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Roland RD 2000 vs Keyscape Battle 2024 

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In this video I'm comparing the modeled German Concert sound from Roland RD 2000 with the sampled Yamaha C7 from Keyscape.
Both tracks are at the same loudness (-14 LUFS).
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@awakenwithoutcoffee
@awakenwithoutcoffee 5 месяцев назад
first off: amazing playing here. Secondly: the RD 2000 sounded great but once the Keyscape dropped it was an instant "vibe" so my vote goes to Keyscape.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
I like that Keyscape has a lot more parameters to tweak. Also the tone is warmer and less metalic. Probably because the plugin uses a tape machine. But for me no plugin can beat the lower register from the V-Piano (German Concert in this case).
@freetown10
@freetown10 3 месяца назад
No tienes ni idea. Como vas a ni siquiera comparar un programa con el teclaldo físico de Roland 2000.roland suena mucho mejor obviamente
@u-1s2e3r4
@u-1s2e3r4 Месяц назад
@@freetown10 la mayoria de los los sinthes modernos tienen una arquitectura basada en microprocesador multicore con sistema operativo igual que una PC, en este caso la diferencia esta en que uno es sintesis PCM y el otro es un sampler player
@freetown10
@freetown10 Месяц назад
@@u-1s2e3r4 Bro,si sabes eso doy por echo que entiendes, entonces deberías saber que un teclado físico de gama alta a diferencia de un programita trae en su interior unos, citrcuitos que tienen más calidad,unos chips,su muestreo la profundidad de bits.. muchos factores que hace que suene de mayor calidad,es como el montage y modx es exactamente lo mismo el mismo banco de sonidos ,lo que cambia es lo que te dije anteriormente y no te lo digo yo puedes mirarlo en la página oficial.
@u-1s2e3r4
@u-1s2e3r4 Месяц назад
@@freetown10 los teclados llamados de "alta gama!" no son de mejor calidad, de hecho cada vez son peores, hasta tardan en encender, se cuelgan, no tienen repuestos, y sus pre tienen una calidad por debajo de muchas tarjetas de sonido como la SSL o audient, ejemplos montage, modx, Fantom (pura basura) si queres un buen piano este debe ser un piano fisico.
@towjam2359
@towjam2359 3 месяца назад
The real winner? Everyone who listened to your playing!
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot!
@clarenceoveur9497
@clarenceoveur9497 2 месяца назад
I prefer the Roland with some EQ adjustments. Keyscape is overrated, overpriced, and takes up too much disk space for what it accomplishes. If I had to choose a virtual piano, I'd go with the Ravenscroft 275 or Pianoteq over Keyscape any day.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 2 месяца назад
I think Ravenscroft is cool. 80 GB disk space is too much? Wait till you see other libraries.
@clarenceoveur9497
@clarenceoveur9497 2 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano I'm well aware of other libraries larger than Keyscape, which I find even more excessive and unnecessary. However, this doesn't change the fact that Keyscape offers no real advantages over smaller, better-optimized libraries that often sound subjectively better. While Keyscape might look cool for RU-vid, serious gigging musicians are using onboard sounds from Nord, Yamaha, Korg, etc. If they do use samples, they opt for slimmer, more efficient, and often better-sounding alternatives. No one in the trenches is loading hundreds of gigabytes of piano samples, it's just not practical lmao
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 2 месяца назад
@clarenceoveur9497 Are you serious? I have 6 TB SSD disk space available. How about having limited polyphony? I think that’s impractical.
@luthandoheshu984
@luthandoheshu984 3 месяца назад
Roland RD300GX/700GX and Fantom had an Ultimate Grand that sound pretty similatlr to Keyscape piano, I may be wrong. The RD2000 sounds completely different to those pianos. I like both piano sounds though.
@johnalafis1004
@johnalafis1004 6 месяцев назад
German concert was a game changer for RD-2000
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 6 месяцев назад
Exactly, especially the lower register sounds much better than any sample library.
@brunopereira3640
@brunopereira3640 Месяц назад
Eu acho o Keyscape bem mais bonito e realista!
@nikosflute
@nikosflute 7 дней назад
The Roland exhibits a distinctly brighter timbre, characterized by a cleaner sound that integrates more effectively with compositions incorporating digital recordings and electronic instruments. In contrast, Keyscape produces a more subdued and vintage tone, evoking a sense of nostalgia reminiscent of older pianos. However, this does not necessarily imply superiority over Roland. Keyscape’s tonal qualities make it well-suited for recordings involving acoustic instruments. In my view, for projects focused on digital recordings or film scores, Roland would be the optimal choice.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 7 дней назад
Keyscape sounds darker because it uses a denoise filter (eq) but has superior reverbs. You can also find very bright keyscape patches in the plugin.
@MOOGERIZED
@MOOGERIZED Месяц назад
Keyscape all the way
@adamnemeth9965
@adamnemeth9965 4 месяца назад
Came for the sound, stayed for the playing.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
Thanks!
@davidsenengele1491
@davidsenengele1491 5 месяцев назад
Hey 😊 There's no comparison : Roland is superior ! Even if Keyscape is also great but it sound very "plugin" face to the Roland.
@jonathanalfred9847
@jonathanalfred9847 3 месяца назад
Where does the RD 2000 fit in Rolands lineup of keyboards ? Is it the top model ? Is it above a 670 or 920 ? The Roland sounded great until you played the Keyscape. Does that keyscape sound come in a Yamaha keyboard ? And can all of todays keyboards be used as a controller for Keyscape. I want to replace my 15 year old Yamaha keyboard. And i want something allot nicer. But im not sure what to get. I will be using it in my living room. But moving into my bedroom home studeo when i want to record into a daw. And i want the most realistic piano sounds. I am not a great piano player. Just a song writer who wants to record songs that i write. I will not be gigging with the keyboard. I have been watching videos of the 525 and 680, 920, 88, 90 and others. But i still dont know whats best for me. Most videos seem like they dont want to give honest opinions because they are selling all the brands. I wish there was a video that laid out all the strong points and weak points of the top 10 keyboards in a honest way. From someone who isnt bias to one company or sponsered. Any smart advice would be appreciated.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 3 месяца назад
No keyboard or software is the best. You’ll probably need to have multiple options for different types of music. Keyscape is an affordable sampled sounds selection. Modelled instruments are sometimes more realistic in terms of sound. You could probably start with the SL 88 Grand and a M2 Mac to avoid latency and other issues.
@frederickbaugher8361
@frederickbaugher8361 4 месяца назад
The Roland is way too bright. The key scape has its own issues, but it’s the winner.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
When I need a warmer sound I always use Keyscape, plus the plugin has really amazing reverbs. I mostly bring the MIDI velocity down and boost the volume by a few decibels.
@pjjazzman
@pjjazzman 28 дней назад
that is why they used the Roland keyboard to create keyscape
@matty1953565962
@matty1953565962 Месяц назад
I much prefer the C7 sample in my Ivory II over the Keyscape version. It just seems to have more depth.
@coscrupi
@coscrupi 2 месяца назад
Did not like the tone on the low notes from the Keyscape
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 2 месяца назад
Yes, Keyscape is not the best for a robust low end tone.
@instrumentalistjade8367
@instrumentalistjade8367 2 месяца назад
Thats y I don't buy keyboards anymore. Anyway you played beautifully
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 2 месяца назад
I'm making a video about this
@kaanpiyano1
@kaanpiyano1 4 месяца назад
A warm tone at the piano in my opinion always wins.
@bhaveshmistry3255
@bhaveshmistry3255 Месяц назад
I like the RD2000
@rodrigorsoficial
@rodrigorsoficial 3 месяца назад
Boa!!! O piano do Rd é um pouco mais brilhante, com menos graves e mais aberto.. mas ambos soaram lindos. Abraços
@markmaw8
@markmaw8 3 месяца назад
Wow your playing Is absolutely beautiful!
@ricardocastroredondo999
@ricardocastroredondo999 5 месяцев назад
Rd-2000 "the winner", really natural bite and piano performance. Key too much effects but sounds good too(Personally speaking).
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
Some people don’t like the bite :)
@ricardocastroredondo999
@ricardocastroredondo999 5 месяцев назад
@@rolandv-piano Of course!.... ;)
@instrumentalistjade8367
@instrumentalistjade8367 3 месяца назад
Keyscape is better but nothing beats the hardware keyboard
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 3 месяца назад
Debatable, anything can be replaced
@lawrencelougheed
@lawrencelougheed 5 месяцев назад
Wonderful playing 🙂
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@diegoalejo15
@diegoalejo15 2 месяца назад
as a natural piano I prefet Grand S (Kontakt) a thousand times over Keyscape, and always use PSP piano reverb (specially on Keyscape)
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 2 месяца назад
@@diegoalejo15 I’ve tried PSP piano reverb and it’s amazing.
@diegoalejo15
@diegoalejo15 2 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano I forgot to say beautiful performance!
@EduardoRohdeEras
@EduardoRohdeEras 4 месяца назад
Feels like Roland will mix better alive, but Keyscape is my favorite for solo
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
I use Keyscape mostly in the studio but I have a couple presets for live too.
@sale6257
@sale6257 2 месяца назад
I would like to ask if you think the Roland German Concert is good enough or close enough to the sampled piano sound
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 2 месяца назад
@@sale6257 It’s bright and sometimes better than sampled instruments. I would used it for playing in a band or for solo where you need a lot of low end and you’re playing big chords. The way the notes ring together and interact with each other makes it a special instrument. I wouldn’t use it for soft, delicate playing that needs to sound warm. It’s simply too bright for that.
@sale6257
@sale6257 2 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano Thank you for your detailed explanation
@TopWorldPiano
@TopWorldPiano 28 дней назад
@@rolandv-piano I TOTALLY AGREE. I bought the RD-2000 German Piano expansion (149 usd) and I was very dissapointed when I need to play pianissimos. Unlike any real acoustic grand, the tone color doesn't change depending on the atack... it just stays bright, at a lower volume. That´s very annoying. Any of my RD-2000 edited V pianos give me better results and allow me be a more expresive interpreter. German Grand expansion is just great for big forte chords. This is ilogical!! However, the RD-2000 touch and action es THE BEST in any Keyboard built ever. I stay with it!! Congratulations on your playing! Do you have a personal chanel? If so.. what's your name? Grettings from Mexico! 👍😉
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 28 дней назад
@TopWorldPiano Thank you for the thoughtful comment. I own the Roland V-Piano (stage piano) and the key to sound calibration is superior. I also like the keybed better. Unfortunately the instrument was made between 2007 and 2011 and they don’t offer updates any longer. RD 2000 is a great option but I wouldn’t be able to play classical music on it. My personal channel: @nharmonickx
@bobaasmr9347
@bobaasmr9347 4 месяца назад
I wanna know what the player thinks?
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
I mostly use Keyscape but I like the lower register from Roland modelled pianos.
@thisathharischandra5454
@thisathharischandra5454 Месяц назад
both are soooooooooooooo butiful coz of your marvles plying❤❤❤❤❤❤
@cesarbragapiano
@cesarbragapiano 3 месяца назад
After all we will merely give our opinions on the sound. But both listening to this gorgeous playing and reading the comments are so much fun. So much learning in both. 😊
@ericmontgomery5241
@ericmontgomery5241 3 месяца назад
I would love to know the EQ/compressor settings you used for Keyscape. It sounded great. But your playing is fantastic! The way you play, you could make a Casio from 1980 sound great.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 3 месяца назад
If I remember correctly I just used the “Classical” preset in Keyscape, boosted the lows by 25% and chose the “warm” character. This Yamaha C7 has a warmer/closer sound and is less metalic compared to the default preset in Keyscape. I agree, the playing is the most important thing. Thanks for watching!
@ericmontgomery5241
@ericmontgomery5241 3 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano Thank you. I will try that!
@BerkiAranka-j1e
@BerkiAranka-j1e 2 месяца назад
Vegso vallomás united
@J-FoxProductionsEDU
@J-FoxProductionsEDU 3 месяца назад
It is very much possible to tweak the EQ of the German concert piano's [generated] sound in a way that it could come exceptionally close to a perfect replication of the keyscape's [sampled] sound - I would have made EQ adjustments with slight lowering on the high end and slightly bringing up the mid-range.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 3 месяца назад
Yes it’s possible to EQ both sounds according to your preference. I believe I boosted the highs and lows of the German Concert by a few dB.
@alexcazares4868
@alexcazares4868 3 месяца назад
I had RD2000 and it wins in terms of keyboard responsiveness. I'm not talking about the hammer action, I'm talking about the combination of pressing a key and then playing the sound. Because it's synthesis, it's as natural as possible and without delay. When you play through sampler libraries, you hear the delay even at the smallest buffer size. It always feels like you're listening from the side, not playing yourself. And it's not just because of the buffer size. When playing on RD2000 on the physical modeling engine there is no such feeling. And the sound is much better than the Pianoteq. But I sold it because I'm not comfortable with its display and menus.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 3 месяца назад
Not true, I have a Mac M2 and you can achieve almost 0 latency with a quality audio interface. But I still prefer an acoustic instrument for playing.
@alexcazares4868
@alexcazares4868 3 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano As I said, it has nothing to do with the latency that the audio interface gives you. This is only small factor. I'm talking about something a little different. V-piano has better feel under your fingers, better feedback. It's one of the driest sounds and hits you right in the face. All the libraries sound like it's a beautiful picture under glass, that's how it feels under your fingers. Too many factors for that and it's long to describe. Anyway this is just my opinion
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 3 месяца назад
Yes, I agree with you that the V-Piano is more responsive. It has to do with how everything is integrated (keybed, sensors, sounds, calibration, etc…). Sometimes I record my self on the V-Piano and send the MIDI data to a sample library afterwards. I personally like the feel of the V-Piano but the sound is for me not realistic enough in every register and the stereo image is too narrow compared to other plugins.
@alexcazares4868
@alexcazares4868 3 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano "It has to do with how everything is integrated (keybed, sensors, sounds, calibration, etc…)" Yeah, that's absolutely right. That's what I was talking about. The V-Piano is good for playing, but for studio work there are many better options out there
@fidelonuselogu8874
@fidelonuselogu8874 5 месяцев назад
Keyscape🎉🎉🎉 but can I use the faders on the rd2000 to control my daw??
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
Yes, if you press shift the led turns green and you can control an external sound
@fidelonuselogu8874
@fidelonuselogu8874 5 месяцев назад
@@rolandv-piano okay thanks what about the knobs and buttons??
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
I don’t know for sure but I don’t think they send MIDI CC data via usb. They can be assigned to different parameters internally. I will need to try but I usually use AKAI LPD8 controller for external instruments. It’s cheap and very effective especially with Ableton Live.
@luthandoheshu984
@luthandoheshu984 5 месяцев назад
Those pianos sound superb. They're both great. As it seems Roland has Ultimate Piano which sounds like Keyscape, I maybe wrong but definitely sound very similar imo. 😊
@MikeHenrick1
@MikeHenrick1 5 месяцев назад
Both top notch
@cremersalex
@cremersalex 5 месяцев назад
Does the Keyscape piano have pedal down resonance?
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
What do you mean by that?
@cremersalex
@cremersalex 5 месяцев назад
​@@rolandv-piano Pedal or damper resonance. When you play on a piano with the damper pedal down, all the strings vibrate a little with the note or chord you just played.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
It has an option called “sustain realism”
@cremersalex
@cremersalex 5 месяцев назад
@@rolandv-piano I see. I looked it up and this option turns off the pedal down samples (samples with resonance) to release the strain on your computer. That means the Yamaha C7 does indeed has pedal down resonance, which is good news. Thank you.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 5 месяцев назад
Even when it’s on it doesn’t come close to modelled piano sounds but it’s a cool option to have.
@fmendoncatecladista
@fmendoncatecladista 2 месяца назад
Congratulations! 👏🏼👏🏼 hello from Brazil
@nugzar.paitchadzepaitchadze
@nugzar.paitchadzepaitchadze 4 месяца назад
I'd guess Nord piano 5 is the world champ on the market, as to comparison of these two, for me at least they sound equally perfect. But most of all i'd say, Steinway 0 or B :) would be my preference :)
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
Sampling and physical modelling are two completely different technologies
@nugzar.paitchadzepaitchadze
@nugzar.paitchadzepaitchadze 4 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano yea , isn't sampling sound more natural and realistic ?
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
@user-hp2hd5vy5x not necessarily, especially when we’re talking about long notes and how they ring, also the interaction between different strings can’t be sampled.
@mauroscardini2663
@mauroscardini2663 4 месяца назад
The two pianos should be equalized in the same way. Roland is more bright while keyscape looks like it's in the basement!😁
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
That’s not the point of this video. The sounds each have a different character and the eq is part of it.
@MajorTom546
@MajorTom546 4 месяца назад
Sorry but there is no competition/battle here. It just highlighted the limitations of RD 2000. Keyscape hands down.
@rolandv-piano
@rolandv-piano 4 месяца назад
Every instrument/plugin has limitations
@MajorTom546
@MajorTom546 4 месяца назад
@@rolandv-piano we’re both correct then.
@widely06
@widely06 4 месяца назад
Keyscape wins
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