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Ridiculous Comparison: Owner's Review BMW F750 GS & Kawasaki Versys-X 300 

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I've owned 2 motorbikes since I started riding 2 years ago: a Kawasaki Versys-X 300 and a BMW F750 GS. In this video I compare the two, explain why I traded one for the other and give my review of the BMW. I also get some stuff wrong. Thank you for watching.

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@jimh2061
@jimh2061 11 месяцев назад
Im 60yo new rider and I have Versys 300x. Great little bike I've put 2k miles in 6 months. I'm looking to upgrade because I'm interested in longer touring trips on highway. Where I live people drive 70 to 80 on highway and the Versys can do it but it's buzzy and I get a slight vibration in handle bars and pegs that eventually leads to numbness. It's an absolutely great back roads bike and is most comfortable around 40 to 60. My riding skills have progressed pretty quickly and I do practice and feel more confident to handle a bigger bike. Looking at all the mid size adventure bikes.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 11 месяцев назад
There's a lot of great options. I was limited in what was available when I got the F750 in March of 2021. Overall, I'm happy with it. I have looked at some of the other offerings and can't really see a reason to trade. If you can, sit on and test ride as many as they will let you. Thank you for watching.
@allanhughes7859
@allanhughes7859 10 месяцев назад
stay with what you have trust me just stay there the rest is just bullshit !!!
@mimi1girl2dempsey3
@mimi1girl2dempsey3 2 года назад
I went down to a Versys x 300 from a life of riding all kinds of bikes. It's by far my favourite bike of all time. I installed Hyperpro progressive springs in the front and an adjustable rear shock. Good investment but if I wanted to save money, I would have just gotten the front springs, best bang for the buck. I ride 50/50 so good tires are a must. If I was to buy a second bike, I'd look for a Ninja 400 for the track near by. I think as we get older, we appreciate smaller, lighter spirited machines that still put a smile on our faces.
@florme6494
@florme6494 Год назад
Well said, I’d also add small bikes for me at least, are more engaging.
@peterray3889
@peterray3889 11 месяцев назад
All comments on the verseys x300 welcome as I am a new buyer
@patricktracy7940
@patricktracy7940 2 года назад
Great review. Appreciate your honesty. At 66 I have been riding for 52 years. I had a Versys 300 and very much enjoyed it. Traded it for a Kawasaki W800 then grew tired of the bulk (almost 500 lbs) for a daily rider. The Kawasaki dealer had no Versys 300's to trade on so I got a killer deal on a G310GS. I am having a blast on it. Perspective point here. When I started riding in 1970 people were riding across the globe on 250s and 500s. We would have stood in awe of bikes like the Versys 300 or G310GS. Take care and ride safe my friend.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thank you. I had considered the G310GS for my first bike. I may just have to talk the dealer into letting me test ride one. They seem very nice. Thanks for watching.
@mfuchs2004
@mfuchs2004 Год назад
@@MotorbikesAndNonsense imo, you should try the GS. It'll quickly show you how superior the x300 is. I tried the ~300 class in KTM, Honda, BMW before settling on the Versys. It was hands down a better bike. It easily out performed the GS on the highway once my brain adapted for the MotoGP-like revs. On dirt they were very similar, and on maintenance costs the Kawasaki was less than 50% of the BMWs "required" maintenance. It's perfectly easy to do your own maintenance and save money, and I think it's good for you as a rider to do so. That said, Kawasaki simply expects you to prove maintenance by logs and receipts. BMW has been famous for years for refusing warranty work if you didn't have their dealer perform it. Not legal imo, but they do it regardless. Not many owners will lawyer up to save a few hundred per year in maintenance charges. There are a number of YT vids on charges for BMW periodic maintenance and routine denial of warranty claims. Still, bad bikes are rare in any but Chinese and Italian brands so most owners will be fine.
@kevinheimbouch8061
@kevinheimbouch8061 2 года назад
Thanks for the comparison. I still ride the x300. Someday I will move up. It's good to know the x300 could cover all those miles.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thanks for watching. My first trip on the Versys was 1500 miles into Wyoming. The second, was 2100 miles into Colorado and Utah. It can do it and more.
@govinda102000
@govinda102000 Год назад
Love my 2020 X300. Left over at $5500 OTD. Commuter and, weekend fun. On the highway often 70 mpg, handles trails but true about hills being a smaller engine. I went 15 tooth front sprocket before I even started riding it.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
I did the sprocket upgrade, too. That made a considerable difference. Thanks for watching.
@Alastairtheduke1
@Alastairtheduke1 Год назад
I've been looking for someone to talk about the 750 as an owner.Thank you!
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC
@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC Год назад
Mode do seem to be a joke. My Africa Twins has rider modes an 99.9% of the miles on that bike have been accumulated in my custom use mode. I really wish they made these bikes available with less tech. Most of it is not needed.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
Agreed. Thank you for watching.
@GeezerWheels
@GeezerWheels Год назад
Great video! I had a very similar experience. I started riding as a mid teen, but then only ride a very few times on friends bikes, less than 30 minutes each, until my mid 60s. Bought a 15 year old Kawasaki KLR 250 (yes 250). Rode it mostly off road and Jeep trails and some single tract & got comfortable on pretty rough mountain passes. Sold that bike for a Husaberg FE390 (incredible dirt bike, but had to do upgrades to get it street legal). Kept it but bought a Versys X300 and LOVE it - still have it - great commuter and also take it on some medium Jeep roads in the mountains of SW Colorado. GREAT around town but had the itch for more power and bought a Vstrom 650XT. I might be crazy, but I'm keeping all three, Husaberg (for serious off road), Versys X300 (for light offroad and 70 mpg commuter), and the Vstrom 650XT. Ride all three, depending on my mood, route, and destination. We've now ridden about 50% of the TransAmerica Trail (wester half, Oregon to NW Arkansas) most on the Husaberg, Moab, UT to Silverton, CO on the X300. YES, this little 300 IS, INDEED, a legitimate Adventure Bike! Ridden within its design parameters, not outrunning the suspension, being patient at 10,000 feet elevation and going steep hills with a head wind, etc. the little ADV bike will do it. (Deep sand on Mitas E07s is not recommended!) For long trips, very hard to beat a properly set up 650 - 850 ADV, bike. Long trips (several days) on the Husaberg seat is brutal, but doable, esp on rough terrain. And the X300 for things in between is not a bad choice. I might be the last one I would sell if need be, but the Vstrom is too good to lose also. Suggestion to all: no matter your age, if you can physically swing it, just get on and ride. Bite the bullet, go for broke, get training if you need it, get the RIGHT TIRES for the job, pack the panniers and GO. Consider going with a friend if you're 74 years old! This guy is a great example of starting our right and progressing as you gain experience. Thanks loads!!!
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
Thanks for the insights, Geezer, and thanks for watching.
@jude.v25
@jude.v25 Год назад
I think you made a great choice. I bought a used 1200 GS that had been upgraded with almost everything I wanted, and it was cheaper than a new 750 or 800. I also agree that cruise control and heated grips are awesome. Ride safe and enjoy.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
Thanks for watching.
@mfuchs2004
@mfuchs2004 2 года назад
I have both the Versys 650LT and the X300. With your penchant for long road trips, the larger motor os a definite improvement in rideability. The Beemer is a great bike, and I think the Versys 650 stacks up very well against it for 40% less money. That said, the Beemer can easily be a lifetime bike for you. It does very well on pavement and can still handle well-groomed dirt roads without fuss. Plus both Versys and F750 models have a shockingly large aftermarket mods portfolio! Ride safe!
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thank you for watching.
@juliemcgillivray3394
@juliemcgillivray3394 2 года назад
I'm bought my first bike, the Versys x300 this year. New rider and first bike at age 60. I'm already wishing for more power, and better stability at 50 mph+. I'll give it at least another year or so. Considering Versys 650 or a Triumph 660 or 850. I'll now also take a look at your BMW 750 GS. Thanks for the video and motivation!
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
My pleasure. Thank you for watching.
@americandude3825
@americandude3825 2 года назад
I bought a versys 650 in 2015 when they changed the design to the current style. Love it. Huge gas tank. Stable. Nimble. Always felt shaky at 75 mpg tho. Not sure why. I figured the rear shock adjustment wasn’t set right for me. Other than that you couldn’t keep me off it unless it was 95+ degrees outside. Too hot for me. Absolutely bullet proof. You can find a new last year model for a nice discount. I got mine in 2017. It was brand new on the floor from 2015. They wanted 8300. They agreed to $6100 out the door !!!
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 2 года назад
Moto Guzzi v7 I know the predecessor Nevada was great because it could be repaired by anyone owning a few wrenches and screwdrivers. That is if you needed to do any repairs.
@mfuchs2004
@mfuchs2004 2 года назад
I have both the Versys 650LT and the x300. Imo, the 650 is among the best values you can get for the price. You can often find prior model year bikes for under $7k. That's a lot of bike for the money. The 650 has a lot of motor for most riders, a huge tank (typically can go 250 miles per fill), tips into corners like it's on rails, handles dirt roads like a champ with 80/20 tires, and gets better than 55 mpg with rational use of the throttle. The LT comes with decent panniers that can each hold a full face helmet. You can save nearly a thousand is you buy the non-LT model, but most dealers won't have one. The F750 is a great bike, but $14k? That's the price of 2 Versys 650s. Plus maintenance on the Beemer is more than double the cost for the Kaw.
@mfuchs2004
@mfuchs2004 2 года назад
@@americandude3825 check your wheel balance and wheel alignment, and add some preload to the shock. Any of these can give you the shakes at speed. Mine is like glass at high speeds after dialing these 3 things in. Best yet, the changes are free and only take minutes to do. Pro tip: the Harbor Freight wheel balancer works well for only about $40. Leas than a shop will charge for a single wheel. I did what you did: bought a 2018 in 2020 for $6,100 out the door. Best deal ever!
@trekOCLVone
@trekOCLVone 2 года назад
My channel is dedicated to the upgrades and mods on the Versys X300. The X300 is a great choice for a first bike or for just keeping it light. Thanks for the comparison.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@tordamsleth7460
@tordamsleth7460 3 месяца назад
I have a 2021 750GS and was told that I could use the quick shifter both up and down. Down shifting the throttle needs to be all the way down and upshifting is best with full throttle. You can also have the suspension on road and gas respons on dynamic. I am almost 78 still riding and will do so as long as it is fun. I hope you have many great trips on your bike.🙂
@gregoryhicks2463
@gregoryhicks2463 2 года назад
Great Job...many thanks 👍
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thank you and thanks for watching.
@americandude3825
@americandude3825 2 года назад
I’ve risen dirtbikes and road bikes. I had a 2015 versys 650. Loved it. Sold it because at the time I wasn’t riding enough and had gotten a new job. I should have kept it. I’m only looking at the versys x300 for soft off-roading because my local shop has a clean 2018 with 9000 miles for $4000 and it has a upgraded windshield, seat, center stand, and crash bars.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
The Versys-X 300 is a great bike. That sounds like a good deal on one. Thank you for watching.
@mfuchs2004
@mfuchs2004 2 года назад
I have both the x300 and the 650LT. That x300 is a FANTASTIC 80/20 bike, and possibly even a 50/50 with an experienced rider. At $4k it's a steal. The only "gripe" I have is the adjustment my brain had to make in coming to terms with the fact that 8800 rpm at 65 did NOT mean the clutch was slipping, or that the motor was going to explode. Heck, there's still another 4000 to hit redline, lol!
@keithquinn5624
@keithquinn5624 2 года назад
300x is way better for offroad, you just found out you don’t offroad much so the bmw is much better for strictly pavement, perfect choice for a beginer noob like yourself all the assists help too! Good choice!
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thanks for watching.
@jsprite123
@jsprite123 2 года назад
As in everything else in life, it depends. If you are just trailering your bike to do some off-roading, the Versys300 makes perfect sense. If you going to ride a bike interstate, with long stretches of highway, there are two features you'd want: cruise-control, and power.
@PeterVred
@PeterVred Год назад
For picking up your bike...the Eastbound Moto Wench is a big helper, and confidence maker. I bought a heavy Africa Twin in 2020, and by 2121 I was no longer able to pick it up (muscle weakness from Vaxx). I waited two years for Keith Products to get me a Dirt Napper, finally discovered the wench. $286 all in.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
Thanks, that's good to know.
@spydie
@spydie Год назад
great road bike... too heavy for any serious off-road work (as was my KLR 650.). You're not old yet. When you hit 72 and still want to go off-road, you'll wish you had the lighter bike (I'm glad I have it now...the KLR and the Himalayan were too heavy to pick up off-road). I've had 64 bikes in 55+ years of riding from small to very heavy and right now I'm all done with heavy bikes (except for my 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone Centenario). I'm really enjoying the new Versys right now and going to do the NMBDR next summer.
@thejourneycontinues6535
@thejourneycontinues6535 2 года назад
I currently have the x300 and a Yamaha Super Tenere 1200. Both are great bikes. Apples and oranges.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thank you for watching.
@mfuchs2004
@mfuchs2004 2 года назад
My son is interested in learning to ride. I have the Versys 650LT, and I had a factory ride on the Super Tenere. I was seriously considering giving the 650LT to my son and buying a Tenere. In the end, I kept the 650LT and bought him an X300.
@rab5564
@rab5564 2 года назад
Very good video thanks ,you have a new subscriber Rab Scottish borders
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and subscribing.
@matthatter93
@matthatter93 Год назад
What sprocket change should you make on the versys? 15 or 13 teeth?
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
I did the 15 tooth and it made a significant difference.
@Spacejunk63
@Spacejunk63 Год назад
I changed the rear sprocket 2 teeth down from the stock 42, this works well for me 40$ vs. 20$.
@hccwarriordan5475
@hccwarriordan5475 2 года назад
Difference between the Beemer and the little Kaw, In short, everything. My old KLR and I will give you a run for your money though.lol
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Yes, you would! Thanks for watching.
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 11 месяцев назад
I don't trust that crazy road automation stuff. Too much to go wrong. German over-enginerring at it's finest. I've got 2 Mercedes Benz and they're 20 & 23 years old respectively. Solid & not too complex. For cycles, I just scored an 08 V-Strom 650, immaculate garage kept @'13k miles. $3650 What sense is there in buying new, when theyres Garage Queens aplenty ?
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 11 месяцев назад
I agree, you can buy a lot of bike for cheap by buying used. Thanks for watching.
@Fogbrush
@Fogbrush Год назад
Thanks for the interesting insights. So the riding modes and cruise control are of limited value, and swapping bulbs to LED on the X300 is super easy .... so if you live in a country where high cruising speeds are impractical, the extra power of the BMW is of no value .... so save on the cash and weight and get an X300
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense Год назад
You make some good points. Thanks for watching.
@Dr.MountainND
@Dr.MountainND 2 года назад
If you're considering the Versys-X 300, watch my 4-year, 20,000km comprehensive review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qEB0XWVmTu8.html
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Thanks for watching.
@onthepegs
@onthepegs Год назад
Hello easily amused person! Versys-X owner here. I do more off-road so suspension upgraded, 21" front etc. If I upgraded I would go for longer suspension travel and lighter bike. That bike does not exist. Yet...? Oh, on the opening photo where you show the 2 bikes facing each other especially the Versys-X is packed too high up. Don't do that. Get side luggage. On the versys-x with my height 186cm (6.1ish) I get handlebar whobble when I have heavy topcase and not sitting totally in the front of the seat.
@agustinmorquecho7781
@agustinmorquecho7781 2 года назад
Is the bmw a better bike? yes, for sure. Is it better for your use? yes, most likely. But i have to disagree with you that you outgrew the versys x300. that bike is a lot more capable than the skills you show on your riding. Obviosly you did a great trade, no doubt about it, but the versys can do lots more, and can take you to the same places that your new bmw, (even to some places that i would prefer the kawaski than the 750gs) over all I agree with you except that you did not outgrew the versys and that you absolutely do not look like you are 52 years old.
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 2 года назад
Maybe "outgrew" isn't the best word to describe my switching to the BMW. I could have kept the Versys, for sure. Thank you for watching.
@ed.t.hansen6499
@ed.t.hansen6499 4 месяца назад
rediculous comparison. Should be versys 650 vs 750gs
@allanhughes7859
@allanhughes7859 10 месяцев назад
You just wait untill the Bema starts to let you down and then see how you feel ? In my humble opinion having riden for over 50 years and had a few Bemas they are very very overated and a complete rip off when it comes to parts etc So good luck and I hope you dont need it !! "luck that is"
@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@MotorbikesAndNonsense 10 месяцев назад
I recently had an issue with the battery. I found out that the batteries used by BMW aren't the highest quality. Otherwise, I've been pleased with the bike. Thanks for watching.
@allanhughes7859
@allanhughes7859 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for taking the time to reply its not just the battery trust me it is not my last issue was a fuel sender that sat in petrol for god knows how long then gave up how dangerouse is that on a 1200 G.S. they are simply not what they make themselves out to be I have a Honda V4 750 with over 80K on the clock I would ride around the world on that bike with no issues my 1200 G.S. I worry when going to the shops to get a paper those two that went up and down had a full team behind them show me one individual that has done the same on a Bema just look at itchy boots and that will tell you everything you need to know go Jap and today even an Italian stalion is better than these German piles of shit sorry about the language but I am so so dissapointed with what I have all I want to do is sell it if interested let me know The only defence is the older bikes were quite good to be fair but mine at 05 is a pile of crap Rant over just trying to let folk know so they do not waste their monies you will never ever get many negative comments because these Bema owners know here I am comming from !!but just dont what to admit to it due to the monies they have spent on crap !!! only an opinion but trust me a valid one ??@@MotorbikesAndNonsense
@karlfonner7589
@karlfonner7589 Месяц назад
Why they haven’t made a Verseys 400 is beyond me. I bought a salvaged Kawasaki Z 400 and made it a miniature adventure bike. Kept the street tires on motorcycle cause I’m more of a city boy. Who wants to go fast around a blind corner when there’s only one lane out in the woods? that’s how my friend got two compound fractures in both Shins riding into a Toyota going the opposite direction
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