglas been in? What move do wrestlers do were the fans still associated with him? Is Douglas also considered arguably the best ever at his profession? LOL
It’s funny flair talking shit about TNA not footing hotel bills, when back in mid 90s that’s what the WWF was forcing guys to do. But Ric was in WCW with guaranteed money
Also if it wasn't for HHH being a Flair mark he would have been cast aside by Vince and probably in a nursing home by now cause he is broke. He didn't work for WWE his whole life. Vince never gave a crap about Flair cause he was a NWA/WCW guy and not his creation. HHH is the only reason WWE ever had anything to do with Flair after the late 90s and he pretty much owes HHH his life now
That's such a pathetic nonsense. What a final good bye Ric Flair had from all wrestlers in 2008?? Undertaker got on his knees and shook his hand. Could Shane Douglas receive such a good bye in WWE?? WHAT A NONSENSE :-)) Also Undertaker had a match with Flair after Vince. Mcmahon. No matter how much HHH would love Ric Flair if Vince wouldn't want to use him as a businessman WWE would never use him. Triple H said perfectly in 2004 off the record interview. The legend like Ric Flair can't be really fired. There is always some use for him. Even if it would be only for fooling around.
@@gojakla12 he’s not saying he’s not a legend.. he’s saying that without HHH he wouldn’t of even gotten the opportunity to shake takers hand that night or have a retirement match at mania because Vince wouldn’t of done it himself lmao Flair would’ve been retired with probably no money if it wasn’t for HHH which is 1000% true
Ric, what's wrong working at Target or whereever? If Douglas is happy working at Target or a regular job, why trash the guy? Plus, has Flair heard of the backstage reputation of the Kliq? They would make Shane's life (or anyone's life) a living hell! Don't get me wrong, Ric Flair is one of the greatest names and performers of our industry.. But, kids, this is a PRIME example of what an OFFICE ASSKISSER sounds like.
The thing is if Douglas is going to say the kliq treated him like shit we only have his word. The same for the kliq saying certain things didn't happen. Yet Shane seems to think because he was a big star in ecw he was a bigger star than he ever was.
Ric flair gets offended if someone in the business doesn't think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread or that the 4 horseman ain't the greatest faction of all time . The wrestling legends roundtables are a prime example of that . He interrupts everyone the entire time
@@scurbag I mean you could argue the horsemen as Ric, Arn, Tully and insert random 4h here carried WCW in the early 90's the issue was there was too many horsemen
@@rockmusicfan9278 no one's debating that but he can't deal with ppl saying DX or the Nwo or whoever was better than the horseman , it's an opinion based on what you like as an individual . They certainly paved the way but that doesn't mean others didn't surpass them ...
Flair did this interview for two reasons... 1) Money. He never saved any (Or very little) of his earnings, never paid his taxes and treated his wives like dirt so he ended up having to pay for expensive divorce settlements. 2) He was so desperate to get back "in" with the WWE so he used this interview to "bury" TNA/Impact and "put over" WWE/Vince/Triple H in the hope they would watch it or at least hear about it. He did end up going back though, so I guess it worked after all...
Shane Douglas was in the management program at Target not a checkout boy, but even if he was there's no reason to look down on a man for working an honest job and providing for his family. Ric Flair is a mess, before you start criticising others maybe you should look at yourself. How many times has he been broke or pissed all his millions away? How many failed marriages? Flair has stayed in the business out of necessity and changes his tune based on who's paying his current wage. Snake.
That’s Flair and Douglas though. I agree with you as it’s putting ever working person down. Yet Douglas went after Flair for years about his age etc. so there is still nuclear heat between them. It’s not a pass, just a justification.
I'll always appreciate Flair for entertaining me as a kid, but Shane Douglas was a great talent and he spits the truth. Flair not sounding credible here. Woooooooo!
@@kamfisher1714 calm down junior, I didn't say Douglas was as accomplished as Flair. I'm just saying between the two, I think Flair is more full of shit than Douglas, who comes across as genuine. I'll always love Flair as a character.
@@kamfisher1714 I think there is some truth to that but Douglas may also just have been less inclined to play politics. Flair on the other hand, was a politician at heart. Douglas is very underrated unfortunately, and has left a significant mark on wrestling. Flair on the other hand, is recognized as one of the best of all time, which is mostly warranted, based on his work ethic, but on talent, he wasn't the best in my book.
Cd B There’s truth to it’s been confirmed by Bruce Prichard, Eric Bischoff, Heyman you know people who actually worked with him. “Politician” oh my god you Smarks don’t get it don’t you. Of course he was it’s the wrestling business. If Douglas was in the same position as flair he would’ve done the same thing. Douglas was cool but he wasn’t a top 15 wrestler or even 20 in his prime 1993-2001.
Look, he was one of my favorite wrestlers. But we all dam know, for the right price, he would be in the ring with Douglas. If he's doing internet interviews, he would do that. It's one thing that we might be Marks. But, we aren't this fckin stupid.
Love Ric but when you have to file for bankruptcy like 900 times and have constant money problems you have no right to bash someone on the way they make money
Did Flair stiff Feinstein for money too, or was that just the Highspots guy? Considering all of the people Flair has f____ed over, it's hard to keep them all straight.
What????? He works for WWE his whole life? Around 9.5 years, with another 2 dates all the way back in 1976 and whenever they need him now. Also, I really don't don't get why childish Wrestling people rag on Troy "Shane Douglas" Martin for managing a retail store? He was earning money and providing for his family. Ric Flair is the greatest of all time, but Richard Fliehr is a lousy human being who never saved his money, was unfaithful to at least one of his wives and was hardly there for his Children. It's sad how desperate to get back in to the WWE here, just "burying" TNA/Impact in the hope that someone from WWE would watch! Guess it worked in the end though as he went back... :-/
@@michaelallanrubin2376 Flair's definitely a bum. An amazing wrestler back in his day, but he's definitely a fuckin' bum. Like the dude should have been able to retire and be comfortable and managed his money so poorly he had to come back well after his prime for more paydays. Don't get me wrong, I love the Nature boy, but he's not anyone I would endorse as a role model.
He showed up in the WWF in the early 90s and did not draw at all. He was a relic of the past at that point. He stole buddy rodgers nickname and harley races ring style...well not all the way, but he stole quite a bit. Next to hulk hogan, ultimate warrior, randy savage and even Piper, flair is pretty bland. His promos can be good, but he's not what the public wanted in the 90s in the mainstream. His matches are all the same as well. He has no space to talk about others.
I'm glad to see people here stick up for Shane. Ric flair the wrestler is more compelling than Shane Douglas. But people should look up to Troy Martin, over Richard Flieh,r the person any day of the week
I loved the WWE promo in the ring when Foley said "I might not have the accolades that you do Ric, but one thing that I can say is that my wife HAS NEVER had to say to my children, "Kids, your father was arrested and is in jail." BRILLIANT!!! Hahahaha fuck Flair.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a man trying to make an honest living. Wrestling, while entertaining, is little more than people on top who kiss the most ass. Flair is a notable example of this; the guy hasn't been relevant since 1990. Douglas, while not being the biggest star, had a loyal base of fans and realized his time was finished to take bumps and move onto the next chapter of his life. Flair can't walk away. To me, that's more shameful than working a retail job, be it a manager or checkout boy.
Years and years ago I worked at a dollar store when I was a teenager, and my manager who was super cool and a really awesome person, said that she once met Ric Flair when she was working in Charlotte (Flair's stomping grounds, of course). She said that he came into the store that she working and said that he was the biggest asshole that you could ever imagine! I've always felt like Shane Douglas was right and he is: Ric Flair is an asshole and many people can vouch for that. I once met Raven at a local show in my hometown and he was a cold-hearted asshole, as well. Shane Douglas in his prime was an amazing wrestler and an even more decent person. Humble guy. Ric Flair is the opposite of that, seemingly, and so many people can back that up. Flair needs to humble himself!
Big fan of both Shane Douglas and Ric Flair!! Flair would definitely wrestle Douglas for money, way less than a million too, love flair but he talks a lot of shite
A lot of target employees got TRIGGERED in this comment section. But a lot of them are right. Who is Ric Flair just say all of that when most of his fans are working the same job or worse?
Don't ever feel sorry for millionaires. Flair has net worth of 3 million dollars. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=moneyinc.com/ric-flair-net-worth/&ved=2ahUKEwiayOaEp7LsAhXCtlkKHUjBBC0QFjAPegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw3KTmI0DjS9i8SlfteZdNNy&cshid=1602617419381
@@Wadzillia again who is feeling sorry for him? He makes his money just being him as I said I wish I can make money in my 60s just being me like Ric Flair.
