Rick and Morty has an Identity Crisis 

It's not as simple as that

@@SciRuler key words: "I feel"

Yesssss, it's probably not like that but it feels like some guys are working on the canon stuff and character development. And then they tell the rest to come up with filler episode based on absurd concepts...and they mess it up. The filler episodes are killing the show

So it is okay as a episode says me im never even going to watch rick and morty

The Ice T episode was a guest writer that doesn't normally work on the show btw. He wrote several episodes of Community though

I wonder if it's cause they're running out of ideas. Like when they get a good idea the writers get excited, but sometimes they have no idea what to do for an episode and do whatever

It feels like they want to do the most left field plots so the super hyper fans can't predict the next plot point. Sorry if that doesn't make sense English is not my native language.

What if it’s intentional? Hear me out, just for a second… what if the some of the creators, screenwriters, directors, producers, etc, have lots of experience with the TV and show business world to the point of them understanding that you need at least some balance of good and bad to keep a sitcom type show going strong and not being cancelled or annoying the execs too much? Hear me out. I know it sounds a bit “conspiraciony”, but trust me I’m the last kind of guy to buy into conspiracy stuff, I’m usually more into structured and orderly systems that make sense! Wouldn’t a perfect system be one devoid of any kind of flaws, where all episodes without exceptions are bangers, 10/10s, and nothing is even remotely weak or less perfect? But one must take into account the nature of TV. I’m not going to write an essay here, but I think most people would’ve gotten my point by now. You will inevitably have weaker and lacklustre episodes in even the most critically acclaimed (as a whole) pieces of media. That is inevitable, particularly when you take into account that media that has had seasons lauded in the past will inevitably tend to be held to higher standards in the future, thus to harsher and harsher ratings and expectations by both the critics and the public alike. An episode or series of ideas/events in the story that could have been seen as “a breath of fresh air” or “mindblowing” if it was aired in the first season of a show, could be rated as “tiresome”, “redundant”, “already been done plenty of times”, “boring” if it happens during a latter season, seeing as judgement and critic is not done in a vacuum, it is influenced by comparison to what has been done before in the show. And if what was done was exceptional in the first or second or maybe even the first half of the third season, then the things done in a 7th, 8th or 9th season will obviously be compared to the “peak” first seasons where everything was brand new and seen as incredibly original and innovative… and thus be prone to negative comparison bias, where the great aspects of something make the aspects of something else seem lacklustre or bad in comparison. Even though, in a vacuum, some of the episodes of the latter seasons may hold their ground, if they were released earlier. I’m not slamming critics here. Criticism is necessary, audience feedback as well. It can help propel media further and influence creative workers, designers, producers and writers in positive ways. But it is undeniable that there are certain… “non-dits”, secrets of the industry that can take a long time to understand, or a lot of insider knowledge, or a lot of experience or a lot of good connections with people who know about how it works, to understand. The “contrast effect” (decisional science and choice, how animals or human individuals make a choice of preferring X program instead of Y program is more complex than it seems) I mentioned is a real thing in psychology, it has been borrowed from those researchers that proved it over and over again, and transposed and complemented into economics (choice theory, game theory, etc.), marketing research, public relations, design, creative fields as well, show business, media. People will tend to like certain episodes/seasons way more if they are put in stark contrast to other weaker episodes/seasons. So what is there to stop the reasoning, at some point in a show, to divert resources towards certain “stronger” episodes, particularly towards the beginning and end of a season, if doing so actually helps said episodes seem even better by contrast with a few weaker one that allowed to save some effort for the others? Ideally, everything would be perfect and great and amazing, right? It doesn’t play like that often in real life. Even shows with seemingly universal critical acclaim like Breaking Bad had weak/“bad” episodes, as well as some seasons considered “weaker” or less impactful as to the canon of the main story. Same for trilogies like the Godfather, or series of movies like Star Wars. Same for author movies or shows: Lynch was considered a genius of originality and creativity, yet be flopped Dune with a huge budget. There aren’t 50 different “Citizen Kane” for a reason, and if there were, there would surely be at least 10 weaker or bad ones in there. TV shows’ episodic nature as a medium, particularly in sitcoms like R&M, is prone to contrast paradox and preference bias. Maybe sprinkling in some more mellow or “filler” episodes that don’t take themselves too seriously is all part of the plan. Since trying to make every single episode of a season be perfect and a masterpiece doesn’t happen at all, maybe in the first or (more rarely) second season of a show it can… but afterwards, it either happens in the final season if a show or it doesn’t happen very often at all. It’s normal. Things level off for a while not only due to the staff producing/writing the show, but also due to viewer expectations and their bias of preference marked by contrast bias (hurr durr nothing is equal PEAK season 1 of [insert any show of an episodic nature here]).

they have good ideas, just clearly not enough of them so they shove absolute shit in between just to get to that 10 episode season.

@@racool911 Sadly I think that might be the case. After about 5-6 seasons it seems to happen with most series. Most of season 7 seems recycled to me. Only a couple episodes are fresh, but I don't think all are good, and about 2-3 episodes are better than mediocre.

I don't mind those things. Sometimes I like when they flip off fans who only want fan service.

@@alankoslowski9473 It's doesn't add to the story at all though. The only point is to make people feel good for agreeing with the author. It's extremely weak writing even if you like it.

Well it's not like we've done that Jerry and Rick had an affair. But it was funny and good?

@@babygorilla4233Rick and Jerry aren’t related

It was funny snowflake 😂

I already fix the show by pretending

Dan Harmon is the incest guy

he stopped writing after season 3 he only voice acted

The Incest Jokes have been thoroughly confirmed to have been Dan, and Dan is still there (as one is when they steal a show from someone else and get away with it), so yeah.

@@lexruptor dude you’ve been playing this stupid act for so long that I’m starting to think that you’re believing everything you say is true, now just both sad and hilarious.

@@lexruptor at it again are you? alright little man you asked for it 😏

And Hey, no incest for a while is nice too

Besides the numbers episode and air force wong, which other ones were bad?

Yeah like even the less-than-adequate episodes were unique and experimental and actually made me feel something. Season 7 is like a primordial soup, a chaotic mess where hopefully the good stuff will stick and the bad will be lost to time.

campaigns are the time for speeches

Probably cuz roiland left

yeah I can't see the hate of like half the hated episodes. Like Quato, Numbercon, and Vallhalla are just....dumb fun? I almost feel they were awkward on purpose too to represent Rick being off his game, like ESPECIALLY the Numbercon epieosde completely missing him They weren't super good but I think calling any of them the worst shit ever is INSANE given the god damn Horse semen, or Voltron or god just actually half the episodes in season 3-5 that felt physically PAINFUL to watch. I think getting wound up about the Mid Episode Plot twist or an episode missing Rick is being too I guess meta poisioned? I hated the meta crap too but these meta jokes just felt like in good spirit, at most rick just going "Oh so we're doing that this week" Tbh I WILL say for Quato though, there was a missed opportunity for the B plot starting after Rick leaves and involving Jerry and/or Beth finding the device and abusing it. Coulda tightened up the pace of the few bits that dragged, maybe coulda dropped the episode twist earlier. Numbercons is definitely just DUMB but it feels like overly endearingly cheesey that I have a hard time disliking it.

@@JammyJam5588 I actually liked the Valhalla episode, if for nothing else but that cold open was hilarious AF. Also, Air Force Wong, The Jerrick Trap, and Fear No Mort are in my list of top favorite episodes now, and Unmortricken was an insane lore dump.

So you like boring, predictable fan service? No thanks. I'd prefer they give us the finger and try new things rather than offer tepid, recycled fan service.

@@alankoslowski9473your local dollar general cashier 😂

@@RobertRothermel The Valhalla episode certainly wasn't the best, but man did it have me laughing. "It's over, The Pope!"

I honestly think they're just flat out better voice ACTORS than Justin was in the roles. Like it feels as though they're giving much more of a performance rather than just 'doing a voice'

yeah season 3 the cracks were showing and then after that justin really just did not give a shit

@@windy1439 yeah I just watched some season 6 and Rick just sounded so...flat

I really did not care about the new voice actors like not even one care

I just hope Morty's voice gets a bit less squeaky. Rick's voice is perfect at this point

my problem with that episode is that it should not exist it's a literal filler callback to after credits scene WHY

Normally R&M parodies tropes/cliches, but this episode kinda just... does them. They wanted to parody generic action movies, but just made one instead.

@@CoryTheNorm I could say this about the entire season and the previous one. They became what they mocked because of how un self aware they were. TWICE!!

So you prefer the mostly simple, juvenile humor of season 7 over the more nuanced, complex humor of previous seasons?

​@@alankoslowski9473"complex" lmao😂

Yeah, most of the series' best episodes have great B plots which add a nice level of sophistication. As the reviewer said, too much of season 7 seems like annoying and boring weird for the sake of weird.

@@alankoslowski9473 yeah true, funny because when it tried not to be weird like ep5 it was at its seasons best.

@@Purtle Weird is fine, but there needs to a point. Like how the Mad Max parody episode tied in family issues related to Beth and Jerry's separation. The Quato episode could have used something like that.

@@alankoslowski9473 yeah

Yeah the loss of the attribute slider was so frustrating. It's such a cool concept, and beth and jerry would have been perfect for ir

So does the bender voice guy but everybody loves him. Just say you don’t like roiland

Most American VA's have only 1 voice that they do for every character. If you watch anime you will notice this a lot. Roiland however had 3 voices he could do.

⁠@@roostre5254And many of those VAs can do their one voice better then Justin can the 3.

@@roarbertbearatheon8565I care to disagree. I think bender has a genuine separation from dr drakken while Morty is just a toned down lemongrab.

@@roostre5254 Roiland is definitely average to above average, but he's definitely not exceptional. The Simpsons have a handful of VA's voicing hundreds of characters. Even Seth MacFarland, someone know for being really middle of the road in quality has a much better range than Roiland.

Nah bro the new voices suck. Especially Morty's.

If you think Morty's new voice sucks you... Can have that opinion but as a Morty fan it's great

I forgot they even had new actors. ​@@kadewade8726

Because nobody cares anymore 💀 This show is dead, most people just rewatch an occasional episode.

​@@Troller235It was only a little off because the voice actors had to essentially dub over the already done lines by Roiland. Later episodes sound better.

It's kind of stupid how against storylines and lore they often were, going as far to even make fun of people for wanting that through the show (even if it was meant in a lighthearted manner) because _they_ were the ones to introduce it in the first place. If they never had, and kept more a season 1 vibe throughout the rest of the show, nobody would really be hankering for it as much as they have been. People love the lore and want more of it.

​@glitchon7151ba dum tss

@glitchon7151Ba-dum tiss

Correct grammar would be “ my girlfriend and I”

@@Blorckits It happens

@@jadjason6053 Yep, nothing wrong with that. Just wanted to let you know. Not trying to insult you or anything. Just like if I had a booger in my nose, I would want somebody to tell me.

This season still felt nice I think ppl expect real continuity from s6 alr gave up Fr I didn't know s7 started until 3 days past ep 1. S6 left awful taste in me

S6 ep 1 was a tone death cramped rehash of previous seasons. No moment, theme or plot point had a chance to thrive without being crushed by another.

I’m also someone who disagrees with most of the discourse surrounding the shows recent seasons. It can certainly be criticized but I think the level of quality is still fairly high and this season was outright great

⁠@@ibi7928right honestly i enjoyed 6 more than 7 i really dont get the dramatic critiques never really understood the hatred of season 3 its actually the most rewatchble to me(now 5 was awful) i think the fanbase is unwilling to grow with the show

Oh yeah, thank you for this @Ultimate_Omni_10

Oh so im going to guess people have over praised this season

@@hybridvenom9 Only one way to find out, I personally thought all of the episodes were good, but some were definitely better or much better than others.

@@JordanPlayz158 i really cannot trust any of these people just saying oh yeah it is "better"

@@hybridvenom9 then see for yourself, most reliable way to know

yeah that's what he said in the video

So, up to part for Rick and Morty...

I think overall the season was one of their best! I wouldn’t consider any of them “outright garbage”. Have you seen the slut dragon episode lately? Now that’s garbage. Season 4, 5 and 6 also had some rough ones.

Season 1 and 2 were exciting and fresh but it's before they blew up in popularity after season 3 it's like something was interfering with their natural creativity

OPEN YOUR MIIIIIND

Yes, but while I think it's nice the finale' was probably the season's best episode, it doesn't redeem the rest which was mostly equal parts good, mediocre, and dreck. The Numbericons episode is awful.

common twitter W

​@@lemon5000-tj6nv And L

Twitter is just trashy fun for degenerates.

@@lemon5000-tj6nvI’ll give Twitter this it’s about as consistent as schizophrenic drug addict

Not really in my opinion

There is literally 2 good episodes in this season and the rest are unwatchable. You're staring through 6-inch thick rose-tinted glasses to be riding this season so hard, it was the worst we've ever had.

⁠@@robertwaksberg Yeah no..this was honestly a good season. I would say we had 6 great epsidoes, 2 fun / good And 2 bad. This was a good season and Im not alone in thinking that. Excited for more.

@@robertwaksberg I may not 100% agree with the assessment that this is the best season we've gotten in years, but I think you are being more than a little hyperbolic when you say 8 episodes this season are "unwatchable".

Agreed. I think it's the best season since 3 hands down.

Season 6 was gas

Given the show’s declining health and the improvements that are coming I’d say.. After therapy

probably cancellation

Rick and morty goes to sonic.exe or something like that i probably got a episode right in like the future

Honestly an identity crsis is better than a decline

What that rick and morty goes to sonic.exe that reskin sonic

Watch it be pink

I doubt it will ever peak again since that almost never happens. The Simpsons had some decent episodes after season 7, but no seasons are as consistently good as the ones before.

I'm honestly glad about this. It overstayed it's welcome like a guy telling the same joke over and over hoping someone laughs. And it wasn't even really that funny. It only served as shock value. Though I sadly expect another cameo by the baby.

Ikr

True. But I did actually enjoy the lightsaber episode.

Eh, it was dumb fun

I agree it sucked the rest was great. The quato knife had me in pieces

I really wanted to like that episode, I liked them returning to it, but there were just a number of little things that made that episode bothersome for me. I honestly think this season was overall pretty good, and a step up from the past couple seasons. The first episode was the weakest episode if you ask me

It already was that for the past few seasons besides a few episodes

"You think it's on a pedestal? It'll be standing next to me before you know it..." - Peter Griffin, Meat Canyons video

It already was

I feel like with the newest episodes, it'll be more like simpsons where it'll be ok and then suddenly out of the blue peak and then back to ok

Yeah, while they aren't perfect, the voices are generally fine. The writing is more the problem I think.

To be fair, at least i think s6 was mid by rick and morty standards, not by tv show standards. Truly mid episodes of RM are the worst episodes in the series. except the ice tea one, that was just straight up shit lol

No, the 'Numbericons' was DOA. An entire episode of verbal and math puns is an awful premise to begin with and it only got worse.

I thought season 5-6 were more consistent decent at least. Season 7 is bipolar.

they sound like impressionists and not very good ones. Adult Swim could've casted better, far better.

@@boop004 In all fairness to them o heard they had already animated all the first few episodes and then had to redo all the voices with the drop of roiland, so that explains why it sounds like they’re reading off of a scripts and there sounds like no improv but yeh i feel like i’ve heard some better impressions on tiktok😂

I remembered hearing that Roiland already did the voices before those allegations popped up. I assumed we we weren’t gonna hear the new voice actors until season 8 because of that

definitely it's actually rewatchable compared to s4, s5, and s6

they don't seem very consistent which I guess is expected for voice actors who are new to the characters. but on the other hand, I'm sure they could've found much better VAs that wouldn't have had such a noticeable learning curve WITHIN the episodes...

Do you mean season 8? I agree if you do. They probably had to redub a bunch of Roiland's lines this season, so I',m excited for eight to see how they really do on their own.

I wouldn't say fully talentless, he did have a style to him, and was capable of good things, But he was overpraised prior, and did not make up for his shortcomings, being one note the vast majority of the time when his gig is already abrasive. He's certianly a hack though, as was a bad experince for almost everyone he worked with, and impressions of his voice and style are common and somewhat easy.

⁠@@_-Lx-_can we admit his range was limited to his morty voice and Rick voice?

Wasn't it Dan who was responsible for the incest jokes?

I initially had issues with Rick not being in the hole with Morty but in hindsight, it was the right decision. I wanted Rick to have actually had those experiences with Diane but that would have missed the point of the episode. When he returns at the end, you can tell he's about to jump in the hole. But he stops himself. And this is why. "Because you want to move on?" "Because I don't. And I have to."

True but he was already killing it albeit slowly. This does seem to be a good step in the right direction.

Those creepy texts and podcasts are proven though

In what way?

I agree. I don't think they were amazing for their entire runs but there were a lot of really good bangers. Honestly, a lot of what people say about season 7 can be applied to 6 and vice versa. Season 6 had some really great episodes, too, but also a few duds. The premiere in season 6 was a big highlight for me, so was Night Family, and I liked the Roy episode, although I can see how others might nt. That all said, Rise of the Numericons ia definitely my least favourite episode in the series, haha.

I honestly agree. I think the only reason these seasons are hated sm is because of how high the bar is for R&M

I agree. While some are better than others, seasons 1-6 range from very good to great. Season 7 is bipolar and mediocre. No great episodes, 2-3 good episodes, 4-5 mediocre episodes, and 2-3 lousy episodes. The Numbericons episode was by far the worst of the entire series. Awful.

@@alankoslowski9473 I think most people agree episode 4 episode 5, episode 9 and episode 10 were all really great episodes. Me personally I found episode 7 to be even worse then episode 8, with them and episode 1 being bottom of the barrel Rick and Morty. Episode 2 and 6 were kinda good aswell and episode 3 being painfully mediocre. I still think season 7 was much better than season 5.

@@racool911 I disagree. While there were a couple mediocre episodes, I thought most of season 5 was very good. It's definitely more consistent than season 7.

method acting lel

The premise was Morty getting over his reliance on Rick. Rick caring about Morty was like 10 seconds of the episode