TohDoh Bodhi's death caught me off guard. I felt they teased it a little when he was caught in the crossfire, but when he made back to the ship I figured he was in the clear…until the grenade.
People weren't happy about Vader choke pun? Vader uses dark humor ALL the time! I'm too lazy to list all of them here but he's done that in all 3 originals.
*Krennic wants to gain favor from the Emperor and asks Vader where he stands, if he's still in command or not* *Vader chokes Krennic* *Krennic falls to the floor* *Vader turns with his fingers clenched* "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director" *Vader walks away*
I am not native, but what is the point of the joke actually? I mean, ok, he refers to choking, but when I translate it into German, it doesn't sound like anything special to me.
I really dont know why a lot of people were upset with Vader saying "Do not choke on your arrogance" as he was force strangling Director Krennic, i thought it was cool, not cheesy and stupid, i also thought he was being serious.
I was too sad at that point to where I couldn't enjoy seeing vaders slaughter of rebels and seeing leia again. the saddest for me was jyn & cassian, chirrut and Baze, and K-2SO in that order. Baze taking one last look at chirrut before he dies :( and even after I was happy to see Red and Gold leader too...
It got me fucked up but it was probably trying to be realistic because of the absence of plot armor. And the ending was probably the most interesting imo because of the irony of krennic's death and it showed the loyalty of each rebel to where they'll still get their job done even if they know they're going to die and I liked that they showed that. Also the ending really did connect with the beginning of a new hope except for leia's excuse for being on the ship of it being on a diplomatic mission but it was on the run from the battle
besides r2 and c3po are always around leia. so it also shows leia was in the base at the same time as organa. so before they left organa was able to personally relay a message to leia to receive the plans and get the jedis help. they wouldnt risk a message liek that over a com in fear that it will get intercepted by the imperials. so again they were able do it in person tbh i think it was well placed
Everyone here is antisocial and you're not going to retrain them overnight. They're basically HUMAN SCUM the same type of behaviour as earth bacteria. They're not educated enough to actually speak back to you. You'll have much better friends with dogs than humans born after 1975. Humans born after 1975 are ALL ego maniacs and they were never taught how to communicate to the older generations of humans born before them.
I don't get why people think the face recreaction for Leia and that other guy i forgot his name wasnt amazing..I actually thought it was them even tho it wasnt lol. 10/10 for me on this movie :) even tho no one cares about my rating of Rogue one xD
KingOfDiamonds I loved it. Tarkin's recreation was both stunning and sorta weird because Peter Cushing has been dead for over 20 years. Princess Leia's face was noticeably CGI, but it was done so well that it never took me out of the moment.
I watched yesterday and honestly it's wayyy better than Force Awakens, I loved this movie, when I walked from Force Awakens I was trying to lie to myself saying I loved but I thought it was disappointing BUT this....I walked out wanting to watch it again and again 9-10 from me
I honestly loved the force awakens, the perfect relaunch of this franchise but I did like this movie more. the best thing I can say about this movie is that I can never watch a new hope without rogue one now.
Me too FA I liked but now I see to many flaws in it. This one was weak in character development but damn the Scarith scene was awesome in every way. Damn Vader ending was epic they should of given us some more that was just flawless Vader he makes SW's no matter what scene you put him in its just that he is SW's.
see i thought it was sullust too but yeah it's confirmed to be mustafar from the art of rogue one book. bit annoying when EVERY PLANET has a subtitle except that one.
the fact that the castle was mustafar makes me super happy. the prequels references where awsome too😀. but dam, what an amazing experience. was blown away at evrey turn! That ending.. God... the nostalgia.. it was everywhere! the vader hallway scene was THE BEST thing in the film by far!😀😀 vader kicked ass👍. very great review so many good points. 👍
JohnnyFingerboards check out Dash star's channel he posted a video on the subject. and Pablo Hidalgo confirmed it WAS mustafar on twitter.! and Disney just dident aknowledge that it was mustafar in the film cause it was a direct link to the prequels and episode 3! stupid arrogant Disney!
+Corey Mckee If you search up pictures of sullust and mustafar and compare them to what you remember from the movie, you will see a clear resemblance to sullust. Pablo Hidalgo does not have the greatest knowledg of Star Wars, and if it was confirmed to be Mustafar, then there would have been a mistake or misconception between what was in the movie and what was instructed.
I am now imagining that whenever we see Vader meditating or by himself, he's just thinking of jokes to make when he chokes people, and even asks Palpatine for some inspiration. I enjoyed the film so much, and I can't wait to see it again. Glad I'm not the only one who picked up on the Rebels references. Also, those two thugs (I forget their names) from A New Hope must have gotten off Jedha really quickly. K-2SO was easily the best character introduced in the film, and probably the best droid character. And that Vader scene... possibly the only live-action scene that truly depicts how terrifying and hopeless it is to go up against a force-wielder, especially one that has no qualms with cutting people up like Vader. Oddly enough, despite their limited development, I actually grew to like these characters really quickly, and found myself caring more for them than the main casts of other Star Wars films. I don't exactly know why. I honestly thought Tarkin HAD been recast when I first saw it, so he definitely convinced me. Leia... not so much. Rogue One may actually be my favourite Star Wars film, although I may need to rewatch it to be sure. Empire is still hard to overtake.
Vader: "My master, i am about to go to an imperial meeting, what jokes to do with force choke do you have?" Palpatine: "i don't know, maybe... umm... "do not choke on your ignorance"?" Vader: "Is that even a joke?" Palpatine: "i don't know! why are you asking me?!"
You were saying about the thugs from A New Hope. Do you think they are definitely the same (because I thought the scars on his face looked a little different to the guy in the cantina), or do you think it might just be a similar looking pair with similar dialogue that Edwards used to nod to ANH?
Max Bamford I reckon they're the same. Especially given that the guy with the scars seemed like he was going to say the exact same thing he said to Luke. As for the scars looking slightly different, it's probably a different actor, and getting makeup and costumes to look exactly the same as they did almost forty years ago is going to be impossible.
For bringing back Peter Crushing from the dead for Tarkin in this film, they did a fantastic job. Yeah you can tell it's CGI, but they did an impressive job, as with Leia. But I actually felt sad when everyone of them died, even though we didn't get much time with them, I still felt sad and I have to say I did tear up when Donnie Yen's character died.
The end was amazing! the girl dies killed by the weapon her father created, is like if she was taking the blame. And all the troopers were obliterated by the weapon they helped to build. When the death star was on the horizon... wow... No one life was of value.
Personally I say no. But it depends on what you're looking for. TFA was more fun and lighthearted and Rogue One was more serious and moody. Both were very good, but in different ways. I love Rogue One though!
I hated krenic Death I wanted Vader to kill Him not the Death Star he should have escaped scariff and Vader would have said you failed me for the last time choked him to death
The significance of his death was poetic. His arogence and demand to take full credit for the Death Star bit him in the ass as his own creation became his demise.
In my mind Krennic's death (Jyn and Cassian's as well) was the most powerful part of the film. It shows the cruelty of Tarkin and the entire Empire. It shows them like who they are and what they'll do not for the good of the galaxy but for achieving their own good and PAWAH.
[SPOILERS!][SPOILERS!][SPOILERS!] [SPOILERS!][SPOILERS!][SPOILERS!] As for the CGI characters, i think this is something that only hardcore fan o very nitpicky eyes will catch. I watched it with my sister, and she didn't know that Peter Cushing died 20 years ago, she thought it was a real character until I told her halfway through the movie "it's a CGI character", she couldn't believe it! Of course Leia was more noticeable but I didn't mind because they were so incredibly good. I loved Red Leader and Gold Leader because they are a nice homage to the original trilogy, I didn't mind that, like the destruction of Red 5, very nice touch. The only thing that made me cringe a little were the two guys from the Mos Eisley cantina (I don't remember their names) on Jedha. I felt that they were out of place, and I agree with you when you say that it would have been cooler to see R2 and C3PO on the ship at the end rather than on Yavin 4. The movie was incredible, for me it was much more "rewarding" than The Force Awakens (which is still I think a better "movie" in regards of characters and pacing), because despite the first half a little choppy and with some character development problems, the crescendo towards the end is FANTASTIC. It was SO SO SO intense, just awesome. ps: rewatching the first trailers I think the reshoots changed the plot a little. In the trailer there are so many scenes that are not in the movie (like Jyn walking on top of the tower towards the TIE Fighter). I know this happens a lot, but the trailers make it very noticeable!
I saw that they were CGI. when we were in the restaurant I said "how they made Tarkin CGI is amazing! and my dad was like "oh, I thought they casted a really good actor"
Not if English is not his/her native language. I'm from Hungary, so spellcheck underlines every single word in this sentence, except for is (because it means "as well" in Hungarian). So don't need to be nitpicky with so. elses spelling.
1993DJC I honestly don't understand how people don't realise it's cgi. Maybe it's different if watched in 3D, but otherwise it has uncanny valley written over it so clearly, it's unsettling. Don't people recognise a real human face anymore? Also I find this practice unethical. It just seems wrong to put an actor's name and face on a performance that isn't their's.
Colorless Man I know. I am so sick of the criticism about lack of character development. I simply don't understand what people want. Did anyone really shed a tear when Obi Wan died? Did anyone even like Luke at first?
It is Obi-Wan and the she he mentions is the messenger sent to get Obi, which is Leia, Bail is told to send a messenger he trusts, and he says he trusts her with his life, aka his adopted daughter
I can't believe how many people fail to make the distinction between the 2 different people they talk about. You'd almost think English isn't your first language.
its not that she people are getting confused with its the "she helped me a lot during the clone wars" thats making people think they are refering to ahsoka. on top of that organa and ahsoka have a huge history together especially considering hes the one that got her to help the alliance. even i am onthe fense of thinking he meant ahsoka at that point and i have to watch it again. tons of people heard she in that part and sadly i dont think we will be able to come to a conclusion until the novel comes out
Did anyone have a problem ? That there was no opening crawl the movie seems like it's not a Starwars movie without an opening crawl especially the one they showed at celebration
I felt the same way at first, but the opening crawl usually dictates what's going on at the present time. Since this movie opened up years in the past, and then fast forwards to the present... having an opening crawl wouldn't have worked for Rogue One.
[SPOILER] I love how Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor hug each other tightly as the shockwave comes toward them. It wasn't anything romantic; just two humans wanting phycial contact in the last moments of their lives. Beautiful and kind of heartbreaking.
Noted on character development. Would it be wise to read Catalyst then prior to the movie so at least you get some background on Krennic, the Erso's and without dropping spoilers Grand Moff Tarkin given what he would pull in the movie.
+TheMangakid1995 Tarkin looked mostly alright to me, but it's the movement that I didn't like quite as much. Animated facial expressions are hard to get right, especially with realistic features. He looked like a video game character during part of it. I had no issue with Leia.
C-3PO and R2-D2's cameo made sense since they were with Organa. The one that felt out of place to me was the two thugs from Mos Eisley, but it didn't take me out of the film.
N Slater Especially when you realize the city and the surrounding area, an area roughly the size of Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana by what I estimate, was destroyed in a "mining accident.". They did have enough time to get off the planet, but it seemed unlikely.
@ Tom S. - They could've been heading to their ship right then and been gone before the shootout even took place. Saying they couldn't have gotten off the planet in time is assuming they were still there when the Death Star test took place.
David Jones I actually think they would have. The human mind is very strong at detecting it when something is artificial. The cgi had a big uncanny valley effect.
No Els you just happen to notice it but I know a lot of people who saw the film and did not know it was cgi , the other way fewer people didnt bother having him cgi. You're just very nitpicky and I feel sorry for you that you get bothered the whole film because of said nitpickiness
Julian Smit I really wouldn't call it nick picking, because I noticed it straight away and it made the movie unbearable for me. I find it quite concerning that people don't recognise a real human face anymore. I also find it hugely disrespectful to the actor to put his name and face to a performance that wasn't his. I sincerely hope they don't solve Carrie Fisher's death by recreating her this way for the sequels. If other people could enjoy the movie, all the better for them. I personally did not enjoy it and hope it won't become a trend.
Julian Smit that's not being nitpicky considering he had like 5 closeups and a helluva lot of screen time. That's like a comment i saw that said someone was being nit picky when they said a singer had a bad falsetto
i was hoping Jyn and Cassian was not going to get romantic before they died. it looked like they were gonna kiss but i was gonna rage at the movie if it happened.
What did you think of the Bail organa part? Contrary to my fears as soon as I saw him did he really fit in, and I truly felt dread as soon as he left for alderaan
If Vader's base is on Mustafar then it has to be a joke from Palpatine to establish a sanctuary for someone who nearly died there. I can imagine Vader strolling along the trails of hot gravel to suddenly discovering the spot Obi-Wan chopped him up. Palpatine comes into scene and tells Vader this is where you fucked up your potential, now breathe the very same essence and air that should have been your last. There's probably a view of the same spot in Vader's base made by Palpatine just to piss him off even more.
*Warning spoilers!* the only thing I missed was seeing the death star jump out of light speed and just popping up in the middel of the battle field crushing some rebel ships in the progress
because its not in the movie, the death star appears over the horizon of the planet creating a spectacular wide shot, thats what happens in the movie anyway
Omar Correa Force awakens characters were incredibly inconsistent and made no sense when you think about them a little deeper. I'm super satisfied with how these characters turned out, considering they only had one movie to pack all of this into. They all had their purposes and it was a very diverse cast. Some of the more interesting characters we've seen in star wars, and they only had one movie to do it. I was pleased with the consistency of the characters, as well. Definitely much more than that of force awakens.
Omar Correa They certainly didn't develop Rey's prodigy handling with the Force... Rey was also boring and a mystery, the only good ones for me were Finn and Poe.
Rey, Finn and Poe are really charismatic and relatable characters (with amazing actors behind them). Most of the characters in RO are really jaded people, affected by war, there's also the fact that we didn't get to know them very well, wich affected a lot their characterization.
Tier100 But, contrary to TFA, these characters were underdevelope as hell. The only character we actually know something about is Jyn and, oddly enough, K-2S0. The others are just... nameless soldiers in a war.
weird isnt it? i can connect better to regular nameless people better than to "the best pilot in the universe poe" or "im super woman ray" or "hey im a brainwashed stormtrooper but all that doesnt matter within seconds when i turn against the empire"
Not finished the video yet, but I feel like I should point out something. (And I know I'm like a year late to the party, so someone's probably said this before) Red Leader and Gold Leader's scenes were not recycled shots from A New Hope, they're actually clips and takes that were edited out or not used. During production, they were going through a bunch of archival film reels, and someone noticed a stack of reels off to the side, and asked what it was. The answer was "Oh, that's just a bunch of unused footage and stuff from the original Star wars. Did you wanna have a look at it?" Yes. All of the yes. Also, the actor who played Gold Leader is still alive, and did record his lines in the film, to dub over the video. As for Biggs, would have been cool to see, but technically, canonically, he was still aboard an Imperial cruiser at the time. It wasn't until after he talked to Luke at Tosche's Station that he mentioned his plan to jump ship and join the Rebellion, which was after the Devastator arrived over Tatooine. (I wonder if Biggs was stationed on the Devastator?) However, I've been told that wedge Antilles' voice can be heard over the intercom on Yavin Base. For R2-D2 and C3PO, it might have made more sense for them to be on board the Tantive IV, but it would have kinda killed the mood. Maybe if Captain Antilles had yelled at them to get back on the ship so they could take off..
My thoughts, after having seen it: > It kind of reminded me of "The Dirty Dozen". > I loved 2SO > Vader was brutal! > I disliked the shuttle with the very angular design and big swing-wings - just seemed way too impractical and clunky > The Tarkin CG both looked good, but was also a bit off-putting, at the same time > I'm a little unclear on why they actually needed Jyn in the first place, and how they found her > Jyn seemed smart enough that she'd understand the gist of what the hologram recording of her father said about the DS, without "totally forgetting it" like she apparently did > Why, exactly, couldn't they call off the Rebel bombing run on the research facility? > It's interesting that the Death Troopers weren't really that more effective than regular Storm Troopers > So the U-Wing was basically just a troop transport? I don't think we even saw it fire a shot. > I wish they would have addressed the X-Wings a bit more - at least in Legends, wasn't it supposed to be kind of a big deal that the Incom design team defected, and brought the plans with them? > I agree that the 3PO/R2 part was a bit cringy > I liked the Hammerhead corvette ramming the disabled Star Destroyer, but for it to slice through the other one seemed, well, too effective. > I wish we would have seen the Death Star fire at full power
The Easter egg that bothered me the most was Pig Nose and Scott. Not sure what their names are. You know, "He doesn't like you... I don't like you either." That stuck out way worse than the 3PO and R2 part.
Angus MacInnes (Gold Leader) owned the pizza restaurant next to my house when I was a kid, he use to give me free pizza most nights as his restaurant garden shared the same area as my back garden.
if you listen to the background in the hanger scene before the team deploys to Scarif, you can hear the comms in the background saying "General Syndulla, please report to the briefing area"
Morgan Phillips he had less than 4 weeks to do it, and I remember many saying the same about TFA the first time around. I'd certainly give it another try if I were you - I bought the album earlier and love Krennic's theme, Jyn's theme and the music from THAT part.
Music in the 2nd half was better than the first. Giacchino just isn't good on leimotif style. I liked his work in Star Trek and the orchestration was spot on, but the composition just wasn't there. There was no heroic sound or in your face brass for the most part. The only time the score came alive was when he used Williams' cues and themes.
Yeah the only parts that actually felt like Star Wars music were what you can hear in the trailers. I found TFA score to be a fantastic variation on the classic; you know it really did sound like it belonged in Star Wars, yet maintained a difference from the original - with Rogue One, it felt like you could have put that score in an array of different Sci-Fi movies and nobody would have noticed it was Star Wars.
It definitely felt different to other star wars movies but as someone who is also into those classic war movies that the camera work and effects definitely pay homage too I still very much enjoyed it.
Absolutely my favorite Star Wars movie, I was freaking out in the theater with that last scene. We finally get a pissed off, no fucks given Darth Vader. Also, I thought the CGI on Tarkin amd Leia were damn near revolutionary.
Vader's phrase sounded like "I find your lack of faith disturbing," or "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am." I don't think that it was a stupid joke.
What bothered me the most was why Churat and Bayes joined the team. There was no exposition about that at all it was just like "Hey ship with an open door, let's go friend!"
King Ross yes he did that AFTER the storm troopers cleared the path, and there's arguably even less rebel soldiers aboard the Tantive as well. Vader was literally an arms reach away from the plans you would think he'd be the first one to blast through the Tantive door. But i'm just being picky because i totally loved the movie
***MINOR SPOILERS*** I suspect that the only reason for the quicker than light R2 and 3PO cameo/joke was to preserve the record of them being the only characters to appear in every Star Wars film to date. It's probably impossible to keep that streak going forever, but I can see why they wouldn't want to let it go. It's not a great gag. But it is basically the last moment of levity in the entire film, so what the hell.
Rogue One: Catalyst made the movie 10x better for me honestly. I already knew Galen, Jyn and Lyra well; so their deaths was emotional for me. The book also described Orson Krennic perfectly
in the spoiler part, you said you wanted a biggs callout, but you forget that he didn't actually join them until after the start of a new hope, but it was a deleted scene but I prefer to think that is canon.
Behind the scenes footage showed Biggs at Yavin, but they may have removed him for this exact reason. I do think that scene is considered canon. But I'd be willing to overlook it for more Biggs haha
They actually didn't take the scenes from A New Hope proper, Gareth found unused film footage of the battle of yavin and cut around it and cleaned it up.
For what is Ahsoka important for the movies? Many of the people, who watch Rogue One, have never heard the name, Ahsoka! Sorry, but what a stupid theory.
No I wouldn't like to see Rebels connecting to Rogue One at the season 3 finale. It's too early. They just went down the path of searching for Obi-Wan and started this race against Maul and how would you explain why Kanan and Ezra weren't featured in the movie because they could definitely have been of great use.
Perhaps thats the point how they get it all, Hera and choper go to help rebelion, Sabine tries to rebuild mandalore, and Ezra and Kanan probably die or they´ll become bendu or grey jedi´s, who knows....I really hope Ezra is Benicio Del Toro character in ep.8 though..... And Zeb goes to Lyrasan I guess... :) Maul could die by the hands of Kenobi, or possibly be the first knight of Ren and so the list of possibilities go on.
