Rich Man´s Toys?! | How much does a Glider cost? 

Birds don't wank but they rage sometimes, if you meet one of these angry birds

I'm sure some of the motorists can flip you a bird from time to time.

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Yes, totally agree. But also with gliders you need to take care to pick the correct one ;)

NO! A car is worth 100% when it leaves the factory and looses 15% when it is sold from the dealer and generally it also looses 33.3% after 3 years, but when it leaves the factory it is worth 100%.

@@justme.9711 pretty sure they meant dealer

yeah, mostly aviational and meteorological knowledge and of course piloting skills

I love bikes an cars too(gliders first anyway)...the RS6 is not a CAR is a piece of junk...

I like to use my legs to walk

Motorcycles are up there too

@RetroSoaring Not if we are self launching :)

@@cordellscott I like to use my legs to operate the rudder

I did the same with the ASG29

you don't need to have RS6 if you want to go fast. You can use RS3 for such a purpose which is 2-3 times cheaper. Unfair and a bit stupid comparision.

@@lolandypanda The claim is soaring being a supposed rich-people's hobby. Accordingly, a rich people's car was chosen for comparison. What's your problem?

@@Leon_der_Luftige there is no problem here except of stupidness of such comparision and such statements ;-) Relax.. And 15k is not a mark of rich ppl hobby :) Just somehow expensive...

@@lolandypanda ok, idiot.

@@Leon_der_Luftige Nice to meet you, Andy.

LSVFlachkurbler keep trying. We need more women in aviation and in particular this sport. 😀

LSVFlachkurbler du hast doch nen Ventus3m 😂, vllt klappts damit 🤣

lmao

It works, but only with the girls that are worthy

Impress chicks? Wow! Laughing. Try impressing yourself. Chicks are fun until you are sitting in divorce court.

Thank you! Never thought about boats 👍🏼

Like Audi Sport Quattro ;-)

Or maybe not. The cars today are constructed from more plastic than ever before. Most of these plastics will become brittle at 15 years of age thereby making these cars virtually useless. Imagine a 50 year old plastic intake manifold. It might not be a good comparison to glider.

In ireland its €40 :-(

@@badrinair in Brazil +- 62US$

@@deficafe-decentralizedfina9521 yes but at least you can enjoy the beauty of flying...if you were to have a PPL license you would have to pay around 180 euros per hours....at least this is the cost per hour for a cessna 172 in Romania

in Portugal is 40€

In Canada, it's $30 per Aero tow and then once you are in the air, you a biilled anywhere between $1 and $2 PER MINUTE!!

You need to find a dedicated gliding club. There you can learn "real" flying. :)

You can search google for gliding club in [x area] and go on from there

Not all gliders are rated for aerobatics. If you want to do aerobatics, the glider should be rated for it, AND you should get additional training first. even then, some clubs may not allow it due to insurance or other reasons.

Used gliders in Germany: www.segelflug.de/osclass/ And new gliders directly at the manufactureres.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will try to cover this in one of my next videos.

Water...bring lots of water, and a plastic bottle.

This is a bit late, but I think that this is useful. Snacks are indeed important for long flights. For just a few hours you don't need much but for the flights upward of 10 hrs a good prep is needed, maybe some sandwiches or similar thet is easy to eat. Most pilots have a camelpack style water container for their flying. As for pre flight, the best is to eat as you normally do, and not be hungry or stuffed when starting. Same with drinking. Heat is best managed by the glider, almost all gliders have a ventilation port in the nose and a vent in the cockpit, and for extra ventilation there is a small hatch on the side of the canopy. Light clothes help if it really is extra hot out, but the altitude helps to cool the air. It's also important to be protected from the sun. A hat, sunglasses and sun cream are pretty much essential. Most pilots use a bucket hat because it protects from all sides, does not have a button on the top and is not unvieldily large. Buttonless baseball caps are also seen. Buttons are not fun because if an extra strong thermal hits and the glider shakes, you dont want to hit the canopy with one, for the sake of both your head and the canopy. Peeing is of course eadier for men, with the procedure at least where i live being to pee in a bag and throw it out of the small hatch. It does seem a bit bad to throw plastic out at least for me, but i don't know of a better method. As for women, i really don't know. There are less of them in the sport and it's not the most common thing to talk about. Maybe you can find someone for that if it is relevant for you. But i'm sure that when you get to the club these will become almost like second nature to you.

@@pilot3016 dont forget the piss jug

@@strevortni Chuckle..that's what the plastic bottle is for.

I heard the Audi RS6 is a really good car?

Fänd ich auch interessant!

I´m one of two owners of this glider. All the expenses for traveling around the world and competing are covered by my film company and sponsorships.

Paragliding or paramotoring even cheaper and more portable if all you are doing is trying to fly!

Err, not really. Marginally cheaper and has none of the benefits of powered aviation.

R Peirce When you are at a club with a winch (which I am), it costs about NZ$30 to be launched and costs about 50c-$1 for every minute you’re in the air, so for $200 you can go on a 3 to 5 hour flight. Heaps cheaper than power flying. Also, you get to learn things that you don’t usually learn in power flying which can be useful such as energy management and slow flight, which can be useful in emergency situations and bush flying.

@@AN2Felllla $200 every time you fly still means you simply can not afford to have any other hobby besides flying. At least for most people

@@AN2Felllla Wait, why does it cost $.50 - $1 per minute while you fly??

You should join your local gliding club. You can use club gliders for competitions too, at least in most clubs.

Yeah, same hahaha

Maybe It's expensive to own your own but flying in a club is not so much. Avrage guy can afford it. You can also buy a glider with a partner and split costs.

Someone once told me if you start you must NOT buy a glider, even a cheap one. First, you should practice like 20years (I exagerate ofc), spare the money and if you still have the time and the will to, you can buy your first and good sailplane.

TrAiLiO1111 Depends on the direction of your club, if leisure flying is the norm or if competition and long distance flying are actively encouraged. In my club we are in the latter category, although having mostly club class, and only one standard class ship. However we have enough planes that one can have a plane all day for long cross country flights, or borrow them for competitions more often than not. Members regularly compete in junior nationals with club ships.

TrAiLiO1111 It also depends how serious you take the hoppy (or rather life style), and available money. It is also not unusual to start with a modest plane, and upgrade later when your performance and expectations raise, but also your budget (hopefully) improves. I will probably stick with my prehistoric Ka 6 unless it is grounded for some reason, or climate change progresses with increasing winds that I cannot reasonably go cross county any more. In the last two years I had quite a few frustrating days where I could not gain any ground or at least did not exceed bicycle speed on average.

I bought my first glider (Astir CS) before I even went solo in gliding. I did about 10 solo flights in the club trainer, and then got into the Astir. I put about 300 hours into that glider over 4 years before selling it. One HUGE benefit of owning your own glider is that you don't have to wait for the club glider - especially on the good days. Also you can fly as long as you want. Don't think that these ships are too old, slow, low performance for you to have fun in. I did many 300Km plus flights, my longest flight being 520Km in 7h20. As Stefan said, your brain is the engine, and the only way you can make yourself better at gliding is by getting in the air and flying.

Thanks for all the answers. I've been wanting to fly ever since I was born and I feel like now is the time more than ever. Are there any good glider flying forums around? I usually find general aviation forums that don't really have that many glider pilots on there.

Only the insurance costs of the glider will decrease a little bit. I think the Std. Libelle was only 200 € cheaper

i have never lost money on a glider ( I've bought and sold 10 over the years ), always at least got my capital back and often a little more. Cars ............. how to tear up money!

Gliders with engine are more expensive, but the insurance costs and ARC is reall really high... The EB29 may cost about 400k€ including all extras and VAT

idk the prices but probably over 100k

I don't know the prices for a new glider of this list, but for used ones your looking at 190.000€ for a js1 with 18 and 21 meter, an Arcus M around 250.000 € and a EB29 for close to 300k€. All of this is depending in hours, shape and condition of the aircrafts.

The Ventus costs as self starter 200.000 € fully equipt, the as 33 will be around this price range...

New price for Arcus 124.500€ Arcus T 151.000€ Arcus M 175.500€ Ventus 3 101.500€ " T 120.000€ " FES 128.000€ " M 149.500€ (Geman V.A.T. is not included) and the prices are without any extras or instruments. (So plus about 80.000€)

@@klauski4914 I reckon you have missed €100000 somewhere. An Arcus M ready to fly will set you back around €300 000 , even used close to that!

Abschreibungen habe ich auch nicht beim Audi eingerechnet. Der Wertverlust ist da wesentlich höher und nach 20 bis 25 Jahren ist er wahrscheinlich schon verschrottet. Natürlich gibt es noch weitere Kosten wie eine Neulackierung (ca. 1000 € pro Jahr?), 3000 Stunden Kontrolle und Verschleißteile (Abdichtbänder, Reifen, evtl Lager, Politur, Klebebänder).

What is the environnemental impact of the building process tho ?

Fetilu09 depends. Wooden glider very low. And at ages 50-60 years the dept is forgiven. Glass ships are OK. Glass fiber production used energy, but the weight of glass is not so high. The resin is made from oil products but again the weight is not too high. Carbon fiber on the other side is really energy hungry and expensive process. Still keep in mind that the weight of the entire plane is much lower than a car, and steel, and particular aluminum and magnesium production are more energy hungry. Also keep in mind how long gliders live. I already mentioned. Club class glass ships also are 40-50 years old, and can still be in terrific shape.

There are also two or even three-seaters. And remember, you anyhow have to have a parachute. But i agree, it is still tricky. For the milk, you can use the wing tanks; they can store more than 30 gallons of milk.

The szd is ok, but make an licence at first so you actually gnow if you want to start.

You probably need to lose 10kg, which is doable. Help out at a gliding club, dragging gliders around! Main issue may be getting training, as two pilots plus two parachutes might get near trainer limit. Check club rules for where you are e.g. Lasham UK www.lashamgliding.com/pages/age-weight-restrictions

You don´t need a RS6 to tow the trailer, a van is also ok ;)

that depens. an whinchlaunsh at my clup is 4 euros for teens and 7 for adults. one minnute f-tow is abaut 2-4 euros

In a glider you don´t need to go behind a bush, you can pee into a plastic bag :D

1 metre drop for 50 metres travelled - not so.

@@lautoka63 that is 50 to 1

Come on! You know what I mean :P

my club too

Null bis sehr wenig. ein Segelflugzeug hat keine verschleisteile

@@ES-qe1nh so i have to build that?

Thats wrong. its called outlanding and its common for gliders. When you get low you land on an field instead of crashing in the next tree. an glider and an bush plane is very diffrent and arent ment to be the same

Dass das Fliegen im Verein erschwinglich ist, habe ich versucht im Video rüber zu bringen. Das teuerste sind Reisen, bei denen man das Flugzeug verschiffen muss oder moderne Flugzeuge chartert. Wettbewerbe in Europa sind einigermaßen erschwinglich, aber natürlich teurer als im eigenen Verein zu fliegen.

The glider is a 50/50 share and I pay for everything by my own.

Yes, for sure!

Obviously.

All 78 genders can buy gliders, check your privilege.

@@clownworld3913Please name the 78 genders

They are more like 15000€, at least when I last saw one

Harald Schevik ASK 13 are still highly regarded trainers in clubs. And there are few on the market because when you have one you stick with her, and demand is high, and during training things break and are just worn down with time.

Kai Horstmann That’s true, but you can still get a similar vintage sailplane project for half the price!

That depends on how much time you would like to spend in the workshop and how much time in the air. For any ambitious junior who wants to get into cross country flying or evene competition flying, I would highly recommend to buy a club class glider out of glasfiber.

@@moritzmoser9688 LS4 ✌🏼

The insurance here in Germany is not for the pilot, it´s for this specific glider. And it is cheap for Germany!

please

yeah i guess you're right?

Coz it's a car

rohit agarwal yeah I think that's the joke bud