I'm trans ... and i find this whole thing terribly embarrassing. Even with 4+ years of hormone therapy it was still undeniable that i had a HUGE advantage against biological women. And it wouldn't matter if i had done 40 years of hormone therapy, i would still keep that edge of size, wing-span, speed, strength, ect.. That this has gone this far is just embarrassing for trans people and is working against acceptance.
The problem is that you're the old school trans. You did what you did after reasonable reflection and intelligent discussion. This is the new era where you do it and then make childish demands of others.
Sport is about fairness, allow Lia Thomas to compete in the women's swimming is unfair. There should be a separate category created for transgender athletes for inclusion. Time for common sense and keep the politics away from the sport.
I agree fully, but when will it stop? Although I agree with transpeople having seperate categories in sports. The anti trans conserve movement will then push to remove trans people from the gendered restrooms and charging rooms, which isn't about fairness, it's about unjust hatred. Once the remove restroom and changing room rights, they'll want to remove the recognition of trans people (this means removal of trans peoples rights to transition medically, socially and legally. And that is only on the anti trans side. Many transphobic women have decided to take arms with sexist men, sexist men who will take advantage of womens rights vulnerabilities whilst these women focus on trans women. (Not trans men who are also affected by the laws these women want changed). These sexist men are already stripping rights from women as these transphobic "femenists" focus on trans women. Think roe v wade.
@Dave Hanning I've played football rugby track volleyball and more. I'm perfectly aware men are often bigger due to testosterone. That can be accounted for if sports are separated by skill
@Dave Hanning no idea how you got that out of my reply. I'm saying there are some sports like wrestling boxing even rugby etc that some players have a clear advantage by being of a certain size or strength. Those can be taken care of by assigning size or strength as a skill and separating by that for example. Instead of gender which is arbitrary
@@fulminisrecovery1264 dividing them by weight doesnt work, a 60kg biological man is way stronger than a 60 kg woman, lets divide them by strength then How do you measure it? Let’s say they are below a certain testosterone level, but a biological male that has gone through puberty and then transitioned still has some advantages like stated in the video. And what should we do with sports already divided into weight categories like boxing/mma? Should we pick another criteria just to allow transgender people to compete when they have a clear advantage? How I see it, the only way you can compete as a transgender without having a decisive advantage is if you transitioned in your early teens before puberty
Great interview with Riley Gaines. As part of the LGBTQ community and nothing against transgender individuals, I think it is an unfair race due to all the biological differences no matter how you view it. Nothing against transgender of any type, but the NCAA might need to consider creating a category where all female transgender swimmers compete against each other. This will create fair opportunities for everyone. We are living in a new world now where there are so many definitions of what individuals consider to be, and it is OK. We need more and more education, respect, and diversity inclusion should be included with fairness in everything. I wish the best for both athletes.
First off I know your not trying to be offensive but it does kind of hurt as a trans person myself because if there was a separate event for trans people that would feel like I’m being called out and not being respected for my identity. I think people are reading into it too much and should respect people for there identities instead of questioning them because that hurts. And even more so it hurts because people don’t question other customers people and critique there identity
@@tacocat2919 Hi Taco! This is not to hurt in any way any transgender identity. There are separate events for many things in life and within sports. For a sport such as swimming, when swimmers are within the age group, they are divided among age groups Boys/Girls compete - 10 and under, 11-12 and 13-14, and so on. The reality is that no matter how many hormone blockers after puberty or adulthood a person receives, there will still be some body parts and features that will not change. Among the few are lung capacity and strengths. It is a sensitive subject. It will have many different views. I am all about respect and fairness for all, but some tangible facts cannot be changed, no matter a million ways to look at them.
Or they can eliminate gender separation of many sports have everyone compete together but awards seperated in those gender categories. As an ally Not trying to segregate either but trans women ARE special here.
@@ebaquero8400 I totally understand as a swimmer and a trans person I get it but people have different body types no matter what and tellign someone they can't swim because of their gendewr identity is worng.
“You should seek counseling if you don’t feel comfortable changing in a locker room with someone who has male parts” What the fuck has society devolved into?
I know, right?!?!? 😂😆🤣 NEVER in My Wildest Dreams Did I EVER Think I'd Have To Worry About men Being Forced Upon Myself or My Daughters or Granddaughters or Great Granddaughters IN WOMEN'S SPORTS, LET ALONE WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOMS!!!!! People are forgetting the fact that maybe some of those girls in those change rooms have been sexually assaulted as children or women by men! People are not thinking about the trauma that maybe some of those girls have experienced in their past and in a lot of cases Still Are Traumatized by what happened! And NOW WE ARE BEING FORCED TO Have it/men in OUR change rooms with Us because he is CHOOSING TO IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN WHEN CLEARLY he ISN'T!!!!! THAT'S COMPLETE BULLSHITTTTT!!!!! It’s SICK & TWISTED that the government and people in authority think that this NONSENSE is OK!!!!! That they are going to protect transgender men identifying as women in WOMEN'S SPORTS and IN OUR LOCKER ROOMS, but PURPOSELY and KNOWINGLY, SCREW BIOLOGICAL WOMEN OVER and NOT PROTECT US that May Have Possibly Been Physically or Sexually Assaulted or Both in the past and DON’T WANT ANY BIOLOGICAL men in the change room with Us NO MATTER WHO OR WHAT it says it is!!!!! I MEAN SINCE PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE AVERAGE WOMEN DOESN'T WANT ANY MEN IN THE LOCKER ROOMS WITH US EITHER LET ALONE SOMEONE THAT'S ENDURED PHYSICAL OR SEXUAL ABUSE/TRAUMA!!!!! The people in charge NEED TO SERIOUSLY USE SOME COMMON SENSE BEFORE PASSING their INSENSITIVE, INHUMANE, RIDICULOUS LAWS or BILLS!!!!! COMMON COURTESY, COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!!!!
I know, right?!?!? 😂😆🤣 NEVER in My Wildest Dreams Did I EVER Think I'd Have To Worry About men Being Forced Upon Myself or My Daughters or Granddaughters or Great Granddaughters IN WOMEN'S SPORTS, LET ALONE WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOMS!!!!! People are forgetting the fact that maybe some of those girls in those change rooms have been sexually assaulted as children or women by men! People are not thinking about the trauma that maybe some of those girls have experienced in their past and in a lot of cases Still Are Traumatized by what happened! And NOW WE ARE BEING FORCED TO Have it/men in OUR change rooms with Us because he is CHOOSING TO IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN WHEN CLEARLY he ISN'T!!!!! THAT'S COMPLETE BULLSHITTTTT!!!!! It’s SICK & TWISTED that the government and people in authority think that this NONSENSE is OK!!!!! That they are going to protect transgender men identifying as women in WOMEN'S SPORTS and IN OUR LOCKER ROOMS, but PURPOSELY and KNOWINGLY, SCREW BIOLOGICAL WOMEN OVER and NOT PROTECT US that May Have Possibly Been Physically or Sexually Assaulted or Both in the past and DON’T WANT ANY BIOLOGICAL men in the change room with Us NO MATTER WHO OR WHAT it says it is!!!!! I MEAN SINCE PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE AVERAGE WOMEN DOESN'T WANT ANY MEN IN THE LOCKER ROOMS WITH US EITHER LET ALONE SOMEONE THAT'S ENDURED PHYSICAL OR SEXUAL ABUSE/TRAUMA!!!!! The people in charge NEED TO SERIOUSLY USE SOME COMMON SENSE BEFORE PASSING their INSENSITIVE, INHUMANE, RIDICULOUS LAWS or BILLS!!!!! COMMON COURTESY, COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!!!!
As a trans person, trans people who have undergone puberty before transitioning must compete in a separate category. I don't see anything discriminatory about it. It's about creating a fair environment where everyone can compete. If anything, it will bring more awareness to transgender issues and help them feel more included.
@@TheYoutubaki They do. Just not in the womens competitions The problem with allowing before puberty transition to compete is that it gives an incentive to parents and doctors to halt childrens puberty for the sake of their athletic career.
@@Olter_ oooh I get it now Yea, here's what I think: In an ideal world, we'd know the child is trans the moment they're born, and we'd know the best way to help them right away. Unfortunately, we are really far from that. The only reliable way to know if someone is trans is if the individual has undergone puberty and has identified that they are trans, with the help of a professional therapist. Having children make such drastic decisions in such a young age is very, very risky. Yes, some changes like hormone blockers are reversible, but I don't know if I can trust a child with deciding on transitioning... So I totally get it. A separate category for trans men and trans women is, I believe, the best solution
Thanks for organising this interview and thank you to Riley for giving her time to share her thoughts and feelings. I consider myself very liberal but in competitive sports, it’s very unfair to have someone compete under these circumstances, for any sport.
What a brave young woman for speaking out and standing up for what she (and many others) believe to be right and just. Her parents must be very proud of her and right to be so.
I am just flabbergasted at the level of disrespect and intimidation the NCAA put you through. (No wonder Larry Nasser got away what all he did to the women gymnasts. Common sense and thoughtful consideration was dismissed in lieu of a sensational story!) All the post puberty biological differences you pointed out clearly details the differences. Congratulations!! Stay strong Riley! Don't be silenced. Both your and Lia's achievements as athletes have totally been ignored.
There is a secondary story here-how many “Riley’s” are there who are either personally too scared to speak out due to retaliation or are being asked by their team or university not to speak on the subject. For a situation that is so objectively wrong, to have your voices be silenced seems almost the worst part of this. And where are the MEN speaking up about this??? Protect Women’s sports!
I just left my sport when they decided trans and nonbinary should compete with women. But it's very hard thing to do. You're leaving friends who feel like family. You're leaving something you dearly love. And you're leaving the thrill of the competition.
That's unbelievable, and the worst part is that nobody cares about both sides, people just want to look "nice" and companies and regulators want to keep their part of the cake
There are a multitude of reasons why Men's and Women's sports are separate. And unless transitioning can offset ALL of those reasons (it can't) then they shouldn't be allowed to compete as women. End of story. It's not being mean, it's being fair.
Being fair would be engendering the sport as a whole and basing it on times. We shouldn’t punish and outcast trans people because they are expressing who they are.
@@isabellamcdonald1217 Okay let's discuss this. Starting at square one, why do you think men's and women's sports are separate? Why don't we have everyone just compete in the same group?
@@isabellamcdonald1217 transwomen have a MASSIVE physical advantage over biological women so should not be competing directly against each other. Sporting competition is based on FAIR competition to establish who is the best, not who is the best due to developing as a man and competing against those with a whole list of disadvantages. Inclusivity of transwomen should not come at the detriment of biological women, who see their hard work squandered, scholarships lost, wins taken from them, job opportunities lost.
Thank you for having Riley Gaines on your show. I truly believe that no transgender people should be in any sport if it's not the gender you are born. It doesn't matter how many hormones you inject it will not make you a man or woman. The muscle mass for a man is much different then that of a woman and it doesn't change by use of hormones. It is wrong and they do this because they couldn't win being a man so they changed just to win nothing more! By the NCAA is doing is setting us backwards not forwards. Women fought so hard to have their own sports and rights and they are gone and Women have to fight again for their rights because of these men that are sick and confused same as the women that think they are men.. At least they aren't taking sports away from men as these men are taking sports away from young women. Even many queers or gay which ever term you prefer are speaking out against this believing that it is wrong. Thank you again for sharing! !😊
She made it very clear that she is not against transgenders competing with the females but MALE transgenders competing with the females. As she shared , there is a female to male transgender that competes with the females in the team. It is about the biological reality. And Lia Thomas is totally invited to compete as a swimmer in the sport she totally loves, but her reality is a male physiology and her team would be the male competitions. Male physiology means high testosterone levels and male internal organs anatomy
Finally someone's talking about the raw science and basic biology. I'd like you to take notice that as a man I won't be able to qualify for TRT with 10nmol / l , when we convert it to ng/dl we have a whopping 288ng/dl that's MALE RANGES . For comparison an elite female athlete could produce up to *70* ng/dl .
#2 Transwomen are not fighting for right to play sports and not fighting for right to compete. Transwomen are taking limited (spots) opportunities to play & compete from females.
Why are more women NOT speaking up? In the old days, a male trying to compete with women might as well admit he was a lame athlete - only looking to harm other athletes - mentally and choosing the least competitive. You can clearly see that he is harming her mentally. Since when is that ok?
Since the day this behavior gets enabled, roughly since 1.5 years. Media and such make this whole Trans thing so big that a trans athlete winning in a women tournament is marketed as something right, fair and wonderful. While most people know that this has nothing to do with fairness, but today you have to think about actual consequences if you speak out, like, look at Riley, she got so much backlash and people tried attacking her, just for speaking facts. Also this whole Feminism debate went completely out of control, Feminism slowly but surely transforms from enabling women to be made on par with men, to make women feel bad if they don't accept others wills and thoughts as well as holding back, this evolves backwards. In my opinion most of this media trans debate actually makes people hesitant and none accepting about trans since we only see those extremes, things got too easy, trans people from before that law changes were like completely different, now Trans feels like a hype and not like an actual mental disorder, which should not be said nowadays, while it was fully accepted a while ago...
Well formulated questions Kyle; thank you for the great interview! Thank you Riley for articulating sanity, and for enlightening us as to additional details about 'the situation' as a whole I, for one, did not know. I enjoy hearing you speak honestly, and from the heart. Thank you for spending your valuable time in this way!
So they choose to respect transgender athletes feelings, but not females feelings who actually have full right to compete in female sports that is for biological females in the first place.
I totally support lia as a trans woman but not as a swimmer. We make a lot of sacrifices for swimming, and *part* of your gender identity might be one of those sacrifice. Wear a women's suit, have your preferred name on the scorecard, but trans women need to be scored with the men. trans men on HRT also should have to see with the men. Given the complications of the situation, we should change the categories: women's and open, instead of women's and men's. Anyone can "swim up" (I mean, ledecky would probably go in the open and win just because she can) but only cisgender or female at birth people who have never been on testosterone can compete in the womens. I find it incredibly frustrating that biological men or even the effect testosterone has on your body makes such a big difference in swimming, I want to say it doesn't matter, but unfortunately the difference is massive.
How about the person that took 9th place? Reilly Tiltmann didn’t have the opportunity to compete in the A finals because the ncaa allowed this to happen.
Riley Gains is incredible. I wish her nothing but the best. It takes tremendous courage to go up against this madness. Utmost respect Riley! Best always. New York City.
I find it funny when people call Lia Thomas the first openly trans swimmer at this level, as if people are so stupid they were letting trans swimmers into these events beforehand. We can all see glaringly when a a athelete was born a man, and is competing in a women's event, as evolution or god for sensible reasons, made us able to tell
Absolutely disgusting and disgraceful what humans have turned into? From simple men and women to gender Bla Bla. I absolutely agree with matt, iam an early years teacher and at the moment my son loves elsa Anna tiaras and wants to wear my jewellery but that doesn't mean he wants to change his gender. Kids go through these phases, I went and every single child go through it accept some don't. I don't understand what's there to even debate on it 😮
Poor girls... I would have never made it in this generation growing up there is no Way I would ever Accept getting undressed or have them undress in front of a transgender women that has a penis.. every biological woman has an instinctive fear built in to be aware of undressing in front of an opposing sex. It's not to be mean or hurtful to anyone it's to to keep yourself safe.. we teach our kids from a young age that it's not right for little girls and little boys to take a bath or undress in front of each other... so now it's wrong for a young woman to feel uncomfortable to get undressed or to have some one undress in front of them with a penis... and let's not forget how many men are saying I'm a woman just so they can be around naked Girls and hurt them... it's not working have separate areas for transgender woman, and it's ridiculous when I read that it's hurtful to say that like I'm calling someone out sorry don't understand I have a vagina I'm called out to stay in the woman bathroom men in a man's bathroom if you feel like a woman but have a penis you should have a safe space as well... every one should feel safe and comfortable I don't understand how having a separate room for transgender women could make a transgender woman feel uncomfortable being around the same gender
Women brought this on themselves. Did Riley protest when women were getting on boys teams J.V. football and wrestling? A boy cannot win such a wrestling match against a girl, if he wins he was supposed to win, and if he loses he will be forever belittled for losing to a girl. Women have no place competing against men in athletes, and men have absolutely no place competing against women.
Thanks for this video Kyle! I really enjoyed how you both had a civil and respectful conversation on such a sensitive topic. Although it is a touchy subject, it needs to be addressed! This video was so important and we need more like it.
It is very discouraging that UPenn and the Ivy League slandered as a transphobe or homophobe any woman who questioned the specifics of the rules that the NCAA came up with to approve competing in the women's category, like 10 mmols of testosterone or 2 years or hormone therapy. They should simply engage in debate about the pros and cons of different thresholds to make the thresholds fairer over time. Swimming gold medalist and women's rights attorney Nancy Hogshead-Makar wrote a great article about the reason for a separate women's category in the first place and about how it seems wrong to allow Thomas to enter that separate women's category when top men are 11% faster than top women in most events and Thomas only became 2% slower after 2 years of hormone therapy to lower testosterone. One other observation is that in the Olympic year of 2021, there were 300 men who swam faster than the most dominant woman swam in one of her best events, according to the FINA website's list of top times for the year. If even 1 percent of those 300 men decide to transition, and it makes them only a couple percent slower like Hogshead-Makar says it did for Thomas, then the chance for born women to hold world records may go away. One can support LGBTQ rights strongly and still question the thresholds to compete in this women's category. It is tragic that UPenn and the Ivy League are aggressively shaming women for simply asking these questions. www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/nancy-hogshead-makar-explains-problems-with-lia-thomas-situation/
This being done in the vein of "preventing trans suicides." That's emotional blackmail. That's the same as a male partner telling his girlfriend she needs to cover up because it makes him upset other men look at her. Excuse me?! Why am I responsible for someone else's emotional fragility.
It's starting in swimming pools in Britain. A Woman asked not to come back after she complained about a man exposing himself in the women's changing room.
In addition to interviewing someone close to the Lia Thomas situation such as Riley Gaines, I think it'd be important to hear directly from a trans athlete. Perhaps consider doing an interview with a trans athlete because their perspective absolutely deserves the same recognition. I would recommend reaching out to trans swimmer Schuyler Bailar, nonbinary diver Griffin Maxwell Brooks, or trans triathlete Chris Mosier.
Caitlin Jenner is an Olympic champion athlete, and she says trans women should NOT be able to compete in women's sports due to the male body advantages they retain even after transition. Need anything else?
Everyone in the comment that is screaming trans rights trans rights. WELL WHAT ABOUT WOMENS RIGHTS AND MENS RIGHTS!! You know, the ones who DID NOT ask nor make anyone transition. We are being insensitive to trans people because we are standing up for women’s and men’s rights? Well you are being insensitive for standing up for trans rights then!! If it’s this big of a deal then there should be a whole SEPARATE category just for trans people. This is not to not include trans people, but quite the opposite. This is to make it 100% fair for EVERYONE!! So while you’re crying like a baby, screaming “we have rights”, these two separate categories were created long before any trans person tried to compete in these world sports events. So no, no one is discriminating. It only makes sense to make a separate category to make it fair. A trans women category and trans men category.
that fella is not a woman, not a biological woman, just cuz he grew his hair long, that makes him a hippie, or gay, or whatever....even if, and it sounds like he has not yet chopped his meat and potatoes off, he still will always have that unfair advantage...
I can't stand that all of these officials say they are "condemning transphobia" when LITERALLY NO ONE IS CONDEMNING TRANS PEOPLE!!!! I have nothing against trans people...I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHEATING
Everyone always says that there wouldn’t be enough people to make an open category, which kind of make sense for team sports, but swimming is an individual sport. Who cares if there’s 1-2 people in an event, they could totally still do it. How much time would that actually take up? Swimming events are timed, like that’s the whole thing. They could compete against their past times or other people’s times.
@@TheRisky9 yeah that’s true I recently learned that the International Olympic Committee is working on rule changes for each sport that will give guidelines for accommodating trans athletes. Once those are announced, surely the professional athletics associations and the NCAA on down will implement those same changes. I’m glad that they’re actually acknowledging the issue and doing something about it, it does take time though.
Very interesting interview Kyle! I lived Riley, she is so well spoken and made really interesting points. It seems like the media and NCAA already have one narrative that they want to stick to and and not showing the full picture
There should be a Transgender group and in that group the female to male would still be at a disadvantage against the male to female competitors due to the physical characteristics, lungs, heart, size etc. It would be very interesting indeed.
I support transgender people, and while some of the things said on this topic are unnecessary, i agree. Sports should be fair and there really is a biological difference, why not change the names from men’s swim and women’s, to other names that mean that you don’t have to be a man or a woman to fit in the categories?
I think she should sue the organization and let dicters get up and testify how unfair it is to make women compete with men, I think this quack is a cheat who could not win against men so he decided to go beat the girls reminds me of a 4 yr old bully
Blame the parents, If he's got a bone to pick with anyone. The rest of us werent in the room. My MALE (YX) lung capacity my senior year at about 5' 10" was measured at 5.0 liters. What is Riley's? What is Will's?
So, just some thoughts after watching the interview: Firstly, I think it's important when discussing lgbtq topics to use respectful vocabulary. I think misgendering Lia Thomas and using the word transgender as a noun instead of an adjective undermines any valid concerns one could have on topics such as trans swimmers' inclusion in higher level sports. It gives the sense of a lack of proper understanding or compassion when deliberating on such a complex and sensitive topic. Secondly, I feel badly for Riley Gaines because she went into this meet believing Lia Thomas was out of her league. Seeing as they tied in an event where Gaines was seeded much lower going into the final, I would have hoped she could now recognize that (even if she feels Lia had some sort of advantage) that it didn't mean Lia was faster than the girls competing there, including Riley. I also feel badly for Lia Thomas because external forces have turned many in the swimming world against her personally. Denying her credentials as an athlete while competing on the men's team or the women's team at UPenn would be a fool's errand, and yet her accomplishments in both fields have been tarnished to promote a dubious narrative surrounding transgender women athletes. And lastly, there have been several cases of cisgender women failing to meet the testosterone level requirement for women's sports internationally due to their naturally high testosterone levels, so the point made that trans women are somehow competing at testosterone levels far above that of cis elite women is erroneous. The biology of gender is complicated, and I would advise anyone citing the science around gender to really make a good effort to understand the facts behind it before leveraging it in debates of this magnitude. I hope Riley can eventually come to see that this experience in no way affected her magnificent swimming career. In fact, since they tied, Riley would have finished 5th in the event even if Lia wasn't allowed to swim it, which is the tragic irony of it all.
You clearly don't understand the difference between sex and gender, as evidenced by your "The biology of gender is complicated" statement. There is NO biology of gender, as gender is merely a social construct. SEX is what has biology. In sports, bodies compete against bodies. It is not a competition of identities against identities.
@Mandala30...Very well-spoken, although I admit to being in the camp that believes Lia has a biologically unfair advantage swimming against biological females. That being said, Riley's concern was not her own finish, but with the 9th and 17th place girls who failed to even qualify because Lia Thomas bumped them out of the top eight spots in each category she - as a biological male, remember- got placed in. JMHO.
She should have competed in her biological gender then to avoid all this chaos but NOo.., SHe was getting 200 or 400 the place there so to feel better about herself she played in women's team.. So we should only consider Lea's feelings and invalidate all women who feels injustice that they are competing against a biological male who obviously has more lung capacity, RBC count, larger heart and more body mass..?
Best to stop all sports so this silly pecking order stops completely. No more costly Olympics and national events etc. Schools can do Physical Education but not for a winner and loser pecking order.
@@notamericandoe7679 Because some people are close-minded and petty. They don't understand why they should have to accommodate for someone else's wants when it goes outside of their own comfort zone and against what they've grown up knowing. Some close-minded people don't see the point in learning and growing beyond what they believe they're currently capable of, so they choose to sit and judge others who can. I recommend letting them dig their own grave.
@Uyu_Ana No because have gender dysphoria is a mental illness, full stop. If you want to cut off or severely mutilate any other parts of your body, you are considered mentally ill - how is this different? Not all of us want to support delusion and you can't make us do that. Not everyone automatically deserves respect, get over it
If you want to be an elite athlete then they need to play with and against their biological gender in my opinion. And if they have a problem with it then don't play. Why are we always so soft on these topics so afraid to offend people
Just a quick question: How would people react to a transgender person competing in “men’s” sports? Would their real or perceived disadvantages/advantages be an issue of concern? And if so, in what way? And with whom should they compete?
Also as a part of the LGB community, (gay guy) I think it is really unfair that Lia was allowed to compete in the womens swim team. She is a big strappin' 'girl' and had a big advantage over the other team members. I wish I had her muscles! Lets start a trans swim team
I don't think there is anyone who can make a legitimate argument for why she should be allowed in women's sports it is absolutely crazy to have a previous man be faster than many female Olympians it is just nuts
I am totally, totally not into sports. I could care less about who wins. But even I am indignant about how unfair this is to women. Now, the only sports women will be able to participate in fairly will be figure skating and gymnastics.
It always some time but the downside to requesting equality will always show itself. There is a beauty in our biological differences. You can't do the things that I can do. I can't do some of the things that you can do. But that's what makes the partnership so special
I can see both sides of this debate and while there were some good points made and the tone was generally respectful, there were some uncomfortable moments that reflect a lack of education on this topic. I suggest you carefully consider if and how you decide to devote more of your channel to this topic. Riley and you both referred to transgender people as “a transgender” or “transgenders” which is not correct used as a noun. You asking Riley to talk about the “appearance”, “size comparison”, and “anatomy” of Lia when standing next to her was a bit strange; Lia isn’t a zoo animal.
As an artist, there are very different way you portray muscles in women and men. Lia has the man type, and I'm sorry to say but it's relevant in sport. IT JUST IS. Despite how it makes people feel. I feel like Lia should be able to live her life to the fullest as a woman. Do I think she should be allowed to compete in women sport? Sorry but no.
~ don't show up for meets with the bio-males in them...boycott the meet and send a message. let them swim with their own fish. This isn't that difficult just give the trans their own division.
Isn't the issue with Isac that they are on male hormones? Does that give an advantage? Just wondering. They should create a Trans male, and Trans female athletes, not an open category.
Um… no. There are testosterone regulations that the NCAA made. If you watched the video or educated yourself, you would know. Lia Thomas isn’t a man. Every single notable medical organisation agrees that the best way to treat gender dysphoria is to provide gender reaffirming care. She is a woman, cry about it.
@Alena nela you are absolutely wrong. Lia stood towering over all the female athletes. Lia Thomas is not a woman, Lia Thomas is a trans women. Thomas has no right to women's sports or awards. And FINA just confirmed they will not allow transgendered athletes compete outside their biological sex in all elite competitions worldwide. Go cry about it boo.
I'm all for live and let live. Your transgender fine,I don't want to compete against you. Because no matter how much you change your outward appearance to more resemble mine, it does not change the rest of your body, muscle mass or density, lung and heart size or capacity, bone strength ect which remain that of a male. It is not equal or fair, title 9 gives women a place to compete against each other without males competing against us. Also let me point out male sports isn't having an issue with trans men competing because no matter how many hormones or surguries they get they won't be setting records in a male event.
This girl trained all her life to complete against a man. Okay 👍 if she agrees with this she,ll keep racing, if she refuses to race, well then I'll see . They can tell her what to say in a interview, they can't make her race.
fina and the ncaa need to simply use common sense..understand the argument..no one is saying they cant play in sports..the women are just asking for fairness..what is it that the transgender cant seem to wrap their heads around..whats sad that as competetors,they are willing to play a game where they know,even if they are not saying it,that they have an advantage over women in sports.but they play anyways..you would think they would be considerate instead of just being selfish...completley unfair to women..
