Rock Climbing Tree Anchors, Top Rope 

lol, right

lol that anchor is bombproof

@@ASNIV_ probably, I've used the same one just making fun of the wording over the knot

Because of the way he tied the figure 8s, that single fisherman could fail and the anchor would not. It's really the third knot in the system.

@@chanthing Also the friction around the tree means the knot doesn't hold much weight at all. By the time the tension gets to the knot it's barely noticeable. If you ever saw those cowboy movies where they just throw the horse reins a couple warps around a wooden bar. No knot or anything. The friction of those 2 wraps is enough that the horse wont be able to pull it loose.

Brett If I was making a RU-vid video showing others, I recon I’d be a little more responsible and at least promote being secured on top of the climb. Accidents do happen. I feel this guys intent came across good, but reality was a little irresponsible accidentally

@@brianbrooking496 yeah I agree it's a great video. Just thought I'd add that fact for novice climbers (like myself)

+lifeisgood070 Great suggestion. I will get on that.

This is it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J2AWR90lALc.html&t

@@dcorradhin126 AWESOME! THANK YOU!

I've never seen it anywhere else. I kinda wonder why bother with it. Most master points in webbing are just one over hand and static line is stronger than webbing

+ozolagniac Thanks for the clarification. I hear you on the single fishermans. You are right it is half of a double fishermans and that is the way it was taught to me to me. Its the same knot used to back up a figure eight when tying off to a harness. Really only used by institutions when teaching climbing. I will make a video soon on the way I tied that bowline. Thanks for watching.

Claude Rains I agree on the 40 degrees. the sleeves and tie ins seem to take too much time. I use to do them. Since I stopped I have not seen any extra wear on the ropes. Just make sure their static and there is very little wear.

Wouldn't that undo the whole friction aspect?

There are other reasons besides redundancy to tie to a second anchor - the "V" he was talking about, if done correctly, reduces the load placed on each anchor...plus the tree is not the only point of possible failure; the rope could snap, biner burst, etc.

DetNosnip You are exactly correct. It always a general rule to have redundancy with anchors especially when toproping. Its also better for the trees to reduce the load on each tree with the "V" Never trust your life to one anchor or one piece of gear. Thanks for the post and response.

totally agree, safety first...and rock climbing is all about backups, good recommendation.

I was just about to write the exact same! Been watching a couple of these and noone ties themselves in at the top before walking up towards the edge. Meanwhile talking about "never trust just one tree".

Brian M especially when walking back and forth over ropes

Do you have a video showing your trying off at the top? I've forgotten how!

static climbing rope. 10 Mill in thickness and about 60 ft long.

TJentzsch The friction wrap is knot one and the fisherman's is the backup. Does that make sense?

Thanks Hiker1792. What college do you go to? There is more than one way to set an anchor, but the oreos is the most important part.

GuideYouOutdoors I go to SUNY Potsdam in upstate NY near the Adirondacks. Only difference in ours is that we sling the second tree and clip it with a figure 8 on a bight instead of the friction.

I like the friction knot a little more, just because it makes it so easy to equalize. Happy climbing.

Zack Lauw about 50 ft.

Tensionless hitch

He seems really good, but a guide not having some form of personal anchor while showing people how to set anchors is not ideal

warriorusma102 In this system you got to get the anchors from the top. You could top out, tear it down and set a rappel that is easy to retrieve. I hope to make a video on just that skill. Keep you eyes open for it to come soon. Thanks for the post.

Wrap a rope around a tree 3 times get someone else to hold the loose end and try to pull it, that should help you trust the friction ;-)

+Hans Haken I'm glad you liked the video. I don't know if you can get more secure then a bowline and a fisherman's backup. I think that alone is 100% secure no matter how far away the fisherman's is. Actually I think a properly tied bowline is 100% secure, but as climbers we back it up anyway.

+chrisgast At this climbing location it was easy and safe to walk around to the top of the cliff. If that is not an option then you will have to lead climb.

Lead climb? Okay. I guess that is something to learn.

Rogelio Rogel Yes the bowline knot. There are a lot of different ways to tie it and if you search on google you can find a good one.

yeah ive looked at several videos but no one allows to see it due to the camera angles at the time of using the tail of the rope through the "rabbit hole", for some reason every video i've seen does that part either to fast or covers it with their hand. I guess ill have to keep looking, thanks for your prompt response!

hey thanks a lot man!!

+Fred Lastname Yes, these trees are trustworthy. Always check the tree by trying to shake it a bit and that is also why we use 2 trees. Just in case one does fail.

If a tree is a foot in diameter but is growing out of a crack, how could the roots be as strong as the trunk if their size is limited based off the size of the crack?

you ever even seen a tree before? they're not made in China man...

It depends on the distance the trees are from the cliff edge. I used a 55 ft rope in this video. I also have a 100ft rope and a 20 ft rope. You can always tie 2 together with a double fishermans as well. Thanks for the post.

He doesnt mean clean as in lacking dirt(which is important) he means keeping it from getting tangled up as it falls down

Alex Hecimovich I got that, it was just a funny thing to say.

I've rushed that part before and thrown a knotted rope over the edge, much better to do it right the first time and not have to pull it back up

***** You can do that, but its not necessary. As long as the angle is less then 45 degrees you are ok. And the ropes hang over the edge. The longer you hang them the smaller the angle. One thing I like to keep in mind is to not make it too complicated for efficiency. I go out to climb not set anchors. Thanks for the comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the vid

GuideYouOutdoors Thanks so much for the quick response! I used the setup recently for top roping and I was happy with how quick it was to setup, and how easy it is to get your master point exactly where you want it.

jesu suqeth you can do this system with webbing. Just be aware that webbing stretches a lot and if it hangs over a sharp edge the stretching can wear on the webbing. Also be warned that the water and overhand knots will be very hard to untie at the end of the day. best of luck

Since he is climbing with a static rope as well?

@@damienmitchell9828 Im from Sweden and no one, here uses static rope for climbing at all. Except for anchors, And thats kinda how everyone do here, in Europe as well. If you watch youtube videos of the pros etc they have dynamic ropes all the time. Didn't one of the best free climbing climber, die just because he had a static rope and a bad harness. When he fell, the rope didn't stretch at all and the harness got destroyed and he died, kinda ironic.

right you don't use it as a rope for climbing (the rope you are tied into), static rope is used for building anchors like we use in this video

@@GuideYouOutdoors at timecode 2:30 I understood you to say something like 'as we are just top roping here, we don't need dynamic rope with stretch.' In the video it looks like you used a short length of static rope for the belay and another static rope as the climbing rope. Not trying to criticise you personally. I will try and find a DMM video on short falls on dyneema. Not quite the same, but good material on the issues of using even a static sling/rope.

@@GuideYouOutdoors video I mentioned from DMM the guys who manufacturer carabineers in UK. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vrgadjo9niY.html Also in video noticed that the single fisherman's knot was: a) not a single fisherman's knot b) the incorrect knot for this setup c) no secondary knot in place d) knot too close to end of rope Also noticed you did not tie yourself into the system as a first step and weren't wearing a harness. I started climbing in 1978, and have so far managed to stay alive. My comments might not go down well with you. But bear in mind beginners watch your videos and take what you say as gospel. So it is my duty to point out safety issues. I make a point to never criticise a RU-vid video unless I see something dangerous. I would advise taking down this video. A word to beginners. Watch instructions from manufacturers of climbing gear and official qualified climbing guides for a particular country (which I am not, so you shouldn't even listen to me).

@@RogerBays Never climb on static rope is the rule to take away. Static rope is only for building anchors.