While it's a tangent, I just _love_ the hypocrisy with Adar. The showrunners are _clearly_ super-duper progressives (see the casting, see the many strong women in comparison to the lack of strong men, etc). And when someone (Adar) tells the protagonist to essentially not deadname them and that they call themselves Uruk... What does our hero do? Even when asked not to do so multiple times? :D
Not only did Adar look the most elvish with his high cheekbones and long hair but he showed the most compassion for his orc underlings even referring to him as his children. Meanwhile, Galadriel led a bunch of ill-trained elves on a dangerous expedition and didn't give a damn when one of her men collapsed in the snow and had the audacity to feel betrayed when her men mutinied against her.
@@Nopeasaurus Yup. These people, to coin a phrase, are patently evil. Their 'heroes' are literal villains, which are self inserts for themselves. Their villains end up being heroes in a way, as they are opposing the evil of the heroine. We can just say heroine, because, come on, they won't write a main character that's a man haha.
Bronwyn in episode 5: "This tower will no longer be a reminder of our frailty, but a symbol of our strength". Yet in episode 6, it's revealed that not only their plan for the tower is to collapse it, it's also shown that this can be achieved by one single arrow. Such great writing, an absolute masterpiece this.
because the writters decided that a great war strategy was to abandon a fortified building, destroy and then move to a small town made mostly of wood and select fire as the main weapon, just genius
Another reason why the ride of the Rohirim was believable, while the attack of the Numenorians wasn´t, is the fact that Theoden had a pretty clear picture of the timeframe. He knew when the attack on Gondor began, and he knew how long it would take the Rohirim to arrive there. The only thing he had to estimate was how long the city could hold out.
So.. Sauron created an evil mcguffin broken sword that needs blood to restore itself, just to activate an overcomplicated dam-mechanism that required an even more overcomplicated tunnel/trench network in order to work, kinda hoping that maybe someone, sometime in the future, would totally build it unnoticed from everyone else. What a mastermind.
@@doltBmB they thought they did something smart by having a mysterious object work in mysterious and elaborate ways. But never thought about how much sense it made in-world. For the viewer, it kind of made sense until you think about it deeper. It's a hidden mechanism to help the evil spread, a masterplan. But for Sauron it makes 0 sense to do it this way + Adar and Sauron are not allies, yet Adar was instrumental to Saurons plan??
@@gameplaytv1374 Yea, the "Mark of Sauron" on Finrod' body is a mysterious symbol that drives the plot, until a few episodes later when you find out what it means, you can't help but wonder why it would be on Finrod's body. Their earlier use of it suddenly makes no sense. "It's not what I thought it was." The mysterious hilt McGuffin with the same symbol on it drives the plot and allows Adar to complete his goals, but then you think about it, Sauron (presumably, it's his symbol) had to have built a dam. Then made a bloodsword-key to open the dam. (as oppose to... a lever?) Wh...Why? Where was this ingenuity when Saruman built a dam at Isengard? Imagine the Ents trying to break the dam and not having the right bloodsword-key. Or realizing it needed blood that Ents just couldn't supply. Oh Treebeard would have looked so silly! Or wait I guess dams can be broken without bloodsword-keys and the whole idea is just stupid.
Seriously, what deal with the Devil did these morons hash out to go from nowhere to getting a billion dollars behind your first major project? And who green lights a billion for hacks? Someone, somewhere, someone presumably an experienced professional adult with responsibility for the outcome said "Yea, go ahead with those guys." /boggle
From watching this, I just notice that Arondir (is that the elven archer's name?) wears a thumb ring during the battle (at least in the aftermath scenes). Specifically, a thumb ring designed to use with a thumb draw style of shooting (like Mongolian archers). Yet, he always uses what looks like a native American three finger draw meant for very short bows. So, it seems the creators have done SOME research into archery, but have NOT applied their findings in a consistent manner. Sorry, I just wanted to come off as smart and informed for once since archery is something I actually know a LITTLE about.
Bruh... I appreciate your knowledge and attention to detail, but really? The new-minorians are wearing marble scale armor, 3 boats are fielding 20 kids trained last week to go to war, and think cavalry can clothesline infantry with a chain. Putting aside tripping a horse with stick by touching its legs... And, oh yea, a PYROCLASTIC FLOW TO THE FACE!!!! If they got a detail like the one you explained correct, I would give them a partially chewed, heavily licked gold star at this point....
@@jsveterans6949 Not to mention building a watch tower and fort below an easily climbable bluff within arrow range. A fort that had been garrisoned since the end of the first age, but which the squaddies of the garrison had never repaired and repainted to improve their defence, accomodation and out of the boredom of garrison duty.
Nice to know they at least researched *something* ... because it's clear that they know fuckall about most things, especially sailing and basic seamanship (which really isn't good if your show is so abundant in sailing scenes and cheesy dialogues about ships). The scene on the raft where Morfydd Clark is cluelessly tugging on a rope and then getting visibly irritated, because she clearly doesn't have the slightest idea what to do with it, and finally wraps it around her own hand because apparently she has too many fingers, annoyed me so hard I wanted to burst into expletives.
Also, when they introduced Halbrand as “King”, why didn’t any of the villager’s speak up and say “I didn't know we 'ad a king! I thought we were autonomous collective.?” ****Spoilers: That becomes really important in Episode 8,
Nah, it's ok. I'm pretty sure Mighty Morfydd, Power Elf tossed a sword to him at some point, and she was quite damp when they first met, so that kinda fulfills the "moistened bint lobs a scimitar at you" perquisite for kingship.
@@Nopeasaurus considering that the 'Southlands' is several tiny villages in the middle of nowhere, I seriously doubt that they would have any sort of formal government :) I mean these Southlands are even less organized/sophisticated than...Bree-land, :) tiny small population, villages with few huts that's about it...seriously I would have preferred to see a story about a Haradrim kingdom, or horse desert tribes or Mumakil riders (they would have their stupid diversity agenda as well, in fact they should have put all emphasis on the existing lore for that aspect, Ismael Cruz Cordova should have played a young Haradrim warrior, Cynthia Addai his girlfriend, maybe Haradrim princess, Lenny Henry the old father figure/ tribal chief, and Sophia Nomvete...some village witch, it would be more interesting, and it would be chance to explore the more exotic locales, the dark skinned Haradrim would also make more sense to interact with Numenoreans, and their 'white colonialism' the Numenoreans colonies on the shores of Harad, like Umbar would be then vital location! Also one could explore TOLKIEN lore bits and descriptions of the Haradrim: "They are fierce. They have black eyes, and long black hair, and gold rings in their ears... lots of beautiful gold. And some have red paint on their cheeks, and red cloaks and their flags are red, and the tips of their spears; and they have round shields, yellow and black with big spikes."/"For a moment he caught a glimpse of swarthy men in red running down the slope some way off with green-clad warriors leaping after them... a man fell, crashing through the slender trees, nearly on top of them. He came to rest in the fern a few feet away, face downward, green arrow-feathers sticking from his neck below a golden collar. His scarlet robes were tattered, his corslet of overlapping brazen plates was rent and hewn, his black plaits of hair braided with gold were drenched with blood. His brown hand still clutched the hilt of a broken sword." And voila! All laid down for those amazon morons!)
So, the blade-shaped keyhole was in the plinth, in front of the sword statue that Arondir revealed when realizing the blade was a "Key" to which he knew not what. A blade-shaped keyhole,....In the plinth,... in the courtyard of the castle that Arondir had lived in,... for 79 years. Bravo writers, Bravo!
The other problem with Galadriel doing the upside down arrow dodge/sword chop thing was how she just kind awkwardly chopped backwards at the orc, meaning the end of her sword would barely have grazed it and her horse's own speed would have robbed the blow of any momentum, yet the orc just EXPLODES somehow. The rule of cool is cancelled when it's dumb. Not as dumb as Legolas running up the falling bricks in the Hobbit, but still dumb.
That and surfing a shield would give better shots than going down normally as that would make your aim go up and down rather than a conisistant slide down.
@@iguran6035 The one and only functional issue with the shield is that if the front is not slightly curved up, then it could snag on a step. Everything else is just tone. You'd think people would have more of an objection to the "embedded in his nervous system" thing in that case.
@iguran6035 No. You have been walking your entire life. You brain/eye/muscle memory can quickly learn to aim while descending on foot. Sliding down stairs quite literally would cause you to constantly shift your balance in completely unknowable directions. There is ZERO chance that you could get a shield to ride in smooth straight line. Zero
@o00nemesis00o it would not matter anyways because you would never be able to slide in a consistent enough manner as if you are a on a flat diagonal surface. As you slide down thec shield would constantly be bucking in different different directions along with your weight. It is basically impossible BEFORE any of what you said would matter. If you managed to slide down straight and smoothly, exactly what you said about clipping the stairs would happen. Regardless you jump on that shield and it won't even actually move. Its like people who think skateboards just magically glide hard wood against cement. Same shit. Skateboarders have to apply grease/wax ALL OVER EVERYTHING
@@6tiple6ix6afia okay while you are correct, bringing skateboards into it is exactly why the scene works, its just close enough to reality that suspension of disbelief happens almost instinctively. As opposed to someone being flipped into the air off a sword to take down an ice troll.
I love that they made it a phrase "the sea is always right" when technically the sea brought halbrand and galadrial together which turned halbrand into sauron again I guess lmao
I think the crucial point about humility is that Galadriel values it in OTHER PEOPLE. She's always right, so of course everyone else has to humble themselves before her.
I think this is what they were going for but I wanted more of his creepy love for the orcs, like watching a person raising a brood of Shelob-spiders and calling them his babies. The ick comes from the contrast in how he sees them and the monsters they really are.
"Stop pretending to be clever- it is not nice to lie." For some reason, the idea that "lying is bad" is the justification for being upset that someone is being pretentious is hilarious to me. It's such a simple, base, even innocent reason, yet it just hits so hard.
It has to be pointed out that the Numenoreans arrive while the sun is rising behind them (or so we are told). So, either they entered the Southlands from east to west, or this sun rises in the west. Or it was actually sunset when they were riding over the crest, even tho they are alternating with the night scenes in Tir Harad and it took another 12 hours of off camera riding to get to the village. Take your pick
We might as well assume that the Númenóreans actually wandered through the whole Southlands until they finally gave up and rode back to their ships and accidentally stumbled upon the one village that actually survived long enough and needed help btw The Sun still goes from the East to the West in this franchise, at least it should, and it is way too bright and light to be a sunset
@@HateshWarkio actually that might account for their missing time 🤔 New fan theory: Maybe there was an offscreen alien abduction. That would explain a lot of threads in this show
I think people liked this episode because we can finally see more of "real" elves, that act like elves (Adar), we get more screen time for the most relatable character in the show (Adar), we can finally settle who we are rooting for (orcs) and the hard work of our beloved heroes is rewarded with a great win (orcs). This episode was simply a great day for Orc Liberation Army. ;)
Your coverage is very entertaining. I have no interest in watching The Rings of Bezos but am on the edge of my seat waiting for your next video to drop. I really like how you are documenting the different characteristics of each main character and I cannot wait to see the monstrosity that results at the end of the series.
Honestly, from the first video when he pulled up the word file documenting the characters, I lost myself in even more raucous laughter. You hear the comments of course, but seeing the litany of superficiality and inconsistencies laid out is simply gold to me.
Oh my god, I had no idea it was THIS bad. To make someone like Adar MORE likeable than Galadriel is like a challenge, that's just impressive levels of fuckuppery
The thing about Adar is that if he's one of the first Orc then he is THOUSANDS of years older than Galadriel. Like one of the first taken to Utumno. She should be showing him pity and understanding, knowing he was tortured and abused (perhaps) by Morgoth himself, but instead she shows nothing but contempt for him. She has no idea of the Hell he's been though for centuries! How dare that spoiled b*tch judge him!! Only the Valar can judge him. I think this song could be Adar's theme song of his time as a slave in Angband. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2pZ-UpjtlXY.html
That is the only logic and worthy cause that Galadriel couldve had in her trip. She is one of the wisest of all the elves, and the only one who couldve come up with some understanding of the orcs' condition. Sad.
How lucky that the collapsing watchtower didn't break the dam before! And also so lucky that Adar really needs the sword to break the dam, instead of, you know, a pickaxe or hammer. This way there was at least a chance for the humans to escape and hide the mcGufffin. Tension! Hope! Plot!
Or you know...explosives :) unless they haven't been invented yet ;), Sauron and Saruman in lore used those hehe: "The bells of day had scarcely rung out again ... when far away he saw fires spring up, across in the dim spaces where the walls of the Pelennor stood. The watchmen cried aloud, and all men in the City stood to arms. Now ever and anon there was a red flash, and slowly through the heavy air dull rumbles could be heard. 'They have taken the wall!' men cried. 'They are blasting breaches in it. They are coming!' 'Where is Faramir?' cried Beregond in dismay. 'Say not that he has fallen!' The Return of the King, LoTR Book 5, Ch 4, The Siege of Gondor ... "Presently Ghân turned to the king. 'Wild Men say many things,' he said. 'First, be wary! Still many men in camp beyond Dîn ... But none to see between here and Stone-folk's new walls. Many busy there. Walls stand up no longer: gorgûn knock them down with earth-thunder and with clubs of black iron. They are unwary and do not look about them. They think their friends watch all roads!' At that old Ghân made a curious gurgling noise, and it seemed that he was laughing." Of course one can assume that it's the Second Age maybe Sauron have not yet invented explosives ;) but still destroying the dam should have been easy work for Orcs with tools who can tunnel in the solid rock :) building elaborate underground cities and fortresses hehe. Orcs even on their own were pretty skilled in that sort of thing.
@@fantasywind3923From what I understand, gunpowder has first been used by Saruman in the Battle of Helm's Deep, which is why it came off as that much of a surprise, when the Orcs brought a bomb to the wall. (Remember the scene with Saruman and Wormtongue, where the latter almost lights up the gunpowder with his candle?)
@@darkbum1510 as the quotes I brought up from book show Sauron also had use of them, his troopes blew up breaches in the walls of Rammas Echor on Pelennor Fields, in any case even if we would say that the explosives as a whole were later additions (Saruman may have simply copied Sauron as was said he often used various models, Saruman was also said to study the arts of the Enemy, "But Saruman had slowly shaped it to his shifting purposes, and made it better, as he thought, being deceived - for all those arts and subtle devices for which he forsook his former wisdom, and which fondly he imagined were his own, came but from Mordor; so that what he made was naught, only a little copy, a child's model or a slave's flattery, of that vast fortress, armoury prison, furnace of great power, Barad-dûr, The Dark Tower, which suffered no rival, and laughed at flattery, biding its time, secure in its pride and its immeasurable strength." , well the Orcs are known to play with various substances :) even in The Hobbit book there is reference to that. "It is not unlikely that they invented some of the machines that have since troubled the world, especially the ingenious devices for killing large numbers of people at once, for wheels and engines and explosions always delighted them, and also not working with their own hands more than they could help; but in those days and those wild parts they had not advanced (as it is called) so far." Of course the Saruman orc servants are the most notable: "[…] the Orcs have brought a devilry from Orthanc,' said Aragorn. 'They have a blasting fire, and with it they took the Wall. If they cannot come in the caves, they may seal up those that are inside." In the book they even used it multiple times: "Blasts of fire leaped up from below shaking the stones." […] "There was a roar and a blast of fire. The archway of the gate above which [Aragorn] had stood a moment before crumbled and crashed in smoke and dust. The barricade was scattered as if by a thunderbolt." But even in the First Age the Orcs learned a thing or two: "...and ravaged all the Falas, and besieged the walls of Brithombar and Eglarest. Smiths and miners and makers of fire they brought with them, and they set up great engines; and valiantly though they were resisted they broke the walls at last." The Silmarillion ... "Leaving his bed he took his bow from the wall and went to a narrow window; and he saw two Orcs setting fuel against his house and preparing to kindle it. Then Barach was shaken with fear, for marauding Orcs carried with them brimstone or some other devilish stuff that was quickly inflamed and not quenched with water" The Unfinished Tales And despite that there would be still countless other ways to bring down this dam as Orcs are crafty :).
Thank you for your YT series, which is really the best discussion of this abomination. Regarding the chronology, note that the meteor seen at the end of ep 1 was observed by (a) Galadriel just before she jumped from the Elven ship and (b) Arondir and Bronwyn as they approached Hordern. A few days later Galadriel would arrive in Númenor, and convince the queen to create an army, train that army an travel back to Middle-earth (a few months, realistically). During the same time, the villagers evacuated to the watchtower, stayed there one or a few days (not more, as they had no food) and got massacrated in exactly the same moment when the Númenórans arrived. Tolkien did not plunder like that - in fact, the LotR appendices contain an exact day-by-day table what happened when to whom for the entire LotR plot.
Someone should have told the writers that these kinds of tables exist (and that they could have built their own one for consistency or at least SOME kind of sense in their own storyline in case they were not allowed to use Tolkien's for legal reasons).
@@BadNessieWouldn't matter. They would have tossed the tables out the window anyway just like they did Celebrimbor's friendship with the Dwarves, the Dwarves' extensive trade networks, and the fact that Elves drown trying to swim across the ocean, in favor of making up the origins of mithril, Mount Doom, where Elendil's family came from, and anything else they think was a Tolkien lore tidbit.
Why did the elves that inhabited Ostirith to guard the southlands from evil for 79 years not notice the shrine dedicated to Sauron in the middle of the courtyard of the castle where they lived for the past 79 years?
The elves there are, as we can only surmise from the not noticing the giant trench and huge swathes of cut trees, as well as Arondir's later behavior, both partially blind and deaf.
I just noticed how Ostirith sounds like a mix of Osgiliath and Minas Tirith. 'Ost' means 'fort/citadel'. 'Tirith' means 'watch/guard'. So, Ostirith means 'fort of the watch'. This isn't a bad name, and I guess it suits it, it just feels weird how it happens to sound like these two cities.
I want to give you credit for something. I know you've received some mild criticism for using too many Emperor's New Groove memes (i didn't mind the frequency, personally) but you've demonstrated that you have listened to subscriber feedback and made adjustments to your fantastic content. Good on you. Your work is appreciated.
You give this show so much more credit than it deserves😂 watching you puzzle at the shows’ ineptitude is far more enjoyable than watching the episode, but makes it worthwhile.
I grew up with horses and horseback riding is one of my favorite things. The thing that I was like NOPE regarding Galadriel’s stunt was that her being upside down left her frontside (top) torso and neck COMPLETELY VULNERABLE! Sure she has on armor, but we have already seen in the series that their armor can be pierced.
I think you are too kind to not mind Galadriel wearing her suit of armor as she boarded the ship. Where did she get her Elvish suit of armor? She arrived on the island wearing a cloth frock. Did the island Smiths that that hate her, build her bespoke Elvish armor? Oh, sorry I forgot. Must consume. Must not think.…
I clarify in my episode 5 review. It is a problem her having that armour, but if we assume she does in fact have it as depicted I have no issue with her wearing it when she boards the ship.
Btw this was pointed out on another review but there is a huge continuity error involved Browyn or whatever her name. She actually takes 2 arrows... but the show than only shows one during the first aid scene. If you slow the arrow scene down you'll see both of them hitting with the first one hitting her in the back of the leg and the second one being around the lung area. The actress also reacts to both so they were intended in the script but the writers literally are goldfish so they forgot when they turned the page over to write the next page. Also a big thing in lore was that most Orc's would poison tip their arrows so like yeah she should be dead even if it didn't hit a vital human organ like the upper part of a lung.
The Rings of Power is so bad that you'd think it was Uwe Boll who made the series. The fact that they didn't check that it was Sauron's sword that Udûn had wrapped is taken from Uwe Boll's BloodRayne where there was a box with a magical heart that Rayne delivered and no one checked if the box contained any heart. When they later opened the box, it was empty.
You are giving RoP too much credit. Uwe Boll, usually working with a shoestring budget, at least has someone proofread his scripts to avoid all the “goldfish memory” moments this show has
Another hilarious thing about the whole plan with flooding the volcano is often overlooked since those details are multiple brain melting episodes apart, but consider this: The elves in Ostirith in fact couldn't see the trenches, because the trenches were actually miles away. Ostirith is shown to be in the corner just north of the small mountain ridge spanning from the west into Mordor (sorry, The Southlands of course). In episode 3 (I guess it was 3), the camera zooms in on the map to the location of the tree Arondir chops down, which is hundreds of mikes south of this mountain ridge, just west to the sea of Nurn. That means all the trench digging we saw could not possibly have connected Ostirith with Mount Doom. Physicist would be astouned by the writers ability to manipulate the spacetime-continuum
What are the odds that Samwise tells Frodo the identical thing that Bronwyn tells Theo about the shadow, in the end, being "a small and passing thing"! I guess Theo hands down this piece of wisdom over thousands of years and somehow Samwise hears it and uses it in another dire situation. Amazing! OR, RoP writers coopted dialogue better than they could have written to put into the mouths of their own cardboard characters in order to elevate them. Hmmmm, whichever could it be???
I wanted to say exactly the same thing. Just milking of member berries of the films. I have not yet watched the whole video or scrolled through all comments, so I put this here: "Noro Lim"
There's also a subtle "legolas moment" when the fellowship is trying to pass Caradhras and everyone is struggling through the snow but legolas is able to walk gently on top of it, without so much as leaving a mark.
Did I mention the re-watch? > After a promising start, this series has been dragging its big hairy feet. ... so, it's psychopathic and willing to leave anyone behind? > World-building takes time World-breaking is so, so much faster. > Tonally, the series has been hard to pin down so far - it can feel as if one minute the harfoots will be wandering around all whimsical, and the next, someone will be getting their throat slashed AH YES, SO, PSYCHOPATHIC > MADE LIVING IN THE SHADOW OF MOUNT VESUVIUS SUCH AN EXCITING PROPOSITION jesuschrist all those glowing reviews. This settles it, I'm clearly in the wrong universe. > BROTHERS AND SISTERS Have we seen one SINGLE female Orc? > because Arondir locked the door by... doing this I counted two actions that should've resulted in three broken legs. On the one Elf. How did you remain sitting at your keyboard at the sight of this? Space and time have gone to hell, so apparently have mass and materials science. And architecture. > why not just destroy the bridge? That would mean that they can stay inside a very well fortified position Does it though? When burning one rope FROM A DISTANCE WITH AN ARROW brings it down, is it really at all fortified? > This, as if it needs saying, is incredibly dangerous because if she gets knocked overboard she will sink and drown SHUTUP SHUTUP SHUTUP DON'T SAY IT OUT LOUD THIS IS OUR BEST HOPE > doing that thing again where I'm thinking critically about character decisions when what I should be doing is drooling like a disabled dog and clapping like a seal because You know, I was going to comment here something like "NO don't you dare, that's the job of the writers!" until I realised that's what all the praise by all the morons really sounds like. > the Orcs in "Rings Of Power" however just seem to be respawning *cough* ageofempires *cough* > I'll be honest guys, so far the praise that episode 6 has received is very much a mystery to me On the other hand, we might have an idea of where the bulk of the PR funding of that billion dollars might have gone. > which looks superficially cool but suffers from the cliche of 'the bad guy throws the good guy around a whole bunch when he could just kill him'. This Orc is significantly stronger than Arondir and it could just snap his neck To be fair - sorry, unreasonably charitable - the Orc's punch into Arondir's face that played as you said this *pretty much should have snapped his neck right there*. > then Big Chungus bends Arondir over and fills him with his juices [...] Alright. I'll tell the whole truth - Big Chungus removes the stick from his eye and blood squirts out of his eye hole as if his eye is a major artery and squirts all over Arondir's face ... I'm still not sure which of these is worse. > sorry guys, I am trying to keep this PG-13 but Big Chungus is making me hard - oopwaitshitImean - I deliberately kept the drink away from my keyboard. And yet I'm half an inch away from spraying asthma puffer into upcoming vomit _goddamnit_ I was in goddamn Eighth Grade when "Careless Whisper" came out ("Fellowship Of The Ring came out when I was nine goddamnit I'm old" yeah sing it to someone else, *sonny*). We had to *study* that song in music class and I became incredibly sick of that song. I swear, this application is the only thing in all these years that has redeemed it. > And they are shocked to discover that a good number of the dead are in fact the defectors who left with Waldreg Although, isn't it interesting that we never saw a single one of these defectors pause for a *moment* at the idea of killing the people they *lived with* as little as a week ago? > which makes this an instance of characters being dumb and or inconsistent in order to facilitate drama Which, to be unreasonably charitable, *is pretty consistent*. > so my assumptions are apparently built on a foundation of ass gravy where in the name of any god you choose did you get that picture of what almost looks like a cat on a toilet and for the love of that god can you please put it back there > let's just say all twenty of them survived... the Southlands's Halbrand's kingdom consists of twenty people. Are there more? We don't have any reason to believe there are more. *WE'LL FIX IT IN POST. COPY-PASTE.* > These people - as if we needed any further evidence - are incomprehensibly unintelligent. I will place the blame specifically on Cowladriel and Arondir I know it's not appropriate to say "NO, THE WRITERS!", but yeah, "NO, THE WRITERS!". > There are zero references to it being a volcano. In the entire six hours of run time What I want to know and I think I've seen no discussion anywhere is, HOW DO THE WRITERS think it at all appropriate in ANY WAY to DETONATE A VOLCANO, not at the END of the season as cliffhanger, but THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY IN? > because it only happens due to multiple conveniences and contrivances and utter disregard for basic physics So, ON-BRAND AND FULLY CONSISTENT FOR PAYNE AND MCKAY. Just think. These idiots had a script for "Star Trek" rejected FOR SOME REASON. You think they're treating space, time and mass badly now? Can you imagine, for just one minute, what these people would do with a transporter, phaser or warp engine?
Jackson's "Leggy Moments" where knowingly silly, humorous. A callback to the silliness of classic adventure films. They were a nudge-nudge wink-wink moment from the makers to the audience. These and the cameo's were just the two bits of fourth wall breaking they allowed themselves. The Galadriel moment wasn't, it was just another in an infinite series of "Look how awesome girl boss Galadriel is" from utterly oblivious showrunners.
Jackson's Leggy Moments are, to me, similar to ROP moments like Durin confessing to Elrond he made the whole "sacred table stone" shit up. That was funny and reminded me of silly moments in LOTR. Like Legolas's stair-surfing, but also other moments of course. Galadriel's horse-acrobatics was just... Eeh...
You are right, they did make Galadriel into a Monster for this Series, thank goodness I haven't watched it and instead get to enjoy your Analysises instead.
49:20 - Agreed, I think a lot of GaladRiels actions can be explained as annoying due to her character simply being portrayed as annoying. I'd also add, which I'm sure someone else has pointed out as well at this point, that while Legolas' surfing scene is somewhat goofy in a vacuum, it still also has a tactical advandage. Like you mention, he is able to both remain a quickly moving target AND continue to fire. GaladRiel does... nothing but hang upside down and ride in a straight line, both contributing nothing to the battle, and leaving herself open to further attacks for several seconds. There is a point to Legolas' move, there is no point to GaladRiels. You could effectively remedy the issue and have the same "badass move" had she just gotten knocked off her horse by some external force, rather than just uncomfortably swing sideways for no real reason.
Ok Let's just state this clear and up front. I like your reviews way more than the show. They have better writing, and are WAY more re-watchable. The only negative to the show ending is...no more reviews after your wrap up😭
Nitpick: Volcanoes do not cover the earth in darkness for thousands of years, certainly not ones triggered by some fizzy water instead of dark magic. So, the Orcs have a homeland for a month, a year at most. Frodo's Mordor is sunny with a chance of showers unless the orcs take a wazz into the crater continuously for the next 5000 years
It was worth suffering through the series just to enjoy your videos. My starting point was just as yours, I don't care much about lore as long as the story makes sense and does not clash with Hobbit and LotR. Your analysis of all scenes, plots and characters from that perspective is incredibly interesting and I am in awe how clerly you comunicate your points. On top of everything, your voice and the way you speak is very pleasent to listen to. I cannot wait for your next video and I hope it will be longer and just as awesome as the previous ones x
These breakdowns are so well done and satisfying to watch. I struggled to make it through each episode of the RoP but binge watched your videos all in one day! This was like just the therapy I needed after making it through that absolute train wreck of a show. Cheers!
In terms of a timeframe up to this episode, the only information relayed within the show is: Mr Meteor crashing down - common start point Galadriel in the Numenor throne room - Given 3 days to decide what to do with her Miriel watching the leaves fall - Given 10 days to assemble and train an army before leaving On the ships - 1 day to reach Middle-Earth, and 1 more day to sail up a river into the Southlands. The eruption of Mt. Doom - common end point. My guess is that the storylines were written independently, then cut up and shoved into place so that there were multiple plots happening in each episode, and nobody even tried to think about a coherent timeline. Now it was mentioned by the showrunners that the Harfoot migration was to take roughly two weeks from them leaving after the book reading, and arriving at the burned tree in the next episode, but that was not presented in the show so cannot be taken into account.
You just don't understand Elendil is actually related to Al Bundy (Married... with Children) So the reason Elendil considers the sea to be always right is because it killed his wife while the rest of Númenóreans just coppied him because they thought it is some deep profound knowledge
I appreciate the detailed breakdown that points out all the small stupidities of this show. Because the big stupidities are so, well...big that it's easy to become overwhelmed. For example, I was so busy gawking at how Galadriel--and anyone else--was supposed to have survived a pyroclastic flow that I didn't really think about how equally stupid it was that Old Man Bad Guy (Waldreg?) was able to make it out of the village with the evil sword in the middle of a cavalry attack. This is textbook Bad Robot writing: as long as there is big spectacle, it doesn't matter if it makes sense how we got to said big spectacle. Other than being bribed by Amazon, I have no idea why anyone would call this show anything but ridiculous shlock.
Actually I can understand that. If they are fighting orcs a human peasant fleeing the battle space would an irrelevance. Just a villager fleeing the fighting.
At this point (aka, having watched all the other Breakdowns of ROP here), Imma just go ahead and like the video before starting to watch. I doubt I will regret it in one hour and 20 minutes :D
This reviews are amazing. I like your mathematical logic mind and approach while being funny and fair. I have listened to each of your analysis more than once. Please keep up the excellent work.
actually been waiting for another one of these vids. im glad hollywood is putting out garbage cuz it creates hours and hours of digestive content in response. Itll eventually grow the independent content creators market as they slowly wither
Another point on the threat of the night walkers, they are zombies, so anyone who dies fighting them joins their ranks, which is an even bigger threat.
58:25 6 episodes in, and I finally realize it's like the writers watched the Robot Devil gag from Futurama, but didn't realize it was meant as a joke/gag. "You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel like there's a tempest in me!" Thanks for the giggles!
Laughed so much at this that I developed severe chest pains and had to call the doctors.. who never answered, probably because I was using an antelope.
This is now my second view, I STILL NEED MORE! No but jokes aside, these in depth, humorous, well written long videos are my crack. And you my friend has just become my favourite dealer. Thank you for your service.
During the attack on the village when the human archer next to Arondir was taken down by the orc, I'm wondering why the orc didn't try to sneak kill Arondir first. He was easier to reach on the roof, the orc literally had to walk past him to kill the human first. Also from his armor he was clearly the more valuable target. But what do I know about orc strategy..
Even after giving up upon falling asleep during episode 4, i was gonna try it again. But when episode 6 aired, and I heard about the inexorably cthulu-like Eldritch Stupidity that was employed, and literally every single thread they could hope to say they had went up in a pyroclastic flow
Plus, the asinine monstrously patently evil nature of the writers, showing their main character, the heroine (because they won't "write" a male MC lol), be absurdly evil, and the antagonist is a sympathetic conflicted person just under the boot of the evil MC. They are evil themselves, and even when aiming for "Good" can only write evil.
Rebuttal about Adar's initial plan. I believe Adar didn't use the defectors to attack the outpost because he doesn't trust them to accomplish anything other than die. Against hard fortifications, untrained, inexperienced militia would be less than worthless. However, against an open village that they know the layout of, it absolutely makes sense to send the defectors in, with a small Cadre of orcs to lead them. The defectors bleed the villagers, trigger any traps or defenses, and Adar doesn't lose more than a handful of Orcs. He also doesn't want to shoot into the melee because if the defectors feel Adar has betrayed them they might try to surrender and re-join the defenders.
A great series, yours, not the Rings of power. I think it was myth-busters who showed that if water at atmospheric pressure is heated instantly to +370'c the result is an extremely rapid expansion of the water, something to do with hydrogen bonds in the water starting to break. So yes, water added to a volcanic chamber under the right condition, could result in a release of magma. However, for the mountain to explode like Krakatoa, I think this is just another case of the physics in the universe of the Rings of Power.
You would not have to inject the water into the magma. If you just drop it on the surface it would just boil off and create a crust as it cooled the magma. If I remember correctly Vesuvian explosive eruptions are driven by gas expansion deep in the magma rather than on the surface.
Someone's actually done a video analysing if this would work in real life (spoiler alert: no) and what different kinds of volcanic eruptions exist and how they happen. It IS possible for water to cause an eruption, but not like this. In any case, you need pressure for an eruption to happen in the first place and, seeing how there was a big hole the water entered into Mt. Doom from, this very clearly shows that the chamber was not pressurised. The water would've evaporated. The end.
god, i have seen all of the rings of power analysis and im laughing so hard, fantastic work mate! it is so right on the money! im looking for the rest of the season every day, looking forward to it!
45:35 Legolas vs Galadrial (sorry if spellings wrong) Legolas's stunt makes perfect sense and looks practical. He is at war. Has to be fast ,efficient and effective. It looks cool/showy but doesn't compromise the intensity of the situation. Whereas Galadrial twisting her body to just to kill 1 orc while taking her sweet time is totally uncalled for. She is at war , attack is happening from every side and you don't hv time to do flashy moves that even to kill 1 enemy. 🤦 You can notice so many difference. Legolas : Legolas used his brian to cleverly take advantage of his environment. He has to reach down but aware that he might slip at stairs and the up down motion might hindere his aim. So he took the sturdy shield, easily accessible to him and used it as slide to solve all problems. Note: he does it with a wall behind him which does protects his back . Now look at his efficiency- Legolas shot 3 arrows with precision while sliding down. We see 1 enemy getting killed . Further, he use the shelid as weapon to kill another orc + 2nd one with an arrow as soon he reach the bottom . Then saves Gimli. Mission accomplished. Within few seconds. > Galadrial : Insead of switching the sword to her other hand which will be smarter and quick she instead does upside down swings that even on the side where the enemy is. With a bow and arrow. Making herself vulnerable. Takes more time to do and recover from the move. Prone to falling, hiting her head. Disorienting. Not a good postion to defend herself. Takes more energy to swing the sword and might give less accurate aim. Meanwhile the enemy can block her sword and chop her head like a sacrifical goat. But all of these to achieve what? To kill 1 orc. Also she was able to kill him bcs the orc despite having enough distance and time to run instead stood there. (Bcs he even doesn't want to be in this abomination anymore. 😂) Conclusion - Legolas achieved probably 5-6 kills and saved his friend without making himself vulnerable. Within few seconds. >> Audience realise his smartness, care for Gimil. Thus ,start to appreciate him more. Galadrial got one kill which could hv been done way more easily. >> Audience realise she is an egoistic 🆔diot. Thus , more disliked. If someone makes actual comparison of movie LoTR vs RoP. The RoP writers and fans gonna end up crying. It's so bad.
Realizing this is a late comment for the thread but 2 things 1- your reviews have been absolutely awesome 2- I have been down the RU-vid rabbit hole with these reviews but there is another awesome scene review of the interrogation scene where they’ve done a comparison with naz1 scenes from another movie and it was freaky how she is step by step exactly like the naz1 torturer
Nice to see that you have made lesser use of the cartoon scenes, not so often repeating them. I mentioned that one or two vids ago. Keep up the good work. :)
An important thing to consider with the Mumakil scene is that, despite how over-the-top it is, Legolas is clearly in danger the whole time. It’s obvious from his face and the way he keeps changing his approach that he’s making it up as he goes along and keeps hitting unexpected obstacles, like how he flails around when the Mumakil swats at him with its tail or how he gives up on shooting into the gondola when the Haradrim spearmen nearly slam into him while lunging at him. This was a stunt that took genuine effort on his part and nearly got him killed multiple times.
I like Adar. He's the only character I actually empathize with. He's likely the oldest living Elf in Middle Earth and therefore the most dear to my heart. I hope he gets some redemption, or at least isn't killed by Howbland on S2E1 in a cheap "Recognize me now?" type of way..
Uhg... sorry... LoTR is soap opera writing now, that's what will happen... And it'll get a 16/10 by all the critics as they cheer the genocidal lunatic killing "slaves"... FFS, I got sad writing this...
I kind of like Adar too, but that's part of the problem - Tolkien doesn't really do antiheroes. Did we like the Witch-King of Angmar, did we like the Mouth of Sauron, did we like Durin's Bane? No, it's not that kind of narrative. Sympathetic villains are a modern invention, but the idiots running this show think that such characters belong in a Tolkien adaptation. They're already saying S2 Sauron is going to be like Walter White and/or Tony Soprano. It's asinine.
An additional problem is that Adar is, like so many things, built on a foundation of bullshit. 1) Why is he considered to be the Father of the orcs? Does that make Morgoth their mother? WTF does he mean, "we prefer uruk" when that's just another word for orc? 2) Why is he trying to build his Uruktopia in the one piece of real estate that Sauron has claimed? Why not just take them east to Rhun, or south to Harad, or literally anywhere else in Middle-Earth? Okay, he thinks Sauron is dead, but why provoke the Elves and Numenoreans if he has no plan for countering them? If he's neither able nor willing to fill Sauron's shoes as the new Dark Lord? 3) How is this guy supposed to have taken out Sauron if he can't handle a single village defended by idiots? Did Sauron fake it as part of his aborted redemption arc, and if so, why is he pissed off when he encounters Adar again?
Loved the summary in your conclusion. Amazing how you could make it sound good when you mention what happens .. wild how they still screwed it up so amazingly
Probably too late to be seen but regarding the science behind the volcano: A sizable amount of water poured into a volcano based would absolutely cause a chain reaction seen in this episode. You can see this in multiple YT videos where small amounts of water will cause a small reaction and then it gets bigger and bigger. You can even see it with trash-hence why we don't do this-where it'll bubble slightly then go nuts and start a full on lava eruption. Add a river of water into a massive cauldron of lava and I'd have no doubts of it causing a reaction seen in the episode (and maybe sprinkle in a bit of Tolkein-esque magic being that geological inaccuracy is directly mentioned by Tolkein himself). However, I also think Everyone would be dead and especially Galadriel. Also also, I actually have more of an issue with *how much* water they showed. the water flow showed no sign of stopping and with that much water, you'd eventually start forming basalt which would takeaway from the force being projected out.
I really appreciate how you compared as to why the Legolas feats versus Galadriel feats works. So many people that simp for this show immediately just go for "you're misogynist" which is just their way of showing their fingers in their ears and yelling 'nah nah, I can't hear you.' Plus, the fact that Legolas isn't a selfish dick is a great argument lol
1:17:03 No U. Thank you for making these. Your analysis is on point, funny, and helpful. It easily allows us normies without your unbridled brain and sarcasm to give people reasons why the show is shit without even talking about how it absolutely surprise-buttfricks the source material. Edit: Also, multiple posts to feed the algorithm ;)
First, what a great set of video's... I don't normally do comments, but it seemed worth saying: GJ, keep it up :) I am curious where the idea of making the protagonist a genocidal maniac came from though? I think back to Aliens with "nuke the site from orbit" but those are instinctually driven, dangerous monsters... Anakin killing the village of Tuskens? That's foreshadowing for him turning evil. But what about Rob Stark saying "I'll kill them all" referring to the Lannisters after Ned was killed? An emotional moment built on a season long series of events and relationships. If this is the """inspiration""" it's exactly the same, Right? RIGHT?! Afterall, who would write those lines and think "yea, this is the bestest, most awesome hero ever"? It has to be an attempt to copy something good the writers saw. Seeing as the other references are so obvious, this one is puzzling honestly...
