RIDE THE CYCLONE *Show* Reaction - Ep. 42 of Musicals I Know Nothing About 

I mean, isn't that kind of perfect, given the subject matter?

Kinda is, right? ;)

How fitting!!

It also kind of sounds like an old movie projector which also fits.

Fair. Thanks for the help! Hahahaha

THIS IS ACTUALLY SO FUNNY AND I NEVER NOTICED IT 💀 THANK YOU SO MUCH

Fornication Under Consent Of The King is the assumed origin of the word fuck

@@calamity2383 It's not. That's a myth.

@@englishatheart Hence the word "assumed"

I actually look into this and the sentence actually straight up means having sex fornication = sexual intercourse between people not married to each other. In the time where there would be king, unmarried affairs is a punishable crime. This means that Jane is just saying legal unmarried sex, aka fucking

It's on the list!

oo so excited!

I love everything Jane does, including holding the mic for Constance during the solo. Watching Jane groove and then be like _why am I holding a tambourine_ is hilarious. I've seen a couple other productions where Ocean holds the mic for Constance, and both are completely valid choices based on Constance's arc with both of them.

I agree Also during "the new birthday song" granted they make that one on the spot because plot but at the end when Karnak die they do perform "it's just a ride" of their own free will, because it's them excepting their death (but that does make me wonder about Jane "i know this dream of life is never ending it goes around and round again")

@@pdtrx4900 I think it means that in the future, Jane/Penny will see them all again. And they’ll be waiting, too.

​@@-Chaos_Potato-AWWH OMG

Great insight, my friend! :)

And this is not the first either. The one before this had two acts and more characters

As someone from a small town in the middle of nowhere that’s very accurate lol

Yeah ride the cyclones part of a trilogy it hunk that's the word it's the second part all the parts are set in uranium and penny lamb is one of the main characters in the first one called lego land

WHERES THE OG VID PLS-

at the beginning of the musical karnak says he read all their fortunes, maybe that was Jane's

@@Bread_n_Butter420He said he’s read everyone’s fortune but Jane’s, which is why he didn’t know who she is.

@@josephsherby Maybe that would’ve been her fortune if Karnak told it?

also there’s 7 characters (we’re not including virgil)

And also, Father Markus died exactly 7 hours after the incident

Holy crap that’s so adorable 😭

That's actually not canon, just a popular fan-theory!

@@aleeyalopz4730 oh genuinely didn't know kekw

its canon in my eyes

​@@themelodicduo7759its canon in our hearts 😌😌

I even find the way she blinks doll-like (eventhough they don't blink)

@@lottekomkommer That too! Dolls that closed their eyes were a big thing from the early 1900's to the 1980's. Totally appropriate for the "doll's head" she's wearing. 👍

@@ChristopherRuggles Plurals don't use apostrophes. It's just 1900s and 1980s.

​@@englishatheartI rely on autocorrect a lot due to memory loss from Long Covid. But thanks for the belittlement. That was fun.

@@ChristopherRuggles Wasn't really belittlement, just a correction, but go you!!! 😍😘😘 I'm sure strangers on the Internet care about your tragic memory loss 🥺🥺 Edit: My friend's comment on this: "i mean @englishatheart kinda no one asked but wtv pop off but also @ChristopherRuggles babygirl i think u just mad + how has memory loss got anything to do with whether u use apostrophes or not i seriouslt doubt your memory is that far gone that u physically can’t remember when u need an apostrophe or not bcos at that point its fuckin dementia not long covid mate" AND LMAOOO I AGREE WITH MY MATE SO MUCH

OHMYGOD

Yeeeeeeees, I totally forgot to comment on that and was hoping someone would mention it, but it makes me very happy too

Yep! And, the fact that Jane is wrong foreshadows that she'll be the one to go back too! Kronos never ate Zeus, his youngest (last) son. Jane is implied to be the last to die, being that she screams all through Fall Fair/Uranium suite, and is introduced to the audience last. She is the Zeus of this situation

Iirc, that's a different Kronos. You're probably talking about the titan one, father of Zeus who ate all his children.

@@goosewho2903 no i am referring to the kronos of greek mythology, in my language both are zeus and kronos are referred as gods as we dont have word for titan

@@wolframshibuya2693 yeah but, the god of time Kronos is different from the one that ate Zeus and his siblings

Absolutely amazing!

He sounds so much better than the soundtrack

was he really hot the whole time (as in, temperature)? When I watch this I always think the actor must have been really uncomfortable the whole time lol. Not just hot but really restricted with the mask and staying stuck in one place the whole time

Yeah someone mentioned it on the other video, I'm obsessed with that

@@Barbara2.0 yeah, I remember my brain malfunctioning when I first found out

yeah, I saw a tumblr post that said that Noel's lament is a ballad and the ballad of jane doe is a lament lmao

My own personal theory for this is because what Noel wanted was a lament, he wanted a lament because he craved a sad story, likewise Jane wanted a ballad, she wanted a story to tell :)

@@nibble_nephim OH MY GOD YOUR RIGHT!

Ohh that might explain why she was introduced a little bit later than the others, since she died after them?

@@ChuuyasCvmslut iirc, when someone is beheaded there's still a little bit of oxygen on their brain which allows the brain to keep working for a little bit before finally dying It's not a lot so it's not like they can stay alive for a long time, but it's long enough to keep them "alive" for a little bit Since Jane is introduced later, it's possible that when she got beheaded she was still alive for a few moments and that's why she showed up later, this is backed up by the line: "And from the ground, beneath my feet, I hear the anguish of the street" which also could mean that she was alive for a *little* while after being beheaded

Oh yeah, I did. Was just stunned by the words she used hahahaha

I remember when I first watched the show and I was so confused!! It wasn’t until I read the lyrics that I realized it was fuck

this!!! and it’s projected on jane because she has no sense of her own personality/body and she’s represented as talia because nobody really can be

Omg i want to read this essay SO BAD would you consider sharing it?

super late but i wanna read this essay.

A nuclear chemistry joke nice

Yeah, I got into Ride the Cyclone just before my class was doing nuclear chemistry When listening to Uranium Suite, the "we came here for the half life" happened and the joke clicked and everything made sense

This, but also that comment about how Mischa's real mom died from radiation at Chernobyl. He was spared from losing his life to uranium like his mother only to have the life sucked out of him rotting in a basement in Uranium, while his only source of love was back in the country he had been sent away from.

Noel*

About the second fact. I don't think it's her. I know this did occur, but she just played this role in early shows like the Canadian cast.

Can I have the timestamp for the first fact?

@@baconpro694204:55

@@baconpro69420 4:55

Hahahaha took a while for my brain to process that was actually happening xD

@@Barbara2.0 did I mention SHE FLIES! Emily Rohm deserves all the awards.

Couldn't agree more!!!

I definitely got Cats vibes when I first watched this show. It reminded me of that video essay by Sideways where it said that basically Cats only works because of Memory. You'd be a dick to hear Memory and then think that any of the other cats deserve to be reborn. With this, it's the Ballad of Jane Doe. As soon as she sings that, you can't imagine anyone else being chosen to come back to life.

Space Age Bachelor Man flashbacks 😭

nischa my beloveds

nischa the world

Nischa my beloved

I think it's interesting that while Misha thought they'd both go back to back, Noel went in for a hug like the girls, leaving them both a little awkward

Noel and mischa rlly are the scrunkly wunklys

“I’m gonna stand, a little farther away from you now.”

nice benny pfp

TALLLLIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Three

yeah dude, i heard tragic fact, what the world needs, noel's lament and the ballad of jane doe not knowing how they were literally all the same musical xDDDD

I love how distinct all the songs are, they do a great job at representing how different each character is :)

Im more of a melody person than lyrics which song is that from???

@@wolframshibuya2693 “it’s not a game it’s just a ride”

I love that speech so much as well, especially the whole "I was thinking awful things about my parents that I didn't want to because they were good people". Ugh it's so real. The way you can lose control of your own thoughts and feelings because of peer pressure/gaslighting is awful and that speech reflects that so well. I think the whole virginity thing makes a lot of sense for her though because she's the type of person who used to do things just to please other people or feel included and losing her virginity to a stranger in a carnival is a pretty bad thing so it kinda helps reinforce how far she was willing to go to feel like the other kids

I always saw Constance losing her virginity as two things. 1: The complete opposite of what Ocean wanted her to be and 2: her conforming to what the teens around her are. It wasn't exactly nice, or something she enjoyed, but something she had to do to be a "normal" teen. She isn't proud of the choice.

I get what you're saying about it not feeling organic. They tried a little too hard to make her pathetic. Peeling glue off her fingers, untying a knot, having sex in a shitbox, etc. She would've committed suicide.

As someone who really relates to constance in a lot of ways, I disagree. Idk you tend to just blurt those things out. I also lost my virginity in a way I'm very ashamed of just to lose it because I felt I lived my life in a box as just the nice prudish kid. It's sporadic but that what you devolve to when you feel like a loser. I also am one to blurt out things like that when I get emotional or when I feel like I won't be judged because you're so used to holding in that shame that you just want to let it out, even if it seems out of place. It would honestly feel more forced to me if there was build up because building up to saying things like that makes you want to retreat more.

I always really understood that line actually. There’s a certain point you can reach in hating yourself where you start to wish bad things on yourself or complicitly let easily avoided things happen or even seek them out because you think it’s what you deserve or that it proves that you are what you think you are, and there’s consolation in being right and having “proof” you’re right. In Constance’s case she thinks she’s a loser and that this proves it. You stop seeing yourself as you and start seeing yourself as this other person that you hate or as this character in a story that you’re just helping reach it’s “logical” conclusion. “Constance the lifer loses it to a carnie in a crap box. Why of course she did.” She feels like that’s the logical conclusion. Hopefully that makes sense.

Wow I didn't know that. Love seeing how a show develops so I'll definitely look into them. Thanks!

Actually I’m pretty sure he’s saying “+” not “W”

REAL

I mean Karnak does control them at times to keep the story moving along (with the musical sequences), but he does emphasize at the beginning that their wills are their own. I personally think he just said that to explain why they were going along with the choreography and backing of each song (especially in Ocean's song at the beginning, i mean if a person called you and everyone else losers that are never getting ahead in life while singing thier own praises. I personally wouldn't want to be a part of the human pyramid she stands on.) But that is certainly a plausible theory though. I do agree that Karnak does encourage Ocean to develop throughout, and his decisions do reflect that, but I don't think Karnak would have forced a particular vote. It would go against the whole premise of making someone change by thier own free will, if Karnak had forced Ocean to vote for Jane she would have learned nothing. Ocean had to develop on her own, Karnak just helped with the process.

Hey lovely, my deepest apologies if I made you feel uncomfortable. I totally understand where you're coming from and wanted to make it clear where I'm coming from as well. The idea of him being better off dead would never even cross my mind, my comments in the video are about the people he had to deal with in life treating him as less than. It's about being away from people who caused him harm and treated him differently because of his disability. It's also not about him being better off dead, but being better off in a kinder place where he is free from a world that discriminates against him, not from his disability. I'm really sorry if I came across the wrong way or caused you any discomfort, my sincerest apologies, it was definitely not my intention

i thought the reason for his conceding was that because of his disability not exactly being something he could hide and knowing that where they live is pretty closed minded because of some things implied in some of the monologues (also how it’s implied ocean only got him in the club for sympathy points) that living there would be hard for him especially after dying and being able to move and talk as he liked that he was happier dead, i didn’t think of it like this😭 this really changed my point of view

I’ve read a lot of the discussion around this character, and I just want to say in response to this particular point, while it is a valid one, his intro makes it clear that he’s not so much “disabled” as he is terminally ill. He wasn’t born that way, and doesn’t have the prospect of a full (if different) life if he survives the accident. I think his concession isn’t implying disabled people don’t have lives worth living, but that Ricky has already come to terms with his death, and would rather die quickly in a roller coaster accident than slowly of a degenerative disease. If there’s a larger point to be made, it’s that terminally ill people have the right to choose death on their own terms.

Yeah the way he’s written is definitely uncomfortable, though I do think that his reason for conceding wasn’t bc he could not be happy, but bc he was already dying and had come to terms with his death, of course he wants to live again but he’s not going to be selfish and take another person’s chance at life, which is what the others realize.

This is just a personal opinion, but you made me want to share my thoughts as well :D I'm also disabled, and I think there was potential here for sure. They didn't have him - or the others - say he'd be better off not returning because his disability. He was also portrayed as being incredibly caring throughout the whole show, so the "don't be a dick" line feels like a perfectly believable reason why he'd concede! Misha's line about him being so "awesome in the afterline" is a big yikes though, that could have been worded better. Or at least been at a different moment, right after he concedes it reads too much as what you brought up. The decision to simply make him not disabled (among many other changes) for new performances irks me a lot. They didn't even make an effort to improve on what could have been great representation! Like what if they made it a point to clarify that his disabilities don't just disappear when he's that, because that's such an annoying concept and so harmful too, but because of Karnak's power or because his vivid imagination causes those changes in the twilight zone? It being such an in-between state would make sense for that! Maybe he could sign instead of speaking? Even if he suddenly gained the ability to speak, it would surely still feel more comfortable to sign. Just, so many things they could have considered.

All I'll say is, DON'T GO to that amusement park!!!

For what it's worth, saw the most recent incarnation of the play a couple of weeks ago, and things have changed a bit. Ricky doesn't concede that I recall, and don't remember anything about Ocean getting him in. (though I'm old.. I may have missed/forgotten it ;) The overall gist of the play in my observation (and Ricky specifically) is that everyone has had a valid life, even if Ricky's is mostly in his head. He's totally cool with that. He's the star of his own rock opera! If Ricky had a vote at the end, pretty sure he would have voted for Jane too, and not just to avoid his prior life. Fall fair suite was better than the new Uranium suite though... less about the town (who cares?) and more about the kids. It also contradicts Constance's early belief that the town sucks when they're singing it's praises to start the show... doesn't work as well in setting up the story. The sense you get from Fall Fair is that they're all individuals participating in a common activity that goes bad, not that they're a community/fast friends. It highlights the solo numbers initially and the group eventually coming together in death, etc.

@@koralisenv7014 Yeah, I commented this a while ago. I'm happier with how they portrayed Ricky but they didn't need to go as far as removing Ocean's ablism (it's part of what makes her so unlikable before we see that development). On the new intro song, Fall Fair Suite is just better, hands down but on them praising the town: I don't really agree. They're competing in a competition for their school, of course they're going to praise their town, they didn't even write the song either. But yeah, I'm very jealous of you, I want to see this musical live sooo bad. Hope you enjoyed.

@@tioraidh-tux Daughter, wife and friend/daughter went to see the show in New Hampshire last year. A different theatre advertised putting on a show somewhat closer to home, and my wife told daughter's friend, who tried out and got to be Ocean in the production. :) Gotta say, the show's rendition of Sugar Cloud was amazing. All of the songs were quite good, but Sugar Cloud put the cast recording to shame. There are a lot of regional theatres out there.. check their upcoming schedules and you might stumble on a production you can see. I could puke a rainbow!

What are you talking about?

@@MysteriousGirl10 the mccarter theatre production, they hired a disabled actor for ricky at first, only to fire him when their disability was inconvenient to them

@@ludovicadangelo2710 That's messed up.

I looked into it, and this did happen. It's horrible, and we should absolutely be angry, but I want to emphasize that this happened in a regional production, and neither the creators nor the original cast were involved. We should be mad at the staff who worked on that production, and the actor did name names, but I don't think talking about it on a video about the Broadway production is the best idea just because people might be confused and go after people who worked on the Broadway production

@@jamiehood850 Okay. Thanks for clarifying that. I thought it was the Broadway production that did that. Either way, it's still messed up.

6 actually. Tragic Fact (2008-2013) Keep That Dream Inside (original 2015 song made in 2014) The Fall Fair Suite 1.0 (2015) Fall Fair Suite 2.0/Minor Turn (2016) Waiting For The Drop (2018) Uranium Suite (2019-)

SHE TRULY IS

Do you mean hiphop?

I'm really excited about Alice by Heart, it's on the list ;)

I love ABH, but it’s definitely a hard one to follow through the soundtrack. I legit had no idea what the plot was about for ages because the bootleg was really rare at the time 😂 definitely think she should react to the bootleg

Hmmmm kinda like the challenge though... hahaha

@@Barbara2.0 …Ok on second thought, I would be curious to see how well you can piece it together. You definitely understood Ride the Cyclone better than I did on my first listen lol

Aaaaaahh coming 2023 for sure

I’m so excited especially because its one of the few shows where you can get most of the story from the album

@@averynerdybookworm972 yeah exactly, like you basically get the whole show and all context that’s needed all in the album

I love PJO in general, haven't gotten to watch the musical yet, is it on RU-vid?

@@Pokiandiit is, it was deleted kinda recently after four years but someone else uploaded another recording

@@DinoandGalaxy ooh thank you!

The show truly elevates most of the songs, it's a really different experience from listening to the cast recording

@@Barbara2.0 it’s so high energy in the show and I love it. Amazing musical

Thank you for being so excited about it!!

I haven't listened to the other openings (apparently there are a couple of other versions?) but I also like this one MUCH better than the album version

@@Barbara2.0 As far as I know, aside from this version and the album version there's one more called "Waiting For The Drop"

I once watched a production that instead of showing Mischa and Talia reuniting at the end of the song, showed Mischa looking at his phone, and seeing the destruction of his home. It was extremely moving.

I think it could be seen as a mix of both personally

Thank you, Connor! Glad you enjoyed it 😊 And nice to see most of those suggestions are already on the list, will add the others

YESSS OMGGG you have amazing taste!!!

Sweet! Break a leg :)