RIP CYBERTRUCK RIVIAN? 2022 Ford F150 Lightning Electric Truck Review Test Drive 

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You mean the future of trucks 100 miles outside of major cities and no where else. They can’t tow worth a shit. It has enough towing for city slickers and that’s about it.

@@BobbyCommas Do you do any towing with a pickup truck?

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You should have mentioned not to buy this truck if you plan to tow. The electric motors are extremely inefficient. You’ll do better with a Model X.

OmG...I remember trying this too. I had no idea what I was trying to do 🤣🤣🤣

You mean like Toyota, Mercedes etc.?

@@MaticTheProto Yes, I’m talking pickup trucks specifically. Doesn’t seem like any of the major brands are doing hybrid and going straight electric (Yes Tundras have the iForce Max but it’s focus is power not efficiency)

@@PROutdoors94 maybe they are hard to make into useful hybrids. I mean most hybrid suvs only have up to 60 km range (except for the new Mercedes GLC which will have twice that) and a pickup will need a much bigger battery to get that range

They don't get the efficiency of full electric. I like PHEVs (or rather, I think REX/range-extenders are a good idea) but they are just plainly not the "best of both worlds." The electric range is pretty minimal, and the actual electric efficiency tends to be a bit lower since the pack voltages are lower. Most people who get PHEVs just wind up buying a fully electric model as their next car because the electric range leaves you wanting more. What I would like to see is Ford ditch the hybrid F150 entirely, and make a version of the Lightning that has a gasoline range extender. Maybe put a smaller 48 kwh "half" battery pack with a 200 km range, and then stick a small 3 cylinder engine/generator in there that can provide about 80 kW of power and boost the range indefinitely. PHEVs kind of suck, they are too much engine and not enough electric, they need to flip that dynamic around, make a vehicle with a decent electric range and then give a basic hybrid functionality for long trips or towing.

@@0hypnotoad0 like the new GLC? 130km ev range, fully electric off road capabilities and 0-100% in 30 minutes for the battery

Drives me nuts.

I'm sure it varies by region, but around me, I'd say at least half of trucks bigger than half ton are used for towing fairly regularly. It's not every day obviously, but still often enough that it'll matter. High spec half tons are rarely used for towing or hauling, though. They're basically just a giant luxury vehicle.

My truck is for towing, my car is not.

Come to Texas you will see trucks actually used how they were intended. Not sure about Austin though, they will be the hippies buying Lightnings

I tow with my Hellcat Durango (not a truck but I think it counts as upspec). 🤷

Sure but It won't be hitting the work truck market anytime soon (contractors, farmers, ranchers, fire departments, and even police departments) Which Ford makes an absolute killing on. Good for the average Joe who doesn't actually do any trucking though.

Amazing is a too strong of a word.

Amazing... Until you try to tow with it

Awesome

Youre coming from a good place but you really think buying a 100k ev truck because you hate gas prices makes sense ? With that logic you can buy a 40-50k used truck and have 50k leftover for gas. And electricity prices are gonna go up up up, especially if enough people buy EVs

@@dwade3202 your still gonna pay $100,000s for gas powered limited platinum or raptor models. Gas prices are constantly going up where I am and they don't look like their going down anytime soon. Electricity may go up in a few years but charging up at home will still be cheaper. Plus you knw the whole global warming thing so yeah still going with the lightning.

@@supersin22 Right but you're talking about how you're using this for furniture so what you need is a base model long bed single cab You can buy a brand new one of those for about 30K or a crewcab for 40k but then you cant have a long bed. Quite simply the batteries aren't there yet to support this being a full time vehicle for most people furthermore once the batteries get to that point you're likely going to have your electricity costing the same as your gas Because most of your electricity is produced by fossil fuels anyway

@@supersin22 "The richest one percent of the world's population are responsible for more than twice as much carbon pollution as the 3.1 billion people who made up the poorest half of humanity during a critical 25-year period of unprecedented emissions growth." Dont worry too much about what you drive, not like 800kg of batteries is ecological anyway.

@@yzrippin like I said I wouldn't be using it for towing, and furniture is once in awhile like when we move or my wife sees some couch or cabinet she wants online lol. Most if not all of our power come from hydro electricity so not really doing much damage to electricity plus I got kids so crew cab is a must. I'm still going with the lightning. And I dont travel far work from home I just take the kids to school and wife to work at most 80kms a day. So it wouldn't be that much of a strain on the truck.

Wish the price difference wasn't so big between the ICE & EV versions. For maintenance you're going to save what, $200/yr in oil changes? You'll still need brakes/tires/etc. As for gas fill-ups it'll still take a few years before you start saving money from not needing gas fill ups. For around town I agree they're great, but on trips I still worry about having to find charging stations and waiting for 40min+ to get charge vs just a couple minutes for regular fill-ups.

Is that the rating for yours or what you actually get? As they say mileage may vary…especially with different driving habits.

@@S8ER mixed driving, mostly highway. Actually what i got. Its the old 4 speed. Hugely inefficient. Also costs a small fortune to fill it.

@@therealcdnuser I wouldn’t be so sure the lightning would do better is all I’m saying. You might find it comparable in the end (for range) you of course would save on fuel. 🍻

@@S8ER even if it was less range it would still be worth it as the Ram was costing me $600/month before the gas hike. My daily commute is 1/3rd of the range so winter is not a concern either. I stopped driving and traded it in during the first year of the pandemic for a used Ioniq. But miss having a truck but found i really don’t need it. Part of me still wants the Lighting though.

My buddy had an old 99' Dakota with a four speed auto, and that transmission must have been full of sand or something, I don't even understand how it could be that inefficient. Used about 18L/100km driving in the city, just ungodly.

XLT model doesn’t have this larger display

I accept no responsibility

I saw one on the Ironworkers bridge in Vancouver, BC. I also almost drove into the partition while looking.

FJB

Hard hitting investigative journalism here

I wanted the pro model so much but now it's gonna be around over 50k with all the price adjustments from Ford which is crazy. And the pro model has the 12" screen instead

Lol wut

@@playerroku4412 from what I’ve gathered, to own a Lightning right now, you either need to be good friends with someone high up at a Ford dealership, have a car review channel, be very lucky, or just be willing to spend 20-30 over MSRP.

@@jordangutierrez93 but but I'm going to save money on gas right around when the batteries take a s*** uv8 guys just don't understand LOL but I am jealous you guys can fill up and go in 2 minutes I'm going to be saving money one day so it's worth the 2 hours sitting in fast charger spot until then haha

@@jasonvuolo2780 I didn’t really understand what you were saying there. Some periods and commas might make your comment more legible

And would have NO value by the time you want to resell. People just don’t want used EVs

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@Frugal Family Living minus all the extra weight from the panels

Just make a solar tonneau cover. 👍🏻

Wouldn’t work at all.

Which is why trucks make zero sense for most people that buy trucks. No one consistently tows anything

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8 year (or) 150,000km warranty. If the first Teslas are anything to go by, the batteries will usually last a lot longer than than. I wouldn't bother with a dealership replacement, if you have a battery issue you need to go to a third party who rebuilds battery packs, they'll do it for a few thousand bucks. Replacing an entire battery pack just because of one or two bad cells doesn't really make much sense, but that's what dealerships will try to do because they don't know how to fix anything on a component-level.

I will never understand why Americans buy these as dailys

It literally cant tow more than 100 miles which is just so awful

It is too early in ev development to try trucks or commercial cars.

They probably did extensive focus groups and research on current owners.

Americans and their weird obsession with impractical daily cars

@@MaticTheProto Tell us Americans why that bothers you so? I'm interested in seeing how honest you are.

@@bfludd843 because it makes no sense. Who needs a pick up?

@@MaticTheProto I don't believe it's mandatory for everyone to buy one. Again, why does it bother you specifically?

It's like people that don't like action movies, commenting on a new action movie. Don't watch. People love to complain and wanna be heard. Maybe a prius review is ur taste

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They factor in for it, most of if not all of those components are cast aluminum or painted.

Yeah cause they’ve not sold any 😅

@@RU-viduser1aa they could have sold 5x more 2x faster - it’s been abysmal. Everything is relative and even Rivian did it better than ford.

Don’t worry bro hydrogen engines gonna change the game

Not everybody tows a boat everyday. It's perfectly capable of some truck stuff, but not all.

So if you drive fast it uses more energy, who knew.

Support basic research in the US. battery tech is way behind because there was no one to fund it.

@@Bigbillyrayfan I do support that. I don't support governments forcing tech that's CLEARLY not ready onto the struggling public. And it being encouraged by people with no dog in the fight.

If you’re at 100% and you self charge you’ll eventually get to 80%

@@TheStraightPipes 😂