Robert Downey Jr. HATED Iron Man Helmet?! 

We want it back man...

Only problem was that the mask got in the way of his safety and comfort

@@kylief2975Wuss.

Or what they could have done is instead of CGI the entire helmet they could just give him glowing eyes in post and keep the helmet if he really couldn't see

@@NoahSprague cg lights looks bad mixed with practical props. keep the helmet but cg the face mask for accurate cg lighting.

I think he means that they would’ve had to do both. The real thing, plus CGI for the scenes that didn’t show Tony making it. Maybe.

I wish... Though tbh it probably would legitimately be cheaper than what cgi studios be charging these days..

Spared no expense

It may sound logical

It wasn’t real metal or fully functional it just had a paint job and flashing LeD’s

"I told you to think fast, chucklenuts"

funny comment 10/10

An actually funny comment. Rare sighting these days. Take my like brother!

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Yeh nano tech was getting quite boring

@@nunanagajugeo9499for iron man i think it’s fine

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​@@ceshmate1953 it is really boring, especially now that they push it everywhere Everyone now has a nanotech suits and it's just boring I liked it more when the suit was there and not materialized out of nowhere

Yeah, if its done right a costume will always look more natural even though CGI will make things look more smooth. The early suit also helped with looking more basic if can evevn call hes suit that over the mutch more smooth looking Nano suit he got later on.

I absolutely LOVE that first _Ironman_ movie and most of the Ironman scenes from that film remain some of the best in the MCU. ...but to be fair, that very first "suit up" scene in the newly minted Ironman suit did NOT age well _at all._ The cg was SUPER janky and very VERY bad. At the time of it's release (2008) I remember being awestruck. But rewatching that particular scene the flaws are magnified and very obvious.

Not true.

​@deckzone3000 "IMO..." -Not true Oxymoron moment

god that movie is so peak

Totally agree 💯

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Yeah what’s that about? Reminds me of that stupid TikTok trend lol.

@@rizzo-filmsidk copyright???

@@luisn642 reading through comments I think some have the right answer. The clips were likely sped up to fit the RU-vid shorts format and pacing but whomever did the editing didn’t preserve the original pitch. Just sped up the clips, dropped them in and moved on.

LMAOOOOO

Came here to see if anyone else noticed 😂

​@@wolfenstein731 Same omg

Cause it’s obvious not him in those clips

clips are sped up

Trying to avoid copyright claim

They really should bring practical suits back tho

i think its a 50/50 you dont want them wearing the suit the entire time, but you still need them for reference, and it can be important to have scenes where the actor is wearing a full suit because it gives more weight than what cgi would give, its why robert d j had to wear the chestpiece and helmets most of the time because it was the most important spots that needed to look real like with the arms and legs you could just cgi and edit those as need be, its why gwenyth paltrows scene in avengers end game looked so wonky because it was Entirely CGI, they didnt even make a mask mold for her face as reference to make it look right, its why cgi should never be used 100%

The actors who get paid millions of dollars

@@johndawson6057still. It’s not really your decision how much suffering the actor has to deal with per day. If Robert doesn’t want the Practical suits to come back they probably shouldn’t come back.

​@@johndawson6057 And thus gets a say on what he wants to do.

Looked like a actual Ironman suit

But also it's fair that he didn't want to wear a helmet anymore. I mean literally being blinded by your own costume doesn't seem worth it

​@@teneesh3376There has to be a way to meet somewhere in the middle. Maybe slightly dimmer lights and shades. A decent compromise somewhere would've probably helped. Or maybe they tried

​@@bola5671he was paid 45 mil, he should be forced to compromise wearing a helmet.

@@JuicedOnKids I don't disagree entirely. For $1 mil, I'd wear a used condom but he's worth what they were willing to agree on. I do imagine a bright light like that can't be good for his eyes though, which becomes a potential health issue

Right to a dollar tree trash bin

Are you dense? The cgi sucks

@@RockSleeper Brother this was 2008. Compared to those standards I would never say the cgi sucked, heck it'll even go toe to toe against many cgi based movies of today. But the point of my comment and this short was not even about the cgi so I don't know why you are yapping about it. Jon Favreau used as many practical effects as he could and didn't solely rely on cgi. That's why the movie looked awesome. That's what we are all appreciating here.

it’s went down the fast and furious route wdym

​@@RockSleepercgi only sucks when you know it's there 😂 movies are littered with cgi you just don't know it. Saying all cgi is bad makes you look like a moron lol

You think they filmed a movie in 12 days

@@Sharutia bro actually divided 300 by 24

Hacksmitj

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@@MrGermandeutschlightwork math

Sounds like his dress pants are tighter than the Ironman suit.

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But they painted over pratical suit anyway. Every single shot of ironam suit is CGI in first movie.

@@majorbombasit’s not?

Well the CG wasn't as rushed. By the time they were working on avengers movies everything had narrow deadlines which left everything looking like ass

Not without doing the work of being an actor who takes the role seriously, even if it is "just comic books"

It was Terrence Howard who recommended RDJ for the part. Marvel was initially reluctant to hire Downey because of his past struggles with addiction. But it was Howard who convinced the studio to give him a chance, taking a $1 million pay cut and vouching for his pal.

​@@deertee1so that's why he demand his paycheck paid way more than RDJ in Iron man 2? How convenient,so now he's the good guy and RDJ is an a**hole?

he saved the MCU

As as soon as RDJ left, Marvel died again

Yes, but unlike a flashbang it lasted HOURS for many days..😬 doesn’t sound fun

Uploader raised the pitch to avoid copyright.

Who?

Winton

@@JakeyBro69Legendary practical effects wizard who made a lot of the coolest costumes, creatures, and prosthetics in movies. Aliens, Terminator, Predator, Jurassic Park, Edward Scissorhands, The Thing - all his studio. You should look him up. It’s an endlessly fascinating and awe-inspiring rabbit hole. That dude was built different and he left a painful Stan Winston-shaped hole in cinema when he died.

"Sound design."

No, the cgi sucks

I'm your 1.k like 👍

@@RockSleeperthat’s what he’s saying 🤦‍♂️

Yes.

voice acting

Yeah is a bit a weird one... it was the exponential cost! CGI was more expensive BUT was cheaper to achieve the level of "realism" that was increasingly desired at the time, that would cost more and take longer if it was done with practical effects, artists and specialists, multiple models of same thing for different shots massive sets and there construction workers to build them even multiple versions of the same set and re-shoots themselves plus potential theft of those models which often happened and still happens! And you are right because NOW CGI is the 'go to' but they don't but put the money in order to make worth while and it looks shite and jarring after a couple of years! However by just throwing out a bunch of movies like this the make money and they don't care if the movie was bad of look bad they just trying to take care of parents that have no interest but still bring their with kids to see those movies because NOW, it doesn't need to look real! It just needs to sell toys! The opening weekend tickets are just a bonus

Wasn't the early selling point the things you couldn't do without practical effects? There are some things that you never see in old movies because they couldn't do that

Agreed

Downing performance in the Helmet Hud is what sold it. He really does seem like he's flying around and dealing with stuff. Not just looking at a screen and reading lines.

@@TheDalinkwent There was a lot more to his 11 years as TS than shots of him with the HUD. I understand if that's what you enjoyed the most, but that alone didn't make his character the heart of the franchise. He couldn't be in the suit and give his best performance. The CGI was going to take over regardless of what he wanted anyway.

@@dasupertramp5855 My overall point is if theres a distance between Downey in and out of the suit..the whole thing doesnt work. We need to believe Robert is in the suit to sell the danger and action and Roberts performance sells it.

"If you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it." Such a good statement

Spoiled rich actors get what spoiled rich actors want.

@@leftoids.are.cringe Meh, I don't care. He's the one in the suit having to deal with it. It's all well and good to point the finger and call him spoiled, when you're not in the suit having to deal with the problems, first-hand.

@@Jeremiah_Johnson139 Yeah if I was getting paid what he was getting paid, after being handed a second chance at fame/fortune from drug abuse, you’d better believe I’d wear that suit in my sleep. Keep running D for celebs that don’t even think about you though. It’s cute.

​@@leftoids.are.cringeit's not even about wealth dude. It's not practical having a bright light in your face all the time. It's a health hazard and can make you blind

@@chumbopshop Damn, if only he could have asked them to dim the lights or add the lights in post rather than removing the entire practical effects of the suit. Red herring. Next.

Yes, but I’m also willing to accept that there’s some actual verisimilitude going on. In the first movie, he’s wearing the first three marks and just learning how to use them. By Endgame, he’s got years of experience wearing the suits, is on the 85th iteration, and it’s made out of nanomachines, son.

​@falsehero2001 alright that was a very big word I had to Google that one dude 💀

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Excellent points!

@@falsehero2001I was gonna say, the last iron man suit was essentially a second skin, both literally and figuratively.

Tony Stark was always improving his suits, only because Tony learns from his mistakes.

And even the CGI suits looked less fake because they were based on a real practical suit.

@@macmcleod1188 you're kidding right? the cg suits were trash...

@@withered962 no I'm not kidding. There have been movies with much worse CGI costumes because they were based on nothing. At least here they had one original physical reference.

@@macmcleod1188 the last suit looked worst as it was 100% cgi

Yeah bro

The edit is so weird idk why they made his voice like that 😂

​@@HaleyHeartsmaybe copyright reasons? I know that editors change small things like that to avoid copy right strike or something 🤷‍♀️

@@leg1onunkn0wn51 ah that would make a lot of sense, true 😁

​@HaleyHearts or... they've done speeding up on the clip, hense the high pitch as a result of compressing the wavelength

Indeed.. I kept seeing Robert The actor and not Tony Stark the Iron Man.

⁠@@RetroRuin I remember watching a Pink Panther movie expecting it to be a 2D-Real life mix like Space Jam just for it to be about a pink diamond... 💀

guy is probably in the armor for less than 20 minutes in his own solo movies@@RetroRuin

​@guillermo7168 I remember that too💀of some random detective looking for itand the only part that did show the pink panther was the opening

@@guillermo7168THAT SHIT PISSED ME OFF AS KID lmao

I love your comment so much. I was going to make a comment about the voice.

That's clearly Theodore

Lol

😂 best comment

​@@subtlename2873Nah, that's Simon.

probably wouldve been a pain to track onto the eyes and wouldnt have looked great.

@@tomcat7493 well, after seeing the first Iron man again, i can see that the cgi budget really wans't so great, compared to other movies like transformers that came on the same time

He can't see clearly when you're gone, gone, gone

@@caasieu the feck you on aboot mate

@@tomcat7493I mean probably not… just look at Spider-Man and Deadpool’s eyes that are all CGI and the mask eyes actually move. It would be really easy for them to just add the lights into the eyes w CGI

Same goes for Spider-Man. Original trilogy is the best.

Which scenes? Because there were scenes where the whole suit was CGI.

@@godconvoy yeah enhanced on the suit he was already wearing

​@@demonslugeryeah, like when he was flying

That makes zero sense. Helium is used for leak detection.

⁠@@konflict1231you don’t know anything about how things work in real life life kid, just go and keep playing fortnite instead

@@blakbear6528Damn😂😂😂

Can’t find anything about this, did you make this up?

@@blakbear6528he’s probably right though

Exactly

They could have just hired a stunt actor to learn RDJ's mannerisms and have him do all the suit scenes. Would have saved millions

I thought the same thing after watching lol

Iron Man has famously been using nanotech in his suits in the comics for a long time.

Iron Man armor model 29, a.k.a the Extremis Armor. First appearance 2005. It was essentially the first sort of nano-tech/compressed-tech suit that he had in the comics and it was 3 years before the first film even released. So no, RDJ isn't the reason anybody has anything in the MCU, it's all just showing people shit that existed in the comics already... Furthermore, going from physical props to CG overlay is infinitely better for both the actors and the filming process as it reduces the amount of cuts you need to make for everything to look seamless, and the physical props need a bunch of editing done to make them look "right" anyway so they're not just 1:1 using the thing and showing us how it looked on set.

They should’ve use a real nano tech helmet or something?😂

@@Noa_persico I'm not sure what you are getting at. Nano-tech or not, the problem is that they don't add size that match the thickness of the helmet. Even if it's nanotech, it has to still build up a thick layer so it actually has rigidity and strength. So this is why the suit looks so much better in the first movie, because it is made based in a real suit built up around RDJ's body. It's a similar story with e.g. Master Chief's armor in Halo. The only armor that realistically makes sense is the one from Halo 4, as that one is the only one bulky enough to actually fit a human inside of it. While I love and prefer the looks of the Halo 2 and 3 armor, the size of the person inside that suit has to be very skinny.

​@@Wistbacka I totally agree with you. I hate how thin those "costumes" are. It just doesn't make sense.

Its a fkn movie 🤦‍♂️ not that serious

@@Wistbackawhat you said is false

In the 2nd and 3rd he still wore the chest plate and the helmet but not the rest

lol you should Rewatch those movies

It was a mix.

Watch the behind the scenes. He never used a fully practical suit. They used parts of it and the rest was mocap suit+CGI.

@@The_Curious_Cat, depends. What suit are you talking about. He did wear some of the full suits a few times. There were also multiple versions of each type of suit.

Japan would be like that

@@Tefezilla Kazuo Niibori. Nuff said

Yea and everyday blue collar american workers go through much worse 6-7 days a week than, "omg my headgear is uncomfy"

In japan there's always at least 3 ongoing production that makes consistent, if not borderline eccessive (real iron chains, anyone?) use of their abilities Hell, they are head-to-head with italian actors playing the mobster, for amount of yearly roles!

@@serPomiz Iron Chains? Kiva reference?

Meanwhile all the new actresses are basically prn stars

He never really left bc in spite of his drug use, he was always professional and still got given parts to play. The odd disparity between the 2 states of being were much discussed in Hollyweird, yet it was proven time and again. He lost plenty of roles as well from studios not wanting to take the chance but he is the only one that didn't let his personal life ruin his professional life. So at least he had that going for him.

Are there other varieties of helium?

I mean, he traded up to the nano suit by that time. Kinda difficult to make that shit irl for a movie set 😂

Your “garbage” if you’d rather someone be extremely uncomfortable for your entertainment.

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@@k7l3rworkman97 well part of what the director and producer would like to go with, is just like garbage man being surrounded with trash for our comfort, not nice but someone has to do it

Eh, it was way better in endgame

They sped it up so the pitch is much higher than his actual talking voice

​@@MaTe-du2lwyou people meatride him until he messes with your precious fake superheroes cgi

I'm sure the iron man suits were not cheap to make. So not spending alot of money on cgi makes sense.

@@MaTe-du2lw I would imagine it's like looking directly at the sun, but on the smaller scale over the hours. Especially I assume that they have taken over dozen takes. Moreover, he cannot see outside of the helmet. That's a massive hazard for his eyes.

RDJ 😅

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Yeah that's what he said. Do you have anything to add?

Wow we watched the same video

sped up and they didn't pitch down

Me

That's what I'm saying. Half a billion dollars almost while we can't afford rent and he wants us to listen to how bad he had it. "I had to wear a hat. It was kinda uncomfortable. I even sweat once! Plus, there were some lights in my eye. I told them that it was totally not worth half a billion dollars! Imma go cry!😢

@@StinkyGringo Thanks for posting your comment. Saved me some time.