Rich Paul to LeBron: “If your athleticism went away you’d be Karl Malone” | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss LeBron James after Rich Paul’s comments saying LeBron can play for “as long as he wants” and his comparison to Karl Malone.
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@FirstThingsFirst 10 месяцев назад

Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

@johncampbell7417 10 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@naasiftyson8542 10 месяцев назад

I’m in tears yo🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😅😂😂😂😂😂😂

@davidyoung4637 10 месяцев назад

@@johncampbell7417guyFF

@mykustomzdiecast962 10 месяцев назад

No thanks LOL..i have enough of NIck's ludacris take on this very short clip :)

@matolaugh6167 10 месяцев назад

🤡s

@xander908 10 месяцев назад

Lebron built a school, Karl Malone shouldn’t be allowed within 100 feet of one

@shafiksunderani4230 10 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@genocidehero9687 10 месяцев назад

Stole that from the other vid huh? 😂

@byroncameron6503 10 месяцев назад

Karl was delivering mail to that school!! 😂😂 idc, idc 😂

@Jay3rd313 10 месяцев назад

Mmmmmmm Barz

@craigugulini3409 10 месяцев назад

No one really talks about him getting a really young girl pregnant back in the day……

@kingbirdIII 10 месяцев назад

Malones midrange is extremely underrated

@alexnewkirk4526 10 месяцев назад

Money from about 13 feet out

@Mithrandir523 10 месяцев назад

Missed it when it mattered tho lol, that's what was so frustrating about him

@iwishiwasthomasshelby 10 месяцев назад

You mean mid ranged teens?

@seanadachi9795 10 месяцев назад

LeBron doesn't know what mid-range is

@barakesmith-washington6946 10 месяцев назад

@@seanadachi9795 don't need it

@tweezy5804 10 месяцев назад

To say you could take someone's athletic ability away and they would still be Karl Malone. That is an amazing compliment.

@JosePremo0813 10 месяцев назад

Right that’s what I said

@tono6621 10 месяцев назад

Without Lebron, rich Paul would be working at t mobile rn

@JosePremo0813 10 месяцев назад

@@tono6621 sellin drugs somewhere 😂

@evflorybarnes 10 месяцев назад

Exactly!

@BeatByMars 10 месяцев назад

I was thinkin the same lol Karl Malone was a muthafuckin beast

@Dondissimo 10 месяцев назад

In the 96-97 regular season the Jazz scored 103.1 ppg In the 98-99 regular season the Jazz scored 93.3 ppg. This gives us an avg of 98.2 ppg. Karl’s 26.1 ppg during those seasons has him scoring ~ 26.6% of his team’s points. (Strictly per game..not a total number stat) The Lakers over the last two seasons have scored 112.1 ppg and 117.2 ppg respectively. This gives us an avg of 114.65 ppg. LeBron’s 29.6 ppg during those seasons has him scoring ~ 25.8% of his team’s points. (Strictly per game..not a total number stat) Brou’s point about the volume of scoring is technically correct, but probably isn’t a significant enough difference to be up in arms about the disrespect of Karl Malone. Their scoring numbers are comparable. He should’ve focused less on the volume and more just on the fact that LeBron can score at volume from the outside. He’s Malone’s size, but they play nothing alike. Hard to actually compare

@jacobsamano9761 9 месяцев назад

Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. I thought these people had gone extinct, especially in the age of Twitter and RU-vid comment wars.

@thomaslee2558 8 месяцев назад

and it’s way easier to score now

@thomaslee2558 8 месяцев назад

plus lebron has ball 70 percent of time

@genocidehero9687 10 месяцев назад

Lebron - Four Rings Malone - Four(teen) year old old knocked up

@mzilber1 10 месяцев назад

lmao!

@LembeckIsStaying 10 месяцев назад

Sad part is she was actually 13. 🤮

@NightCrawler810 10 месяцев назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ckq 10 месяцев назад

@@LembeckIsStaying 12

@sup9542 10 месяцев назад

And he was 17 or 18 and it gets into the realm of poverty and race.

@dhruvit_s 10 месяцев назад

Lebron James in 2013 and 2014 vs 2022 and 2023 PPG: 27.0 vs 29.6 RPG: 7.5 vs 8.3 ASG: 6.8 vs 6.5 FG%: 56% vs 51% FT%: 75% vs 76% MPG: 37.8 vs 36.4 By Nick's argument, Lebron is a better player now than he was in Miami

@MannyTwice 10 месяцев назад

At his age now offensively he is....his bag is much bigger (obviously not the same athleticism). It's the defense that's the problem

@rpthepresident4654 10 месяцев назад

Miami Bron is just a younger defender not a better one dude just don’t sit in the chair anymore

@aaronclay4665 10 месяцев назад

Timo be fair, he us save for stamina and def..... Also let's ve real he had 3 other stars on that Miami team?

@Misaki11111 10 месяцев назад

Not better, smarter.

@BasicBodThor 10 месяцев назад

@@MannyTwice That and he shoots way more 3s which to me is why his points have gone up a bit but his FG% has dipped a bit

@jsoul99 10 месяцев назад

How come its not ok to throw up a bunch a numbers when it comes to Malone and Lebron but its ok to throw up those same numbers to disregard everything else about Lebron.

@insidejah9293 9 месяцев назад

Right! Or to minimize his numbers and just say "Longevity Longevity". The 2016 Finals being the most egregious example.

@shamelessjt1758 Месяц назад

Lenron averages 2 more pts per game than karl malone for his entire career... more assists less rebounds.

@mr.e347 10 месяцев назад

Malone played 19 seasons. Never missed playoffs. Led Jazz to 18 playoffs when Stock was already washed. Never missed playoffs. Malone longevity was way better than Dirks, KGs, Chucks. Chris has a legit point.

@boatfromvsg8062 10 месяцев назад

Lebron played 20 seasons and went to 17 playoffs

@zaywilliamson8347 10 месяцев назад

@@boatfromvsg8062dick riding ain’t you

@mkpm1304 10 месяцев назад

@boatfromvsg8062 you forgot in year 2 he actually had a winning record and somehow misses playoff?!

@mkpm1304 10 месяцев назад

Yes Malone was incredibly durable, but so was LeBron until a few years ago. Also, I repeat this constantly but LeBron took 4 different teams to the Finals. FOUR. And only had 1 good coach. Imo familiarity goes a long way. And Sloane was an all time great coach imo..

@jonathanbrown3046 9 месяцев назад

Last time I checked 🤔🧐 Stockton the ALL TIME assist leader is the reason the Utah jazz made all those playoff appearances .

@IvanRandomDude 10 месяцев назад

Based on Nick's logic Luka is better than 93 Jordan. Just look at the numbers. Giannis, Jokic and Embiid are all better than 00-02 Shaq, look at the numbers. God, SGA and Dame are as good of a scorers as 07 Kobe Bryant and OKC Durant, they average similar numbers. Comparing numbers from an era when the pace was the slowest in history to now is silly

@tednockowitz7749 10 месяцев назад

Exactly. Part of me feels like Nick knows that this point, they just have to find something to fill the time.😂😂

@thisnewnamesystemisdumb 10 месяцев назад

Context matters. He compared a 37-38 year old to a mvp winner in their prime. You didnt. 🤦‍♂️ Please get smarter.

@lWingSpanl 10 месяцев назад

@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbI don’t understand why they just keep skipping over that🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

@BooHefner 10 месяцев назад

If due to how slow the pace was can we stop over exaggerating how good the defense was based purely on numbers?🤔

@BooHefner 10 месяцев назад

@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbThat was Malone's 13th and 14th year in the league I believe so I wouldn't consider that as prime.

@McGomezAddams 10 месяцев назад

"If LeBron's ceiling would be Karl Malone, he'd be a bust" - Chris Broussard 2003

@TheGoatLocker 10 месяцев назад

Mic drop

@waltertaylor44 10 месяцев назад

This is the research we need

@chrishaswell4405 10 месяцев назад

But they aren't talking about LeBron Ceiling there talking about year 20 LeBron nice try though lol

@onidtubes 10 месяцев назад

That is not what they are talking though.

@chrishaswell4405 10 месяцев назад

@waltertaylor44 but its not relevant to this debate .. this wasn't about LeBron ceiling it was about Malones ceiling and LeBron floor lol

@1jdr127 10 месяцев назад

This show is PERFECT! Brou vs Nick = Platinum!!!!! Wildes = Comedic Gold!!!!

@tysoncaves420 9 месяцев назад

Wildes in the background: geeee willikerrz

@Nickvanexel23 10 месяцев назад

Karl Malone only missed 10 games his entire 18year stint with jazz that’s crazy

@mitchtherevolution 10 месяцев назад

Should have been in prison the whole time

@siba2379 10 месяцев назад

Those teens kept him rejuvenated

@lisarollins4880 10 месяцев назад

@@mitchtherevolution 😆😆😆😆😆😆

@leroysanders3564 10 месяцев назад

And how many rings did he get out of that🫣🫣🫣

@mitchtherevolution 10 месяцев назад

@@leroysanders3564 I strongly believe that Utah will never win a championship as the Jazz. You can't be the Mormon capital of the world, and call your team the Jazz, and expect to not be a cursed franchise.

@Robrr89 10 месяцев назад

Nick is the type of media personality Barkley talks about when it comes to making it personal

@holymolythejabroni9040 10 месяцев назад

100%. He’s Skip Bayless in different clothes.

@agtjackbauer 10 месяцев назад

Nick just wants to get in LBJ's pants so bad. He's like the nerd that wants the hot girl and embarrasses himself and never gets her.

@thisisnotmyname8766 10 месяцев назад

At least Nick is funny

@jetblkm3112 10 месяцев назад

I mean Nick is a clutch sports guy🤷🏾‍♂️

@Robrr89 10 месяцев назад

Nick has some great takes on everything other team and player in the NBA not name Lebron James. Everything tied to LBJ he over exaggerates or straight up paints everything out of context to make LBJ look greater than he is.

@joseboyer-zk7qg 10 месяцев назад

Broussard calling out Nick was gold

@jerrodgarland2604 10 месяцев назад

Nick wasn’t wrong

@dbz_feats7723 10 месяцев назад

@@jerrodgarland2604 he admitted he was

@mos8558 10 месяцев назад

Wilds is surprisingly very likable now unlike when he started... good job wilds I'm happy for you

@Camefromnone 10 месяцев назад

Facts he used to be annoying af

@adayinthelifeofJB 10 месяцев назад

Nick: "I'm gonna do a blind reveal..." Brou & Wildes: moans and groans... LMAO

@lopaka526 10 месяцев назад

Like, oh, I wonder if Nick found numbers that favor LeBron…

@ClareAmel 10 месяцев назад

It’s actually so INSANE hearing Broussard defend Malone so passionately. Doing a better job than Malone’s defense attorney

@mr.mr.4772 10 месяцев назад

Louisiana Pride

@buzziinmarciano5709 10 месяцев назад

Gotta hold on to that 90s/Mj lure

@hooligan5381 10 месяцев назад

this corny cause thats 30 years old and the girl didn't want press charges lol

@danielphagans2066 10 месяцев назад

I see l showed up on 8mile today not prepared with bars Yall are dropping these Malone bars are funny!😅😂

@justindwarika2523 10 месяцев назад

He's defending his ability to play a game, not his character. This a sports show, not Law and Order

@pharma2546 10 месяцев назад

Nick wright is signed to Clutchsport, it’s unprofessional for him not disclosing that info

@erikpuka2627 10 месяцев назад

Malone had an actual mid range game and actual post skills. Could actually guard people too. Most big defenders just protect the rim. He could guard bigs.

@coryburns9161 10 месяцев назад

And have s ex with underage girls

@TheDamis360 10 месяцев назад

Lebron could guard in his prime like any top defender

@wesleymiller3830 10 месяцев назад

@@TheDamis360no he couldn’t

@anthonyauthentic7934 10 месяцев назад

@@wesleymiller3830he could tho… what?

@JustinJohnson-tq7wr 10 месяцев назад

@@wesleymiller3830 He literally locked up Prime D-rose in a playoff series. "locked up" as well as anyone could

@randallmarcum9998 10 месяцев назад

The game is at a far faster pace nowadays Nick meaning more possessions and thus more opportunities to record counting stats and thus those numbers are never quite fair to players that played in eras with a slower pace

@TheFantasyDad 10 месяцев назад

Wrong. Another brain washed fan.

@marcusstrinidad 10 месяцев назад

It’s not too much different. Pace during Malone’s MVP years were 90 and todays pace is 98. The game was actually faster in the 70s and 80s but that’s unimportant. So the question is can Karl Malone make up the difference in stats if there were 8 more possessions per game when he played? Odds are, probably not. He couldn’t get enough assists, points and rebounds with 8 more possessions to make up the difference of what LBJ does with about 98 possessions per 48 minutes. The biggest difference is offensive rating where teams have an offensive rating of 115 league wide whereas during Malone’s years were 105 league wide. Offensive rating (points per 100 possessions) disregards tempo and number of possessions in a game. So really todays NBA outscored Malone’s NBA by 10 points per 100 possessions. The league’s offense efficiency might be a bigger explanation of why LBJ’s stats look so much better.

@theronwright1413 10 месяцев назад

The 80s were identical

@CalebAlucardtheHagan 10 месяцев назад

The blind reveal is silly in this instance because Malone was playing in an era where BY THE VERY RULES OF THE GAME it was significantly harder to score. If the roles were reversed, we'd see Malone with better numbers in his twilight years unquestionably. But who am I kidding? We're just filling airtime in July... Still watching and loving every minute, though. XD

@SadSinStory 10 месяцев назад

" BY THE VERY RULES OF THE GAME" so he was built to be the best he could be for the rules but somehow he would get even better if his build wouldn't be perfectly fit and the rules would be different? 🤣🤣 based on just what ur saying you already dismantled that assertion yourself. not to mention other slew of problems with what ur saying.

@user-cs1pi8zg1n 10 месяцев назад

@@SadSinStorypeople say anything to discredit any Lebron accomplishments. It was harder to score then because outside of the superstars the league wasn't nowhere near as skilled as the players of today.

@Cooleyhyh 10 месяцев назад

@@SadSinStoryfrom what I read you clearly missed the point 😂

@Truthorfib 10 месяцев назад

The 8% from three in Malone's MVP years was crazy though 😂 I think a lot of old guys back then would have issues to adapting to the shooter league we have now. Shaq for example one of the greatest ever only made one three point his whole career. In today's NBA all the top big men can shoot. Jokic, KD, Embiid. Not being able to shoot as a big man is a flaw that can be exploited like how they exploit Giannis in the playoffs. Giannis lucky he has Middleton to bale him out but Middleton is just not that consistent

@shido1716 10 месяцев назад

By rules of the game it’s harder to score now… being able to double and triple team as much as they want… playing zones… illegal defense calls… just cuz they allowed goons to foul hard doesn’t mean the entire league was like that or that the entire league was elite defensively…

@noobgonebad9860 10 месяцев назад

Best show on planet earth. Fox needs to get this crew paid. They fit so well together

@popcrnshower 10 месяцев назад

Malone made all defensive first team both of his MVP seasons.

@MC-ej4to 10 месяцев назад

Yeah but what they don't understand is that MVP Karl Malone was doing those numbers when the league was also averaging like 91 points a night lol. This is very disrespectful of Karl Malone a very great player. We don't have to disrespect one player to prop up another.

@Mr123Parka 10 месяцев назад

This is the most stat bending performance ever by Nick Wright. Never seen someone use stats and ignore pace and era this much. Actually sick but them klutch boys are paying well

@Person-gk5ee 10 месяцев назад

Plus how many games lebrons missed

@stopjordan4193 10 месяцев назад

Lebron scored 25.8% of his teams points and Malone scored 26.5% of his teams points in those two seasons on a per game basis. Another factor was that Malone was a FT merchant and Stockton carried him.

@Person-gk5ee 10 месяцев назад

@@stopjordan4193 now bring up average points per game for their teams in both those seasons

@BeeKay2715 10 месяцев назад

@@Person-gk5eewhat does that have to do with the percentage of points they scored?

@davidkang6267 10 месяцев назад

@@Person-gk5ee 117.2 & 112.1 for lebron's season, 103.1 & 96.5 for Malone. yea pretty similar in terms of percentage, so pace shouldn't be an issue

@dskwared2u610 10 месяцев назад

When Karl came in the league he was strictly an athletic dunk guy. He worked on his game to develop his shooting. He averaged nearly 80 games per season in 18 of his 19 years in the league.

@mikemars7888 10 месяцев назад

He also avg 80 teens in those years sooo

@Wisestomatoe 10 месяцев назад

@@mikemars7888corny , get a life

@iwishiwasthomasshelby 10 месяцев назад

He also worked on his pickup skill. Around an elementary school.

@Jbcomedystl 10 месяцев назад

@@Mithrandir523so players aren’t great without a title? I hate you new dudes

@youdub7926 10 месяцев назад

@@Mithrandir523 Thats because he had to face MJ, if LeChina had to face MJ he would never have a title either.

@lightsout6552 10 месяцев назад

And it was harder town core in the Jordan Malone era. The hand check and physicality was a huge difference maker. Much harder town core back then taking a pounding every time you hit the paint

@jdbarnes5987 10 месяцев назад

“Josh, still employed” was some beautifully subtle shade at ESPN lmao

@SuperSonic_868 10 месяцев назад

In 1990 Malone played all 82 games and put up 31/11 on 56% shooting. Off court, he's a scumbag, but on the court, dude was a monster

@davidrobertson4010 10 месяцев назад

The most sensible comment so far

@RJTham-wq9eo 10 месяцев назад

I agree, he's a Monster on and off the court.

@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity 10 месяцев назад

Difference is bron still a monster goin into yr 21 😂

@notimportant3686 10 месяцев назад

so then don't you mean, on the court, dude was a monster.... off the court dude was a monster

@johnnybaxter1953 10 месяцев назад

What was Malone in year 21 though

@eloyzamora8422 10 месяцев назад

Lebron only played 110 games the last 2 years. Karl malone in 19 seasons played less than 80 games twice.

@sindilacion 10 месяцев назад

Karl malone didn't have to cover as much ground as players do today. Playoff mileage is a factor also.

@_SIRENITY_ 10 месяцев назад

You can put Stockton in that bracket too

@anudesignsbynkrumah9081 10 месяцев назад

@@sindilacion what????v you guys gotta stop this. malone was in the vpaint banging against big men. lebrick scores by running over smaller players

@antoniobridges6209 10 месяцев назад

@@sindilacion19 seasons, multiple long playoff runs. For the longest time the only player that scored more points than Malone was Kareem. There’s your mileage. Y’all can talk about lebron without shitting on other legends. This is just a bad take, Malone was athletic and had a waaaaaay better post arsenal. Lebron would be warriors iggy if he lost his athleticism

@edredding 10 месяцев назад

He ain’t have to move lol.. he stayed at the top the key and pick and popped. He wasn’t running an offense he wasn’t playing deep into the playoffs for majority of his career and he also had a Pg

@REALJayDOTWill 10 месяцев назад

LeBron and Stockton not going to the finals is an extremely crazy take lmao

@waynebell246 7 месяцев назад

I was waiting for this!!!

@ajrivera1993 10 месяцев назад

I scrolled down to the comments, was not disappointed.

@terrencemoore8739 10 месяцев назад

I almost imploded when they said it was Bru's last day...this week😂

@davidkeith6907 10 месяцев назад

So is he (bru) leaving the show soon?

@94feelmeflow 10 месяцев назад

Wildes is unintentionally hilarious

@glasnoirx 10 месяцев назад

I know - I died and rewound that aside he made after Brou said he probably didn’t take 100 3’s in his whole career, and without a beat’s worth of time, wildes jokes about how he probably shouldn’t have, if he’s only making 8% of them. Lol wildes is the hero we don’t deserve

@matchhunter7012 10 месяцев назад

And delusional most of the time

@fluff975 10 месяцев назад

not unintentionally--he is a certified clown. world class troll. gotta love him

@LSmoney215 10 месяцев назад

Wildes is dumb af

@joeyc4633 10 месяцев назад

Wildes is f’n cringe

@loser277 10 месяцев назад

Is it just me or does Nick look like he's auditioning to be a low level mobster in the next Batman movie with that suit?

@bryanfahey3144 10 месяцев назад

Why don’t they do a revised comparison based on the average point increase? For instance - if teams score 20% more points per game in this era - add 20% to that stat.

@JoshuaWSiegel 10 месяцев назад

I always say, go back 20 years, and 25 points in the 90s-early 2000s is equal to about 30 points today.

@theprofessorjg 10 месяцев назад

The Lakers the last 2 seasons, their pace per game was 102 whereas the Jazz in those 2 years Wright is showing had a pace of 89 so a difference of 13 possessions. That means with Malone's stats as is he'd average more point rebounds and assists per game than LeBron. Wright just throws numbers out sans context.

@quentondaniels8536 10 месяцев назад

-🎯🎯🎯🎯

@DeadSezSo 10 месяцев назад

While youre somewhat correct, Karl Malone in no universe would get more assists than lebron. While it's true pace was slower back then, that also meant players needed less cardio conditioning and got hurt much less often. So you can make several different arguments for or against eras which is why it's no use trying to compare stats.

@TheBossyMango 10 месяцев назад

@@DeadSezSoAlso help defense/ zone was considered illegal Defence which resulted in a lot of dudes standing around while one player goes iso on the opposite wing. Imagine what LeBron could’ve done with that “illegal defense” rule, people aren’t ready for that convo tho lol

@theprofessorjg 10 месяцев назад

@@DeadSezSo not necessarily when it comes to cardio. Players then played more games, more minutes and shorter rotations. 8-10 players with the roster at 12 max and 3 on reserve. Now, players play less minutes, less games, and longer rotations...9-12 players. 15 players with 18 max. Yes, I understand the pace is more but a similary paced late 70's to mid '80's had guys again playing more minutes per player per game. While I'll concede Malone would average less assists however it wouldn't be by much.

@mattwhitely1067 10 месяцев назад

They took around the same amount of shots those

@benharris2496 10 месяцев назад

Nick the biggest LeBron Stan out there

@browneyez8600 10 месяцев назад

#7 rebounder is a surprise greater player in that area than I thought

@Blackbolt-411 10 месяцев назад

Malone led his team to 64 wins was all first team offense and defense

@xxtooshiestyxx8756 10 месяцев назад

Bron led his to 66... MVP 1st tm all def and all nba 🙄

@orkidokomlan8544 10 месяцев назад

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756THANK YOU…. I was about to say the same.

@prolific1518 10 месяцев назад

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756got his DPOY stolen

@willjohnwick6911 10 месяцев назад

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756but didn’t make the finals that year Malone made the finals lebron got spanked by the magic 😅

@atraina6921 10 месяцев назад

⁠@@willjohnwick6911Lol, didn’t Malone lose? I thought it was about winning? Cause all people like you do especially in the Jordan debate is bring up 4-6 and make it seem like LeBron should get punished as a 22 year old for being able to carry a team to a finals and more trash teams after that. Make up your mind 😅😅😅😅 . Also FYI in that series where he got “spanked” LeBron averaged 38, 8, and 8 and I don’t even think I need to pull Malones stat to know he didn’t do that in the final.

@maxwellgrant124 10 месяцев назад

For all those wondering... On the 2 season nick showed, Lebron scored 30.3 & 28.9 / 117.2 & 112.1 (25.8% of team points) Karl Malone scored 25.5 & 27.4 / 103.1 & 96.5 (26.5% of team points) Lebron absolutely did score at a very comprable rate & efficiency

@owtkvst 10 месяцев назад

Finally somebody said it

@sjwilliams5883 10 месяцев назад

Bron also better passer an defender bc he can guard 1-4 an sometimes the 5 depending on who the 5 is

@Channelnamehere100 10 месяцев назад

Bruh, the thing isn’t that lebron is miles ahead, it’s that those 2 seasons are MVP seasons for Malone and the 2 seasons from lebron are age 37 and 38 that’s why the seasons are comparable with the averages still being ahead in lebrons favour because of the assists

@ericthurman1050 10 месяцев назад

Again context. the pace ans scorin, rules and philosophies are drastically different. stats mean nothing without context. go back and watch players from the 70s and 60s shoot from steph curry range. it still counted for 2pts. how many people would have better stats if these rules and pace of play were allowed in their eras?

@4yze 10 месяцев назад

At the risk of sounding like a Bron hater, none of this is the point. It isn’t about the player. It’s about the game. It’s like saying Jordan averaged 45/9/8 against the Monstars but only 30/5/6 against the NBA. In the offense that the Jazz ran, with the skill set that the game told Malone he SHOULD and MUST have, in the overall backdrop of the game that Malone played in, The Mailman did X. In a completely different backdrop, with a mandatory skill set that had already changed drastically even by the time LeBron was drafted and more so since (which to his credit he has largely adapted to), Bron did X. You cannot compare the two X’s.

@Prince-cz5qy 10 месяцев назад

Imagine if Karl Malone teamed up with micheal Jordan & Hakeem Olajuwon like Lebron did with wade & bosh in his prime.. ridiculous argument

@isaiahsmith8523 10 месяцев назад

Are you saying Wade is equal to MJ? Are you saying Hakeem and Bosh are the same?

@erikpuka2627 10 месяцев назад

Karl Malone was a much better defender. Probably the best legit post defender I ever seen. Most defenders that defend the paint are shotblockers. Like Gobert. Malone could legit guard centers and power forwards. Could even switch to smaller players. 6th all tome in defensive win shares

@ubong5172 10 месяцев назад

Couldn’t guard his lust fit minors.

@lisarollins4880 10 месяцев назад

@@ubong5172 🤣

@jonathanharvey7940 10 месяцев назад

We don’t f with km13

@GlueRecords 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Josh!!! Was the best sentence in this entire argument.

@moldydonut27 10 месяцев назад

I dont know why, but the drumroll Nick does at the beginning pumps me up everytime lol

@galarook6151 10 месяцев назад

"I belong here, on the bench" 😂

@markwellcapuyan6560 9 месяцев назад

I think you forgot to mention stockton contribution who lead on assist points overall nba. He contributed a lot as well on team offense and defense

@MrBloom-mh4li 10 месяцев назад

I believe that Lebron in possibly his last year or two should really look at or study the game of ... wait for it ... Adrian Dantley. Adrian Dantley was a mid-range and score around the bucket extraordinaire. Adrian Dantley was a small forward at 6'-5" and around 210 pounds and he played and just about lived in and played in the paint during much of his career and that open mid range shot was at times deadly for teams would leave him open occasionally outside the paint. Lebron is bigger and has a natural knack for passing which would help too in extending his health and play.

@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork 10 месяцев назад

9:22 Karl Malone shot 27.4% from 3pt line for his career and he took 310 for his career.

@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork 10 месяцев назад

@@1newme425 naw it’s correct based off basketball reference…

@forkobe7544 10 месяцев назад

He also shot 100% at 13 year old girls in his career

@RelentlessMocha 10 месяцев назад

It's already stated its easier to score in this era so the LBJ numbers are inflated. LeBron is more athletic but Malone would bully LBJ on the block.

@lennybeason1110 10 месяцев назад

Definitely would bully LeBron in the paint!

@noodlezworld3627 10 месяцев назад

He def cam in 03 when the league was still rough am i not mistaken 😂 yall b pushing it

@willjohnwick6911 10 месяцев назад

@@noodlezworld3627dude we’re talking about now not in 2003 🤡 reading is fundamental

@lennybeason1110 10 месяцев назад

@@noodlezworld3627 Nick and Rich Paul are comparing prime Malone to year 19&20 LeBron. We know that it’s been easier to score the last 5 years of this era than any era before it! Prime Malone is definitely better than these last 2 years of LeBron!

@94mikless 10 месяцев назад

Nick comparing stats from 25 years ago is crazy

@randylall647 10 месяцев назад

Not to say Nick had points, but I think Chris is right. The scoring was way different when comparing eras. LeGone scoring average with Lakers is better than Heat. Are we saying that LeGone Lakers days are better than his tenure in the Heat?

@randylall647 10 месяцев назад

@@Wilkin-vd5wx of course, I am picking LeGone over Malone, but that blind comparison that Nick made is ridiculous. Scoring was different, pace was different, how the game was played is different. LeGone Miami was to me his best cause he was a two-way player much better during this time.

@samuelwilliams3044 10 месяцев назад

That’s why I don’t understand why he don’t want to play in the post. Karl Malone was an absolute unit. And he was a great athlete in his prime

@Yeshuaspupil 10 месяцев назад

He could extend his career even more if he did that on top of the HGH.

@cyberbron2077 10 месяцев назад

These two know nothing about basketball^. You're asking a 38 year old man entering his 21st season that he should be banging in the post more often. Ya'll do the math everyone.

@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity 10 месяцев назад

How many rings did playin in the post get Malone 😂

@TyroneNBAFan 10 месяцев назад

Tell me you don't know about the modern NBA without telling me 😂

@danielphagans2066 10 месяцев назад

@user-gh2df6fk3w You mean the LeBron 1st year in Miami and Dwade remember the league started testing and how the boats buddies all cut and lose weight even Melo back then. Yes LeBron spends millions on his body BUT BACK THEN ALL OF THEM WAS ON THE HGH

@canarynino84 10 месяцев назад

Lebron compared to Karl Malone is like comparing Reggie Miller to Stephen Curry.... Accept this generation of players does everything better.

@xerospades 10 месяцев назад

They surely don't defend or stay healthy in comparison to back then.

@bayareayackem100 10 месяцев назад

Not defense.

@langanhlakanipho 10 месяцев назад

You say this cause you watching them now... watch 90's ball, the game was different (doesn't necessarily mean better) also unfair comparing a top 20 guy to a top 2 guy

@canarynino84 10 месяцев назад

@@langanhlakanipho I thought the same thing how can they compare lebron to Karl?? There's really no comparison.

@saycheese6773 10 месяцев назад

That stat is misleading, you need to include the team records and playoffs. Going just by the stats that Nick has shown, you’d say lebron is top 3 in the league and better than KD and Steph were during their MVP seasons. Stats so misleading.

@comradelupe6976 10 месяцев назад

"Facts over feelings".... "You're relying just on stats" lmao And nick called him on it too! Lol

@KyleMacSkill 10 месяцев назад

Well because stats are inflated for scoring in this era chris was correct

@omartahboub2900 10 месяцев назад

Back in Karl Malone's time the was much physical, teams were more physical and scoring was much more difficult. And as Cherry on top, the probability of getting injured was much higher impacting the players longevity in the League.

@Catinthehat-kq3pk 10 месяцев назад

The true meaning of Power Forward he doesn't have Malone's Heart.

@poly_g6068 10 месяцев назад

The probability of injury is statistically higher today.

@jackass541 10 месяцев назад

yea that last part is just a straight up a lie

@3rdCoastAlliance 10 месяцев назад

All Rich Paul said was: "If you lost your athleticism, you'd still be a good player." There's no reason to read anything else into it.

@TechyCatz 10 месяцев назад

This is the only channel that keeps me invested for almost 20 minutes

@alvaroalfaro9478 10 месяцев назад

Karl Malone is athletic. End to end he was faster than some guards. Lebron would be more like later years Magic Kohnson if he lost athletic prowess

@martindominguez1518 10 месяцев назад

“To the guy that impregnated a teenager” left that out Broussard.

@mr.mr.4772 10 месяцев назад

Two teenagers.

@jacklumsden7444 10 месяцев назад

In fairness. So did lebron. Granted he was also a teen.

@brotherLee340 10 месяцев назад

Why would he put that in?? He is talking about what he did on the court. Malone was a beast

@hooligan5381 10 месяцев назад

thats 30 years ago fool you wasn't even born how you speaking on some you know nun about

@eduardoarancibia169 10 месяцев назад

@@mr.mr.4772two!?

@kangamagic1206 10 месяцев назад

lol. Nick Wright clearly didn't watch basketball in the 1990s. The game was slower. 27ppg was way more impressive than 29ppg now. Malone's points, rebounds, and assists were all far more impressive; Malone was a more impactful player in his prime than Lebron is right now. Nick's argument is borderline insane.

@JD-xr3gi 10 месяцев назад

LeBron in the past few years clearly only care about offensive stats. it's the combination of he knows 99% of the fans only care about offensive stats, AND father time that he knows he can no longer use energy on both ends of the floor like he used to.

@Mason_23 10 месяцев назад

Because he’s 38 he can’t give you both end of the floor.

@1vaultdweller 9 месяцев назад

2020 Lebron was a beast on the defensive end tough.

@chickhearn4ever779 10 месяцев назад

Revisionist History about what Malone was and was not. What did he do? He swept Shaq Young Kobe Eddie Jones and Van Exel. 4 active all stars, 2 future hall of famers. He beat Tim Dunan (rookie of the year) active all star , future hall of famer and David Robinson active all star and future hall of famer. He beat an aging 4 future hall of famers rockets team twice. What did he do before the finals? A lot actually against teams 2 teams who later became dynastic.

@guitarlearningtoplay 10 месяцев назад

Better stats would be % of the teams overall stats in each category and their plus minus when in the game vs. out of the game. Then you can compare stats

@donivanhummel3106 10 месяцев назад

I'm forgetting a lot I'm sure, but it wasn't just Olojawn. Barkley was in Phoenix, Garnett in Minnesota towards the end, Muttombo in Denver. It was a more physical league with better Defensive players who were allowed to be more hands on.

@WinedandDined27 10 месяцев назад

David Robinson, Shaq, Alonzo mourning, Rodman, Ewing

@edwinp.martinez151 10 месяцев назад

Here Nick go being outta pocket 🤣🤣

@jayomar6054 10 месяцев назад

Lol comparing LBJ to anybody but the goat sounds disrespectful to me.

@magicjohnson5733 10 месяцев назад

To Malone, not to lebron

@demodiums7216 10 месяцев назад

@@magicjohnson5733are you blind?

@filltheglass2618 10 месяцев назад

I think Wildes should have his own program interviewing athletes. Asking question on performance, routine and mental fortitude

@kingp2245 10 месяцев назад

The disrespect of Karl Malone is beyond ridiculous

@darronarnold3526 10 месяцев назад

“You can’t just throw up a bunch of numbers and say he’s just as good” Literally the sports analysts entire job

@penkima4923 5 месяцев назад

No, that's what the official keeping statistics does.

@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork 10 месяцев назад

5:52 Karl Malone was also playing 80-82 games back then even when he was old, until the year he got hurt with the Lakers.

@tobyclark6534 10 месяцев назад

LeBron has obviously had a better career than Karl, but lets not act like LeBron has close to the strength that Karl had. Karl would guard Shaq at the end of games, had good post moves, screened and rolled better than anyone, and had a rock solid mid range game. They're totally different players so the whole conversation is a typical "it's summer, we've got nothing to talk about" conversation.

@raph30bawe 10 месяцев назад

26 pts per game in the 90's its like 32 now

@NebraskaSXHC 10 месяцев назад

You think LeBron would sleep with 13 year olds?

@bingbong4074 10 месяцев назад

Skip would believe it 😂

@chiefmiyagi9802 10 месяцев назад

@@bingbong4074 "You know it and I know it!"

@lisarollins4880 10 месяцев назад

@@bingbong4074 😅

@lisarollins4880 10 месяцев назад

@@chiefmiyagi9802 🤣

@flowaroundtherock 10 месяцев назад

The fact that Broussard tried to use a 40-point LeBron game as an argument against LeBron shows the insane standard that we hold LeBron to.

@jstino779 10 месяцев назад

He’s making the argument for empty stats vs effective stats.

@flowaroundtherock 10 месяцев назад

@@jstino779 I guess 40/10/9 on 60% shooting with only 1 turnover is empty stats 🤷‍♂️

@andrewnguyen9085 10 месяцев назад

@@jstino779 He has no argument. The lakers got further in the playoffs than the Jazz this season than the Jazz did in Karl Malone's 1999 season. Makes more sense for Karl's to be empty than Lebron's if your point is about stats correlating to winning lol.

@Bama2ohio 10 месяцев назад

@@flowaroundtherockis that the game where he scored like 2 points in the second half? Just curious

@escobarrizzay3599 10 месяцев назад

@@jstino779use that same standard against everyone team who ends up losing the game not just LeBron. You won't because you just don't like LeBron. Your brain can't move past that 😂

@pmodi1104 10 месяцев назад

Broussard is correct, context is everything, possessions, pace, and style of play impact stats

@ktpast 10 месяцев назад

When wilds said, josh… still employed 🤣

@byron2099 10 месяцев назад

Everyone let’s Brou get his point across once nick speaks brou cuts him off a lot sometimes …. Still the best show ever

@lovey019 10 месяцев назад

These segments where Nick sets up numbers and makes huge assertions show where Nick is a absolute prisoner of analytics and his love for Bron.

@crosswiz6 10 месяцев назад

People like Nick are a CANCER to sports media

@TimurQuinton442 10 месяцев назад

Add 5 to 6 points for Malone if he played today or take that off Lebron if he played in the Golden years.

@Aba19xx 10 месяцев назад

it's pathetic when you compare the average of players in different eras. The '90s teams averaged around 95 points per game and the last years averaged 110 per game.

@Derpfriar 10 месяцев назад

for those of who are still on the delusion that Klutch Sorts Nick is off the charts pro Lebron, you can hear it here from his colleagues. " this is a little insulting to Lebron " * Collective sigh from his friends with an " ok " When it comes to Lebron he literally debates like a teenager and would try to convince you that night is day

@kangaroocourt9507 10 месяцев назад

Nick bodied Bru in that debate, Bru couldn't even make an argument other "you can't just use stats" also, using literally when we already assume you're being literal is how a teenager would type.

@harrisonpointer7894 10 месяцев назад

@@kangaroocourt9507 Brou won that easily. comparing 1999 statline to 2023 is utterly ridiculous and anyone with any basketball knowledge knows that

@ukbleedbluex9340 10 месяцев назад

@@harrisonpointer7894 ⁠⁠ They both went nowhere here. None of them “won”. They both had nothing to say to prove their own argument or disprove the other.

@kangaroocourt9507 10 месяцев назад

@@harrisonpointer7894 take Lebrons stats from whatever year you want, he's better. Is it really that crazy to say the 1st or 2nd greatest player of all time is better at any given point than the maybe 20th best of all time?

@Derpfriar 10 месяцев назад

@@kangaroocourt9507 This is a Nick burner account for sure.

@pauly1124 10 месяцев назад

I’m surprised nobody brought up the pace of play, physicality, and usage of 3 as a point to why Malone’s stats are lower than Lebron’s. It’s basically just like inflation but with NBA numbers lol😂

@philipdevita5497 10 месяцев назад

I TOTALLY hate when they compare players. Just makes no sense to me. Why can't we just appreciate GREATNESS of the person's without comparing

@callenmascarenhas8923 10 месяцев назад

Learning of the day: One cannot compare numbers from different eras, since the game scores were low in the past.

@penkima4923 5 месяцев назад

There's no problem comparing eras. Just take the pace of the game into account.

@ehhyomikey7738 10 месяцев назад

Karl Malone 😮google him before you compare him to anyone else 🤔🤔

@abluminberg 10 месяцев назад

FYI, in 97 and 98 he went through Shaq both times

@RJ-nd3qb 10 месяцев назад

Nick, stop comparing numbers and making it seem like that is the overall winning argument. We really going to compared the current NBA stats to 90s NBA basketball? 😂 this is a joke.

@JimBrave-ri1oc 10 месяцев назад

Also the stat that matters the most is Jazz 64 Wins at the end of the season and the 1 seed while the Lakers are an 8th seed every year with lebron at 41 wins.

@Parker5767 10 месяцев назад

stop comparing eras..There is zero defense in today's NBA and lacks the following.

@hot2chocolate 10 месяцев назад

Chris’ face at 3:27…lmao 😂 my man’s was sick😂😂😂

@natecrumbs 10 месяцев назад

Wildes is the best thing about this show.

@timothymoore2966 10 месяцев назад

Real talk I didn’t like him at first. I compared him to skip because they both like to troll. Wildes actually knows wtf he is doing

@mackniffy 10 месяцев назад

Nick is completely discounting stat inflation of this era

@JustAverageLarry 10 месяцев назад

Chris talking bout Bron didn’t have the impact when they literally made it to the conference finals and lost to the eventual champs.. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@kylewilloughby1983 10 месяцев назад

Cal Ripkin did in fact play baseball

@juliolara274 10 месяцев назад

This take really showed Nick’s Lebron bias, which hurts his objectivity and clouds his other arguments about Lebron (which he has great takes on Lebron) … The comparison of Lebron’s last two years and Malone’s MVP years based on numbers is what we call playing the numbers and shows that you can find numbers to argue anything you want… if there is no context… anything out of context is a pretext…

@erikpuka2627 10 месяцев назад

He doesn't have great takes on Lebron. Thats false.

@elijahlei1110 10 месяцев назад

The new age rules CONSIDERABLY helped Lebron's career...much like the NFL QB rule changes helped Brady. And same size?? lol, umm Karl was way more muscular....and on flip side tho...slower.

@Frank-nz1wr 10 месяцев назад

What do u mean by new age rules? Bc lebron played half his career in a tough physical era too

@Cooleyhyh 10 месяцев назад

@@Frank-nz1wrno tf he didn’t 😂 don’t change the narrative just to fit your agenda

@buzziinmarciano5709 10 месяцев назад

What new age rules ?

@user-cs1pi8zg1n 10 месяцев назад

@@Frank-nz1wrpeople act like Lebron start playing like 5-8 yrs ago

@YungLanxx 10 месяцев назад

@@Cooleyhyhwhat agenda? He factually started playing in the NBA in 2003. Are you suggesting Kobe, Iverson, Tmac, Shaq, KG and Tim Duncan played in a soft era? You Lebron detractors are something special I swear smh