kind of random but thank you for showing gameplay footage while discussing the character! makes for a much more interesting video compared to talking about it while having only the tier list itself on screen, which seems to be the standard
rivals content pog I also like that you kinda "teased" who was next on the tier list based on who you were demonstrating on, and played them on their own stage, very cool details
just a tip for new players don't worry about who to play based off this tier list even Clarien who he ranked as the worst character in the game has many top-level representatives like plastic dinos and back in the day full stream
Oh Really !? Cause I made that mistake playing a ultra low tier with smash and competitively it was unplayable against several match ups , can I play clairen without being outplayed by top tiers ?
@@aegwynn4883 yes easily i would say she's actually one of the best begginer characters in the game she also has many winning matchups against higher ranked matchups and i would say there only true bad one would be sylvanos
@@aegwynn4883Smash Ultimate is very unbalanced, like its still the best balanced Smash out of all of them, but its still badly balanced lol, Rivals has mostly great balance, especially for semi-competitive level of play, and something really cool i find with Rivals’ balance is that you can actually play the top tiers and still have a blast at the game compared to Smash imho, like i detest joker in smash tbh but as a Kragg main i actually enjoy quite a lot playing stuff like Wrastor or Olympia or heck, even Maypul, (oh right i forgot to say i also main Olympia lol but anyway regardless my point still stands), even characters who i wouldnt like to playing in smash and / or that have the same archetypes as in Rivals i find them to be A LOT more fun and playable to be in Rivals than in Smash, like Fox for example i find him to be not really my cup of tea but his Rivals equivalent which would be Zetterburn in this case is still lots and tons of fun to play as, so yeah in short just play whoever you want and if you really feel like tier-whoring lol you can also do that pretty easily, but skill will matter way more in this game cuz the chars are really very closer to each other in terms of both potential and power.
Hodan is my main so I was a little butt hurt by the placement but I do kinda get it, I think Hodans main strength comes into play with making your opponent fuck up on purpose to then punish the shit out of them since Hodan holds a pretty strong edge with his advantage state but that’s only if your opponent MAKES those mistakes in the first place so more defensive play styles he struggles getting in
So he's essentially the Toon Link of Rivals, in the sense where he's still technically a threat because he's about pressuring the opponent into making a mistake, so he can punish off of that.
wrastor was my first rivals of aether character i've played (i think) and its really fun being speedy and incredibly op but its really annoying when you miss some hits and instead of hitting the enemy you get hit instead
So I only recently got into this game (haven't played a platform fighter in like a year or more) after only playing for a few minutes years ago. I am honestly loving it! I do have a point to this, though. I decided to main Ori bc 1) I loved the game Ori is from and 2) wanted the milestone pet reward bc I love birds. As such I decided to play tf out of Ori while farming bots I slowly turned up the level of to knock the rust off and get into practice (currently up to about lvl 6, started at 3 or 4? Only been a day or two), and that's how I decided on Ori as my main bc the gameplay is fun af. And I somehow oops'd into my favorite character having amazing neutral game and the character I want to pocket, Olympia, also having some really good stuff going for her 😅
Sucks seeing the characters I like playing (Clairen, Ranno, and Mollo) being in the bottom half. Especially seeong my favorite character to play being in dead last 😭
Ranno's ridiculous because of his dash attack and extremely easy combos, his interrupting needles and how his entire game is based around tripping people up on inputs which he can almost always capitalize on and combo the fuck outta people. All the characters are EXTREMELY good, they all have flaws to balance them.
Great Tier-List, honestly idk if this is outdated or not but while you were unveiling and talking about the characters in the Tier-List i noticed a few things, well first off while the game is already in a pretty good or great spot balance-wise i think not much could be done without fundamentally changing how the game works on a mechanical level mechanics-wise, like i feel most of the B and C Tier characters could really use shielding as a safer and more non-committalblel approach option at least compared to Parryies to help them up in their rankings, and this is why i think Rivals 2s’s addition of Shields will make a really great impactful addition to the game in a healthy way meta-wise to help the other characters who struggle with zoning or getting in in the game in the meta meta-wise. So yeah in shorts people shouldnt be afraid so much of Shields and grabs and / or ledges in the first place, like alr fair enough that you think zoners getting more defensive tools might be is might be more problematic, but what are zoners supposed to shield when theyre zoning out characters with their long-range moves and projectiles? Its obvious that shielding is obviously a mechanic more meant for rushdowns and helping other slow chars getting in, and grabs are designed to counter that too once you closed the gap distance, then theres ledges which actually fair enough its anyones guess how they will be impacting the game, but with how theyre handled in this game i really dont think we should be having any problems with them, like really you can only grab them and get invincibility twice before touching the ground, so its not like you can really spam and abuse it ledge invincibility like you can in Melee, so thats already been taken care of, and even then Dan can still patch the game to fix stuffs so really no reason to be so pessimistic about it. 👍 Alright i went on a bit of a tangent here lol, but mostly what im saying is that most of the B and C Tier characters could really well use the inclusion of Shields in Rivals 2 and that theyll help foster a more aggressive playstyle compared to 1, like tbh ive seen that Kragg match during that last Heat Wave Highlights in the Rivals Channel and it was mostly just Kragg camping the corner and ledge with his Up-B lol.
Thats the best part about it, it's not that some characters are good and others are bad, it's just some characters are better while some are still good but not AS good if that makes sense
This is a big ask, but are you at all interested in doing like a character breakdown series with a specific emphasis on things you couldn't cover in this video? I think you have a very comprehensive knowledge of the characters in this game, and I'd love to see you talk about them more.
Going to buy rivals next week. I predict my mains are going to be Elliana, Mollo and Olympia or Pomme. Probs gonna pick up Maypul when I feel like tier whoring. My fun chars are prob gonna be Kragg, Absa, Silvanos, Hodan and Ranno (ranno might replace one of the predicted mains in the future). Can't see myself ever picking up Wrastor or Orcane because they look boring. Wrastor honestly makes me mad for what seems to be apparent or discernible reason and Orcane's bair is racist. Will probs try Zetterburn and Forsburn and get bored of the former real quick while getting highly addicted to te latter. So if you noticed my favorite things in a character are zoning and movement options and good projectiles. I usually like my characters to have low attack range with strong and explosive hits or good boxing (hence Elliana, Olympia, Pomme, Mollo, Kragg, Absa, Maypul) but will have a swordie with disjoints as back up as well, bc I like versatility most after that, so will probably have a Clairen. Elliana definitely main, bc movement, powerful hits, zoning, projectiles. IDk much about Mollo actually only from this vid, but I mained TL in smash so thats why I'm interested. Olympia/Pomme bc movement, and me enjoying their attacks. Maypul bc... well. Kragg bc good zoning, low range, powerful hits, good boxing yatta yatta (took a lot of that from me liking TL in smash) Ranno bc cool ninja, also like the idea of a char with good neutral but some hard limitations in some areas. Makes you feel very fluid and versatile but at the same time not braindead and having to think to position yourself well and not end up in a disadvantageous position. Hodan bc monke throw own body to enemy Absa bc idk I wanna hide behind a cloud sometimes and bzz bzz from a distance (Elliana can't fullfil that need in the same way) In case you're wondering if I'm acoustic yea I ask that to myself everyday, hence why im playing Pomme. I think this clears it all. I'm very excited to play this game. The lack of players worries me, especially because I'm from Europe and not the USA. Will update after playing for a while to confirm if these predictions were accurate. As for my final words... Silica should be in the game.
I don't agree with maypul entirely. Her punish game isnt as intuitive as a lot of other characters, she has no good disjoints, her recovery may be able to go high but it's easy to hit her out of the up air when she's doing it, she's combo food frfr, she has no projectile that disrupts, lily is easy as hell to parry, and her approach options are all or nothing. Definitely has the easiest win condition in the game imo tho, seed up air. She also has that crazy speed but it's hard to get used to. Her edgeguarding is amazing. And she has a shoryuken which is badass and canceleable on platforms for extra steez. Personally I think she's definitely S tier but the effort it takes to get to a level to realize that S tier status is more than other characters to reach their peaks. I feel like intuitiveness of play should be taken into account when ranking characters also. That's just a scrub's opinion tho lol
@@xxxxxxxxxx16 brotha learn how to read, I said she was busted just harder to use than the other busted characters which makes her not as good in practice. Everyone drops the character besides a select few, idk if she was really that busted people wouldn't drop her and more people would play her. But it's hard and inconsistent, especially in a game with no shields
ngl kind of did a spit take when you put Clairen at the bottom. Then I realized the only Clairens I fight are SBS and DInos who I face off against on a weekly basis. Gotta account for my own biases there... But everyone knows the worst character is [INSERT YOUR CHARACTER HERE]
@@itsrottweiler9545 Other than that, amazing video. Really informational, I love how you break down each character. I feel like such a noob now hearing your mindset
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@@itsrottweiler9545 rivals is the only fighting game where tier lists are opinion I respect that you don't like Clairen but I personally think she is one of the best, sorry for being harsh though my brain does that sometimes
Also Wrastor, why do you say Clairen is bad because if she gets hit she can "die" right off of it...when Wrastor dies at 70% to much strong smash attacks? Sure, he has a great bait and punish game, but what else? How about after 110% Wrastor's combo game just stops working? For the same reason you say that Clairen has gotten worse as everyone has gotten better at punishing, why wouldn't that same logic apply to a character that literally dies at 65% to Clairen's tipper upsmash on most stages? It just doesn't make any practical sense in a real game. Unless your tier list is entirely theory TAS based, really don't agree.
Everything u said about wrastor had to do w player error. Look at melee fox it's literally the same concept. Wrastor should almost never even be getting hit in the first place. Idk if u watched my video but clairen can't approach, wrastor can, clairen has enormous whiff lag and wrastor does NOT. Wrastors recovery is always good and dangerous while Clairen's is good when she has all of her resources, they are not the same.
@@itsrottweiler9545 I guess your tier list is just pure "theory" / TAS then if that's your opinion. It's absolutely not a realistic take to assume Wrastor shouldn't EVER be getting hit in an actual match. Also, Wrastor's recovery is absolute garbage when he doesn't have any jumps and is recovering from below, it is absolutely not always good and it's one of the reasons you need to be very careful with conserving jumps as Wrastor when off stage or you'll find yourself in a terrible situation quickly.
@@DerpsGW if u cant manage 3 extra mid air jumps an airdodge, slip stream and nado protecting u while landing then thats on on you at that point, not wrastor at all lol.
Not even talking about half of the stuff sk can do momentum mail is like one of the if not most important thing to to get as sk Also gloves can cover ground and plat both at the same time so its not just the same you also haven't talked about how strong sk is offstage when it comes to edge guarding the placement isn't bad but the lack of information is making me mad
@@Sulphur_Gamer yes she does both of her games literally refer to ori as “she” every time ori is mentioned💀 like i don’t think the ori games ever say “ORI IS A GIRL” but if both of her games only ever refer to ori as “her” then i’m gonna go out on a limb and say ori is a she
I gotta be honest, don't understand the Clairen logic at all. Yes, her whiff lag is bad, but her punish game is absolutely incredible and can edgeguard incredibly hard. Also, suggesting that her recovery is "amazing" is an absolutely absurd take. It's definitely one of the worst recoveries in the game. Play a good Kragg as Clairen and have fun. It's literally the reason he wins the matchup against her. No offense, but some of the takes on Clairen here just seem to suggest you don't understand what the character does well at all.
This is so funny, u mad her recovery can't get past one of the best edgeguarders in the entire game? Because EVERY character in the entire game gets rekt by kraggs edgeguards lol. Not only that but u do realize EVERYONES punish game outside of kragg's is broken right? (Which is why kragg excels at edgeguarding). In a game where everyone's punish game is amazing, having so much whiff lag is asking to get destroyed. Lastly I don't know if u saw my entire clairen portion, but I LITERALLY said, her recovery is so much worse as her percent gets higher
@@itsrottweiler9545 If they had such a problem with Clairen being a disjoint character, why didn't they give her whiffable kicks and punches as her approach tools?
