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Robert M. Pirsig on Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance and quality, Minneapolis, 1974 

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Minneapolis College of Art and Design, May 20, 1974
A transcript of this talk also appears as the introduction to On Quality: An Inquiry into Excellence, a new book of Pirsig's unpublished and selected writings.
Credit to Kinji Akagawa for arranging the talk.

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@whitewitch44
@whitewitch44 Год назад
This man is a legend. No other ways to put it. I'm in awe of him and his mind, and I'm so glad that there exists some recordings of him speaking like this. Just priceless.
@blucat4
@blucat4 Год назад
I agree, after reading the book 4 times since 1995, now I get to see and hear him. He's much more easygoing and lighthearted than the book makes him seem.
@jrkovar
@jrkovar 9 месяцев назад
Me too
@nnnnsaakadamanas218
@nnnnsaakadamanas218 3 месяца назад
@@blucat4 almost as though he comes across as though he's speaking from a pulpit
@blucat4
@blucat4 3 месяца назад
@@nnnnsaakadamanas218 He sort of is, in a way. People loved the book and are almost in awe of him for writing it.
@nnnnsaakadamanas218
@nnnnsaakadamanas218 3 месяца назад
@@blucat4 I'm quoting the video
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 Год назад
Also, if anyone's interested, I just became aware of this link to a 1974 interview by CBC's Tim Wilson. The interview starts at 6:50. www.cbc.ca/player/play/2623057085
@littleshubunkin7926
@littleshubunkin7926 2 месяца назад
Thanks, Ted, for keeping the flame alight. You should be very proud of your dad''s achievements.
@jeffs92
@jeffs92 Год назад
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance changed my life. I've given away at least 20 copies to friends and family in the 10 or so years since I've read it. If this is really Ted's account - I hope you know how much your dad meant to everyone. Cheers to one of the greatest philosophers of all time!!
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 Год назад
Heh -- I understand the concern. There was a fake RMP twitter account that some folks thought was real.
@e00d20
@e00d20 Год назад
how did the book change your life if you don't mind sharing, friendo
@abdousayed3485
@abdousayed3485 Год назад
I'm also curious in which way the book changed your life?
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Месяц назад
@@abdousayed3485 Maybe a swap from quantity (materialism) to QUUALITY (of life too !)
@DebleeThree
@DebleeThree 3 месяца назад
I read this in my early 20's and then forgot his words. Im 76 now, going to get another copy and re-read It. This opportunity to hear him in person rounds out the picture and brings closure in a sense. Thank you so much for posting it!
@mhopwood1
@mhopwood1 6 месяцев назад
Not only did he survive his own mental health issues, he also survived the harmful "treatments" they gave him, and then he went on to leave us books that help us deal with the trauma-inducing world of today. Thank you Bob.
@TranceofHaterd
@TranceofHaterd 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, his book,is my all time favoute book, it saved my live.
@BunnyUK
@BunnyUK Год назад
I first read the book in the mid 2000s, I never thought I’d see the author give a talk - thanks for uploading!
@captainjamesmcbride2344
@captainjamesmcbride2344 Год назад
Brilliant Ted, thanks for sharing this with us all. This book did what it said on the cover for me. It changed my life and the way I thought about things. The dog eared old paperback copy I have is one of my treasured possessions.
@endian675
@endian675 Год назад
Same here!
@source4magic
@source4magic 26 дней назад
Thanks Ted for posting this. I wrote a letter to your Dad in the 90’s and he wrote me back. He sounds like a Minnesotan.
@littleshubunkin7926
@littleshubunkin7926 2 месяца назад
Great that this lecture exists.
@londonirishfella9562
@londonirishfella9562 4 месяца назад
I simply can't describe what Robert Pirsig and Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance mean to me. It's the highest compliment I can pay him and the book.
@carolingwholeo
@carolingwholeo Год назад
That is the authentic unique Bob Pirsig I knew. This is a treasure.
@mainulislam6765
@mainulislam6765 Год назад
You knew? :O
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 You BET mate !! Its a shere SENSATION !!!
@elijahwilliameby2030
@elijahwilliameby2030 Год назад
How did you know him?
@garnetmountain5163
@garnetmountain5163 2 месяца назад
After the 50s and 60s when bikes and those who rode them were either outlaws or clowns, this book was such a breath of good air. I read it before long trips, last one around lake superior.
@steve-e4q
@steve-e4q Год назад
Thank you for posting this Ted
@pauljohnston
@pauljohnston Год назад
what a beautiful session and video. Many thanks for posting!
@T-goet
@T-goet Год назад
This 56 yr old is a wee late to the party. I read Zen for the first time 4-5 years ago… then Lila… then both of them again recently🤯 My humble philosophical interests started with Hess-Glass Bead Game. But Pirsig/Zen/Lila ❤️ Truly grateful to see/hear Robert speak. I have spoken a great truth😌 Thank you so much for posting!👊🏻❤️🫵🏼
@cryptohalloffame
@cryptohalloffame Год назад
I actually corresponded with Robert in 1999, he reviewed my thesis on knowledge, and wrote back on a postcard, 'D, I didn't define quality as the interdependence of opposites, you did.' A great man, I followed his work very closely.
@littleshubunkin7926
@littleshubunkin7926 2 месяца назад
I think it's clear from this lecture that what Pirsig was alluding to - Quality - was higher than any dialectics.
@simonandrewmacarthur8127
@simonandrewmacarthur8127 8 месяцев назад
I first read this book when I was in my teens - more than 45 years ago - maybe about the time this video was shot. I honestly believe it changed my life. I’ve read it again countless times.This is the first time I’ve seen him speak. He gave so few interviews.
@endian675
@endian675 Год назад
The first copy of this book that I had (and still have) had the phrase "This book will change the way you think and feel about your life". That was the understatement of the year: in my life there are the Before ZMM times and then the After ZMM times. This interview was so amazing. RMP tries to keep it low-key at the beginning, not get too emotional or involved with anything. And then the Q&A starts! Usually Q&A in these things is dreadful, but you can see RMP get really fired up about the subject, debating with his audience, and really showing his mind and how it thinks. It's in those moments that, for me, it was so clear where the book and its message came from. An amazing man, hugely undervalued by the world.
@Kensington007
@Kensington007 Год назад
First read this book as a 12 year old. I was attracted by the cover: A work-scarred, wrench with a flower growing out of one end of it. The opening first chapters completely captivated me: Road trips, motorcycles; internals moving parts within an engine or within ones mind; camping in the bush (woods) or beside a lonely road. Fantastic! After this it became very heavy going; like knee-deep mud that one wades through to get that big mud-crab you just know is lurking beyond the next mangrove tree. However, like the author intoned, I stuck at it, and so to this very day, I still see, vividly, the very kernel of what he was trying to drill down upon. I see it in many things; and because of my way of thinking, also feel the discomfort he went through to unearth it. "Some times it is better to journey than to arrive". I would have loved to shared a few rums with Mr. Pirsig around a campfire. Oh the world problems we could solve, eh?
@jrkovar
@jrkovar 9 месяцев назад
Make that three glasses, campfire bartender.
@goteburgigram
@goteburgigram 4 месяца назад
I was always different. Around 1982 at 14 yrs old I heard about this book from the cocaine snorting, pot growing, highly successful sales rep with a sexy wife who my mom worked with and we house sat for. In his house I found this book. I was obsessed with motocross riding, rode daily. Read this book intensely. Highlighted parts. My older cousin who was an early pioneer in computers and had a deep connection to Christ loved the book too. I went on to get 3 college degrees, raise highly successful kids, and now ride a Moto Guzzi. I think about this book often. Thank you.
@waleedch7266
@waleedch7266 Год назад
I made a ritual out of it. I knew this video was going to be an experience. I went to my favourite cigar bar. Sat in a quiet space. Lit my cigar and just heard him speak, and felt his voice to be intellectually nourishing and generous. I read both ZMM and Lila last year and have been swept away by his words and vision(s). I cannot imagine a life without his voice anymore. Like other folks have said, this video was a gift, and is a gift to those who have read and learnt with Pirsig. Thank you for uploading it.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
He is such a humble and friendly and gentle (see his smiling!) human being. And he cares about the fate of humanity (I mean the noble core of it) His works prove that VERY deeply. I wish everybody was like that . . .
@danielj1063
@danielj1063 Год назад
Don't smoke, but I do have a cubby hole in which to read for delicious, long periods of intrigue
@noahlenten8360
@noahlenten8360 2 месяца назад
gay lol
@antokindness
@antokindness Год назад
Thank you very much indeed, mr Pirsig: your father changed the lives of many occidental people who read his books and I feel honoured to be able to express to you my infinite admiration for his effort (his ART).
@jokinaspiazu
@jokinaspiazu 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Ted, for sharing this talk. As a Software Quality professional, a biker and a father, I find his writings to be inspiring. Your father had quite a life, and he left a legacy for anyone bothering to read a good book. This is more than many men will accomplish in a lifetime.
@xdfckt2564
@xdfckt2564 Год назад
Wow. I finally have a face for the book I've underlined and dog eared and taken notes so many times over. Wow.
@CarmonBenford
@CarmonBenford Год назад
Better yet, a voice
@MikeRelfMusic
@MikeRelfMusic Год назад
So great to hear him speak in person. Also wonderful to hear the foreshadowing for Lila, with talk of the ‘slips’ and the dynamic/static differentiation… What a gift Pirsig was. Two of my desert island books for sure. 🙏🏻
@MrNoahTall
@MrNoahTall Год назад
Please, what's your other?
@MikeRelfMusic
@MikeRelfMusic Год назад
@@MrNoahTall Both of Pirsig’s books. Z&MM alongside Lila. 🙏🏻
@malakiblunt
@malakiblunt Год назад
I found it funny how he said the slips were so simple - i rember reading Lila and being blowen away by the complexity and sheer overwhelm the slips elicited in me- im still in awe of how he could do that -
@jrkovar
@jrkovar 9 месяцев назад
Yes! I got a little thrill when he spoke the word “dynamic”.
@aladinfox4098
@aladinfox4098 2 месяца назад
i thought i was in a rush to get out the house and do things and I came upon this talk, I am still here.
@gerryrafferty7500
@gerryrafferty7500 4 месяца назад
Totally changed my life , read it when I was 16 did philosophy and after did medicine and became a psychiatrist , nearly 60 and still ride a bike
@skidfrog
@skidfrog 6 месяцев назад
I read this book in my early twenties. I've worked my whole life as an artist ( and motorcycle nut ) and now 40 years later this lecture seems to make perfect and absolute sense of most of my life hahaha .
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 6 месяцев назад
Here's a 2008 interview with John Sutherland that just went up on youtube recently: www.youtube.com/@artofmotorcyclemaintenance111
@dazmalski
@dazmalski 3 месяца назад
Excellent, thank you!
@iankclark
@iankclark Месяц назад
When I read this book fifty years ago I had no idea what it was about. I'm currently reading his book Lila a second time. This video is a treasure.
@orang1921
@orang1921 3 месяца назад
my brother gifted his book to me and i have only recently read it; truly one of the greatest texts i'm sure i will ever read
@tillwurfel7878
@tillwurfel7878 Год назад
I read ZAMM some 10 times - a life changer indeed. Thank you for sharing.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 one of my favourite ALL time reads . . .
@TomGraham-mk2wl
@TomGraham-mk2wl 6 месяцев назад
Just finished reading 'Zen' about an hour ago. What a truly wonderful book.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Месяц назад
Welcome in the wonderful ZEN camp mate ! A whole world will open up for you
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
Bobs famous book is about QUALITY and I urge everyone to read it d e e p l y !
@rushelm8101
@rushelm8101 11 месяцев назад
The book is life changing.
@aqualityexistence4842
@aqualityexistence4842 Год назад
Thank you for this wonderful gift.
@aqualityexistence4842
@aqualityexistence4842 Год назад
Thrilled beyond words, actually💗💗
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 6 месяцев назад
@@aqualityexistence4842 👏 🙏 🤝 👍
@littleshubunkin7926
@littleshubunkin7926 2 месяца назад
@@aqualityexistence4842 Beyond words. That's the trick! 🙂
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
Bob really is a GREAT american/world treasure (imho)
@quixodian
@quixodian 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for posting this video. I've only read the book once, around the time the video was made, but it made an indelible impression. He's a really affecting character, so direct and no-nonsense and wonderfully honest about the creative struggles he went through.
@ac9559
@ac9559 Год назад
I have a few things in common with Mr. Pirsig, sadly genius is not one of them. But I recognized his. The truth knocks on the door....and What is good Phaedrus...are two of my favorite quotes.
@Gynnemo
@Gynnemo Месяц назад
Thank you for making this video available.
@wurmholewizrdree3475
@wurmholewizrdree3475 Год назад
a copy of ZAMM came my way whilst riding around northern India on an Enfield Bullet back in '95. Ive read it many times , there is so much meat in there and its a pleasure to read again and again ...as with Lila. How amazing to see him like this at this time in his story. Thanks Ted.
@jrkovar
@jrkovar 9 месяцев назад
I finished reading Lila today for the first time and then found this video. Nice day for me
@valentinius62
@valentinius62 Год назад
This is great. It's also cool that some of the snapshots from that 1968 trip with his son and friends are online. (I wonder if that 8mm home movie footage of them taken by the couple with the very white legs at Yellowstone still exists? That would be something to see!).
@122gogreen
@122gogreen Год назад
thank you so much for posting this!
@brianstillman4026
@brianstillman4026 Год назад
This is amazing. Thank you so much.
@itamarb8111
@itamarb8111 Год назад
The Best Gift Video Ever !!!
@levous2
@levous2 Год назад
This is spectacular! Thank you for sharing.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 absolutely ! Never thought of ever meeting Bob this way ! Been reading his books for years now. Wonderful advices for life itself (especially about the worth of quality) He is a real GREAT personality ! A WORLD treasure !!
@pedroscalese
@pedroscalese 4 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing, Ted.
@Yeahv
@Yeahv Год назад
Awesome upload, thanks. Hope there's more!
@user-mirrorsights
@user-mirrorsights 3 месяца назад
正在阅读您写的书,中国版《禅与摩托车维修艺术》
@narayanrj
@narayanrj 2 месяца назад
Impressive work on human transformation!!!
@xdfckt2564
@xdfckt2564 Год назад
Comes out of a mental hospital and they don't give him a teaching job. Rofl. These days if you get out of one, you'd be in Congress and the WEF in no time
@gentlemensguides
@gentlemensguides Год назад
Touching to hear the emotion in his voice when he said he was trying "to be a useful person" at 12:44. I'll have books done this year that talk about excellence: one is for individuals and will be my life's work, and the other is looking at US government policy could be looking through that lense.
@cecilcharlesofficial
@cecilcharlesofficial 9 месяцев назад
Definitely: he'd been in the position (post break down) of experiencing what it's like for no one to think you're qualified to do anything. He'd probably had deep worries himself, fears that he'd never get back to some degree of mental stability.
@neilcalhoun8616
@neilcalhoun8616 Год назад
Incredible.
@patstarkey8289
@patstarkey8289 Год назад
fabulous to see this . was reading a passage from Lila to a friend last night... and suddenly this came around . thanks for uploading it .
@davidvanderbeek9794
@davidvanderbeek9794 Год назад
I got the book when i was about 22.. completely absorbed in it, read it seven times and it opened the door for an interest in Philosofie for life! Very nice to hear the writer speak, so neutral and completely clear in his message. One of the greats 😊
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 6 месяцев назад
Welcome David to an infinite realm !
@chrisknotz1984
@chrisknotz1984 Год назад
Real genius do and create. They don’t obsess over others creations.
@VidSontest
@VidSontest 4 месяца назад
Great to see the man behind the book I read on a motorcycle trip to Southern France about 20 years ago. It felt like a perfect balance between reading and riding...trip down memory lane seeing this!
@wurmholewizrdree3475
@wurmholewizrdree3475 Год назад
wow , thanks for putting this up .,
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
His lesson about the pernicious v a l u e r i g i d i t y alone is a BIG gem !!!
@malakiblunt
@malakiblunt Год назад
Love ❤🧡💜💔❤‍🩹❤‍🔥🖤🤍
@JMnyJohns
@JMnyJohns 3 дня назад
What a treasure - thank you so much. For all who came to these books late - when he wasn't an active public figure - this is immensely interesting. I would have loved to hear his answers about stuckness and gumption traps :) but want to thank you for what you've posted.
@dazmalski
@dazmalski 3 месяца назад
There's something said here that disturbed me and I wasn't expecting which seems to equate quality with "blind faith" and so I find myself questioning the premises put forwards. Most comments gush with praise "I was gifted this book" "It changed my life" blah blah, I was in the same camp until I listened carefully to the q&a and now I need to go back and review everything again. Thanks for putting this up so I have a reason to revisit this work. And what a work!
@littleshubunkin7926
@littleshubunkin7926 2 месяца назад
I don't think the author would want anyone to read his work uncritically.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Месяц назад
@@littleshubunkin7926 Exactly.
@Hostirad
@Hostirad Месяц назад
I've read Zen many times and for a number of years had my psychology students read it as part of the coursework. A classic, to be sure. How wonderful that this talk has been preserved and made available! If I were still teaching at the university, I would probably have my students watch this video.
@MrNoahTall
@MrNoahTall Год назад
12:36 Decades ago, suffering a dark period of unemployment, the sense of purpose that came from my re-engagement with the working world went beyond the paycheck. I'm sensing Mr. Pirsig is having his own moment of recollection in his intimate telling.
@maudeeb
@maudeeb Год назад
Great stuff. Thanks.
@maudeeb
@maudeeb Год назад
(Should really capitalise Quality in the title!)
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 Год назад
@@maudeeb Yep -- except then it reads as part of the book title, and the way around that would be to italicize the book title, except RU-vid doesn't allow italics in the video title. Thus, the current compromise.
@maudeeb
@maudeeb Год назад
@@tedpirsig154 Fair point. Single quotes around the title could work.
@johnc2363
@johnc2363 Год назад
where is that lumber?!? I wanna build the pirsig boat...😅
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Месяц назад
just DO IT mate ! Bob would´ve liked that !
@spactick
@spactick 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for logging this on RU-vid Ted. Do you know of other lectures (or talks) that your father gave on AMM that you could likewise upload here?
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 8 месяцев назад
No, nothing beyond what's already out there (that I'm aware of). He did very little public speaking.
@texasd1385
@texasd1385 2 месяца назад
I had heard that he used note cards to organize the structure of the book but i had mistakenly imagined such a system as just a fancier version of an outline necessitaed by the complexity of the work. Hearing him explain that i had it exactly wrong and that the notes were a method to allow for constant expansion and revision was a revelation. Thanks for uploading such a wonderful video
@mrfake675
@mrfake675 2 месяца назад
Jesus is the way. Quality comes from pleasing God.
@aladinfox4098
@aladinfox4098 2 месяца назад
How do authors and wriyers calculate how many words they have written? Just asking .🤔
@chrisknotz1984
@chrisknotz1984 Год назад
I found the book in the mountains of California by chance in a cabin. I love how he says don’t cling to my words. Make them a glimpse in your time. Wonderful
@hermanhelmich
@hermanhelmich Год назад
Thanks a lot for the upload… I must admit I’m more into LILA… It’s his masterpiece imo
@Road_Trippy_Ryan
@Road_Trippy_Ryan Год назад
Love the “squareness” of the crowd.
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 Год назад
Heh. 16-year-old me is in that crowd.
@Road_Trippy_Ryan
@Road_Trippy_Ryan Год назад
@@tedpirsig154 that’s awesome, it is an honor to get to interact with you. I didn’t even exist back then 🙏
@aladinfox4098
@aladinfox4098 2 месяца назад
thinking the same thing....how crowds change !
@sky.crusher
@sky.crusher 5 месяцев назад
I was assigned the book by George Nelson while a Grad Student at Architecture School. The rest was indeed all downhill.
@dazmalski
@dazmalski 3 месяца назад
🤣. May you ascend again!
@cmburns2606
@cmburns2606 Год назад
Thank you so much for posting
@stavborochov1673
@stavborochov1673 Год назад
Wish the rest of the talk was also captured, I guess they really did go on for 2 more hours
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 Год назад
No, I'm pretty sure that it ended there.
@giovannimanfreda284
@giovannimanfreda284 Год назад
thank you🙏
@johnbarlow8086
@johnbarlow8086 Год назад
Gold dust! Thank you 🙏
@stringless6961
@stringless6961 Год назад
Thank you for sharing!
@gerryrafferty7500
@gerryrafferty7500 4 месяца назад
Now I am thrilled my son is an Edward
@jrkovar
@jrkovar 9 месяцев назад
Thank the gods for JD Landis
@ArtunT
@ArtunT 5 месяцев назад
JDL is incredible! I was moved to read his first response back to PR read: “I’m more interested and intrigued than ever and just want to say that there’s no rush at this end - you should take your time and under no circumstances sacrifice art to haste for fear that my willingness to read your book will either diminish or be forgotten.”.
@richardlewin3611
@richardlewin3611 Год назад
Did he ever get on the Today Show? Thanks for putting this on by the way.
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 Год назад
No. He decided to skip all publicity tours entirely, and in fact went and secluded himself in the mountains out west for awhile.
@richardlewin1596
@richardlewin1596 Год назад
Can’t blame him. I take you are his son Ted? I wrote to Bob once. I wanted to say that I was sorry about Chris.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
@@tedpirsig154 Well . . .thats not really a bad thing to do . . . like Nietzsches Zarathustra . . .or: the "fool" (sic) on the hill. . . I recommend that too. . . native Indians too . . . lt c l e a r s situations . . .
@alaskannoon
@alaskannoon 13 дней назад
Thank You!
@richardouvrier3078
@richardouvrier3078 11 месяцев назад
You have to find yourself in your situation b it’s an obstacle when you’re famous. Face up to technology.
@ארכיוןעובדיהערוץהראשון-זכויותצ
like ALL the others THANKING YOU VERY MUCH !!!! he's so like his writing .. BTW, I don't think he'll be different in another interview in those days 👍👏
@rgaleny
@rgaleny 10 месяцев назад
See the Gödel paradox. Meta quality is undefinable as all systems are incomplete.
@SingleMalt77005
@SingleMalt77005 Год назад
Wonderful. Did you know that Robert Redford got an option to make a movie of ZMM?
@tedpirsig154
@tedpirsig154 Год назад
True!
@johnsmith-ke8qk
@johnsmith-ke8qk Год назад
Did you read Lila? It comes up in that. Do you think the book could be made into a good movie?
@SingleMalt77005
@SingleMalt77005 Год назад
@@johnsmith-ke8qk I did read Lila but have to say I did not like it as much (maybe ZMM was a hard act to follow). In the right hands, I do think ZMM could be made into a good movie because it would combine the "action" part of the road trip, the emotional part (relation of father to son), and the intellectual part (philosophy). I do not think it would he a blockbuster but it would have good potential as an art-house type of movie. I can see how it would be difficult to get a major studio to green-light it but an independent might do so. And it would naturally be hard for it to please everybody, especially devoted fans of ZMM. Incorporating the intellectual/philosophy part would be pretty tough and it would be at risk of being over-simplified. I think it was pretty cool that Redford was interested.
@johnsmith-ke8qk
@johnsmith-ke8qk Год назад
@@SingleMalt77005 My feeling is also that Lila isn't quite as quality as ZMM. Maybe because it was trying to tie down quality too much. I think I agreed less with Pirsig's conclusions in Lila too. But I'd have to re-read it. Regarding the film, yes it would be hard to convey the philosophical ideas in a film. One way might be to intersperse clips of what Phadrus's is thinking.
@blucat4
@blucat4 Год назад
If anyone could have made that movie work, it would have been Robert Redford, I would have loved to see him make it. I also didn't think much of Lila. It's a lot of philosophy but doesn't have the family connection with Chris, the DeWeeses, his former students, the chairman etc, and it doesn't have the 'wow' of what happened to him and that his old personality came back. That book can never be written again.
@Throckie1
@Throckie1 Год назад
Poignant open honest but also how the creative process is difficult and can perhaps destroy you unless you remain open
@alexandram8075
@alexandram8075 Год назад
Fantastic
@iantumulty4053
@iantumulty4053 Год назад
Gold
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Год назад
. . . gold is NOTHING compared with THIS !
@NewMusicWeekly
@NewMusicWeekly 7 месяцев назад
I've never seen someone thread the needle between ego and false modesty so well.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Месяц назад
GREAT virtue indeed !
@aodhanodonnell2148
@aodhanodonnell2148 7 месяцев назад
Doesn't quality mean good, it is an intelligible concept but you can't define it
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 6 месяцев назад
Yup. You can only EXPERIENCE it ! E.G.: If you are unsatisfied with your rusty car, I recommend driving a galvanized AUDI of the nineties (later ones aren´t t h a t durable) Then you experience quality. German quality
@aodhanodonnell2148
@aodhanodonnell2148 4 месяца назад
And beauty is irreducible from itself, geometrical algorithms portray it accurately but it's not algorithmic
@xdfckt2564
@xdfckt2564 Год назад
There actually is an Indian guy who talks to crows. He starts cawing and then a huge swarm of crows show up out of nowhere. The film industry actually use his services. The guy says he understands em. Werd
@e00d20
@e00d20 Год назад
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@dilfmag9832
@dilfmag9832 Год назад
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@eveythingthatsadam
@eveythingthatsadam Год назад
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@darrellee8194
@darrellee8194 5 месяцев назад
So he re-invented Zettelkasten?
@Sidiciousify
@Sidiciousify 5 месяцев назад
Who is that?
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 Месяц назад
@@Sidiciousify A box for anonymous proposals !
@pottavio1
@pottavio1 Год назад
Thanks so much for posting this Ted. So helpful. I've read this first time in 1993 since it was recommended before medical school interview. But, read second time 2018 when trying to make sense of things. And reading third time now. Now, my sons reading. Truly amazing work.
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