How did they get the base price up from 39k to 72k. That's terrible. They cancelled the Bolt to make more of these and now they are going to be totally puzzled why they don't sell as well. Never change, GM.
Management at GM is straight up inbred. They can not be to misread the market this bad everytime. “Ford is sold out on their revived Bronco for years! How do we compete????? Let’s take our legacy blazer name anddddddd make an economy crossover styled like our unliked Camaro!”
You’d never get that you pay $80k plus in gas prices. Hundred percent did the math. It’s THÉ most forgotten thing…. You get a truck that you can charge for $20……..
I am just shocked that for car guys you don't realize that GM basically created an homage to the Avalanche. Not Honda and not anything else. The Avalanche started this look 2 decades ago.
These reviewers don’t really be knowing shxt about American manufacturers or the history and impact of their products. So many Americans are too willing to give German and Asians credit for everything. Smh 🤦🏽♂️
I am just shocked that at the 9:46 when they mention the Ridgeline, it’s literally a side profile and they are talking about the front end aspect of the vehicle. You’d figure for a viewer nitpicking a RU-vid car review channel you would be able to make that distinction and not get on your high horse about the Avalanche they mentioned earlier in the video.
This is what you pay when you know you're making a massive amount of electronic waste... *AGAIN* (cough, cough H3e cough, cough) either way can't stand the hard corners on the OSD, where is the homage to Ye Olde Laptop'ia that Ford created again #question_mark , why don't I have seating for 10 inside just like the en route Cybertruck, where does the 4×8 piece of plywood go again? doesn't Rivian include an air compressor, no ear tunnel because why would your work crew need that and other matters speaking of Rush'edIn with your Pontiac T-72 with autoloader like that was going to surprise anyone how that was going to turn out too. No Blue Cruise, still no GM proprietary Internet despite GM having Onstar...no concierge service, no specialized roof or rear racks to show off as standard ...but electric blue too tho!...hard to imagine at one time General Motors manufactured Class 8 Locomotives looking at this *SOOOOO* not a Honda Ridgeline and of course sooo correct to again point out the price as such yes, absolutely. Still looks better than both the new Toyota Truck offerings *VERDICT:* "Cadillac Lyriq please save us big time, here and right now!"
A good thing about the bed/fender situation is that, unlike Rivian, GM broke the side panel with that plastic trim piece above and behind the rear door window, which will conceal any weld seam in case the fender panel needs to be replaced. Doesn't look amazing, but will make a fender bender less horribly expensive, and the body is also steel, instead of aluminium.
@@jorgeluiscorrea992 one company has been building vehicles for over a century the other just builds expensive adult size rc vehicles nobody can afford.
@@jorgeluiscorrea992 Not fixability/cost to repair. Rivian mainly focuses on looks and performance. There's no ideal solution for design, there is design that caters to different priorities.
Less horribly expansive. These are rarified animals…they will never be ubiquitous enough to achieve economies of scale necessary to make a replacement anything less than a total financial nightmare. No big deal…insurance, electricity etc are all going up so this makes these kinds of issues an unlikely concern for most people. Manufacturing constraints, MSRP+ dealer games and pathetic towing range make these nothing more than open bed minivans in terms of total practicality. TFL Truck did a towing test with a Ford Lighting and a fairly standard all up tow test of 5000 lbs and it managed to 90 miles and cost 29$ to recharge. Even if battery density doubled, 180 miles and the stupidly high cost of the batteries makes these useless. I honestly hope people get over this stuff soon and give the gov and the industry the bird..and keep the old ICE stuff going. Besides commercial transport is responsible for the majority of emissions anyway…so this “feel good” saving the planet hero complex stuff the industry is selling everyone on is perhaps the most egregious lie of all.
You obv never had a truck with big wheels. 24s ain’t shit. And the ride is absolutely fine I promise you. I had a Yukon on 24s and a Tahoe on 26s and they both rode smooth and you’d never know it was on the wheels if you got in the truck with your eyes shut. Don’t knock it till you try it. 😊
The work version is way cooler, I like the smaller wheels over the huge wheels on the others. The RST doesn't look purposeful it looks like a soft truck.
Majority of trucks on the road r just driven around anyways 😂. Manufacturers finally realized how majority of their customer base just buys a truck cause they want to.
I think this would be fine for 95% of use cases when you really start to think about it, most trades, and service technicians would find this perfect and short haul towing would be simple enough. Even longer haul occasional towing would be okay, I think it would only be a problem for frequent, heavy long haul towing for now but if they get the charging speed up a bit and more importantly if the charging curve holds high capacity for extended periods it could work very will while driving down fuel and maintenance costs through the floor. @@chrism869
@@cherrytreepermaculture756 you stop for an hour for a bathroom break? And there's charging stations at rest stops? And you know that electric trucks won't ever be able to tow 5000 lbs more than 180 miles right? Wow you know a lot of nothing.
@@LongWalker730you really are showing your ignorance if you really don't think there aren't any fast charging stations at rest stops since there are currently a lot of charging stations at the biggest rest stops like Loves, Buccees, and Wawa. That said, the majority of drivers will never use this truck or any trucks to do actual truck stuff and just use it as a suburban hauler.
@@ElectricGlider2016 OK so good for you. What about the rest of the country that doesn't have those, which is most of the country? And if you're so smart, why don't you solve the problem of wait times? If there's two people ahead of me, that's an hour and a half I have to wait to charge my truck.
Buying an EV from a company with a long history of electrical problems sounds like a great idea. Next time you see a vehicle with a headlight out, 90% chance it's a GM.
Got that right, you don't even realize working for a Chevrolet dealer as a technician. How many electrical problems are on the regular gas powered trucks
I hope that GM actually fixed how the Avalanche's tailgate would eventually start to leak. many owners ended up caulking the midgate shut because of it.
This is the plan of the majority of automotive companies. Make as much as possible on the life of the vehicle. Try to make it so that Chevy techs can fix it so they aren't just getting your money on the sale but post sale as well in service and repairs.
@@stephenmarkovic878and then they say these new cars are „environmentally friendly“ when in reality a relatively minor crash is enough to render them scrap. My guess is that at least 50 percent of these new EV trucks won’t make it past 10 years old
This review caught me by surprise. This truck is one that's been talked about seemingly forever and I wasn't expecting to see one this early! Maybe September...
Yep, I remember when all the cybertruck cultists were calling the R1T, Hummer, Lightning and Silverado EV, vaporware, yeah about that! Though to be fair the CT will be pretty awesome when it eventually gets into customer hands, key word being eventually.
@@anydaynow01 How many Lyrics and Hummers has GM sold this year? Seems pretty vaporware to me. Performance wise, the CT will beat the pants off the Silverado and it’s coming this year. 1400 lb. payload is a joke. 240kW battery is grossly inefficient with price and weight to match. And this is the fleet vehicle. The consumer version is $105K before dealer mark ups.
A work truck with 40K bumper replacement bill potential and no hard buttons for lights? I am not a worktruck guy but those would have been deal breaker for me.
Ford did raise prices on the F-150 Lightning Pro but it still comes in cheaper than the Silverado. You could get a higher trim Lightning for the same price as the Silverado WT 😂
@@The-fs5wnbecause you’re an idiot. Ford is way behind *gm* and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist or Superman’s x-ray vision to see through their attempts to be the first automaker to rush a half baked and rebadged EV pickup to market which they had to raise the prices on. If it was *gm* that couldn’t keep their promise on price and was raising them then it’d be talked about everywhere.
@@The-fs5wn the reviews show 2.2miles per kwh which matches the much smaller&lighter rivian r1t. With 205-212kwhs useable pack capacity? This should do 420-450 real world mixed miles of driving per 1 full charge. I'd guess under 400 hwy only though prob around 350 at 70-75mph. More if slower, less if faster average speeds just like gas. 👍🏻
Cant put on a contractor cap, cant use box drawers, cant get a full load of material vs a real pickup, cant use a gooseneck or 5th wheel trailer, cant remove the box for a flat bed or another form of utility box... Now for the EV and its price premium. Youre getting a much less capable truck than a base model 3/4 ton, and when you run out of "fuel" you have to pull over and charge. Lets say you have 5 skilled tradesmen making $45/hr (not including benefits) sitting at a charger instead of making you billable hours. How much does that cost vs a 5 min fuel up at the beginning of the day? Im sure the government will buy a ton of these because they pass the bill onto the taxpayers, and they operate at a loss every single year. Real business owners wont buy this trash until its the only option (again, by government mandate). If you dont use a truck for work then you wouldn't know how truly impractical these are.
I’ll probably never need or own a truck in my life, so I was looking for input from someone who uses trucks as trucks and not as driveway jewelry. Thanks for your comment.
I'm not a contractor, but why wouldn't you just charge it overnight so you start the day with a full tank? That's what most people do, since it's the easiest and cheapest option ... at least 5X cheaper than gasoline. Plus no oil changes, no tune-ups, no brake-jobs, etc. Now your five tradesmen can get straight to work, plus the truck can power their tools all day. Just asking ... not trying to be a wise-guy. I've owned both a Tesla and a V8 Trail Boss the last three years, and I like the EV option better.
There is still maintenance to be done on an EV. It is irresponsible to promote otherwise. And there will be costs down the road, the major one being when that battery pack needs to be replaced. Look at how many Teslas are currently for sale right around the time that battery needs replacing. And these vehicles have brake systems so yes they will require brake jobs. And tires. And windshield washer. And.....
@@victorassivero1061 True, there is some EV maintenance, but very little compared to a gasoline car. My Tesla's 500HP rear-motor has one moving part that's the size of a watermelon. The front motor is a little smaller. They're geared directly to the wheels with no clutches or complex shifting mechanisms or fluids that need replacing. That 2016 powertrain has required zero maintenance and only one one service item ... a CV joint that was replaced under warrantee. It should last several hundred thousand miles, and their newer powertrains are being designed for a million miles. This common narrative that they're all about to fail is simply false. As for brakes ... at least 90% of braking is done by your motors, so the brakes last at least 10X longer than those of a gasoline car. The motors act as generators when slowing down, putting that braking energy back into your battery.
All trucks are more expensive now. The take-home price of my '19 Trail Boss was $41K. Now the take-home price of the same truck is $55K or more, yet it's not really improved any. However, these Silverado EVs offer much better performance, electric fuel is 2X to 5X cheaper than gasoline, the truck should never need new brake pads/rotors, and it can power all your work tools, or your house during an outage. So there are some advantages to the EV.
@@paulrybarczyk5013 oh yeah I totally agree evs have a ton of benefits but they almost doubled the price tag that they originally announced. I bet they originally were not planning on putting such a large battery pack in each of the trucks
@@87TechReviews Note that they are demoing the biggest-battery most-loaded WT trim here. There will also be cheaper WT versions that are closer to the original $40K estimate. I'm guessing $49K.
This has the fold down mid gate just like the old Chevrolet avalanche. Basically the back window comes out, the rear seats fold down and then your cabin is open into the bed of the truck
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Good luck to Chevy trying to get construction companies, police departments, small businesses, etc. to pay 80 grand for a work truck when gas work trucks cost less than half that and have proven reliability and serviceability. They'll be sticking to gas for the foreseeable future.
Easy. I work at a leasing company, most government bodies want electric. Remember there's more leeway for green initiatives, and most importantly, it's not their money.
manual override for headlights inside a screen is insane. in my experience, auto headlights do not work in all situations. but let me take my eyes off the road to turn on the safety feature.
@@ARCNA442 My thoughts exactly lol. There is so much weird fluff around these EV’s which makes them hard to trust. If they’re as amazing as they claim, the vehicle should speak for itself.
The pricing on these new EV trucks is hilarious. Also, as usual manufacturers refuse to allow the work trucks to get the useful work truck options like the pass through bed and the adjustable tailgate.
@@Lucas-gu7sjor they’re too in touch with their own ideas. I wish y’all let this stupid avalanche thing go, I’m so tired of reading about it. It’s NOT an Avalanche, it’s a Silverado with a mid-gate. Please stfu about it.
LOL the grid went down last year here in Oklahoma, and there was panic because NONE of the gas stations could pump gas. People were going nuts scrambling to find the closest gas stations that were operational, and then those ran out of gas too with people lined up for blocks.
This is NOT a truck! This is a luxury vehicle with a small (way too small) bed. Give me a break already, with these prices the whole EV farce is becoming crystal clear. EV will never be realistic, not for the average consumer that makes less than 60k a year here in Canada.
RIP gas trucks, until you have to use it like an actual truck - i.e. haul stuff and drive long distances. Then you'll put the goofy RC truck away and get the correct tool for the job.
Exactly... these are good to replace the trucks people drive to the mall...or the golf course. At $80k for a work truck that's absurd. And if you actually need to tow a trailer with your truck try charging the truck while you are towing...every charger I've seen in the pubic wouldn't allow a truck to charge with a trailer hooked up.
I agree, batteries wasted that should be in sensible vehicles. Than the ICE trucks that are actually REALLY needed could be like 20pc of the current build rate.
These things are useless as having a couple pansies that never worked a day in their life reviewing a work truck, "Oh yeah, I like it". Ok, but nobody cares. It is an overpriced heap of junk.
Anyone who is onboard with this kind of price for a work truck: would you honestly back up and get a yard of gravel dumped in the bed? How about filling the bed with paint and used brushed/rollers? I understand with anything new to the marker, there is a price premium attached. Also, many will be expensed out over the course of two years. But I still can’t understand spending $20k - $60k more for a work truck over it’s gasoline counterpart.
Did you guys do any real world towing? I'm curious real world towing range for a full charge, I can almost guarantee its not the 1/2 it shows you when you put it in tow/haul mode. Price point on these is still insane, you can get a fully loaded top of the line Ram 1500 Limited that can tow more for $2,000 more than your test truck. You get quilted leather, 12 inch center stack, dual pane sunroof, suede headliner, H&K sounds system, etc.... the list goes on and on all while towing 12,000 lbs but I guess "RIP Gas Trucks" lol. These EV trucks are still for city boys who don't haul. I would hate to tow my racecar with these EV's I guarantee me and my diesel get to the track before your EV does stopping to recharge.
Halving the range is basically a safety floor. It always raises up while driving as it learns the trailer and your driving habits with it. My F150L ER does precisely this when I hook up a new trailer, but on average I’ve seen towing range come out to about 70% of the range I’d expect without a trailer. For me, 225 miles or so is enough before a stop to get out and use the bathroom and stretch my legs. The more aerodynamic the load, the more range you’ll get “back” as you tow, so towing a race car would be a pretty good load for efficiency. I’ve noticed that the slight change in habits my truck has forced, including stops to charge, has actually lowered my stress levels. Forcing me off the road for a few more minutes to charge has been great. The tow up the hills to my “local” (aka unfortunately in the next state) racetrack has huge benefits in the EV - the most convenient DC Fast Charging station for me is on the edge of a gorgeous state park, is always quiet, and was built ‘drive through’ so you can keep a trailer attached. I leave home at 100%, drive the 180 miles to the charger, pulling in with about a 15-20% state of charge depending on my driving, get out and go for a walk in the park, grab a coffee, and get back on the road for the last 20 miles or so - way more than enough of a charge to take any scenic route home. Finding stops like that park charger has been truly enjoyable and they’ve really changed the driving/road trip experience for the better. You might get there quicker, but I can pretty much guarantee I’ll get there calmer. Seriously, if you can, take one for an extended test drive, or rent one for a week. It’s not quite the same without home charging, but it’s a pretty different experience. Not saying you’ll suddenly be converted, but they’re worth the consideration at this point, even if to gain first-hand experience.
@@a-_-s Thanks for all the good info. It will probably be a few more years before I need to replace the tow vehicle but i'm sure at some point I will have to go electric but i'm hoping they make more advancements. If I can wait until the next generation that would idea for myself.
I was going to ask everyone if they would prefer F150 Lightning or Silverado EV, but GM is sold out on their EV trucks so a lot of people will only have Lightnings available to them if they're wanting an electric truck. 👀
@@AE-qq1yfI’ve driven a Model Y with the regen on the most aggressive setting. On the highway, its virtually nonexistent. Which I was actually worried that on the highway it would be too noticeable. IDK if Tesla intentionally programmed it that way or the car has too much momentum at that speed to be able to use regen alone to slow the car down. But if the former is the reason maybe that’s why the taillights don’t always come on?
Crazy how you can get a gas WT for $50k, but the electric one will be over $75k. And people are excited about saving money on gas?? Hahaha. How much gas you saving to make up for $25,000? The world is nuts.
Who'd a thunk 1st generation Never been mass produced before product would be expensive? You are comparing different technology at different points of manufacturing scailing. It will get cheaper once Mass production is mature.
I wager they probs won't hear it unless they have an open window facing the driveway. My dad was astonished when we first got our PHEV, he basically never hears me backing into the driveway nowadays
I simply can not stand these companies like GM and Tesla that promise you the world, and deliver you so little. I think we could all understand GM needing to bump up the price a little, but they should have also known they weren't going to be deliver at that price 2 years later. further more they were advertising 40K just a few months ago, and if it would have come out at 45, or even 50 k most of us wouldn't be that angry... but 37k more than what you promised? that's almost twice the price.
I feel the same way. its a monopoly. If EVERYONE overcharges, then you HAVE to pay it. I don't see how people will afford $500k houses and $100k EV's in the next 5-10 years on what jobs pay now.
@@CoreanKat the tesla is that price after government incentives, not because that is the price, and go look at what Elon promised the model 3 to sell for, and look at the features he promised for the cyber truck... now look at what the model 3 actually costs, and then look at how few of those promised features are actually on the cybertruck.
@@CoreanKat I can't haul things with a Tesla. We are talking trucks here. "But the Cybertruck" No. Just now. It's going to be expensive and heavy. Weight is a consideration when you are talking about hauling cargo and towing trailers.
Yes this! They can keep all the fancy stuff, just give me the utility. Actually I just want a PHEV Silverado 2500 that has a 60 km EV range and a turbo V-6 with mountain mode.
Do they have engineers dedicated to making this look ugly? They literally have nice designs within their product line, and they did every possible thing to make this look like another bland pickup truck from the last 15 years. An incredible feat, deserves a JD power award.
@@TigerWonThat's funny you say that, because I think all other pickups look terrible. Way too rounded and friendly looking. The non EV Silverado and maybe the new Frontier are the only ones that work for me.
I just made calculations: I have a 2022 Silverado RST. (5.3l, 6'7" bed) Let say I buy a EV Silverado RST. I'm in Canada. I do 45,000km a year. Here are the annual numbers (financing on a 72 months, full fledge insurance) Gas Silverado: 21,269$ / year EV Silverado: 38,180$ / year I can see the point of getting a small car like a Bolt. But a big truck? Nah. I could also add the hourly rate of waiting at the charging station but won't do it... If there really was a work truck at 45,000$ that would change the data
I was excited when I first read about it, it would've been the first EV I could really afford that's practical for me, but then they jacked up the price $13,000 which means dealers will add another $5,000 or so making this a nearly $60,000 base model. So my next car will probably be the Telluride instead.
“RIP gas trucks” that’s a bold statement lol. The F-150 gets a laughable 90 miles range when towing max load. Will be interesting to see what this will do.
It’s fugly and the price is too high (a Lariat Lightning is better except for towing), but otherwise should be decent. As long as it doesn’t come with the Hummer’s problems.
But you very much can charge anywhere to keep the battery warm. You just need Level 2 to slow charge the battery + warm up the entire truck. Basically a fancy Dryer Plug.
Not really. Pretty much all EVs today on sale (aside from the LEAF, because, well, Nissan) have batteries with BMSs on it. What kills a battery is excessive heat (including in your phone), and with that monitored, batteries will outlast the vehicle itself.
@@4literv6 ha I wish but I can’t trust these ev’s as far as I can throw them and regardless of it all I would like to still get from point a to b and not sit at a charging station
The pricing is nuts. Chevy is competing directly with the GMC Hummer and both are much more expensive than the Ford F150 Lightning and Ram Revolution. Hard to buy a $100K truck that will only last 100k miles.
The Ford Lightning with the base model battery isn't bad on pricing. Unfortunately, it doesn't have any range. The high capacity battery brings the Lightning EV up close to $90k. It still doesn't have range. With the heat wave in the south right now and the projection of rolling brown and blackouts, at least with a gas engine, I can fill up 4-6 Jerry cans and get somewhere.
It CAN tow 8-10 thousand pounds, but for how long? No chance of it going over 150 miles with the air conditioner on. Completely unusable as a replacement for diesel work trucks.
LOL Wrong, very much do 170 Miles with air-conditioner towing 9000lbs. That is a truly horrible power consumption rate about 3x to 4x compared to EV Cars.
There's been some testing with the Ford lightning pulling a 7000 lb RV trailer and it was managing about 0.45-0.55/ Miles per kilowatt hour at 70 mph and less on straight level roads. So this truck would see somewhere around 120 mi for 100% of the battery. And when you factor in that some of these EVs cannot fast charge for more than 60 to 80% of the battery capacity, That's something to think about.
@@ARCNA442 yes the boombox feature that allowed users to randomly play sounds. I am sure manufacturers can get a play list of approved sounds that only play at the times required. My EV currently sounds like dying ghosts. Not so pleasant.
Magna has been experimenting with one. I bet once solid or semi solid state cells arrive in a couple year's or so? Then we'll see real high range crazy towing ev trucks. Gm remember is claiming up to 20,000# towing someday for this in the max tow pack wt trim. 👍🏻
Ha ha RIP, like they’ll be able to mass produce this.. has anyone gotten a Hummer outside of the double priced marked up used scam the dealerships were doing?
