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ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN 2 (2009) - WTF Happened to this Horror Movie? 

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After his re-imagining of Halloween was finished and released, Rob Zombie wanted nothing to do with the series going forward. The Weinstein Brothers were hell to work with, and Zombie felt too beholden to the events of the original 1978 film. Yet, he had a deep connection to the version of the characters he created and reluctantly agreed to return for a sequel. If only to keep the ship on the correct course and make sure things didn't go off the deep end.
Hoping that he'd be granted more trust and freedom on the sequel after the success of the first was a fool's errand. With studio interference, budget cuts, and everything in between, Halloween 2 was anything but a smooth ride. So what exactly happened? Join us on our latest episode as we dive into Halloween 2 and find out WTF Happened To This Horror Movie?
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@360whiplash
@360whiplash 2 года назад
The movie really lost me when Rob Zombie's wife suddenly appeared as a ghostly, evil spirit on a white horse.
@invaderjae
@invaderjae 2 года назад
Come on, you know he HAS to put his wife in everything he does. Whether or not it makes literally any sense or ruins the movie. He just HAS TO!
@marteenee88
@marteenee88 2 года назад
Self indulgence.... Vanity
@alexandrerodrigues9844
@alexandrerodrigues9844 2 года назад
Same here, I remember turning the movie off after it
@chrislin5588
@chrislin5588 2 года назад
Lori/Angel actually killed Michael in Rob Zombies 1st Halloween. In this film all the scenes with Michael in it are visions from Lori/Angel due to abusing prescribed medication. The White Horse might make since to everyone with that in mind. Also watch the directors cut ending which is a day and night difference between the Theatrical cut.
@gamesthatiplay9083
@gamesthatiplay9083 Год назад
Movie lost everyone else when the movie started with a 20 minute dream sequence.
@bendyblanco350
@bendyblanco350 3 года назад
After realizing the first 20 minutes are a dream, you’re pretty much wondering if the rest of the movie is a giant dream sequence as well. Then after watching it, you hope it is
@garthsegura4440
@garthsegura4440 3 года назад
Oh do you??
@dtower1825
@dtower1825 3 года назад
Haha agree
@NIRVANAmat
@NIRVANAmat 3 года назад
I love this film haha
@LoneLionLeo
@LoneLionLeo 3 года назад
Hope someone makes an edit so the movie is a dream and the hospital scene is what actually happens lol
@timothycrosby4251
@timothycrosby4251 3 года назад
The dream sequence is the only part I liked. I loved the first one though.
@jonathanl9229
@jonathanl9229 3 года назад
The kill scenes in the second movie were really heavy. I still get teary-eyed when the sheriff sees his daughter has been killed by Michael and he has flashbacks of her as a little girl, while he says, “No..no..no…no.” Over and over again.
@dahlialilly
@dahlialilly 3 года назад
As much as I think it’s sad and gruesome, it’s beautifully done. Brad Dourif was amazing in that scene.
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
@@dahlialilly Brad is great as villains or good guys. I actually like it when actors known for playing villains, psychos, etc like Brad and Jeffrey Combs play more good characters.
@squallleonheart3020
@squallleonheart3020 3 года назад
Only good part of the film
@james3414
@james3414 3 года назад
yeah its a *needlessly mean* movie, i dont recommend to anyone. i know its a Halloween movie by Rob Zombie, but its still a mainstream franchise with a wide release. i believe that creates an element of dishonesty between the film and the audience, where we can rightfully expect to be scared but entertained... but in my experience i felt gross for watching and it put me on a downer.
@theneedle6785
@theneedle6785 3 года назад
I loved that part. RZ makes the audience face the emotional consequences of murder and violence, how trauma lingers, like in Laurie's PTSD, her argument with her therapist because ultimately her therapy is useless to address her suffering, it addresses true crime exploitation and how it harms survivors.
@kevinb874
@kevinb874 3 года назад
Nothing will ever top the 1978 original. In my eyes it’s a masterpiece.
@dariantillman7050
@dariantillman7050 3 года назад
You can definitely argue that the 2018 sequel is as good if not a little better. I enjoy both. Rob Zombies first remake was also good.
@travismord4175
@travismord4175 3 года назад
I don't know. None of the Halloween films are that good. Rob Zombie's first movie is the best of all of them.
@canontheory
@canontheory 3 года назад
@@travismord4175 house of 1000 corpses is good, that’s his first movie right?
@travismord4175
@travismord4175 3 года назад
@@canontheory yep!
@canontheory
@canontheory 3 года назад
@@travismord4175 badass movie, devils rejects was pretty good too
@natani___7666
@natani___7666 3 года назад
I genuinely love the opening for this film. It felt great and brutal. Then it was all a dream and then suddenly all the characters are unbearable and Laurie’s hair looks matted and mangy.
@zmbdog
@zmbdog Год назад
Because Rob needs to make every character resemble him. Even the women. I'm surprised he didn't give her a beard.
@meganlee7445
@meganlee7445 9 месяцев назад
I think her hair was supposed to depict the changes that had happened to her and the difficult time she was having. Totally different from the school nerd she was in high school
@gachoman2012
@gachoman2012 3 года назад
“Likes the first half better.” You’ve never talked to me Mr. Zombie.
@hamupinhere
@hamupinhere 3 года назад
I know, why hasn't he talked to anyone who liked neither of the halves?
@nicholas4252
@nicholas4252 3 года назад
Most people I know, including myself, dislike the first half and like or at least don't hate the second half of the first movie. There's elements of the origin story that just doesn't sit right with me.
@gachoman2012
@gachoman2012 3 года назад
@@nicholas4252 It’s okay at best the first few scenes are straight trash. The Smiths groves scenes are decent too.
@Seiryu64
@Seiryu64 3 года назад
An over-explanation of Michael's motivations to kill that feels more like a desperate justification because of how aggressively unlikeable EVERY character is written was easily the worst part of the movie imo
@seannanana84
@seannanana84 3 года назад
My biggest complaint about the remake is it took out the mystery of Meyers and became a text book cliche explination of how one becomes a psychopath. I mean the kid hurt animals had a crap family life and was bullied... I found the whole first half unnecessary. What makes Meyers so unnerving is his lack of motive. I saw the 2nd one at the theater and never saw it again. It wasn't good.
@danderson8431
@danderson8431 3 года назад
Octavia’s death is pretty brutal. She way she screams and cries is very realistic. I remember actually feeling uncomfortable watching it.
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 3 года назад
The knife stabs in that opening scene were terrifyingly violent.
@07foxmulder
@07foxmulder 3 года назад
“Octavia”...so you’re on a first name basis with her?
@roterfuchs8201
@roterfuchs8201 3 года назад
@@07foxmulder In dream sequences im on first names terms with everyone, also I AM THE WIZARDMASTER!
@demonteprice5870
@demonteprice5870 3 года назад
Words can't describe how freaking good of an actress Octavia Spencer is
@twiceshy9773
@twiceshy9773 3 года назад
@@07foxmulder I call her Aunty Ocky😊
@GenoX1987
@GenoX1987 3 года назад
Rob Zombie is only capable of making one movie. Everything he puts out is a variant on that one idea.
@hunterzolomom9480
@hunterzolomom9480 3 года назад
ROb zombie did an insane move with dr satan in 1000 corpse house ending but out of blue he deleted that (maybe the best part) from hes life ? wtf it was close to Dark Eldar (Haemonculus) torture scenario [WarHammer 40K] ....rob zombie dont deserve to direct movies anymore .lol
@keychainere
@keychainere 3 года назад
If he can’t put psycho hillbillies in it, he ain’t interested. Lol
@jbeach12078
@jbeach12078 3 года назад
@@keychainere that's why i'm afraid of whats he going to do to the Munsters.
@hunterzolomom9480
@hunterzolomom9480 3 года назад
@@keychainere exactally hahaha go back to old town road Rob xD
@arthas640
@arthas640 3 года назад
I agree. Hes kind of like a one hit wonder musician (when it comes to directing anyways) and everytime he tries to do anything different he shits the bed. He did 1 half decent hit 1 time and cant do anything else
@tt8807
@tt8807 Год назад
It’s HILARIOUS to me that all us horror fans LOVED the first half of RZombie’s Halloween more than the second half of the film!
@sircharlessir
@sircharlessir 2 года назад
I remember being so excited to see the movie. After watching the movie I left the theater confused...like what did I just watch?!?!
@jdiggitty
@jdiggitty 3 года назад
Rob had an appearance on the Nerdist podcast years ago and talked about what went wrong with this movie. It's amazing it even saw release or was completed. Some of the BS limitations they forced him to work with were crazy.
@idiot_city5244
@idiot_city5244 Год назад
Too bad, it shouldn't have been released.
@gamesthatiplay9083
@gamesthatiplay9083 Год назад
He also has DVD commentary and a behind the scenes documentary in the DVD about what went wrong. One of the most hilarious things was "prop guy decided it was cheaper to build a real wall instead of a breakaway wall, infuriating the actor in the Meyers mask."
@tripendicular
@tripendicular Год назад
Sounds like he’s full of excuses. He just makes bad movies honestly.
@NewBeginningNewCreation
@NewBeginningNewCreation Год назад
Odd, that sounds like exactly what was already said in this video. 🙄
@1bwash
@1bwash Год назад
Yeah but watch a handful of these videos at random and ALL of them are going to have crazy limitations.
@SonnyJim173
@SonnyJim173 Год назад
The cop that finds Laurie walking is one of the greatest actors I've ever seen in a movie
@Scarlet_Officer
@Scarlet_Officer 11 месяцев назад
Aka Brad Dourif.
@xav9258
@xav9258 2 года назад
Zombie didn't set forth any 'vision' for Halloween, that was John Carpenter and Debra Hill!
@dermagnus8482
@dermagnus8482 3 года назад
Just saw both one single time. Absolutely enough. I have seen the originals dozens of times. That says it all.
@BBAERSTANCE1
@BBAERSTANCE1 3 года назад
Yea they are heartless
@ianrotten4453
@ianrotten4453 3 года назад
Oh, you poor bastard. I did the same and 🤔...
@fernie-fernandez
@fernie-fernandez 3 года назад
So how was Halloween: Resurrection, by the way…!?
@jeffpatton2866
@jeffpatton2866 3 года назад
I couldn't even finish part 2. Halfway through I cut it off and haven't watched it since. Worst horror movie I have ever seen.
@rankrodent2772
@rankrodent2772 3 года назад
Original is really overrated..
@zmbdog
@zmbdog 3 года назад
Screw getting shot in the face, somebody ask Zombie how/why _young_ Michael also returns as a ghost!! And how is he able to physically restrain Laurie at one point? Did Zombie just forget that young and old Michael are not different people?
@jfrsnjhnsn
@jfrsnjhnsn 4 месяца назад
No, Rob has said that Michael, mentally, is frozen at that age. He never grew up from being young Michael in his mind. The ghosts of the Mom and young Michael are a delusion that Michael and Laurie are both sharing with each other. That’s why Laurie is being held down by a hallucination.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 3 года назад
Rob Zombie's Halloween movies you either love them or u hate them.
@rodgerlang884
@rodgerlang884 3 года назад
Or you just don’t watch them. That was the choice I went with
@CeeJayThe13th
@CeeJayThe13th 3 года назад
What if you love one and hate the other? Because that's me.
@alexanderwatson1980
@alexanderwatson1980 3 года назад
@@CeeJayThe13th Agreed.
@JennyofOldStones713
@JennyofOldStones713 3 года назад
Eh, not really in my case. I really enjoyed his interpretation of the original film. It wasn’t perfect, but had some interesting elements and was really scary! This film I HATED!
@rhondathompson6942
@rhondathompson6942 3 года назад
@J Brown HE A ONE HIT PONY GOT TO PUT HIS WIFE IN EVERY DAMN MOVIE SHE SHOULDNT SHOWN UP IN THE 2 MOVIE SHE WAS DEAD
@Texan45
@Texan45 3 года назад
The part of Dr Phil, the guest isn't wrong at all...
@willissudweeks1050
@willissudweeks1050 3 года назад
Yeah but that guys worse than Phil in real life unfortunately. Screw Phil and him
@CurtisAlfeld
@CurtisAlfeld 3 года назад
That's the guy who made the Bum Fights videos. Sure, Dr. Phil exploits people, but he's usually doing it to people who have opportunities to improve. The Bum Fights guy was exploiting people with no other options.
@mightynathaniel5355
@mightynathaniel5355 3 года назад
@@CurtisAlfeld they didnt have no other option. but Dr phils show is upfront as well, they apply or reach out and everything is set up before hand and agreed upon. That guy knew he would be on the show and that he would be criticized but he thought that getting the additional attention by being on phil was worth it anyway. its pretty equal and they are actually working together in many ways, like 2 boxers who fight and talk trash but ultimately people buy tickets and they both make great money and business.
@bigal3055
@bigal3055 2 года назад
@@CurtisAlfeld And yet Bumfights was still more entertaining than Zombie's H2.
@rodgerlang884
@rodgerlang884 3 года назад
I love that you get a 13 minute video when the answer is simply “Rob Zombie happened”
@fernie-fernandez
@fernie-fernandez 3 года назад
I guess you’ve ignored Weinstein…
@morganthus6323
@morganthus6323 2 года назад
Maybe actually watch the video
@Teddyluvsbrick
@Teddyluvsbrick 2 года назад
I really enjoyed Rob's version of the first Halloween but the 2nd one was a huge mess. I hated how Dr Loomis does a 180 in his character, especially after being almost killed by Michael in the first one. I also thought the white horse storyline was complete rubbish. The kills were the only redeeming aspect about the 2nd one in my opinion.
@virgie4715
@virgie4715 2 года назад
I used to hate the white horse aspect and believed it was only so Sheri had a role. I still believe it was only so Sheri had a role, but I think it could’ve worked had it been explained more. I think it was a hallucination symbolic of whatever plagued Michael’s mind and how Laurie had that same issue, it just kinda... slowly “opened” by her trauma and her time with him that first night. Idk I think he could’ve done something really interesting with that and add a deeper element.
@iHaveTheDocuments
@iHaveTheDocuments 3 года назад
What he did to Loomis was pretty cringe. Cringe is actually a good way to describe this movie as a whole.
@yamahaguy1732
@yamahaguy1732 3 года назад
@@travzimmerman1340 I agree it had so much potential but then turned into crap
@dong.corleone
@dong.corleone 3 года назад
@I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS Just wait till you see Loomis in the director's cut, he just even more unbearable in it
@UnclePhil1112
@UnclePhil1112 3 года назад
@J Brown not to mention the first movie Zombie made is almost a shot for shot remake of the original 1978 film. Aside form the first 45 minutes.
@my-king
@my-king 3 года назад
I must be the only person who enjoyed these movies from Zombie.
@Sentryman002
@Sentryman002 3 года назад
I liked these movies, too, friend.
@roterfuchs8201
@roterfuchs8201 3 года назад
People (horror fans) get well to snobby & harsh on his stuff, i think it's well good that he makes movies/comics/music always doing something creative.
@cognitivedissonance8406
@cognitivedissonance8406 3 года назад
I like them. I don’t think they’re brilliant filmmaking, but I really do enjoy them. I especially like the atmosphere, the rainy hospital parking lot, the grimy truck stop bathroom. It’s just fun
@roterfuchs8201
@roterfuchs8201 3 года назад
@@cognitivedissonance8406 His attention to detail, set & costume design are my favorite things in his films
@garrettfrey5731
@garrettfrey5731 3 года назад
Nope your not the only one I love his Halloween films too
@bulbies3010
@bulbies3010 3 года назад
I love this movie for how batshit crazy it is, and not being like all the other films.
@NBrook666
@NBrook666 3 года назад
It’s just like every other slasher movie though, nothing special
@misticace9148
@misticace9148 3 года назад
same yo you cant beat these Halloweens
@Luis-ov8eq
@Luis-ov8eq 3 года назад
This movie is fucking awful. It looks like a music video in some parts, like just get to the fucking kills. Too many unnecessary shots.
@Stonetemplepilot45
@Stonetemplepilot45 3 года назад
I enjoy it more than a chunk of the franchise. The directors cut made a huge difference. On the other hand, the theatrical cut was awful
@JasonMyers1212
@JasonMyers1212 3 года назад
the 1st halloween from rob zombie was not bad but the 2nd one was unwatchable
@TheShootersBay
@TheShootersBay 3 года назад
Man I love your channel keep doing what you are doing!
@davebooshty299
@davebooshty299 3 года назад
10:28 In the Halloween 2 commentary Zombie said everyday driving to work , his offices I guess at a time He kept seeing a White horse in a field off the side of the highway and figured it looked Cool , so he tossed it in his movie with no other signifigance at all to the story.
@eklypised
@eklypised 3 года назад
Or a way to get his wife in it
@tobydammit6599
@tobydammit6599 3 года назад
Sums his talent up as a film maker. Does it have meaning to the plot or characters? “No i just thought it looked cool”
@smoothoperator1936
@smoothoperator1936 2 года назад
@@tobydammit6599 Wtf???? Really Man?? That scene was the worst in all Halloween movies history...
@rickvolcano6017
@rickvolcano6017 Год назад
@@tobydammit6599 Lack of talent? No one would pay you to do anything like make a movie or music. Stupid comment
@tobydammit6599
@tobydammit6599 Год назад
@@rickvolcano6017 Hey Rob. Also tarantino is a hack who steals everything. That profile pic is embarrassing for anyone above the age of 18 and not in jr college film school.
@wstine79
@wstine79 3 года назад
My biggest complaint was how the beginning of the movie was just a dream sequence.
@davidthieroff9452
@davidthieroff9452 3 года назад
Agreed. I sorta like the movie but can't get past the fact that the first half hour means nothing. Complete filler.
@stefanfilipovits21
@stefanfilipovits21 3 года назад
That did feel really cheap
@JonnyDarko602
@JonnyDarko602 3 года назад
When I was younger i just thought of it as a memory but then i grew up and realized that makes no sense lol
@filmbuff2777
@filmbuff2777 3 года назад
A dream sequence might have worked better if it wasn't so long.
@rickvolcano6017
@rickvolcano6017 Год назад
@@davidthieroff9452 They are showing you how traumatized she was and that she is not ok after the first movie. Such a stupid complaint. SMH 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@shaneschoeppner2868
@shaneschoeppner2868 2 года назад
Margot Kidder had three franchises under her belt with Superman, The Amityville Horror, and Halloween. And she had great chemistry with Scout 💙🤯🤩
@hollywood21639
@hollywood21639 2 года назад
All I rememberer about seeing Halloween 2 was saying after the ending was "well that fucking sucked". Lol
@kyleh698
@kyleh698 Год назад
Great shit! love your work
@alphantom0657
@alphantom0657 3 года назад
Were they having a contest for the most brutal death scene because they let Octavia Spencer's Nurse Daniels HAVE IT. A lot of victims that get killed in slashers you're like, "That's what you get. You shouldn't have been investigating those noises or having sex in the woods." I think they were trying to contrast Zombie's Halloween 2 with the death of the nurse in Carpenter's Halloween II, but that death felt like overkill. I genuinely felt bad for Nurse Daniels
@markmac2206
@markmac2206 Год назад
kinda like in RZH1 with Danny Trejo's death.
@spatchmo6938
@spatchmo6938 3 года назад
I don't like Rob Zombie's movies in general just because he seems incapable or unwilling to write a likeable character that isn't an evil hillbilly nihilist, but no one should have had to put up with the Weinsteins
@savagedameron1075
@savagedameron1075 3 года назад
“The dream sequence” in Halloween 2 was the best part. After that…smh it’s ass
@virgie4715
@virgie4715 2 года назад
And you can’t even really give Rob full credit for that because that was from the original Halloween 2
@josecat436
@josecat436 Год назад
Original halloween 2 didn’t look that brutal and cinematic lol
@lambknot
@lambknot 3 года назад
I hated what they did to Dr. Loomis.
@stefanfilipovits21
@stefanfilipovits21 3 года назад
The only sympathetic character was Annie. The rest are HORRIBLE. It’s crazy what they did to Loomis .
@multitudeofidols
@multitudeofidols 3 года назад
His depiction in the first film is okay, but turning him into an egotistical publicity hound for the second is one of the biggest "what the fuck were they thinking?" transformations of an established character I've ever seen.
@SlasherIncorporated
@SlasherIncorporated 3 года назад
@@stefanfilipovits21 My thoughts exactly. The Bracketts were the only characters I cared about and sympathized with.
@luiscordova4582
@luiscordova4582 3 года назад
@@SlasherIncorporated and there was no point to their deaths at all, laurie doesn't even see them dead during the rest of the film
@scottylewis8124
@scottylewis8124 3 года назад
For some reason, the Rob Zombie Halloween films give me flashbacks to Ang Lee's Hulk movie. Because both give a sympathetic side of the monster.
@luiscordova4582
@luiscordova4582 3 года назад
They both are cliche backstories though, like they're just recycled ideas
@scottylewis8124
@scottylewis8124 3 года назад
@@luiscordova4582 hmm...
@youtubefan6822
@youtubefan6822 3 года назад
They weren’t too bad of movies. I enjoyed the alternate telling of the two first movies. I still watch them both in October.
@jaredwatt9846
@jaredwatt9846 3 года назад
The first ten minutes was amazing, then ooof. Wife still laughs at me about the white horse
@DaVanillaThrilla
@DaVanillaThrilla 2 года назад
“A filmmaking experience Rob Zombie would like to forget.” It is also very much an experience the majority of fans would like to forget as well. Unfortunately, it is one of the best horror franchises to ever exist. So diehard fans like myself cannot just erase from memory. That being said, I hope it stains his memory just like it stains mine. He always blames the Weinsteins, but the movie was destined to suck just like all of his other movies. He refuses to let someone with talent write his movies, so they are all instantly doomed from the start. He is excels as a director, but he has the writing skills of a teenager going through a rough growth spurt.
@111highgh
@111highgh 3 года назад
I love the Halloween franchise. It's awesome.
@AA-oc3kx
@AA-oc3kx 3 года назад
Rob Zombie's desperate attempts to give his wife as much screen time as possible surely shows in this horrendous display of filth. Vulgar mouth, 70's aesthetic and gore = RZ. I used to think RZ was bad at horror, until i watched Rzh1 and Rzh2, and now i think he is the worst. That's just my views of him as a film creator. Then my view of him personally went down as he lied on a legends' name. never piss off the best, John fuckin carpenter.
@fernie-fernandez
@fernie-fernandez 3 года назад
…So did Halloween: Resurrection did any better…!? Still, I’m surprised you didn’t mentioned Paul WS Anderson & Milla…
@Emulous79
@Emulous79 3 года назад
What are you, a priest? And stop hating on her. It's not hip.
@rolmodel12.
@rolmodel12. 3 года назад
@@fernie-fernandez gaaawwd, seriously! Paul Anderson and Milla = garbage. I like very little (first R.E. is alright, and I think Event Horizon receive's too much hate) of his filmography to begin with, but he can't make a video game adaptation, or write a story, to save his life. Friends in high places HAS to be how he keep's getting funded. I can think of no other reason, as the last couple of his "films" have not exactly been box office smashes. Alright, I am climbing off the soap box. 😏
@rankrodent2772
@rankrodent2772 3 года назад
Halloween 78 is boring and dated imo...
@fernie-fernandez
@fernie-fernandez 3 года назад
@@rolmodel12. I mean jeez, how did Event Horizon and Pandorum failed badly for him?
@rong7496
@rong7496 3 года назад
“The vision” he put forth. 😂🤣
@ericcorley1160
@ericcorley1160 3 года назад
I think Rob miss understood.. most people don't like the first half ....or the second half! Lol.
@dang75790
@dang75790 2 года назад
Lmao
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 3 года назад
I actually liked... most of this movie. And Scout Taylor-Compton makes an amazing Magenta. And weirdly I think Zombie got worse at gore after this. But the downside? What a fucking abusive use of the Loomis character and Malcolm McDowell.
@carterslade8771
@carterslade8771 3 года назад
As someone who loves the character of Loomis, I was initially really upset about his treatment in H2, as well. But you know what, it's actually really grown on me. All of the characters in H2 are characters doomed by fate, wrangled in by inescapable destiny. This actually gave Loomis an arc by having him attempt to distance himself from his fate, trying to prosper, live a wealthy and peaceful life. But in the end, he knows he can't do it, that it is somehow wrong, and he returns to what gives him purpose, dying alongside the monster he felt he helped to create, or put another way, the boy he failed to save. It's the only movie besides the original where Loomis is really explored as a character.
@rhondathompson6942
@rhondathompson6942 3 года назад
@J Brown I AGREE ROB ZOMBIE SUCKS GOT PUT HIS WIFE IN EVERY DAMN MOVIE HE DOSE I LIKE THE ORIGINAL 2 HOLLWEENS BETTER THEN THIS SHIT
@ksander_9712
@ksander_9712 3 года назад
This movie has something really strange going for it, i guess its the dream like atmosphere, the completely different take on Michael and Loomis, the intensity of the violence, and especially the opening act. I really dislike Rob Zombie but if it werent for interference, he couldve actually crafted something unique within a repetitive franchise
@jasonmb9465
@jasonmb9465 3 года назад
I guess I'm one of the few that enjoyed all his movies, I really liked both of his Halloween movies and I'm looking forward to the Munsters..
@Mark-co8gt
@Mark-co8gt 3 года назад
Oh thanks a lot, just ruined my day. Can't believe they'd let him touch the Munsters 😭
@HorrorMetalDaniels
@HorrorMetalDaniels 3 года назад
i need that documentary like yesterday
@WaterborneCamper
@WaterborneCamper 3 года назад
I sat through about half of the first one. I had zero interest in the second.
@dang75790
@dang75790 2 года назад
It was unbearable lol
@majinally3527
@majinally3527 3 года назад
y’all ever wonder if they ever get tired of trying to end michael? like doesn’t that get boring? at some point i feel like someone would just let him win
@thatwilightzone4760
@thatwilightzone4760 3 года назад
Right, and it starts to get predictable, because every killer horror film you know what the ending will be EVERYTIME
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
It's because Rob didn't want to do a follow up, he regarded as a one and done-I agree. But they were gonna do it anyway, so he basically took the money and ran. I remember watching this and going "WTF".
@kiprandom7208
@kiprandom7208 2 года назад
Knowing that Mr. Zombie dislikes 2 it makes that unenjoyable movie more bearable
@ianrotten4453
@ianrotten4453 3 года назад
I can lett everyone at least one thing, Rob Zombie is no John Carpenter...
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 3 года назад
Nooooo......you think?
@RaphaelRemington6969
@RaphaelRemington6969 3 года назад
Neither are you
@norseczar27
@norseczar27 3 года назад
I love 31
@joaopedrogoncalves7741
@joaopedrogoncalves7741 3 года назад
Thank God for that
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 года назад
@@RaphaelRemington6969 I am...
@declancochran2882
@declancochran2882 3 года назад
There is a coterie of internet film nerds who consider Halloween 2 one of the great works of visual art so far this century. While I'm not one of them, it is a hilariously misunderstood film that deserves as much recognition as at least most of the original films. Zombie's love of the possibilities of colour and digital photography is deeply infectious.
@richtifilmpalast5373
@richtifilmpalast5373 3 года назад
Zombie is a pretty good example of an artist that first falls for the (short lived) hype around him and his work and later on starts to believe his own bullshit
@lopirobinson1991
@lopirobinson1991 Год назад
For all the crap Zombie gets for his Halloweens look what he did with such horrible working conditions. The man is a great film maker.
@twiceshy9773
@twiceshy9773 3 года назад
I had no idea they let Rob Zombie do a sequel!! Lol holy crap, now I gotta watch it- I love a "so bad it's good" movie
@luvtv7433
@luvtv7433 2 года назад
it is actually better than the first one, I love it.
@luvtv7433
@luvtv7433 2 года назад
@Lt.Dangle I am just sick of watching Jamie Lee Curtis ruining the movies, she is just a cheesy actress
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 3 года назад
Rob Zombie really made the Halloween kills feel real. I still can remember the scene where the guy gets hit in the head with the bat and his twitching or when he cuts the guys neck off with a piece of glass lol
@nickcds3419
@nickcds3419 2 года назад
That opening 20 min is insane. It shows just how much potential RZ has if he could just stay out if his own way.
@TDW2364
@TDW2364 3 года назад
As illogical as it is Rob Zombie’s original came out in the summer too. H20 and Resurrection as well.
@ryanbenson4610
@ryanbenson4610 3 года назад
I remember thinking this was bull! Couldn’t believe it.
@juliajones2318
@juliajones2318 3 года назад
Yes but H20 was actually a good film lol
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
@@juliajones2318 I remember standing up and clapping at the end of H20. I figured they were done, since they'd basically already killed off Freddy and Jason. Oh I was not happy when Resurrection came out.
@Nostalgicguy2242
@Nostalgicguy2242 3 года назад
Yeah... summer's not a good time for horror, there's gotta be chill in the air for you to feel it
@MinasTsambanis
@MinasTsambanis 3 года назад
How Michael survived after being shot in the face? How about Laurie missing her target and not able to realise that since she was completely off the trails?
@fromunderthekilt6310
@fromunderthekilt6310 Год назад
Happens a lot actually. I’ve heard of many stories of people getting shot in the head, where the bullet bounces off the skull, just grazes, hits the skull but misses the brain and vital arteries…..I do wish they just ended that version with that though. Made Michael actually human foe once.
@JonnyDarko602
@JonnyDarko602 3 года назад
I love that Dr Phil show clip
@gSlover4reel
@gSlover4reel 3 года назад
That was hilarious. "Dr" Phil is such a phony pile of trash
@Dru2037
@Dru2037 3 года назад
He's not licensed to practice, he's a tv doctor.
@DarthPerkins
@DarthPerkins 3 года назад
The guest had a point, but he was there due to an horrendous act. It's a bit like Hitler berating people for jumping the queue.
@LuffyBlack
@LuffyBlack 3 года назад
@@DarthPerkins What did he do?
@DarthPerkins
@DarthPerkins 3 года назад
@@LuffyBlack He made a series of films called 'Bumfights' which landed him in court. Imagine if 'Jackass' was made by sociopaths with no regard for human life or dignity and it's in that ballpark. Don't Bing it, it's pretty grim.
@kayprivate2720
@kayprivate2720 3 года назад
RZ would have knocked a Chain Saw Massacre remake out of the park with Bill Mosely, Sheri and Sid when he was still with us. Doing a gritty backwoods 70s throwback, he would have nailed it, cause he did great with The Devil's Rejects. It's just hard to bring that backwoods, crazy shit show family to a classic like Halloween. However RZ halloween 2 hospital chase, hands down one of the best chase scenes. Nights In White Satin eerily playing in the background, the rain shots. That scene is so good. And Annie's death scene. The shots, fade to black and hearing her scream, then her dad finding her. I cried.
@K2daMFG
@K2daMFG 3 года назад
RZH2 is a classic! Probably, the most brutal and sad murders in any Halloween film. We'll see how H Kills goes...
@K2daMFG
@K2daMFG Год назад
@CJ P. everyone sees it different. I disagree with you, but that's fine, right? Beers for everyone! 🍺
@tomcameron1770
@tomcameron1770 2 года назад
I saw an interview with Rob Zombie, where he talked about making this movie, and the studio kept ringing him saying “we think you should do this” and “we think you should do that” with the movie while he was in the middle of making it. That must of been fucking annoying to have to deal with all of those frustrating things. I might get some flack for this, but I actually like this movie. I think of it as it’s own movie with its own version of Michael. People need to stop thinking of the original, and comparing this version of Michael to the originals version. Nothing beats the original film of course, but this version is on a completely different path to the original film, which also leaves the original untouched, and not compromised. The original film is a masterpiece, but this movie is also a good way to explore different ideas.
@markula_4040
@markula_4040 3 года назад
Rob Zombie is full of shit. Nobody thought the first part of his Halloween remake where he gave us an unnecessary origin story was the best part. I can see why his Halloween 2 sucked so bad based on that delusion.
@damonmcfarland9364
@damonmcfarland9364 3 года назад
if that first 10 minutes is what he calls part of what people liked about part 1.......he an kiss my backside. that crap lost me for the entire film.
@MrGean83
@MrGean83 3 года назад
I like the back story myself.
@Dru2037
@Dru2037 3 года назад
I like the first movie but in the second when he took liberties with the characters he lost me.
@ShaquanFromKP
@ShaquanFromKP 3 года назад
I literally only love RZH for the 1st part with the backstory.... I turn it off after he breaks out. And I'm not the only one.
@NoxMonstrum
@NoxMonstrum 3 года назад
Even Rob Zombie on Joe Rogan admitted he fell ass backwards into filmmaking. I'm amazed he even gets work still.
@idiot_city5244
@idiot_city5244 Год назад
Have you seen 31? Truly hard to get through
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 3 года назад
Fascinatingly I like Rob Zombie's Halloween films. :-)
@gamesthatiplay9083
@gamesthatiplay9083 Год назад
Watching DVD commentary and the behind the scenes documentary explains a lot more.
@tyronereid6094
@tyronereid6094 3 года назад
I'm just so glad they made a new halloween movie. To get this piece of s*** out of my mind.
@ee1yd
@ee1yd 3 года назад
Zzz
@lastonesleft1428
@lastonesleft1428 2 года назад
Facts!!!!! This movie is trailer trash and disrespectful to the og of the genre
@dong.corleone
@dong.corleone 2 года назад
@@lastonesleft1428 get this, out of both the Rob Zombie films, some fans actually give this the MOST love for some reason, just why!?!?
@lastonesleft1428
@lastonesleft1428 2 года назад
@@dong.corleone they probably never seen the og Halloween film to appreciate the true mystique of the shape so they settle for this trailer trash alternate
@WolfkingSybren
@WolfkingSybren 3 года назад
Eventhough I really like RZ H2, I never knew the Weinstein's were so miserable during production...and I was hoping to find that making of-documantary that now I know got lost because of the hectic and problematic shooting/ production. I know a large number of fans hated this raw and heavy sequel, but I always had a thing for H2 being what it ended up being..a Dr. Loomis who became an arrogant exploiter of Michael's story and massacre, but to be fair, Rob Zombie had the guts to go this daring, even to some account realistic aftermath of the characters, including Laurie spiraling down into insanity, and having Annie and Chief Bracket return to live troubled lives since the event of the already known 78/07 storyline. I think just like Halloween III, this movie will be seen as a decent sequel, when the years have passed...because it is a well made movie with some controversial and never attended before looks, actions and gore the 2018 movie used again but suddenly more accepted. I'm sorry for Rob that the movie had so much problems while making it and those damn Weinsteins fucking up because they didn't have enough trust in the director/ writer
@shawnkeith2414
@shawnkeith2414 3 года назад
I LIKE BOTH OF ROB ZOMBIE HALLOWEEN MOVIES ALSO KILLS WAS SAVAGE
@CanImakeamilliondollars
@CanImakeamilliondollars 3 года назад
I actually hated Halloween 2018, Michael's kills were so tame when compared to rob zombie's visceral kills.
@WolfkingSybren
@WolfkingSybren 3 года назад
@@CanImakeamilliondollars now the upcoming Halloween Kills movie is promising to be the most brutal movie of the franchise, however, I'm curious to see how much this movie can be more brutal than RZ H2
@CanImakeamilliondollars
@CanImakeamilliondollars 3 года назад
@@WolfkingSybren I'm actually excited for the new Halloween movie, it looks promising. Fingers crossed.
@WolfkingSybren
@WolfkingSybren 3 года назад
@@CanImakeamilliondollars I am as well! Huge fan of the franchise here and now after that one year delay, I'm so looking forward to the next chapter ( and its Carpenter score)
@sykoticwolf
@sykoticwolf Год назад
I wish he did do more of a RZ version of H2 Remake in the Hospital, I loved how this movie started, had he kept that flow I would of loved watching his Michael tear up the hospital. I was so fucking pissed when she woke up, like I said if he had kept it in the hospital for the majority of the movie, it would of been a absolute killfest.
@cagybarnett2255
@cagybarnett2255 3 года назад
I love his music
@DarthPerkins
@DarthPerkins 3 года назад
If a consummate professional and all-round-good-guy like Bill Moseley walks off set... that means MAJOR problems.
@scottylewis8124
@scottylewis8124 3 года назад
Next film you should cover should be The Final Destination. I'm dying to know how a promising final movie in that series turned into a reviled mess.
@NazarethPriest
@NazarethPriest 8 месяцев назад
Rob Zombie's version was the absolute worse. He reduced Michael's motivation to being from a dysfunctional family. He moved about like Leather-Face, as oppose to the ghostly sleepwalking type boogieman. I guess we could appreciate the visuals, like the mask and the poster. It had good parts, but on a whole it was crappy. It felt like it was geared specifically for a Rob Zombie audience. Rob Zombie's other movies were classics, but HALLOWEEN was Zombie out of his lane. HALLOWEEN was a project for someone who understands how to create an unseen, stalking mysterious dreadnought that moved in and out of the shadows. Zombie's films had killers who were real humans, but very, very twisted. And an element that was ignored in most of the sequals was Michael's eyes. Not seeing his eyes, but just darkness, added to his mystery.
@deadschooled
@deadschooled 2 года назад
I like to imagine the opening scene happened, just 2 years ago. That she was having a nightmare of the night the hospital got attacked the same night.
@jamaaldagreatest2748
@jamaaldagreatest2748 Год назад
T that’s literally what it was wdym
@princevalium25
@princevalium25 3 года назад
I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually quite enjoy both of his Halloween movies. Yes, there is a lot that could have been improved, but I still find them a lot of fun to watch. I rewatch them every year right before halloween
@misterx4757
@misterx4757 3 года назад
Yes
@Nostalgicguy2242
@Nostalgicguy2242 3 года назад
Him having pro wrestler Kane portay Michael in the first movie was brilliant.. especially since Kane is pro wrestling version of Michael Myers/Jason Voorhes..
@christianalexander579
@christianalexander579 3 года назад
@@Nostalgicguy2242 that wasn't kane playing Michael Kane is bald he doesn't have long hair anymore
@MidnightShayd
@MidnightShayd 3 года назад
@@Nostalgicguy2242 that wasn't kane lmao
@Jesus-sg3bi
@Jesus-sg3bi 3 года назад
Rob Zombie 's Michael Myers is played by Tyler Mane.
@shan5963
@shan5963 3 года назад
Sounds like a bunch of excuses because Zombie KNOWS part 2 sucks on every single level possible. Miserable movie.
@TheSummitCove
@TheSummitCove 2 года назад
i actually really like this movie. 1978, then h2, 2018, h20 and then this one, made the top 5 for me lol
@HemaDarshithChandra
@HemaDarshithChandra 2 года назад
It's too good that it's bad I have watched all the Halloween movies this weekend this is the most disturbing of all
@tobyyawn24
@tobyyawn24 3 года назад
He tried to make a Jason Voorhees movie using Micheal Myers.
@interdimensionalsteve8172
@interdimensionalsteve8172 Год назад
Michael and Jason have always been extremely similar, so this isn't much of a surprise.
@TheCosmicFireStar
@TheCosmicFireStar 3 года назад
Not sure how things would have gone if they made a part 3 to Rob Zombie's films, he didn't want to film anymore, they lost momentum, we ended up getting Halloween 2018, we also got its two sequel Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends but they've been held up by COVID.
@yamahaguy1732
@yamahaguy1732 3 года назад
This October we get Halloween kills
@flaccid_hotdog1620
@flaccid_hotdog1620 3 года назад
Hallon kills
@TheCosmicFireStar
@TheCosmicFireStar 3 года назад
@@flaccid_hotdog1620 I just noticed that spelling error thank you for informing me.
@shep6489
@shep6489 3 года назад
I've read the script to Halloween 3D and it certainly is..... interesting. It was written by Patrick Lussier, Zombie had nothing to do with the project itself.
@ee1yd
@ee1yd 3 года назад
forgot I even watched the 2018 one, was that forgettable
@spoot448
@spoot448 3 года назад
Interesting
@lastonesleft1428
@lastonesleft1428 2 года назад
RIP donald pleasence that knockoff version of you is not how I remember loomis “aye lonnie get yo ass away from there”
@RichardWolfe79
@RichardWolfe79 3 года назад
I dig them both. I didn’t like part 2 at first, but I did after a second watch.
@ronaldclayton8347
@ronaldclayton8347 3 года назад
Rob zombies Halloween 2 is a great movie,I think it's one of the 3 best films he made along with part 1 and devil's rejects.
@SchmuckAmok
@SchmuckAmok Год назад
I actually kinda dig Zombies films, even H2. The first one and Devils Rejects makes for a great double feature. I know H2 isn’t very good and most fans hate it but I can enjoy it for the sick take on anxiety and trauma the film focuses on. The whole movie feels like a fever dream. Very artsy, even executed poorly
@AbsentBabyDaddy
@AbsentBabyDaddy 3 года назад
Rob zombie was prolly having a field day when Harvey Weinstein got locked up 😂
@Amy_Ramirez03
@Amy_Ramirez03 2 года назад
Regardless how RZ vision is on H2 I thought it was very entertaining
@blackforge1374
@blackforge1374 3 года назад
These movies, especially the first one, were so g*ddamn relentless, and I loved them just for that. The stuff with the ghost of Michael's mother was the most off-putting part of the sequel, imo.
@savage9693
@savage9693 8 месяцев назад
I actually enjoyed these more than the recent ones
@hogindoz
@hogindoz 2 года назад
The first 20 minutes were really good imo
@ojmcclanahan689
@ojmcclanahan689 3 года назад
I personally enjoy the director's cut of Halloween II. I was happy that it wasn't just the same old shit we had already seen over and over, and I got into the underlining story of madness being hereditary. To each their own of course, but I liked it.
@Stonetemplepilot45
@Stonetemplepilot45 3 года назад
The directors cut made a massive difference, the theatrical was shit
@ojmcclanahan689
@ojmcclanahan689 3 года назад
@@Stonetemplepilot45 I have to agree with you there. The only thing the theatrical done different from the director's cut that I like better is the time frame. In the director's cut it's two years after the events of the first movie, in the theatrical it's one year which I think makes more sense. Besides that, the director's cut is far better.
@NYC_Goody
@NYC_Goody 3 года назад
I enjoyed the first one. Hated the second one. I can't stand that so many fanbases including this one demands remakes or "reimaginings" be just like the originals or else it's trash. That being said, I strongly feel the second one is trash. And not because it didn't follow the Halloween formula.
@ojmcclanahan689
@ojmcclanahan689 3 года назад
@@NYC_Goody You're entitled to feel that way, brother. I also hate the way the fanbases view these films. You can't really please them. If you change something, they have a stroke. If you keep something the same, they call you a hack and, of course, they have a stroke. I think one of the best remakes we ever got was Friday The 13TH 2009, but people complained about that one too. Fuck'em.
@cicolasnage5684
@cicolasnage5684 2 года назад
I agree, but you can’t please anyone. Had zombie went the remake route then he would have been trashed for following closet to the original sequel. He does something different and Still ate shit. It’s like Prometheus: people bitched and moaned about it wasn’t Alien enough, so Ridley Scott gives the fans what they want in covenant and still gets shit. Smh. All in a I liked the sequel.
@-redacted_by_youtube
@-redacted_by_youtube 3 года назад
What happened? Rob zombie happened. The man sucks at making movies. Why they gave him this franchise is beyond me. He made only one ok movie and we all know what that is. Even that is still hard to watch. Stick to making bad music Rob.
@brandonhall4547
@brandonhall4547 3 года назад
The mom horse ghost storyline clearly created to give his wife a reason to be in the second movie ruined it to me. The first one is my favorite Halloween movie
@SammyNail
@SammyNail 2 года назад
I can't locate the interview sadly, but i remember Rob Zombie being on The Howard Stern show after the movie had come out and had talked about the scripts given to him for this sequel. As stated in this video he hated everything he was shown, but in that interview with Stern it sounded as if he was begged to comeback and took what he thought was the best and re-wrote it into what is was. Calling it "A polished turd" I wish i could find that interview because it fills in gaps in the story for this movies production.
@sgtmajor5700
@sgtmajor5700 3 года назад
When is Rob going to do Halloween III: Season of the Witch?
@isaiahholland1816
@isaiahholland1816 3 года назад
Never
@sgtmajor5700
@sgtmajor5700 3 года назад
Can't remake Halloween IV until he remakes Halloween III.
@85wastedyears
@85wastedyears 3 года назад
i always heard he just did the 2nd one for the fat paycheck...
@johnnyjohnjohn79
@johnnyjohnjohn79 3 года назад
I heard he did it so he could get carte blanche on his next movie
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
He did it because they were gonna do it with or without him.
@bloodsweatandbeers9670
@bloodsweatandbeers9670 2 года назад
I totally loved Robs version. was more savage and raw
@MRC_5000
@MRC_5000 2 года назад
you sound like norm macdonald playing death on "family guy"! :-D next to ms. minter's narration i enjoy listening to yours the most.
@Vertigotheatre1
@Vertigotheatre1 3 года назад
Who Is Zombie talking to who said they liked the first half of his Halloween movie better? It was awful, the second half was better....and still awful. Halloween 2 by him is a travesty
@LEATHERDICK
@LEATHERDICK 2 года назад
For some one who prefers 70s and 80s slashers, Halloween being my favorite, I actually enjoy this movie and Im a huge fan of the 2007 remake which always gets hated on and im over here like after i watched it the first time i immediately wanted to watch it again and i dont get that feeling often after watching a movie
@JasonVoorheesFriday13th
@JasonVoorheesFriday13th 10 месяцев назад
He took a risk with this film... and it failed.
@idothisonadaily9978
@idothisonadaily9978 Год назад
4:08 I don’t remember that scene and where do I find that clip?
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