Roasting YouTubers' Attempts At Music (with HTHAZE) 

you should def listen to alec benjamin

JUST FOR THIS VIDEO i didnt want to say- “this person sucks therefore this song sucks.” because that’s not very fun and i wanted to have the song presented as it is without blind prior judgement. that would be judging the person and not the actual music, and that *wasnt the goal of the video.* explaining here because im getting the same comment a lot. i dont care what you do in your personal life if you separate the artist from the art or not. i usually cant separate the art from artist like most people here. but FOR THIS VIDEO i looked at just the art

@@tanja5335 is there something wrong with alec benjamen? or is it like a genuine i like this person reccomnendation? if you like hum htnak you

ERROR why would there be smth wrong with Alec? I like his music

@@tanja5335 this is a roasting video, I expected the comment to be like a this dude is bad or smth

Jaame

Also I completely missed that I subconsciously wrote a very similar melody to Glad You Came, it irritates me to this day LOL

i liked it

@@JamesMarriott isn’t a melody, like, a very basic thing? You can’t really steal it, it’s like claiming you can steal a color pallet. That or I just don’t know what a melody is

@@JamesMarriott hey man, I once stole the bass line from Waterloo for a tune I composed, we all do it and we all hate it lmao

As a current h&m customer, I can confirm.

LMAO

Me and my girl have a 5 hr playlist of only H&M pop

as a current H&M manager, all we play in the store is 12 hrs of H&M pop.

@@ball1975 you gotta leak that playlist fam

same omg

No fr 💀

Where is the lie in that statement tho 😭

And moments later being called a bitch boy

The fact that I wasn't sure if this was a statement or a joke !!!!!! THE FACT

Right?

This absolutely sucks, yea…but are there emo guidelines or something?? “actually emo” lmao

yes and Gabbie does not meet them.

@@mollykircher3104 🤣🤣

The wall in the background is what I had when I had my first apt in my 20s and thought empty thrift store gold frames were the vibe. pretty sure I tied a stick to a fishing line and put it in one of them because it was ‘art.’ I’m almost 40 now and those frames have all found new homes

noels new solo music is super dope too highly recommend it

@@Cyruseh It's great to see Noel develop his directing too its fun and really well done

Yesss! I love Cody and Noel and they’ve come so far! Their podcast, music and videos in general keeps on improving and I’m so happy for them!

@@dhan07404 pacemaker put me on to his solo music it even makes an appearance in my daily playlist

It's almost as if they really love music and do it for the sake of it and not just fame

totally fair!! just FOR THIS VIDEO i didnt want to say- “this person sucks therefore this song sucks.” because that’s not very fun and i wanted to have the song presented as it is without blind prior judgement. that would be judging the person and not the actual music, and that wasnt the goal of the video. explaining here because im getting the same comment a lot

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As someone that's not a career musician, I agree with that honesty

I work in film and completely agree. We all bring our own biases and ideas to our work, and each person can do what they do with vastly different intent. These biases and ideas influence intent, and I think you should be able to examine the intentions of the artist just as much as the art itself.

@@theKaraProject i think you're either missing or overthinking the point here

Can’t really be edgy when you’re part of the most privileged class

@@jenm1 so you cant be rice and into dark stuff ?.

@@mariahthemarionette6536 pft, I’m _pretty_ sure dark humor ppl eat rice

yonko ????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If we have eachother deserves a grammy. It's very inspiring and perfectly written. A lot of storytelling in such a short time and it also sounds amazing.

One wrong turn from his new album blows me away every single time I listen to it. The set up to the bridge was done perfectly and I gasped when I first heard it.

I went to see Alec live recently and it was amazing. He is such an amazing artist. In my opinion: He has ( one of ) the best lyrics in Today's music industry.

Boy in a Bubble is one of my all time favorite songs. And Must Have Been the Wind gets me hard

Yeah I love his music too, i felt little sad when Gabbie doesn't knw him

Yeah i agree with your point, its more about if the problematic artist themself will still get benefits which could be bad if they donate to problematic orgs as well.

Agreed. I don't know how to feel about say, ppl saying Trump is ugly. I watched another video by this youtuber where she made fun of a stand-up comedian and just felt like it was sad. Maybe not completely in bad taste, but... Idk. Criticizing stuff is fine. But I refuse to put a person down if they're not all there, or a product of boomer culture. Some ppl might like it, and I'm not gonna shame them for it. I can say my opinion, but not haze or spit on them. I don't remember the video she did on stand-up comedians that well but the first guy in the vid felt like she was making fun of the weird awkward kid in school, who might be undiagnosed with ASD. It would have been way more different if she made fun of a privileged, popular, asshole comedian or person. Which is why it's easier for me to make fun of that make-up guy rather than Shane Dawson. I know the majority hates him and looks at him as justifiably cancelled, but that's my current view. I suck at comparisons so feel free to try another. Tl;dr: I prefer ppl making fun of privileged ppl like how Carlin did, instead of how Bill Burr or whoever makes fun of minorities etc.

Yes, because at some point your level of interaction w this person's art isn't going to be so different from the artists other supporters that DO enable their behaviour. You're still pushing this person's career forward.

@@Venomonomonom How is Shane Dawson not privileged?

@@Venomonomonom If you're in the 6-figure range like Jim Breuer--the "comedian" you're referring to in her other video--you're privileged. And given how disabled he made people seem for getting something as mundane as a vaccination? No, he doesn't have a leg to stand on for your assertion that he might have "undiagnosed autism" which is the absolute buzzword of conservative culture anymore literally making comedy into abelism. But go off.

This is actually a good response but I can’t take it seriously because w i l b u r s f o o t

i swear wilbur foot is everywhere

why... your *everywhere*

your username lmaooo

Omg wilba foot

I thought I’d seen you!

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Goat

I also feel dirty when consuming because a lot of artists write about personal experiences so it’s like they’re trying to justify their shitty behavior

Very well said. Art is an extension of oneself, making it impossible to separate the two.

or when the art is one of the reasons why the artist is hated. for example, picasso. He was an abusive asshole and he painted his victims. His crimes leaked through to his art so you can't separate the art from the artist

exactly! libraries are a great way to read books without supporting the author directly

If someone is problematic enough not to deserve your support monetarily or physically, they're not doing anything to enhance your life. You pulling out that DVD for you and friends to watch could mean they get that support from your friends. You illegally downloading things--because it remains illegal even after they're dead--tells hosts who you want, meaning someone has to go to the show/buy the thing/whatever to get it which feeds into the metrics of the popularity someone has and guarantees their next payment. The skyrocketing cost of entertainment has less to do with IP longevity and more to do with covering for widescale piracy--like how fashion designers have to get paid up-front because they don't make direct money off of piracy, but even the level of piracy is a metric that gets tracked for a lot of these artists anymore.

road trip had a catchy chorus and a good instrumental and that's kinda it, and even in the chorus his voice was as flat as it was in the rest of the song, and yeah I mean mask is just not a good song. I hadn't heard the alec benjamin collab until now but from what I heard in this video his voice sounded a lot better than his other two songs aside from that part where he went a little too hard into that indie accent. he definitely has potential, I've seen that since road trip, but he's still not quite there yet. (ps road trip was his first song, not mask, I don't know why they said mask was his first song)

@@speepealette2218 still though, mans is new the songwriting and i still like road trip nonetheless. it’s just a thing where i kinda feel sorry for him that he started trying songwriting with such a big platform already instead of working his way up his the music because the whole world watched him flop and it was a yikes

Not everyone needs to write their own songs and this perfect example of why

@@nailinthefashion i mean they can if they want, it’s just the internet doesn’t have to like them

@@thealmightybucket5930 and so thus if something is posted it can't be expected to be unanimously praised

yeah people are commenting about separating art and artist when it comes to actively supporting their art. this video is about critiquing the quality of the music.

the first recommended video i got is that Jubilee episode with Cody as a featured guest

Wilbur was reviewed in her previous youtuber songs review!

@@carysbebard3690 Oh thanks for the clarification!

"Glad You Came" via Two Door Cinema Club

@@carysbebard3690 Could you send me a link pls?

real ☠️

Yeah. I feel like it's really a case-by-case basis. Like if someone's an abuser vs just being kind of cringy

Yeah I just think the goal of this video was to analyse / critique the music on its own, that doesn't absolve the creators of their past actions, its just not what the video is about

Plus in the case of Gabbie it’s just 2000s pop-punk which everybody and their mom is doing atm cause nostalgia

@@TheVivaciousNerd but they aren’t making that argument a few minutes in.

@@jotunn30 mhm, plenty of people are doing it and doing it better than her, and don’t have shitty track records.

Fr just throw away the video and it's a fucking vibe, you could tell me that Breaking Benjamin's daughter made that song and I'd be like, yeah makes sense

It had a Paramore vibe

@@KMAC-mf4dk it did not

@@Raya-ir4tmbut she doesn’t tho 😭 I’m not a big fan of her but she IS a good singer. Like objectively, she’s a good singer she’s just a bit naturally raspy and you’ll know that if you’ve heard her sing any song other than that genius clip of monster, which she sang rlly well, the only problem was the mic quality

oh yeah i got several songs of hers on my playlists and theyre SO GOOD shjdkakjd

Bro has the energy of an entire corn field

@@maryooowoahh nah i'm cool seems like a prick

he is beige

also there is no truly impartial creation of art. someone's views or beliefs are always going to filter into their work in some way or another

I think both things can be analyzed separately, but it shouldn’t be used as an excuse. Like if someone is supporting a creator for their art but they’re racist/homophobic/transphobic/sexist/ableist/etc, then you can’t just say you’re departing art from artist. However analysis of art by bad people can be very useful such as with classic books, a particular song that may be significant to someone, etc. I appreciate what you said, though. People don’t think hard enough and use excuses to enjoy things without being critical

Bro, agreed. I can't support someone who's morally messed up. I may like your music but once I find out the type of person you are we're done here

but then every person from classic rock was pretty much a bad person too and no one blinks an eye there.

But then… when you like a random song, do you research everything about the person who made it? Do you keep this same energy with every random song you hear? Sounds exhausting

I think they counted mask as his first song because road trip was also technically a collab

no but same tho. i got so nervous seeing his blob in the thumbnail and skipped straight to his part. it's terrifying not knowing whether someone's going to give him a fair shake or just shit on him because he's dream :(

No bc tell me why when he was talking about how they actually lower the pitch when they say change the pitch like that is some genius level analysis and not very apparent. And Gabi was going like "oh, hmm thats interesting" bc she's polite lmao.

I don't understand 😅

@@TheVivaciousNerd cuz homeboy was talking more than she was and talking over her, I had to double check and make sure this was on her channel lol. Still a good video tho

Lil tay with that flex

Check out Quadecca - Sisyphus that shit goes so hard for. “RU-vid music”

Alec Benjamin apreciation post. He's an awesome artist and so underrated. The lyrics he writes are AMAZING. Refreshing and touching. He sends a message. Especially with songs like "If we have eachother" or "Demons" or "I built a friend".

ahh if u love those listen to his new album thats not very new, (Un)Commentary

Same!

^^^^^^

Exactly what I was thinking when reading a lot of these comments

Her latest one's great fun.

Omg confirmo dog hiiii

I've enjoyed a few of her recent songs, she's really rocking it lately.

Yeah, that's a cracking song. I don't really like his style of music much but even I like that one.

Dude really looks like someone mixed Cody and Noel into one person

RIGHT I THOUGHT I WAS CARZY THAT HE LOOK LIKE BOTH BOYS