IF is great, what I find that no one talks about is training fasted I feel much better core engagement. More than 16/8 with a hard session I have felt light headed through.
I only started drinking coffee recently and am highly caffeine sensitive (done the bloodwork) - it's like a drug to me, gives me the biggest boost in energy that lasts pretty much all day!
I have done IF for 2 and a half years. I too love it, whether it's too lose weight / maintain weight or just help with overall life, worry about food late afternoon after work is done and kids are sorted
I have always enjoyed IF but when I started Crossfit, I was told otherwise because of the training load but so glad to hear this and also hear about the test levels.
I IF and do intense (Mayhem Programming) crossfit 5 days a week. I am much more lean than i was when I started. I am also much stronger and bigger since starting IF
Bc if you can work CF into any diet program, it's completely bearable then! And then he smiles, looks at the camera, points, and says "You're Welcome" - best part of the video!
Snowboarder 9 years from Vermont and use to take big air jumps and ended up with full reconstructive knee surgery when I was 25. I had horrible arthritis pain for several years until I switch my diet. Now I have no pain. Zero. I am 41 now. Now break dancing for 20 years, and CrossFit mornings my own way. I don't eat cheese or milk (toxic)
@@HCEMGE1 inflammatory compounds both in the animal protein and the end products u5gc and TMAO which come from bacteria that create these inflammatory compounds. Cheese and dairy show also evidence that it increases rumatoid arthritis. You are welcome to check my Instagram account for evidence of what I am saying as a 41 year old breakdancer. What I eat as well. @therainninja.us Not telling people what to eat but sharing what has done wonders for my health.
still on a cut with 1820cal/day and started intermittent fasting - pulled today a PR of 145kg Deadlift. Seems like i have more energy during the workouts since i eat in timespan and work out in this time span. Never thought i make linear progression at a cut.
Dr. Rhonda Patrick talks about intermittent fasting on her page and some podcasts with Joe Rogan. Once you ingest anything but water after waking, your liver and endocrine system starts a whole clock cycle within the body, it is no longer in a fasting state. This has definitely helped me this past year with certain inflammatory markers, I try to keep my eating within a 6-8 hour window. (:
@@gerhardschulzy This is something i am very curious about - started intermittent fasting yesterday, and i LOVE coffee in the morning. I used to have a lot of sugar and milk/cream(er) in my coffee but this week i am trying to stay true to the process. I have a black coffee and i used stevia to sweeten it, hoping that it doesn't break the fasting!
Yeah Dr. Patrick does say that, I have heard others in the field say black coffee is ok though..Either way I'm sure you would still be getting great benefits
Thousands of years of eating and it's like nobody knows what to eat, everyone disagrees, scientists disagree with each other, Doctors disagree with each other, it's insanity. Ice cream with Jimmy's on top for the win.
Yea, part of the reason is that industries put lobbyists on all the major boards for government recommendations, marketing, and health related things so everything is biased based on what industries got their people on the boards to promote their products.
This is because it's almost impossible to get a proper study completed on diet because it requires studying humans.. which vary so much in terms of diets, being predisposed to illnesses, genetics etc.
From Monday every single non elite crossfiter is doing intermittent fasting following Fronings diet, kinda ignoring the part where he says he’s training from morning till evening every day :)
Gurgui 88 I thought about that watching this yesterday. Despite keyboard warriors’ IF does work if you make it fit your schedule. I wish he would’ve elaborated on his mineral intake on the mornings he’s training fasted.
@@brianhyatt3930 I think he drinks 1 coffee and plenty of water. I'm fasting until 9pm everyday eating 1 meal per day and i feel great! Obviously i don't train as much as Rich, 1 - 2 wods per day.
Pretty good insight I would say the high bone density is due to heavy load bearing exercises not the milk I wonder if Rich would cut out milk for a while and see if anything changes, good or bad It is definitely a high calorie/protein drink tho
Sean P The whole milk would contribute more to testosterone production (cholesterol, fats, vitamin d, and b vitamins), as well as brain and nervous system function/recovery than it would with bone density. If you drink a lot of whole milk you notice immediately your brain function increases with the cholesterol and your voice deepens, you also get strong as a motherfucker all signs of increased test and nervous system functioning/recovery. Not to mention the calories
Hotballz comment is possibly the dumbest comment I have read on nutrition in a long time. So wrong... dairy is so so so so so so bad for humans. When will people understand.
Jayscrub Deep And guys like Rich froning will keep on going out there and winning millions, looking great, being famous, having great friends and family, and you will be the crazy guy on the street saying how milk is the anti christ. Keep preaching brother it’s working
I wonder if Rich still does IF 4 years later. Was it sustainable for him and his training load? The benefits of IF are undeniable so I’m starting up again this week. I tried in the past but didn’t stick to it long enough. I train in the mornings so that’ll be in a fasted state. A little worried hahah. Any advice ?
@@wtfisitpjur I have. Extensively. My research comprises of peer reviewed scientific literature. Not what an "influencer" or singular pseudo science pedaling excuse of a doctor says.
@@aaron7323 wow that's a lot of big words in one small comment. There are peer reviewed studies on milk not having either any effect on bone density, or milk being detrimental on bone density. On top of bone density issues, there are multiple other problems with milk, such as estrogen, atherosclerosis, diabetes, and cancer. I'm sure you know about these with all the scientific and non-influencer, REAL-science, peer-reviewed articles, right? Or is it just articles that conform to your personal bias that are considered real?
Yuuup. Just watched a Pro bodybuilder explain how a jump like that isnt a natural one. Would have to be on some kind of test or hormone therapy to see a jump like that. Look up "Greg Doucette". Hes got a Masters and admits to his usage.
@@SkunkyBrew you can dude mine jumped up 50% just adding in vitamin D daily! had 4 tests before hand to, over 6 month period and i was always the same sort of level. then two tests after taking vit d for a while and both times it had increased the same. then i changed my diet and it went up much further. the link between diet and testosterone levels and estrogen levels is huge!
@@boneTHUGS111 Good! Im glad you were able to see such positive improvements with dietary changes. Research indicates most jumps like the one RF has seen isnt normally due to diet alone. Im no expert, Im simply paraphrasing what the Pros and Users themselves are saying.
Technically, any stimulant breaks a fast, but I also have black coffee in the morning during my fasting period. The off the charts bone density is most likely because of the high amount of weight training, not the milk. When it comes down to nutrition, we all have to figure it out for ourselves. Get inspired by others, read up and educate ourselves and then go by trial and error.
Yea milk will leach calcium phosphate from your bones to manage acidity and inflammation in the body. Arthritis can be reversed or lessened by reducing inflammation markers which are usually things like dairy products in ones diet. But there are some good studies on osteoporosis caused by milk, pubmed.gov or whatever database you have access to.
@@aaron7323 You're totally and completely wrong. Might I suggest reading some material, starting with the complete guide to fasting by Jason Fung. Yeah, there's plenty of studies supporting this, and it's not a small bump in Testosterone, it's quite significant, up to 500% in crease in the first 36 hours into a fast. So before you start making totally false claims, you should do your own research fella.
@@cjb8993 I'm a dietitian you nimrod. I'm glad you believe that not eating can boost testosterone by 500%, more than anabolic steroids! Crazy, it explains why EVERY athlete takes advantage of this "life hack" to compete at such a high level. Intermittent fasting has its place, if it helps you adhere to a well balanced diet then go ahead, keep at it! Claiming it does magical things is completely false though. P. S. Your "research" is nothing but pseudo science perpetuated by uninformed people and people looking to benefit off the craze. Do some proper research and read some peer reviewed, scientific research.
@@cjb8993 Effects of eight weeks of time-restricted feeding (16/8) on basal metabolism, maximal strength, body composition, inflammation, and cardiovascular risk factors in resistance-trained males by Moro et al., shows a decrease in testosterone amongst those following an intermittent fasting diet. Your diet isn't magical, it has its place helping people become healthier by adhering to a diet and reducing bodyweight but it is not a golden key. No diet is a golden key. Stop spreading misinformation.
Love the intermittent fasting but coffee does break your fast, even if it’s black, it still gets processed by the liver. However, It’s a good alternative to use to get use to fasting when first starting out. @bobbyzfitness
@Scotland1908 that is interesting info, thank you. Where are you living that you can get raw milk? As far as I know it's illegal to sell in my country. ( Canada)
Instead of raw milk, get the original parmigiano reggiano cheese which is made with raw milk and it’s 100% safe for you and legal everywhere. I can’t drink pasteurized milk either, but I’m totally fine with raw milk cheese ;)
@Scotland1908 raw milk generally doesnt give intolerent people problems.. Thats too bad, cause no one likes intolerant people, they are so intolerant... 😂
@@lucascollatz5289 What I've read/heard is that if the milk is not raw (which most isn't) it tends to be acidic for most people because all of the helpful living enzymes have died during the pasteurization process. In this case the bones can release calcium out of the bones to neutralize acidity, therefore decreasing bone density. I think it all depends on the individual but worth looking into...
Water has just as much calcium as milk..And his high bone density it's simply from all the training he does,running and weight lifting alone helps bone strength.
water has a pretty negligible calcium content whereas whole milk has about 300 mg per cup. you do need calcium for your bone density; it's recommended that women with low bone density increase their calcium intake i.e. increase their dairy consumption. resistance training + a diet with plenty of calcium will make your bones strong. literally don't know where you guys get your 'info'.
I think if your diet it's about real food (al least 90%) drink 2 liters of milk a day does not seems to be a problem, considereing his way to metabolize the food in to energy (it has to be different to a normal person because Rich trains a lot compared to others), so that 2 liters more or less it may have a different impact in his life (for now). You just have to try what makes you feel comfortable and get you results (real food better than processed). What's terrible is the amount of sedentary people, that will develop osteoarthritis and arthritis before drinking milk for sure!
IF period of 8 hours...so if one eats breakfast at like 8 AM and dinner at 5:30 that is 9.5 hours...and that is a "normal" eating habit...so really only truncating that period by 1.5 hours...Rich sorta indicates his eating habits were crazy and eating at like all times and hours and skipping meals...so basically Rich is just resetting his eating and ensuring consistency...but not sure you can call it "fasting" if you are only limiting yourself an hour and a half over a "traditional" eating schedule. what he is seeing is prob mostly a result of consistency. plus someone needs to tell rich that only about 30% of the calcium he is drinking gets absorbed...then on top of that high protein intake sucks up calcium through urinary excretion and stops its use in the body. caffeine and sodium also limit absorption...and with his diet of protein shakes and whatnot he is prob barely breaking even.
Without wanting to sound like a troll. Coffee is breaking the fast. Anything besides water will require enzymes in your gut to go to work. Check out Dr Rhonda Patrick, who explains all this on her channel
Anyone doing IF, why not eat in the morning? wouldn't it make more sense to sleep through the worst part of the fast and train with food in your system?
@@cookiedestroyer402 i dont think so. When you wake up your cortisol is high. That should give you enough energy to work out. I could never work out after eating. Train, eat, sleep. Repeat. This is how i do it. If a guy with such experience like Rich ended up doing it this way, it is worth to give it a try. It is not a 40 day fast. Your stomach may be empty, but your bowels, where energy is absorbed, are full.
@@mikelroa8719 if before breakfast is the only time you are able to train that would probably just hurt your development. also why would you want to eat only when cortisol is low? Also it doesn't matter how long he's been training fitness is extremely broad.
Interesting but high bone density with people who are not active leads to fracture because the bones are heavy. His bone density is probably mainly due to lifting. A shame that a champion is perpetuating such a false statement about cow’s milk. Many studies with Scandinavian countries have proves this. Anyway thanks for sharing.
Not trying to be a “hater”, but I find it hard to believe your test levels increased that much simply from IF. Having 600+ test levels at your age is amazing yet alone 800 plus. Do you truly believe it’s just from IF??
Of course it can. The largest reason for decreases in testosterone is food intake and blood sugar. If he's eating the correct foods, and fasting long enough, his testosterone could easily be that high.
