Riv and Joel Got Into a HEATED Kevin Durant Debate 

Facts but chokers are player who are constantly placed into win it all situations and fail continually aka cp3, kd, Kyrie, Westbrook, PG-13 and Harden

@@isaacdebeila8085 PG-13 aint a choker you see that last year in the Playoffs he them boys up but he dont have enough help but they still in the WCF and lost in 6 which is impressive

@@dxtremecalibertrue pg-13 is just getting older like everyone else

Nocap 🤣 s**t went viral

When doesn’t he 😂😂

Agree

Cuz he yelling ? 😂😂😂

Ode😂I mean he was yellin a bit too much but he spoke nun but facts

@@AceTheCap823 bro start buggin fr 😂😂 but it wasn’t all fact. Bird, Jordan a couple times, Kareem, magic, Wilt a few times and Shaq…have been swept. If u gonna say a kd aint legendary like them bc he’s been swept it literally makes no sense. Riv gotta try again🤣🤣

Steph definitely deserved that Iggy finals MVP imo

Nothing wrong with being a hot take guy It makes debates more entertaining. That's why hot takes are so popular

Riv is actually an idiot and if you feel like you're living thru him you're weird bro😂😂

@ericsmusic5927. "Hot takes" for hot takes sake, is lying. It's dishonesty. It's not an honest opinion, but a curated and made up one for outrage and views. There is absolutely something wrong with dishonesty. I can't believe I even have to say that.

I’m here after the Suns got swept.

@@Justin683 you got kds nuts in your mouth. Kd wouldn’t have a ring without Steph

@@Justin683 KD a playoff choker that needed gsw to cover up how much of a fraud he really is

@@Justin683 he’s right tho kd has folded most of his career when he the main focus of the defense

3 finals without him

@@treso414 curry has 6 finals under his belt he is 4/2 won 4 and lost 2 to Cavs and Raptors Curry has a 66% win ratio 2015 Curry was great he put up crazy numbers people just don't give him credit cause of what LeBron was doing and Iggy getting MVP we all know should have went to Curry but media and voters wanted to ride LeBron's "Johnson" lol 2022 was all world

Hell no

He's not lol, larry bird, magic johnson are legendary, KD is just a great player

@@Jaycheong95 KD clears those guys ong

@@kennylafortune63 some people can’t separate team accolades from talent

@@kennylafortune63 KD over Magic and Bird. What you consuming? Can I have some?

He said he’s not a legendary playoff performer and that’s true

Another example Game 7 against the Pistons in ‘90, didn’t get the job done.

“I’d never seen anything like it!” - Joel Bayless No no no don’t do that Jooooeeeel!!! - Riv Sharp

@@Justin683 you’re allowed to think kevin durant is as great as you want, but you and Kevin himself need to understand that the majority of the basketball world will have a hard time considering those warriors rings as a super positive thing for his resume. obviously it’s not a bad thing to have two rings and fmvps in your resume, but kd fans have to act like context doesn’t matter when discussing players careers because if they don’t then those accolades don’t mean as much. the warriors did what they were supposed to do and were expected to do when kd went there, them winning those chips wasn’t some tremendous herculean task, that’s jus how it is.

@@jxmmykriminallive KD averages 50/40/90 splits in the NBA Finals. Nobody else in NBA history has done that.

@@chriskeesee7508 And that still doesn't make him a legendary performer nor does it make it more valid.

@@kyletucker3811 That’s your opinion.

I was really wish I was arguing for him😂🤦🏾‍♂️

@@tyyylenolpm me too man's is slow KD definitely a legend

Kd team was wayyy better than everybody else. It doesn’t hold much value when he join a team wit 3 future hall of famers

@@cashmoney5999 5 future hall of famers

Y’all don’t use this against Larry bird doe, he had a hall of fame team

@@etherionoon he got drafted to that team. He didn’t lose to them in the playoffs an then joined them

@@cashmoney5999 y’all sound salty asl, y’all say he joined them but literally Steph went to recruit him because he knew he wasn’t beating Lebron and Kyrie. Plus gsw wasn’t Kd rival, Lebron was. Kd lost to a stacked Miami team in 2012 in the finals. Losing in the semi finals is not the same. Kd had a rival with Lebron, not gsw

Ong

He dose tho u just love Joel 😂😂😂

@@thatboirose5525 or thats a kd burner

Found the KD burner.

He played in another finals at age 23 was 30.6ppg on 55% shit crazy bro kd hate real

@@melorileytv3408 thank u

Yea this guy is a hater but he had a small point

the same reason why lebron is hated so much

@@quameakbarnes LeBron built a superteam but not the way as KD did KD joined a 73-9 team the team that beat him that already have 3 all stars which is crazy and a pussy move and outside of winning a championship in GS he dont do shit since then thats why Kawhi is eclipsing him in the all-time ranking say what you want about mr. Load manage but he won a 2 meaningful rings especially the 2019 one compared to the two less valued KDs superteam rings

KD joined a 73-9 team. That was wild crazy. The hateful part was because that same team came back from a 3-1 and beat him in OKC

@@Justin683 it’s not salt. It’s just you can’t call kd “legendary” in the playoffs, then only bring up great KD moments when he’s on that stacked team. The Legends at one point or another deliver against the odds. KD never has. Simple.

@@Justin683 they’ve both choked plenty. But saying Curry has always had better teams is ignorant. Durant had a great run in 2012 but the thing that separates Durant and Curry is leadership. Thunder consistently had a less out of control Russ early on with Ibaka down low in their primes. Sometimes they had unfortunate injury history, and other times KD didn’t come through in the clutch such as 2014, 2016, and then with the nets. Curry had a comparable cast and actually makes them all better. Including Durant. What was their record again while on warriors when Durant was out ans then when Curry was out ?? Oh that’s right, undoubtedly better with Curry opposed to Durant. He went in, played defense and simply played ball. NEVER doubled. Ever. It was Curry getting the doubles. Durant 1 on 1 all the time? Pffft. We saw them both with comparable squads THIS YEAR go against the same team and had two different outcomes. Even if you argue warriors were better, Curry went off against double teams while Durant couldn’t make a pass out of a double team. Durant is definitely top 15 all time but there’s a reason Curry has conversations about being top 10 and Durant doesn’t

​@johnhancock1362 you are salty

Not quite, MJ didn't win his first playoff series until 1988. Plus I wouldn't consider him losing before then choking, he played great, just lost to better teams

@@cameronpearson3650 I mean fair enough. Can’t disagree but people act like that part of his career doesn’t exist. No career is unblemished and when we are talking about legendary performers nitpicking becomes necessary. MJs career just has less blemishes than anyone else’s.

@@Jester-mc5jq Again before 1990 he played great and lost. 1995 was the closest I’ve seen MJ choke a winnable series, and even then it’s kind of a stretch.

@@Jester-mc5jq FAX Jordan fans only take specific stretches of his career

not in the finals but he def choked in the first n second round

@@edwardsl0524 not true , when his team got right he never choked

@@edwardsl0524 y’all don’t understand what “choking” is

No he didn't he averaged 40 points a game in the first round

I think we’re misusing the word “choked”. But you’re right in this sense, Mike couldn’t even get past the first round through his first 3 years. All them crazy numbers he was putting up and through 3 years he only had one playoff win to show for it

@@Justin683 might be “hating” but he is still speaking FACTS

How is it hate when he ask what he has done without curry? KD fans don’t have answers

@@Justin683 sounds like facts to me not hate.

@@Justin683 I wish you would add content to the situation it makes a huge difference. If lebron was in KD position he would of average 35/15/15 in that series since bron would not be double team Or even the main defensive focus, with content it is a lot easier for a player of his caliber. But you can ignore all this as well it don’t fit your narrative.

@@Justin683 he did. It was 2015. Kevin’s Durant really ruined one of the best rivalries in cavs vs golden state. He made the sport unwatchable for 3 years. I don’t understand why he gets credit for being a 🚌 rider not a bud driver. Just don’t put him at the top and I’m fine. keep him number 15 and above. Also curry legacy > KD legacy

Hating

I have, but they have to be serious LeBron fans

Huh

@@dezz8598 what ?

@@ksuperfly55 and lost. He hasn’t won before or after the warriors. Whereas the warriors have won before and after KD.

@@johnhancock1362 a lot of players lost during the playoffs 🤣…stop acting like he didn’t put up numbers in the playoff win or lose he can’t say shit bout his stat line 🔥

@@ksuperfly55 he literally just got swept and shot under 40 percent from the field and 3 against Boston, lmao Foh

Exactly

Exactly. He is one of the ten best talents the game ever saw. But his legacy and career isn’t top ten. And he should never be put anywhere near MJ Bron Kareem Kobe Shaq etc. he’s not that kind of legend.

Realistically he shouldn’t even be compared to curry

Not once, but twice in the first round.

😂😂facts

Lol easy to hate KD ain’t that dhde

Dude shutup KD a legend

I agree, and after what happened to the Suns the other night well..

He was nonexistent in Overtime, that’s what he’s arguing. He’s good up until when it matters. Legendary players are good when it matters. Yeah he forced OT but he didn’t score in OT either, his last shot was an air ball. If Kobe or Jordan or Bron or Curry ever did that they would get buried bc of the standard their fans holds them to, but they protect him bc he had a great game. He played great for 48 minutes and played absently for the last 5. That’s what his whole argument is.

@@declansmith5324 them “ legends “ you mentioned all had a great team around them … kds team was just barely put together , from coach to player … they barely played all season together and they had no game plan for kd Whats so ever , meaning the dude was bringing up the ball , and creating his own shots and also playing good defense the whole series , he was gasssssssed tf out , and I can tell y’all who bash him either just hating and disregarding a lot of these things or just never played sports in your life , give him a break … if he had some sort of help just like the other legends had he could’ve atleast rested his legs a bit and ended the bucks

So if that was easy what was 2011 finals when it was 3 stars vs 1 and heat was heavy favorites -160 to win series why Lebron choked? It was supposed to be easy for him heat had 3 top players and he choked u mad cause kd didn’t choke on gs and did what he was supposed to do which was not fold and actually win not say not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 see bron said that shit cause In his head he knew that heat team was gonna be unbeatable or so he thought cause 2011 he got smoked

U saying it was easy dude he beat Lebron kyrie and love dude stop it bron was 33ppg kyrie was 29ppg and love was 16ppg so stop with the easy shit dude it’s played out

@@melorileytv3408 u cant be serious. kd joined a team that went 73-9 the season before, the warriors with kd ruined basketball for 3 years there was no competition what are u talking about

@@josetorres7987 it was competition a few series went 7 Nigga so stop lying Dude and he beat Lebron kyrie and love and fool folks was choosing cavs before that series started and when kd smoked Lebron folks wanted to use it’s not fair bullshit like shut up dude it’s basketball y’all grown men be crying like hoes

@@josetorres7987 it wasn’t easy buddy.

Like riv said by stats he looks great but his impact wasn’t there

@@Nurunigo That’s an opinion. The fact of the matter is, he averages 50/40/90 splits in the Finals and was the leading scorer in both of the GS championships.

@@chriskeesee7508 We know the gsw stats but what impact has he made for the nets and thunder besides getting smoked out the playoffs

Nah everyone knows he’s a fraud he’s a bus rider not a bus driver

@@The_king567 "fRaUd" WORDS LIKE THAT IS WHEN YOU KNOW YOU CANT HAVE REAL HOOP CONVERSATIONS WITH PPL , I HOOP AND PPL WHO ACTUALLY PLAYED IN THE LEAGUE GIVE KD HIS RESPECT , ONE WAS "KOBE" , NOT ARGUING WITH AVERAGE JOES BOUT BASKETBALL WHEN "REAL" LEGENDS KNOW KD IS AMAZING..

@@jwalls1223 the truth hurts stop overrating that idiot Durant he wasn’t won without Steph and will never win again he’s a fraud and always will be he can’t lead a team to anything

@@jwalls1223 Tell that to Shaq and Charles Barkley

@@abdulrahamanawudu2096 ASK KD PEERS..

Yeah LOL they even nicknamed Magic as Tragic Johnson 😂😂😂

Major dikeatin

bruh why don't more people understand thats the exact reason why he went to GS in the first place but you're right tho 😂

@@tevanwalker3435 Because they are fair weather fans. KD went thru hell that last half of his OKC run dealing with Russ and his Rise. But KD not being a direct type of dude ppl just ran with he weak narrative but didn't understand he just wanted to play with good players and look at the difference it instantly made. Ppl are idiots tho sooo ya know

Your not kd fan stfu😂

KD should've gone to Boston in 2016. His legacy wouldn't have been ruined and he would've had Brown, Tatum, Rob Will on his team eventually and already have Smart and Horford.

@@mitchgoudreau7670 he wouldn't have won shit tho

He’s literally right lmao

@@reallysadweeb4454 no he's not casual 😂😂

You don't even know sports

@@flash980 aww someone is butthurt

What he say that was wrong?? Lol accept it. Fact don’t care about your feelings. KD is not that dude

@@liamcephus9687 explain to us why he's not that dude? And if you telling me he's a choker.. Dude is literally one of the most efficient volume scorer in the league.

@@liamcephus9687 he used the Memphis and spurs series to discredit him not being that “Guy” but the those teams were better than his and in the Memphis series his second best player was out

@@blentoot9639 because without GSW that most efficient shooter shit wasn't there when it matterd

@@jacobmireles7024 huh? So if KD goes 13/16 shooting and missed the 3 consecutive shots or game winner he's now a choker and 'wasn't there when it mattered'?? LOL this kind of logic doesn't make any sense.