Ring doorbell without subscription. Plus Alternatives. 

We ended up exchanging this model for the slimmer version ru-vid.comUgkx0jZ_lGlDVJhDnmagEU8gn47cmfPNlLQU because it was too wide for the only door trim area that made sense to mount it on. However, we should have just noted the dimensions prior to purchasing. Otherwise, we love the doorbell. It works perfectly, and the video is very clear, even at night.

I used a similar setup (pizeroW + battery bank) to take a photo of the sky every 30 seconds, then windows movie maker to stitch them together into a cool timelaps of the clouds rolling by. The 5000mAh battery bank lasted around 14hrs. Recently picked up a 10000mAh battery bank with a solar panel from B&M for £12.

It's something I've noticed about products like this. It's not the product itself that people don't like, it's the company that runs these products

Ring sucks . A lot of videos say there money hungry .glad I saw this video. Thanks for the video. I’ll just get a professional security company and pay them .

"The Cloud" there's that word again! Thank you for enduring this and sharing the truth.

Blink, if available where you are, can be used without subscription. Some features are missing, and you have to store locally, but it works good for me.

Really helpful, many thanks. Liked and subbed. I’d pretty much settled on the Eufy but the additional Pi cams look like a great idea too. 👍

As much as there's a lot to be said for prudent spending, there's a lot to be said for convenience packaged up in something you don't have to build and fix and upgrade and fix again. Also, the irony of the second line of the video description is delicious 😄

800x600 at 10 fps -- you could use an esp32-cam and promote the raspberry pi to run the motioneye (i'm running 4 cameras at 1 fps 720p with motion detect and video recording -- and the piz2w is pretty much at its limit)

I watched a news video only yesterday where it was revealed that Amazon had been giving authorities access to the videos taken by Ring devices without the owners knowledge or permission. For me, this is definitely not ok.

As a pro cctv, intruder, smart automation installer, I trialled a number of doorbells to see if it was viable installer business, EZVIZ and Ring were rejected after significant testing. But after testing Eufy I have installed a few of these with cabled DC supply and WiFi with no customer callbacks. Viable? well you are up against people installing themselves for free (who by the way think they know what they are doing!), I decided to stay away from it. But I can recommend Eufy.

Thanks for the video! I use motioneye os. I very appreciate a video explaining the way to save the videos in mi PC, or NAS.

Thanks for all the great info!!

It’s up to $40 a year here in the US. If I could find a decent doorbell camera that uses a memory card I rather go that way myself but everything I looked at available on Amazon feedback told me people weren’t happy with them.

Not sure if you've looked into Home Assistant. I have been lately. Runs on the pi, so can be low power if it's left powered on 24hr daily. Just searching up "video doorbell home assistant" led me to some links of people who have apparently integrated the ring doorbell into home assistant with their videos being stored locally. I haven't done these things, but it's a project I'm considering down the road and thought I'd mention it. I don't think I"ll use the ring brand, maybe some doorbell that integrates more easily, but still researching. And what I've found has my interest piqued.

Great video. Wish motioneyeos had voice capabilities. Hope to see your follow-up video. I have it on my pi 2W and 2 cameras hooked up and a 3rd added ip cameras

I was debating between ring and blink, after watching your video I went straight for Blink cameras and door bell! they have no subcription and its an amazon product, if you buy the blink sink module I like how you can safe all the video and transfer to your computer if you wish or else set it as auto delete after 30 days.. so far they have done the Job and the quality is Not perfect but Good to catch anyone trying to get in your house...

You can return the ring as not fit for purpose probably. The return window is just for no reason returns I think. You might need to call them

motionos seems to be kind of abandoned project (last update October 2020), audio is missing as well - what a pity - it was full of potential you can mount the NAS drive and store directly there - without downloading manually

Same predicament with Ring, I’ve been looking at getting it to use my (paid for) web space, guessing it would simply be some kind of IP address and username - but that’s all hidden away within the Ring App :-( I’m sure someone will hack these things now the annual subscription has gone up.

A few comments: 1) I bought a Ring Doorbell 2 years or bit more ago. The subscription wasn't mentioned in the purchase blurb. Amazon apologized 2) I phoned Ring prepared to join just after 30days period. Small thing - as now, no option to pay by PayPal: only by debit/cr card. NOT very secure option online 3) Guy I spoke to said "I can see your videos here ... all is working well" .. that didn't engender confidence in security - that comment told they could see all my movements going fwd ! What if I'm away on holiday ? After all, under regn, they have my address 4) after feeling insecurity & not subscribing, the live doorbell function seemed to 'slow down' & phone notifications of live action occurred too late to talk properly with anyone at the door ... I put the Doorbell (nice quality itself) back in the box !!

That's the spirit of DIY and right to repair manifesto: whenever a company (be it small or giant) want to f'k with you with abusive policies/fees/contracts, Raspberry Pi comes to the rescue!

Do they make one with the option to open a door lock?

I would second the comment about Blink. It’s another Amazon co but the camera quality was better, the device isn’t a huge brick, and with the hub it stores videos no charge.

i’m thinking that packet capture analysis might be a way to access the videos (Winpcap) or a linux server with something monitoring all network traffic , and then perhaps redirect DNS to your own host customer built ring server emulator, etc etc

I have the same one ring . I drilled a hole through my door and have a cable permanently attached using a gland. I can also use a large powerbank and switch it on to charge if I wish. Have you grown the tree from a fir cone, small shrub and how long did it take to get this high and do you festoon it with lights at Xmas. I'm still waiting for more cat videos, maybe involving the doorbell.

Thanks for the info. Not gonna buy Ring door bell as I amlooking for a video door bell.

A much simpler solution I got a cheap €35 IP camera fit it at the front door it records 24/7 stores 4 weeks worth of footage or set it to motion detection and can be played back on your phone you can answer your doorbell as normal or use the camera it has two way audio and if you need to look back at any alerts in the past simply go back to the time the alert came in on the doorbell and look at the recording on the camera works perfect for me

Hi , update on Ring Protect , it is now increasing price to £49.99 in two yers the price as doubled. would be very interested in using a Pi 5 with ring doorbell for storage if you up for doing another video I assume newer software may be available , thanks really enjoy your channel

Bin day is on my Magic Mirror. Just a hint for a topic..

They should provide the equipment if they're going to charge you to use it.

You'd like to think Amazon would make the ring subscription part of the prime service - as it helps them to deliver all that Amazon crap much more easily.... Saying that - My last Amazon delivery of a couple of Iiyama monitors were delivered on time by DX couriers, only for some trigger happy DPD guy come and take them along with a collection of other DPD parcels that were nearby! That was a fortnight ago - DPD seem to be struggling to locate and return them.

If you contact Amazon, even if you are a day late they will let you return it, especially if you received certain pricing promises and then it changed.

Eufy is a trusted brand.

The subscription fee will go up from 11th March to £49.99/year

It also annoyed me that I have to call to cancel my subscription and can not do it online or through the app.

£25 a year? says 50 or 80 for me, if your parcel goes missing can you just sub for 1 month and get the footage off it that way?

Yesterday we found out that Ring was giving the police copies of video from the doorbell without your permission. No ring for me! Watch this video below to get info on stolen video! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2tPX-Ov9gi8.html

I strongly recommend RPi-Cam-Web-Interface over MotionPi. The performance is so much better (30fps @ 1080p) and has all the same features.

i heard about ring working with police giving them footage without the users consent to aid them thats sp00ky af

Interesting. Always use the phrase 'formal complaint' as it starts the legal process in the UK and trading standards would probably hold them to the price they offered you. This was the company's fault. Its a shame CS will only ever parrot the lies they've been told by superiors, it doesnt mean they're right tho. Just been through all this with inMusic recently and got a full refund for some software I bought about 6 years ago.

From March it’s 4.99 per month for Basic Plan ….

And do you know what bell you can ring? The one next to the subscribe button!!

You can do screen recording.

you can still return to amazon

WHERE is that data stored? If on Ring server then Ring owns that data.

i am pretty sure that in terms of your legal consumer rights, you already have more than enough evidence to file a chargeback with your bank or card company. based on breach of contract / terms of sale and failure to give proper notice. and if after that amazon gives you any stick for it you can email their cis customer accounts department after the fact. i think you should do this based on principle and to stand up for customer rights. of course your other 2 options would be to sell it on ebay. or to try and have it jailbroken, but its all proprietary soc and hardware / cpu. so that simply is not going to work. so more ethically speaking better to just file the chargeback i would say. (rather than lumber the same set of problems onto another consumer)

I'm looking for a cheaper alternative as the subscription has gone up from £25 to £50 over 4 years

You will burn through the battery in no time with a Ring doorbell permanently recording. I was disgusted with the £10 hike from Ring for stuff I'm not even slightly interested with and bought the Eufy Duo you were looking at. The plus side to the Eufy is the picture quality is excellent, but notification isn't as quick as Ring's in my experience but regardless I'm not going back to them . Eufy do deals regularly so it's worth checking their website often. You should have spoken to Amazon's customer service and told them that you were unhappy that they have put the prices up (remember Ring is owned by Amazon) 9/10 they would have allowed you to return the order.

Thx for your video. I will never buy this nonsens, those poor service is a shame.

i love your stuff, but please note - this ring device WILL send your video surveillance to the police, if the DEVICE deems it necessary. Subscription or not. don't believe the hype.

Just complain to Amazon and explain its not as advertised - they will arrange return

I wonder if there is a way to connect the ring doorbell/cam to the MotionEyeOS... maybe there is a firmware you can flash onto it that allows you to use their hardware (that you have already purchased) but on YOUR TERMS... I know this is popular to do with WiFi Routers... there was only one 'OS' back when I learn about this well over a decade ago, and now there are MANY router 'OS' choices you can flash your router's firmware to, so I would seriously think people have already done this to the Ring hardware, which is decent if you ignore the AWFUL night vision ghosting and artifacts that cause SOOOO MANY people to claim they are getting footage of ghosts... (NO JOKE!!! LMAO! I am subbed to A LOT of 'top5 ghost videos' channels and there are SO MANY videos of Ring night vision of someone that starts off looking totally normal but then the walk through a dark patch in the video and their dark clothing just 'disappears' when they walk out of that dark patch and then somehow the rest of their body sometimes starts to just disappear until all that's left is their dog and it's leash floating up in the air being held by an invisible person LMAO!!! - and people have this happen ALL THE TIME - and they STILL BELIEVE IT'S ALL JUST GHOSTS!!!!! LOL) Anyway... where was I? lol - Yea, it might be worth looking into. I am NOT a fan of all these 'products as a service' that charge you every single month just to user it. Kinda like how BMW will now charge you every month just to enable the HEATED SEATS that are ALREADY INSTALLED. Like it's already installed and the hardware is there in your car, so why do you have to pay BMW just to turn it on? It's getting out of control. I can understand Ring charging you because you're savin g YOUR data to THEIR SERVERS and that DOES cost money. But this has led to lower end companies with video doorbells and security systems that DO NOT WORK AT ALL if your internet goes out!! WHAT KIND OF SECURITY IS THAT?!?!?!? It used to be that burghers would have to snip your telephone line and your house alarm would stop working, but then the companies wised up and would call you asking for a 'password' that if you didn't know it they would send the cops out... But now if your internet goes out how can they call people that have VoIP? OR someone (like me) that gets TERRIBLE Cell signal at my house so I have to use WiFi calling... so the security company wouldn't be able to call me either..... And this REALLY hit home to A LOT of people when a 'paranormal video' had gone viral in the 'ghost video' community when a woman was home alone when her internet was out, and their was a strange shape of a shadow coming through the small frosted window next to her door inside of the door frame (meaning some ONE or some THING was standing at her front door) but wasn't knocking or even moving at all - just STANDING THERE. And because her internet was down she couldn't open her phone and look at the security camera feed to see who or what was standing at her front door! And what made this 'paranormal' in nature was that both of her dog, which she says are normally very jumpy and loud to anyone approaching the front porch or cars in the driveway, were both just standing still staring at this shadow in that frosted glass window next to the door. So she's filming all this on her phone, whispering to us that the cameras weren't working cause the internet is down, and she's terrified because the dogs aren't barking and she's home alone, etc.... and she stops talking and you hear her trembling with fear as we hear her breathing and we can see the dogs are very tense when SUDDENLY THE SHADOW ON THE GLASS MOVES AWAY AND BOTH HER AND THE DOGS ALL JUMP AT THE SAME TIME!!! But the dogs don't bark, and she has to try very hard to refrain from screaming out loud, but they all kept it together and soon after the video ends. So it was quite a tense video that wasn't technically paranormal but it did manage to convey that tension very well. And the first person to ever show this video started narrating again and was talking about how this could have all been avoided if those dang cameras worked without needed an internet connect just to look and see who (or what) was standing on the other side of that door..... And SO MANY of the the comments on that video were about how awful technology companies have become by charging these monthly fees to access the hardware you already have. And so I think this perfectly demonstrates the NEED for people to- take FULL CONTROL over their OWN, OWNED SYSTEMS. --- Sorry for the yapping, but I feel like this ring company was started with GREAT INTENTIONS, but now that AMAZON OWNS IT, not only are THEY trying to gain FULL CONTROL of YOUR security, but THEY ABSOLUTELY DO HAND THIS POWER DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE WHETHER YOU WANT THEM TO OR NOT!!! Remember their 'MESH NETWORK' they created that you had to SIGN YET ANOTHER USER AGREEMENT a few months ago??? (if you're a Ring customer) - Some of us may even know about this WITHOUT BEING THEIR CUSTOMER TOO.... Well that connected ALL THE RING DEVICES TOGETHER (meaning all the people IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD are connected TOGETHER and if they lose internet, you gave them permission to CONNECT TO YOU, THROUGH YOUR RING SO THEY CAN USE YOUR INTERNET... yea, that's part of what you HAD TO say 'yes' to..... WHAT ELSE DID YOU SAY YES TO??? Well from what I understand (I'm not 100% on the details, but this is what I could gather) They have given LAW ENFORCEMENT PERMISSION TO USE YOUR CAMERA FOR THEIR NEEDS... So if they feel like your neighbor 'needs' to be spied on, they WILL JUST USE YOUR CAMERA TO DO IT.... WHETHER YOU WANT THEM TO OR NOT... YOU ALREADY AGREED TO LET THEM...AND THEY DO NOT HAVE TO TELL YOU!!!! EVER!!!! Okay, now that I have caused you MORE FEAR THAN ANY GHOST VIDEO EVER COULD... time to go! LOL!!! :D Have a great week! ... Oh and this applies to the USA/// I have no clue about the rest of the world.... but it sounds like that is their goal....

The subscription is £8 per month now! They keep putting it up.😢

resell the ring, the eufy works fine, price is absurd mine was around 60 us. I chose the wired version, it does have very specific requirements for power meaning you may have to up the transformer on you doorbell, 20 US. Eufy also has sub option with features behind pay wall. None are perfect all seem overpriced, we are talking about a very low end phone camera, wifi, and a motion dectector. I delt with google customer service on a nest that was defective, NEVER again.

Ring quality and resolution is too low. It does not record all the time so you miss many events as well.

Take the xmas tree to the skip.

There is a uk phone number

It's now gone up to £49 a year rip off

It's now going up to 49.99 this year 11th march unbelievable as I have front and back door 😢 greedy cretins

Now I realize after paying for years, their subscription sucks. He paid for them to store your videos in a cloud that you can only retrieve one by one. Most of the time the downloads are corrupted anyway, and be damn sure you change your default settings, as soon as you set your device up or your videos will not record enough, and they won’t be Stewart long enough they will be purged sooner than your subscription is paying for total sham!!!! excellent hardware, horrible human resource level execution, totally backhanded every step of the way

just be aware that eufy is from China

you will not have the option, to be served

now is 35 pounds..

Is not a good product you are to limited vs other door bells you don't need a subscriptions and you ouwn your recording I bought one I regret, will buy from wyze

Why is no one so outraged by the fact that ring doorbells make you PAY a SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE to be able to actually save and use videos you yourself record, using the $300 product you purchased....

If it makes you feel any better, your Ring is still recording 24/7 like the day you installed it. The only difference is now only amazon and whoever is willing to pay for your video has access to it. What is mind-blowing and pathetic is how someone with an alleged "tech channel" thinks buying a Ring is a genius idea. I'll bet you have an alexa in every room too....

Blah blah blah, get to the point

I think without subscription the Ring is shit.