A guy who reacts to being flipped off by getting out of his car and assaulting someone is not a person worth having in this world. She might have even saved other people from being physically abused as a result of defending herself.
Riding a motorcycle already puts you at a safety disadvantage when compared to automobiles. You never know what kind of a nut is behind the wheel either. Flipping someone off today might get you shot at freeway speeds no matter what kind of a vehicle you're using. What he did of course can't be justified. But I have a feeling that her flipping him off was the fuel that lit the fire in this clown. Maybe next time attempt to change lanes and let the "hot head" pass. That's a better option than having to kill someone, even if it was legally and morally justified. Her pulling the trigger saved her life. It will also probably haunt her for a very long time.
Guess the one flipping someone off is worthless too. Act like a mature adult then you don't have to worry about pissing off the wrong one who just rather kill u. Dude using the finger is just as worthless. Rather someone deserves to die or not. Our own actions determine what possibilities could happen to our lives. So if some ahole flips someone off thinking hes a badass and that someone is the psycho to give the finger too and that person shoots and kills someone then i dont feel sorry for any of them acting like childish idiots
Having survived three deadly force encounters during my 30 year LEO career the PTSD symptoms Bre is describing are accurate. This is a courageous young woman and she was wise to decline all media requests for an interview. Never trust anyone from the media, they’ll put their own spin on things and could ruin your life in the process.
Hopefully the org you were a part of provided you the support you needed to fully coep with those incidents (Although, I find it hard to believe they did'.
Sounds like somebody doesn't like honest reporting on shitty cops. I know in that 30 years of being a cop, you saw your "brothers" violate rights, lie on reports, and cheat the system, but said nothing. Funny thing about those one or two bad apples. When you cover for them, they spoil the whole cart. ACAB. This includes you.
For those of you who said that no one stopped to help Bre during the beating, you are incorrect. She was saved by two gentlemen...Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson.
you can tell she's the type to flip someone off.."fucking this, fucking that, holy fuck"..still, that's no excuse for the jerk in the truck to go after her like he did.
He put her in handcuffs for safety until he could assess the situation. Remember she called 911 stating that she just shot someone so the officer responding knew that she had the gun and so it's perfectly understandable that he would cuff her and secure the gun first since the other person was wounded and lying on the ground. So given time the truth came out after all the witnesses were interviewed. Even though she was in the right to protect herself I am still not convinced that her life was in danger to the point to where she needed to use deadly force. This world would be a much more dangerous place if everybody ran around packing guns. It's also concerning to me that you would sit there with a shoulder harness on with your gun in it showing off that way during a RU-vid interview. Do you really need to wear it during the interview like that? Are you afraid she's going to shoot you? I think that packing a gun for you is more than just being afraid in the world especially if you feel the need to where it within view during a RU-vid interview. I would be afraid of you because I don't think that you are quite all there. You think you have the right to take a life? Nobody has the right to take a life. And unfortunately whether this young woman understands this right now or not she will have to live the rest of her life knowing that she killed somebody. She took somebody's life. She will forever ask the question 'could it have been another way?'
That was a very scary incident. I happened to see the incident and stopped to help. The whole thing happened in about 30 seconds start to finish. There was no time to help Aubrey due to traffic and how quickly things escalated. I wish I could have done more. The memory of it all still haunts me and I wasn't injured.
Thanks for speaking out. Your reaction seems very understandable, as I don’t think on the day to day drive we are in a headspace where we expect something like this to happen. It’s also not something anyone can reasonably be prepared to handle such an uncommon and crazy situation.
Hindsight, I was CRAZY for stopping. It haunted me for a long time because there are so many things I would have done differently. I did not see the actual shooting, I saw what led up to the altercation when they were still driving and when they got into the physical fight but I did not see anything after the guard rail/median situation because there was a bus in the way. I heard the gun go off. I wrote my statement like everyone else. I think in total there were probably 6 people who stopped. I happened to be right behind Aubrey's bike when all the movement of cars took place. So I had a first hand view of her sitting on the ground before the cops showed up and then after. Honestly I didn't know who was at fault or what instigated the who thing but after hearing Aubrey's story it makes a lot of sense. I think in those situations you breeze past some details others notice. After putting the pieces together I can understand why no one was charged. I am really glad I got to hear Aubrey's story because it puts into perspective my experience in that situation.
BM H Who are you to tell someone when they felt their life was in danger? Your ‘Instincts’ sound a lot like personal biases that you’ve reimagined the entire scenario through to come to a conclusion, rather than facts.
BM H It’s crazy what you’re mind will think and not think when you’re adrenalized. I don’t know if she’s telling the truth but her statement doesn’t seem all that fishy to me. I’ve not been in the situation where I needed to defend my life with a gun. I have had enough situations where I was in fear for my life and highly adrenalized to know you don’t know what you’re going to be thinking or doing until you’re there. Sometimes you forget obvious things. Other times you surprise yourself with what you think of in a split second.
There is something crazy going on in the minds of drivers of cars and trucks these days where they seem to think it's perfectly normal to take out their road rage on motorcyclists. I carry as often as possible when I ride because of this. Thank you for telling us the story Bre, it means a ton to the rest of the motorcyclists out there on the roads.
I have the pleasure of shooting with Brey on occasion, we are not close but I can say she is a nice, honest person. I wish I could take this experience back for her, it just sucks all around for all parties. That man made choices that changed lives forever, and all over traffic.....
i am a retired p.d. and coming up on two million motorcycle miles ..incidents like this towards motorcyclist are far to common. Bottom line ,the suspect caused his own death.
I'm amazed at how well she handled the media fallout after the incident. Props to her friend for immediately getting a lawyer on the case. I didn't expect to watch the whole interview, but I ended up doing so. It was well formatted and incredibly informative. You're as ethical a journalist as Aubrey is brave, Alex. Keep at it.
Man, that poor girl. Wishing Bree the best in her recovery. Squidtips- I’ve been watching your your case against KC, best of luck man! As a newer member of the motorcycle community I really like your content, you break things down in an intelligent manner and present lucid reasoning behind whatever the issue is. Back to this video, I was floored watching the recount of the interaction. Road rage is such a crazy thing. Again wishing her the best in her recovery. It wasn’t until the end of the video that I remembered my own road rage incident and how it was so similar from a rage perspective. I won’t fill this space with the whole recount but basically a dude wanted to fight me in the middle of the wilderness of Great Smokey Mountain National Park, his wife hanging out the sunroof screaming “NOOOOOOOOO honey!” PSA- get help for your road rage.
Hey thanks! I think everyone I know who has ridden at least a full season has one of these stories around a scary road-rage incident. It's part of why I felt this story was so important to broadcast, so that more people can see and understand a unique experience to motorcycle riders. My next video will be on the cop topic, and maybe the last one prior to a real resolution.
Squid Tips actually my road rage incident took place while I was in my full size truck, if you can believe that. I’ll def be watching for the upcoming vids. Keep up the fight.
I would like to comment to Ms. Bowlin, Aubrey, you did nothing wrong, you are the victim here, please never forget that. And I hope you sue the living sh1t out of that man's estate to cover your bills. Thank you for sharing your story, I ride just south of you in Oregon, as you do, I carry as well. While I have been riding for 30 some years and I too have had a few nut jobs to deal with, I must say I have never had someone get out of a vehicle to confront me like you had happen here. Maybe it's just I have been luckier, or it could be being 6'2" and 300 pounds sitting on a Harley get people to think twice...I don't know. But back to the point, you just can blame yourself, you just can not control someone else's actions or poor choices.
It's sadly such a common situation that almost any rider I know can rattle off a few times something like this has happened to them (Minus the grabbing and head slamming). I don't think she's working on any civil suit, partly because I think she feels bad for the wife, and that she would just be causing more pain to her, which I understand, but then leashes her with the majority burden of the monetary damages. I think she knows logically that this isn't her fault, and that she made the best decision given the circumstance, but people still harass and hound her to this day online in such a way she has disconnected a lot of her social presence and keeps out of places she used to enjoy and feel comfortable in.
I believe it's only right she sue to recover medical expenses and nothing more. It would help to even out any injustice against Ms. Bowlin. The wife will have to deal with her own bad choice.
I am also an Oregon rider with 40 years of riding experience and I concur with your assessment that Aubrey should sue the man's estate to recovery her medical expenses. Aubrey was absolutely the victim and it was a righteous shoot to defend her life. She should not have to be in debt as a result of defending her life and she was both smart and courageous enough to have a firearm with her and use in an appropriate situation. I only hope the viewers out there do not criticize the officer who placed handcuffs on her at the scene. That officer needed to control the person who had the firearm until he could determine what happened. I'm sure he released her from custody as soon as he was able to hear from Aubrey and witnesses. Good luck to you Aubrey and stay safe.
@@shooterqqqq how about the time she lost not working? How about the time she was not able to enjoy her life because of she had to deal with all that crap this guy caused? She defenetly has to take much much more out of his property than just medical and lawyer bills. Yes, his wife and his family will deal with their bad choice, but his property is not their property. Nobody is goung to take property of Ms. Bowlin.
I’ve found it to be very hit and miss. MSM will very often be deadline focused, and looking to package increasingly complex stories into 1-2 minute segments that necessitates leaving out a lot of the nuance. You can find good journalists, but it’s impossible to know who’s going to do right by you in the madness of the initial incident in these cases.
If you are going to talk to the media then you should INSIST on getting a raw un-edited and complete copy of ALL interviews. Maybe even set you cellphone in the middle of the table, recording, and if they balk, terminate the conversation/interview.
There is a balancing act with this depending on your goal. If you want attention to your situation, then local news is usually your best option as a jumping off platform for you, assuming you don’t have your own platform. You can reach out to organizations that you feel will be open to your story, but it can be hard to cut through the noise of other stories. Many news orgs if you impose those types of restrictions will just ignore your story (Unless they have the first scoop) unless you have Teir 1 level news (Which this very well could be).
Pickle’s comment may be about how she would be her own worst enemy. She can’t think straight and she’s impulsive. She appears to say whatever comes into her head and do whatever comes to mind. If she were put in the stand, she’d convict herself on the first question. Video made that clear.
Thank you Aubrey for being brave enough to relive this incident in great detail, I am sure it was completely traumatic and life-altering. However by sharing these real world scenarios you are educating the public as to the risks of riding motorcycles, road rage, and the benefits of carrying a concealed firearm. Great stuff guys, keep up the awesome work Squid Tips!
I live just a minute of two from where this happened. It is getting CRAZY on our roads. I pray this girl gets some support. Thanks for doing this story, both of you.
Traffic is bad here, and there has been no significant improvement in years. The construction on the roads is constant, and takes forever to complete. It can’t be said to be the only factor in these types of situations, but the constant daily frustration many people feel has to attribute to some non-zero amount of road-rage violence.
Every time you ride. There are smart drivers all around you. While the smart ones look out for you, you look for the stupid ones. I see people I need to avoid every time I ride
I always look out for motorcycles and give ample space, but I agree- I have owned my motorcycle for almost two years and have been afraid to ride because of other drives honestly
Ok, I am 100% on this chick's side and I'm really sorry she has been put through this, but the line, "He screamed obscenities at Bree, and she responded in kind." is a hilariously skewed way of saying she cursed him out too! 🤣 Take care of yourself Bree!
Well, she didn't remember specifically what she said, or even necessarily that she cursed, but I think we all have a general idea of what we would be saying, so it allows you to fill in the blanks lol.
Wow.. I'm so glad everything worked out legally and she is ok. No blame on her at all, it seems this maniac was set and would stop at nothing to hunt her down. I wish events like this could be avoided by just lane splitting away but unfortunately more permanent measures are the only viable outcome when an aggressor will stop at nothing trying to cause harm.
It is good that she wasn’t held criminally responsible for what happened, that was obviously a very severe and life destroying possibility, but it’s very hard for me to say that things worked out. When this stuff happens, you can choose to civilly sue the aggressor, but in this case it would end up being the estate/wife, who she doesn’t feel should bear the responsibility of his actions. So now she’s in a weird spot with debt piled up, creditors at her heels, and still feeling the emotional burden of what happened, for something that she couldn’t control.
@@SquidTips It is simple - the estate is not 100% property of his wife, it is just 50%. Plus they have cars. Wife should sell the estate and pay up to 50% her dead husband due or just sell his cars to pay the due.
Don’t u just love how even if your a victim of a crime even if your not at fault even if u have health insurance ur life will still be ruined financially from a situation like that
Road rage on i5 is why I carry a firearm in my vehicle every day. It astounds me how insane individuals get because traffic is not doing what they want. I remember hearing this story shortly after it happened and applauding the unknown female rider that defended herself against a monster. This is why we carry.
I know it's 5 years later, but it was very brave coming out to tell her story. It's a sad reality that things like this can happen to anyone a *somewhat* civilized society. I sincerely hope everyone in this situation found peace, and to anyone that may be experiencing hard times, or know someone that is, talking to someone you trust will help. I also hope people learn how vulnerable we squishy humans are. Protect yourself, and get first aid/cpr certified too. You could save a life, including your own.
Massive respect to her for doing this interview. This couldn’t of been easy. I wonder if talking about this and being able to tell her actual story helped. Not talking to the news and locking down her Facebook was a great idea. I hope she’s doing well.
I can see why Bri felt safe interviewing with you. It was great to hear the incident in the victim's own unedited words. I appreciate the interjections to help me know what happened where her story would have been otherwise unclear. I'm not a big gun supporter type, but I have no doubt her gun saved her life.
Thanks a lot. I realized after talking to her for two hours that we really meandered around topics, so the interjections were necessary to build some kind of intelligible narrative.
Wow. Praying for your healthy immediate & total recovery. I ride a LOT by myself & going back to carrying. You're my SheRo & ALIVE to tell it. Sue anything he might have to prayerfully recoup $losses.
This was an excellent summary. Thanks! I'm sorry that this happened to Aubrey and shame that she has had to suffer so much. Unfair. Of course tragic that the guy killed had to be such an out of control hothead. Not good that he died but what can you do??? Lastly, I *REALLY* enjoy your videos. You're a solid guy, AyyJay!
I just came across this while digging through your channel. I really appreciate you Alex. You’re an open minded, level headed, helpful guy. It’s crazy for me to think that only a couple years ago I would have written off most, if not all, of what you have to say based on some ill placed stereotypes and my extremely one sided/sheltered upbringing. I appreciate that you use your voice, your channel and your perspective to try and better the way humans think and treat each other. I don’t agree with absolutely everything you say, I don’t like your take on everything you put out and I’m sure there are many many issues where you and I would never likely see eye to eye. But you challenge me to think, you have undoubtedly made me see the other side of arguments/issues that I would have never listened to without you. The common ground of motorcycles and guns really was an instrumental tool in opening my mind to other issues. Thank you for being bold, brave and putting yourself out there man.
Just the other week I had a woman exit her vehicle to confront me after she turned left in front of me then blocked the roadway and refused to move her car. I had an escape route down an alley so when she got out I rode off. I'm 6'6" 230lbs. so no idea what she was thinking, but she was in total rage mode, I'm glad she didn't have a gun.
That POS picked on the wrong person. I wish Aubrey nothing but health and happiness. Shitty deal for this young lady. I'm glad you're okay. I would carry in Canada if allowed!
The people of Canada are too laidback and don’t stand up for there rights (that is why you can not carry) And it starts with education. I remember going to class in grade school and High school that matter that a lot of the teachers had an agenda on how to teach children there way and indoctrinating them and I had arguments with them about it and I was told to shut up that did not sit well with me. I had less and less respect for them (not all teachers were like that) but most were. I live in the US for some time now and I fight for those rights that we love. I wish you can have the same I really do GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND BE STRONG
The women interviewed on the short news clip said it ended badly but I think it ended the best it could. You can never stop someone who wants to road rage and attack you so she is amazing for surviving these evil people who can't control their anger.
Wow! You did the right thing, Aubrey. It's unfortunate you having to go through all the pain and suffering that you continue to go through. I know how difficult that can be. Great interview, Squid Tips, and very well spoken, Aubrey. Be kind to yourself.
wow. Good interview and props to Bri. She is a tough woman and I'm sorry she was put in that position. I hope she can wrap her head around this traumatic event and get on with her life; perhaps even use her experience to help others. She is articulate and I thank her for sharing her event. Squid, you did well not interrupting her and allowing her to speak and share. nice work.
Holy fuck! All the best to Bre, that must have been terrifying. I was pursued by someone in a car who tried to run me off the road because I beeped harshly at him for failing to signal his intent to turn. I managed to evade him and that was terrifying enough, I can only imagine what it must have been like for Bre to be actually assaulted, bashed against a barricade and half strangled. I'm glad she was able to defend herself.
Attacking a WOMAN because he didn't like the way she was riding ?!?!?! What a Total F**king Coward...... Well, he WAS a Total F**king Coward. Suck's that you are suffering Emotional Trauma for ridding the Earth of that Vermin ....... Stay Strong Aubrey - YOU ARE A SURVIVOR.
Brey I have a fairly good idea of what you're going through. I've been in a similar situation. Its took a long time to function normally, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. Just keep pushing on, time heals.
It’s been a hot minute, and although I don’t talk to her directly often, I followed her on Instagram and she seems to be doing much better than the moment in time this interview happened.
As a truck driver of 25 years, and someone who hopped on her first bike in 1992, I can confirm that road rage is an issue. I've had incidents that got physical with other truck drivers for something as simple as having to change fuel pumps, because the one I was at was broken... people get too angry, too quickly, over things that really don't matter, often taking out frustration on others that had nothing to do with the person they unloaded that frustration on.. we are all just trying to get home, and to work, it's not worth the rise in blood pressure. I also carry, in my truck when legal, and on my bike. Im sorry she had to go through this, and also feel for the family of the man who lost his life. So much pain and suffering for what should've been a meaningless interaction, not to mention loss of life. I hope that I am never in her situation.
Ohhh, FWIW I suspect it's passed now as a worry but Washington has a one of a kind law that would have helped her had they decided to charge her. If she's still stressed about it maybe this will help if she's as yet unaware. #2 is the one of a kind law, no other State has anything like it. RCW 9A.16.110 Defending against violent crime-Reimbursement. (1) No person in the state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting by any reasonable means necessary, himself or herself, his or her family, or his or her real or personal property, or for coming to the aid of another who is in imminent danger of or the victim of assault, robbery, kidnapping, arson, burglary, rape, murder, or any other violent crime as defined in RCW 9.94A.030. (2) When a person charged with a crime listed in subsection (1) of this section is found not guilty by reason of self-defense, the state of Washington shall reimburse the defendant for all reasonable costs, including loss of time, legal fees incurred, and other expenses involved in his or her defense. This reimbursement is not an independent cause of action. To award these reasonable costs the trier of fact must find that the defendant's claim of self-defense was sustained by a preponderance of the evidence. If the trier of fact makes a determination of self-defense, the judge shall determine the amount of the award.
I think this interview was the start of the long road of recovery. She’s since felt more safe to talk publicly about it, I’ll have some updates about it at the end of my next video.
Interesting interview and scary all at once. I have been riding for 45 years and never once have I had someone stop, get out of their vehicle, and approach me. Maybe because I am extremely careful and recognize I am at a disadvantage on a motorcycle. Other than some flip-offs, nothing at all. Many close calls with cagers not paying attention or being aggressive, I just avoid them. I conceal carry and might have done as she did once it got physical. Being 6'-2" and 235lbs helps to de-escalate many potential situations. It is always best to avoid, deescalate and move on wherever possible, people are nuts. The guy was 60, and attacking a girl on a motorcycle? Good riddance.
I've carried handguns for years. When you carry a lethal weapon you need to be even MORE careful about not getting into confrontations with people. You need to suck up your ego and attempt to AVOID a possible lethal encounter. Period
This seems like a good mentality, and I think this is more or less what happened. She didn't use her weapon until she was having her skull caved in on the side of the road, seems like about the point I would consider a 'Last resort'.
Squid Tips By the time he was beating her up it was too late. At that point the only thing she could have done is exactly what she did. But, when you're carrying a lethal weapon you need to do everything you can when you come upon someone like this to DISTANCE yourself as much as possible. I've ridden (and raced) for about 40 years. Flipping someone off on the freeway is something I would NEVER consider doing. She just added fuel to the already burning flame in this guys anger. She could have turned on her turn signal, changed lanes, and let this clown go by. Hindsight is always 20/20 as they say, but it could have turned out differently if at least one of them wouldn't have lost their cool.
I too walked away from this experience thinking about what changes could be made to laws or MSF courses to prepare riders for this type of scenario, as this is not something that ever came up for me over a decade ago when I did my class. Lane splitting is illegal, so many WA riders never even think of it as an option. If it were legalized and taught, this could have lead to Bre considering it as an option, or never being there in the first place. MSF courses should talk more about road rage, and incident avoidance. They should discuss situations like these to encourage bikers to attempt to ride away from an incident whenever possible, even if breaking a law is necessary. There is a bias that comes with experience, where it is easy to forget what it was like to not have that level of expertise. It's easy to say 'She should have known X or Y', but when you are working in an infrastructure of laws and training that doesn't prepare people for this type of thing, I don't think its fair or right to hold that lack of experience against someone.
Squid Tips Hopefully all riders (and people that legally carry guns) can learn from this tragic incident. I've never been a fan of lane splitting, even in states where it's legal. But that's just me. If I have a choice between possibly having something like this happen or breaking a traffic law I wouldn't hesitate to do whatever I needed to do to get away from the threat. Unfortunately, a lot of people's egos are bigger than their brains and they end up not being able to just LET IT GO!
Yeah, for sure. When I was younger I liked talking a little S and getting into fights. I never wanted to get into a life and death brutal blood bath of a fight, but throwing a few punches then stopping the moment you had the advantage could be fun. Even when I lost, the guy would do the same for me. I figured it was just sort of an unwritten rule. Anyways, the day I started carrying a gun my entire demeanor had to change. No more sarcastic comments. No more standing up for yourself when people are rude. You just keep your head down and keep to yourself. When they say an armed society is a polite society, they're not exaggerating. It's completely changed who I am in public.
Black Dragon sent me here! So thankful she was able to protect herself. Women, you need to learn to run, you need learn to fight, you need to shoot and you need to learn the Law to know which to do. The guy that attacked her, attacked the wrong woman. And I'm thankful she defended herself.
I remember this story well because I also live in WA and am around her age, similar name and have a motorcycle too, but I never saw this video until now. Smart girl carrying a gun, it saved her life
Just a quick response to the intro caveat. To the victim of a random assault like this, the person attacking them has only ever existed as an unstable violent aggressor.
Is there something in the water in Seattle? Two of the three times I was actively chased and confronted by a road-raging driver were in Seattle, and I lived in Atlanta Las Vegas Nashville and all over Texas.
There are some things about big city life that make Road Rage more prevalent. Stay tuned, because my next video is gonna be a monster, and all about that.
Holy shit. That sucks that she had to go through with that. I ride every day and luckily I ride in a place where we have lots of motorcycles so most people in cars are used to seeing us. But there are some people who get triggered on the road just by seeing a motorcycle.
I’m working to research now what specifically about motorcycles creates this anger trigger for some people. I think things like ‘Ingroup bias’ creates situations where people dehumanize motorcyclists as somehow being different to every else in cars.
Yes, I'm sure that accounts for some of it, but there are a lot of riders who are just plain a-holes whose behavior reflects poorly on all of us. I'm sure people get tired of hearing it but we are all ambassadors of the Moto community.
Sure, but I think you could shorthand that statement and say ‘Some drivers are assholes, and we should all be better about that to encourage others to drive better’. The idea that someone riding a bike is different should be what we are looking to remove from these situations.
I want to be clear when I say that she is definitely the victim here and can't be blamed for what she did. But I'd also say this whole thing was likely avoidable by simply getting over as soon as the guy started tailgating. If you can't escape by speeding up or lanesplitting, getting over so they're in front of you allows you to keep whatever distance you need. People like that are dangerous and the best way to protect yourself is to get them the hell away from you.
Part of telling this story is to bring more light to situations like this, as I think they are more common than most people think. There are unique aspects of conflict and road rage when you are on a motorcycle, and it’s hard to prepare for these situations unless you know what they look and sound like. There is a lot of good advice for what could have been done differently to change the overall outcome, which will hopefully be in the back of people’s minds in the event they find themselves in a similar situation.
Why did she pay all those expenses for emergency and lawyer out of her pocket? The dead guy had the truck, they should sell his truck and pay the expenses.
In the American system, you often front those costs and are reimbursed by insurance companies or through civil litigation after the fact (If you are reimbursed at all).
I had a situation where a guy pulled out infront of me. He made a right turn onto the road i'm on that was too close. I knew it was safe for me to swerve into the adjacent lane so I did. Honking as i passed him. The guy decides that the best idea is to get behind me and attempt to ram the rear of my motorcycle. I'm staring at him in my rearview while this all happens and have to twist my wrist to the absolute limit to get away from him. 100% throttle, and had I not noticed and reacted as quickly as I did, he would've hit me in the back and very well could've killed me in the accident. Even with my reaction time and accelerating when I did, he still got within 3ft of me. Then I gesture at him and he gets alongside me, starts yelling out the window. Then slightly slows down at a red light before running it and getting into the lane i'm in (i'm still in the left hand lane from when he pulled out on me) and at the next red light (that he actually stopped at) put his truck in reverse and attempted to run into me again. I'm yelling at him and then flee (cuz he's obviously crazy and has attempted to run me over twice and almost hit me once because of his stupidity) I go around him and he swerves into me again (third time on purpose) and i manage to get away and call the cops. The cops on scene (even though everything was recorded) treated me like i antagonized him (even if i flipped him off, it doesn't AT ALL justify someone trying to murder me with their vehicle) and acted as if the other guy hadn't done anything wrong. Ignored that there were 3 seperate and distinct occasions where the dude used his vehicle as a weapon to try to assault me or murder me. I totally get what she means with the PTSD stuff. I can't go down that road without remembering it (at least a little) and on the bad days my body goes all fight or flight and my hands get clammy and sweaty, getting emotionally distraught and stressed out.
Nice bike. I am a rider, too (Kawa ZX-10R). There are a lot of drivers who hate motorcyclists (bicyclists, too). Fortunately, I have never had a confrontation with a motorist while riding my motorcycle, although I was once run off the road on my bicycle by a cop, no less, and I have been screamed at with no provocation by a couple of motorists while riding my bicycle. I don't know if it would have been possible in Aubrey's situation to just let the SUV pass her before things escalated, but I try to avoid confrontations by letting aggressive drivers go around me if I can't get away from them. That said, I agree that she was justified in using deadly force to save her own life. The driver was unrelenting in his attack on her, and she had no choice but to save herself.
What can you do if you come across a crazy dude that wants to run you down. And then beat the crap out of you she must have been so freaked out. She has been through the Hell then gets cuffed then arrested. What a nightmare. She has to live with what she had to do, shoot a person to save her own life . And pay for her medical expenses. Good luck to her
This poor kid. I'm sorry this happened to her. There is a lesson here; Do not stop, ever. When your on a bike, no car can stay with you. Get the yourself away from potential trouble as fast as you can.
In this kind of road rage situation where some syco is trying to run you off the road in heavy traffic, just lane split and leave the asshole behind. There's no frickin' way any car is going to keep up with me on a bike, regardless of the level of traffic.
I agree but again she didn't think that way and he did get the jump on here in stopped traffic. But it would've ended better for her if she could've ran. But this psycho would've done it to someone else eventually. He got the life he deserved. I wish more women would take the initiative to defend themselves.
After watching the local news I would have said, it appears to have been a mutual dispute. Sounds more like a crazy road rager went too far. Witnesses confirm all that she says. I have good friends that ride and they all have weapons permits. Too many issues for me.
That's one thing about riding I don't like, in incidents of road rage you can't hide in a car like everyone else. You are at the mercy of people like this guy who was totally fine with attacking a woman and trying to potentially kill her. Who knows what would have happened if she didn't have a gun.
Any chance she can sue the estate of the guy that attacked her for damages? I’m sure if they sell his car and other possessions it will go a long way to paying for the damages that he caused to Aubrey.
She could, but Bre expressed that she was uncomfortable with aspects of that idea. You can say ‘Sue the estate’ but the reality is that she would effectively be suing the surviving wife, which she didn’t like the idea of (She didn’t feel the wife should be held responsible for the husbands actions). If she changes her mind on that position, it’s still not a quick or easy process. She’s gotta find a personal injury lawyer, go through the legal process which could take months, and spend all the time and effort required to do so.
@@SquidTips instead of gofundme's there should be lawyermeup's for these situations. What a sweet young woman. Her life has been impacted in a permanent manner. She might still be in fear of retaliation too.
That asshole attacked a girl on a motorcycle 🏍 in front of his wife who he probably used to beat on a daily basis. He left her no choice but to defend her life and now her life has probably changed dramatically all for being a safe driver on the way home from work. Don’t ever feel like you did anything wrong. Bree should never had to go through that especially when she was on a bike and he was in a truck.
Just for general information: She said that she shot the guy with a full metal jacketed bullet. Obviously it worked but is NOT what you should have loaded in your carry gun. Self-defense bullets (hollow points) are designed for full expansion and maximum damage. Because of that they will not usually exit the bad guy's body. Shooting someone with a full metal jacketed bullet risks having that bullet pass right through the bad guy and kill or injure someone else. There were a lot of innocent people on that freeway when the gun was fired. I use full metal jacketed bullets in competition (USPSA and Steel Challenge) and at the range but ALWAYS load rounds designed for self-defense when my life might be on the line. Speer Gold Dot, Hornady Critical Defense, and Remington Golden Sabre are great choices. Most law enforcement agencies seem to use Speer Gold Dots. Take care
Yeah, she specifically stated that she had been at the range the previous weekend and hadn't gotten around to switching out her rounds. I think this further reinforces her statement that she was never specifically seeking out conflict.
Strapping on a firearm certainly doesn't mean that you're seeking out conflict, no matter what kind of bullets you're using. If someone is going to carry a gun they need to be aware that the day they hoped would never come could all of a sudden be staring them right in the face. My point is that we should ALL carry the right kind of bullets in our guns AT ALL TIMES. Things would have turned out quite differently if that one bullet she fired passed through him and killed an innocent bystander. Keep up the good work.
@@plasticapple704 Ehhh passing through is very unlikely and if so even more unlikely it'd have enough energy to do much. But yes, carry proper ammo, a JHP can be twice as effective as a FMJ.
@@snek9353 Your "unlikely" comment has been disproven countless times through well documented shootings. Anyone that carries a lethal weapon has a responsibility to minimize the chance of a bystander being struck by a stray bullet. Carrying FMJ ammo isn't good for you OR the innocent people that might be in the area if you ever have to pull the trigger in the defense of your life. Words like "unlikely" when describing lethal weapons is simply careless. When a bullet leaves the barrel it's not coming back and it's got the shooter's name all over it. Take care and be safe.
@@plasticapple704 "Your "unlikely" comment has been disproven countless times through well documented shootings." - No it hasn't, it happening in a small percentage of shootings is the exact definition of unlikely. "Anyone that carries a lethal weapon has a responsibility to minimize the chance of a bystander being struck by a stray bullet." - An ethical responsibility sure, but not a legal one. "Carrying FMJ ammo isn't good for you OR the innocent people that might be in the area if you ever have to pull the trigger in the defense of your life." - Agreed, so much so that when my brother showed me he was carrying FMJ just a couple weeks ago I immediately gave him a box of JHP to swap out. "Words like "unlikely" when describing lethal weapons is simply careless." - No it's not, it's simply a generalization of odds, and that's all we can do play the odds. Why don't you take your argument to New Jersey where it's illegal to have HP ammo.
I had to do a double take when you said "Bree agreed to discuss the full details of her terrifying encounter with me". At first I was like "I thought the terrifying encounter was with that 60-year-old man, not you"
I said it a million times by now, but I need to say it again: ladies, please, please, get into carrying, people out there take the chance of someone physically weaker to go into their depravities and insanities. This world is too messed up and as sad as it is, a bullet on a mentally unstable dude's head will save you much faster than improving overall mental health.
Hearing this woman's experiences with PTSD had a profound effect on me. I am not sure why. I think I should go get help. The intrusive thoughts. The anger. Seeing the persons face when you close your eyes. This man tried to kill her. He brutalized her. There is no other story for him. I hope she is ok and can live a normal life.
Horrible Story! Without the helmet the way she describes the beating she would have been dead. Without her defending herself she would have been dead even with the helmet. The beating by itself would be more then enough to develop PTSD. Fortunately I live in Rural Illinois where healthcare costs are not nearly as outrageous as it seems in Seattle. It seems it would be a good idea to see what your healthcare insurance covers as well as need for ccw insurance. I hope she is doing well and recovering from a very horrific Experience. I am going to add Investigative reporter to physics professor.
Please riders always be patient with drivers even when they are clearly wrong. That and ALWAYS leave yourself an escape. Same when your stopped at a light behind vehicles. Even when NO roadrage is at play you always need an escape route. And dont bash me for saying "always leave yourself a route of escape".
Before I started carrying a Conceal Carry Weapon I joined USCCA.com. I pay $350 a year in case I involved in a self defense shooting. Money well spent.
I’m so sorry this happened to you Bre. You did the right thing 100%, and I bet you saved more than your own life by killing him. He was a loose cannon.
If the police cleared her and his wife was on the scene. I can believe she was in the right. Self defense is exactly that. Shes lucky to have had a gun. You dont drive erratic, scream and chest bump a women regardless of her driving. Ride safe hope this hasnt stopped her from riding. Cheers.
I'm Army Vet, I know of PTSD. Stay strong, keep positive... And keep positive people are you.... And fuck the rest of them, they are just out to judge and blame someone... Just fuck them and live a positive life it will take time for you to feel better... But the storm will die down.... Chin up and stay strong
It sux to think this even happens. And not just for brie but any rider all riders should invest in some form of camera mounted on their helmet. That way it is a dorm of proof what happens. Bc being traumatized like that is easy to not be responsive or collected to know the whole turn of events. Glad to see that she is getting through this ordeal. Keep pushing through this
It sucks that we have to be responsible for proving we weren’t the reason for something crazy like this to happen. She has been hounded and persecuted by people since the incident, and what could she possibly do to change that? She moves on with life, trying to get back to ‘Normal’, but how do you ever do that with something so traumatic? It seems like normal will always be several steps below what it was before.
Squid Tips I agree with you 100%. It's so messed up. And people are so naive. She wont be the same. I know bc I have dealt with a few close encounters myself. One involving a cop in plain clothes displaying his badge while driving a minivan. Bc of my past I was advised not to pursuit anything because I would be dragged through the mud for something 20 yrs ago not bc of the incident of his rage. I wish nothing but the best for her and thx for ur videos. Keep up the good work
I have PTSD. there’s a medication that’s a “reverse agonist” for adrenaline (makes the adrenaline receptor act in reverse, calming). It’s called prazosin and it stopped my nightmares and though I still have flashbacks, they’re not as common as they used to be
I have nothing but admiration for Aubrey and her incredible survival skills. So sorry she had to endure this nightmare- that dude absolutely got what he deserved. Best wishes as you navigate past the trauma of this terrible day, Aubrey. Stay strong 👍
That's it, I'm carrying protection every time i ride. Especially being a fellow resident of washington state... It's bad enough watching people go dumb in cars
If you’ve seen photos I find it very credible that he knew she was a women from the long hair and small frame on the bike. I can’t say wether or not that had a factor on his anger, but I can imagine that he felt more emboldened (Or at least less intimidated knowing) approaching a women.
James W. Ok how about after he was attacking her and in her face? Did he not know she was a woman then? Right, this dude knew the whole time and I’m glad he’s dead. He was a violent person and the fact his wife sat in the car and didn’t try to stop him shows she herself was afraid of this man.
Nice video and perspective. There's some crazy people out thereand it makes you wonder.. I did find it super weird that both had guns on them during a friendly conversation..
