Rocco vs Lazav vs Thrasios/Vial Smasher vs Tymna/Kraum | CEDH Gameplay 

I was just about to comment on that

Thank you for pointing this out! I hope more people catch it

It got a giggle out of me for sure.

Steve Brule moment

Came here to say this. So good

The notion in the ocean is no notion thieves are allowed.

You know Greg. He prefers drawing cards to winning.

Lol same here

@@sharkmanyt4431 Thanks for the advice :D

That's something I definitely can improve on...threat assessment

Podcast is great!

@@ricobamert anytime

And attacks Greg. Poor Greg.

I was thinking that too. I went back to figure out why he didn't recast Rocco to tutor for something but I just didn't understand why.

My same thought. Also, does he not have an alternate win con to ballista to dump mana on?

Could have fetched for eternal witness to get waking ballista back as well or abolisher/esper sentinel. Should probably throw ranger captain in that deck too.

Been playing Rocco since release, it is great!

He might’ve had it if he didn’t waste his Veil of Summer!

@@davidlyda3238 it was a weird call ngl

Why did he tutor for vizier for sorcery speed? Before either of his opponents mystic remoras had a chance to go away

This rocco list is not it at all, some very questionable plays as well. The commander is super sweeeeet though.

not sure about the list, i havent looked at it yet, but he should really be able to deviate into something other than ballista, any deck needs alternate wincons. maybe it was dualcaster here and he was missing the twinflame? EDIT; just checked the list, he could have grabbed duskwatch recruiter via rocco with inf green but the list indeed doesnt have another creature payout for inf mana aside from ballista, can win with infinite big finale but even after filtering all creatures out via duskwatch he'd have to manually draw it. no food chain somehow

I have sometimes the same problem with chatterfang. If you dont have any draw you just locked the board with infinite mana.

@@trveheimer6360 Looks like he could have used Rocco to get Duskwatch Recruiter, Get all the creatures from his deck, and set up his library and he has this green creature Briarbridge Tracker/Emiel or Temur for that ETB make a clue, could play destiny spinner into that and draw your whole deck and Chord/Eldrich for Grand Abolisher for a safe Ewit/Finale Loop or some Kogla/Temur Sabertooth loops, I think he had outs with infinite Green mana for sure.

@@accoyed true, i didnt realize why he played tracker or duskwatch (building a version of the deck myself) but that translates from creatuers into draw. anyways the deck should 100% run a kiki-jiki line imo. even tho it makes the deck a bit samey to blood pod in consequence. ballista is a nice alternative line, so is bolt / eternal wittness / sabretooth or emiel.

@@trveheimer6360 you can also play godo.

To be fair, he said ONE of the best pilots.

@@jordandietrich4236 Ashiok doesn't stay on the board. You untap with infinite mana and no Ashiok in play. You threw. Lmao. Why? Who knows.

@@ESP4thaWin thank you. I assumed he had white mana available to cast Rocco but looking at the deck list he didn't have anything worth tutoring by the looks of it. =/

Either that or the symbol of Phyrexia

Yea this Rocco list is pretty so-so imo. Not to mention the plays that were made by Jordan were off, to say the least.

Yea Rocco's become one of my favorite decks to play with and this list feels pretty bad honestly. Personally I've settled for a Food Chain + Birthing Pod approach but obviously there's a ton of ways you can build Rocco because of how versatile its ability is, but it feels like Jordan's list heard that and got overwhelmed lol

I was under pressure from kraum all game, never had a good time to cast vial without fear of either losing the game to a combo or to beats. casting curio on thrasios was a desperation play I would not ever recommend doing. some things you just can't control smh

Well in order to "keep" casting Rocco he'd also need infinite red and white mana which he didn't have. But looking at his list for this game, he also doesn't really have any major wincons besides Ballista. Overall still a pretty underwhelming performance and mediocre list.

Instant Speed maybe?

oh I didn't see that yeah makes sense

Instant speed, and if you look at Greg’s list, he’s running the absolute minimum creatures with two or less toughness

He had no white mana to cast him after using the trap

Unfortunately I think the list just isn’t great and he had no clue how to play it.

@@Matzekatze3 Ah that makes sense. Devoted Druid just taps for green right?

I mean he had the win but cycling the veil was questionable

@@jordandietrich4236 thanks for your insight!

Unfortunately the pilot for Rocco had a poor performance and a pretty mediocre list.

He had the win on the next turn with veil rocco and infinite mana :-(

Their list didn't really consist of anything worth tutoring for tbh.

@@relijinn826 there's ewit which could have got back balista, or duskwatch recruiter which could have drawn all the creatures in the deck

I’ve been playing Lazav since he came out lol.

Storm checks for every spell that was cast before it, regardless of who casted it.

He literally played so many things that led to thoracle. I think people need to stop being so hard on it from a viewers perspective, you want to watch “the best cards in the format” but don’t want people to use the most compact combo in the game? I mean I get it, but it’s literally the best way to win in the format. That’s why it’s used so much.

why don't we ban sol ring, and the color green while we're at it!