Roland TD-27 Version 2 Update Review

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Review of the new Roland TD-27 v2 software update, exploring the new kits, samples and upgraded features. Find out what the changes mean for users and what improvements could have made it even better.
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Compatible with
► Roland TD-50X, TD-50, TD-27, TD-17, SPD-SX, SPD-S, TM-6 PRO, TM-2, TM-1* & RT-MicS*
► Alesis Strike Module (instrument files included), Strike Multipad
► dbdrums nPad, G4M DD90 Digipad and HXW PD-705
► Yamaha DTX-PROX, DTX-PRO, DTX-Multi 12, EAD10
► Pearl Mimic Pro
► Steven Slate Trigger 2 (.tci files included)
► Gear4Music DD90 Digipad
► dbdrums nPad
► ddrum NIO Percussion Pad
► HXW Avatar PD-705
► Millennium NonaPad
► Ashley DME 705
& any module that supports 44.1kHz, 16-bit stereo .wav samples with a layering function
*TM-1 & RT-MicS may require additional software to load samples
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@Steve2112Rocks Год назад

Awesome review. I have not yet updated as my laptop not working. Am in no real hurry since I have your kits!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Thank you! 🙏 Yeah, if you're not too interested in the kits/features, it's not entirely necessary. My next set of kits will only work on this update though so it will be worth doing down the line!

@jensgachter8575 Год назад

Great video as always Luke! One thing i noticed with the V2 is that the response and playability of my VH13 (which i guess is also the case for other hihats) has improved, which is definitely a nice addition from the update

@bkf22002 Год назад

I always appreciate and enjoy your content Luke!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Thank you 🙏

@christskingdom8950 Год назад

As an owner of both a 27 and 50x, I thank you 👍🏻

@jonathanharned1706 Год назад

Really curious which one you prefer or if there's a big difference between sound in the td27kv2 and the td50x:)

@tx2jbh81 Год назад

I’m AMAZED that you can fit all of those drums & cymbals on the TD27 😮

@jerrythecoo3295 6 месяцев назад

Splitters are a blessing as well……..👀😏😎👍✌️🇨🇦

@tx2jbh81 6 месяцев назад

@@jerrythecoo3295 Is THAT how multiple triggers are accomplished??!!!

@jerrythecoo3295 6 месяцев назад

You got it Pontiac!!!!!😎👍🤘🍪

@zoohuman Год назад

Quality, explanations and useful material, just as usual. Thank you!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Thank you 🙏

@westcoastdrummer Месяц назад

As always, a very informative video showing the wealth of knowledge you possess. It saves me so much time and the learning curve easier. I just bought a TD-27 and we'll see if it will work instead of the TD-50x. I got it for $700 brand new, so I'm hoping it meets my needs sonically. Thanks for sharing your deep information pool.

@LDdrums20 11 месяцев назад

What you mentioned as missed opportunities are super on point. I miss that too!

@laptoples Год назад

Great video dude !!! If you have time, it'd be awesome if you did a quick one on the TD17 too. :-)

@drumforall1601 Год назад

I second that! I have eDrum Worlds TD17 kits which are great, but I am interested if the update could improve them

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Thanks 🙏 I'm hoping to do one!

@HanDrumsolo Год назад

Roland should do a tour of Toontrack to learn how drums sound

@budhiharlow4945 Год назад

Different animals for sure and not exclusive~best of both worlds.

@galgogergo Год назад

Most definitely

@ladanzza 8 месяцев назад

Hi Luke, thanks for your effort anyways both sound bad to me, that I love about Roland is the triggering with libraries has no paralell

@neilthompson8766 Год назад

Any chance of a review of what’s available for the TD 27 on the Roland cloud? Oh I forgot, virtually nothing.

@matthewperriss4051 Год назад

Great video, as always Luke. 👍👍👍

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Thank you 🙏

@birchdrums Год назад

Great review Luke, and great playing as well. Thanks so much for your expert opinions on the upgrade and what features were 'missed' compared to the 50x upgrade.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Thank you 🙏

@williamperri3437 3 месяца назад

Hey Buddy! Does this kit still kick ass? Any values still in choosing this over the Alesis Strat prime or Mimic pro? I mean, so many choices even the Ef Note!

@Tony-fx9ky Год назад

Im thinking of buying this module together with the digital ride and snare. Do you think alesis strike pads work with this module? Im currently a Strike Pro Se owner and I was thinking of swapping modules. The cymbals dont matter, I have some spare lemons etc. I just want the Tom and kickpads to work. Love the channel

@laptoples Год назад

Hey dude !!! Sure, if you get the digital snare and ride, your Strike stuff should work fine. I have Yamaha cymbols in my set up and they work fine. Although I personally haven't tried it, but if Yamaha stuff works, then it should be fine...lol I basically have the TD27 for the main set up, and the TD17 for extra cymbols and stuff. If you like a big set, keep your strike module and you'll have a GIANT drum set....lol The only digital thing I have is the digital snare so far, but it's definitely worth it !!! It's as close as I've come to it feeling like a real snare. Next I want the hi hat which is crazy priced, then I'll get the ride cymbol. But I like my TD27, but as you can see in the comments, everyone is different. Basically, you can tweek anything with these tools, so, you can make it sound almost any way you want. There's an insane amount of options... Luke just showed the sounds out of the box. Its the hardware that I like. Expensive, but I haven't felt anything close to it that's better. Hope this helps !!! :-)

@Tony-fx9ky Год назад

@@laptoples it sure does. Thanks buddy. The digital hihat is for next year Indeed. A vh10 should do after my upgrade haha

@thezone4957 Год назад

Hey Luke sorry if this is spamming your video comments. I have been using the TD-27 live now for a couple of years with your user samples which tbh, I wouldn't have gone live with out your kits! I am finding the cymbal sounds probably the most disappointing and wondering if upgrading to the TD-50X (with your user samples of course) would improve the "Realism" of the cymbal sounds? Of course I may be asking too much of a digital device to replicate analogue instruments. Or perhaps I should upgrade the TD-27 to FW 2.0 for a start?

@qroger1 Год назад

Thx))) And what about Roland td-17 version 2 ? ;)

@laptoples Год назад

Yeah, I have the TD17 too, and I'm curious about the update on that as well !!!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

All videos take time to produce 😉 I'm hoping to do one!

@qroger1 Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop we will look forward to it😊

@jameskujawski6651 Год назад

Was wondering if RdB instruments were updated as I have a 3 zone ride? They're on the Data List, but nowhere to be found in my TD-27 module. Thanks

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

I'm not sure what you mean? There are ride bell instruments in both versions and none of the instruments themselves have changed from v1.11 to v2.00. If you're using a 3 zone ride, the bell will be assigned to the bell zone automatically when you assign a ride cymbal sound to the pad. If you want access to the ride bell sound to assign to a pad or zone on its own, you can turn off the H&R button (head and rim link) then you'll be able to cycle through the various articulations of any sound - so bow, edge or bell for rides, bow and edge for cymbals, head and rim for drums etc.

@maximumguitarage Год назад

Hey Luke, great video. In a professional recording setting the TD27 still doesn't make the grade correct?

@vonbleak101 5 месяцев назад

No - Use an e-kit to trigger SD3 if you want studio quality drums...

@DrumGun76 9 месяцев назад

Hey Luke! Just got my first digital snare and TD-27. Bought a couple of your custom kits as I was not too impressed with the stock ones. One thing I noticed from some of your other videos on the Roland digital snare, was the rim only sound when not resting your hand on the head or not doing a rimshot.... My snare will. not do this no matter what I try. Any thoughts?Thanks for all of your videos!

@Nabukosonodor Год назад

How did you make the hi-hat quick open transition work so well? Sometimes I get a muted sound on my kit. The only way I can get it to sound half way decent is by using your samples, especially the Gavin Harrison one. And obviously SD3...

@bartomiejmanko1188 2 месяца назад

Hi bro, I Need information about some kid of "lock" to be able to change parameters of each pad while playing. Does it have a name? Is it possible on td-27?

@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 месяца назад

I believe I have replied to this on another platform, but in case anyone else reading wants the information - There is a "TRIG LOCK" label between the buttons ENTER and SYSTEM. Press these two buttons down together to enable the trigger lock function. Repeat to turn it off.

@stevengonzalez4111 Год назад

Greetings Luke, I’m having issues with my PD-85. The pad will often, and at random fire a "rim shot" (combo rim & head) signal but NOT a true rim sound when striking the rim. I’m using a TD-50 which was upgraded to TD-50X through the firmware upgrade. In the trigger screen, the position indicator of “center----outer”, shows the marker at one or two hash-marks just inside of "outer" area when I strike the rim. And at other times, the marker is all the way right to “outer” with a good solid rim click. I tried a test with a DP8 to verify the module or the pad as the cause, but the same result happened with the PD8. I’m wondering if the PD85 is compatible with the TD-50X. I’ve been trying to contact Roland for the last week but they haven’t replied. For the prices Roland products are, one would think customer service would be better. Your help would be appreciated if you might have a solution or suggestion. I’m considering a third party solution for an 8” dual trigger pad. Thank you for any help and for your time.

@tx2jbh81 Год назад

I’m on the fence about getting the TD27 or TD50. I REALLY want two floor toms and one rack tom. Digital HH, ride and snare. Will the TD27 support all that??

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Hey! Yeah, the TD-27 has kick, snare, 3 tom inputs, hi-hat, ride, crash 1 & 2, then 3 more "AUX" inputs, so it will handle that just fine (Aux 3 is often assigned as a fourth tom on a lot of kits too). The TD-50/50X only has 2 extra inputs (Tom 4 and Aux 4), if that swings things for you. The sounds in the TD-50X are quite different compared to the original TD-50, the original 50 sounded much more like the 27. So it depends which sounds you prefer and whether or not you need the rest of the 50X's features.

@tx2jbh81 Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop I can’t convince the 👰🏻 that I “NEED” the 50x. So, the VAD504 w/ updated TD27 will support digital ride, HH and snare as well as a 10” tom and 2 floor toms, kick and TWO crashes???

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Yes, all of those plus there will be 3 inputs still free!

@tx2jbh81 Год назад

Can the “foot sw” plug be used for a cymbal or tom?

@tx2jbh81 Год назад

I screenshot the back of the TD27 and I don’t see enough plugs for three toms, kick and two crashes. I know the HH, RD and SN have designated plugs.

@jamessullenriot Год назад

I just wish they would organize the kits better. For example there are a few jazz kits but the are far apart when scrolling. It's a small thing but quite an annoyance. Studio A is #1 but the next studio is 20 something I think.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Yeah, I understand the frustration! Have you tried out the set list function? You'd have to put in a bit of work to organise them yourself, but you can add up to 32 kits per list with up to 32 lists and you can name them whatever you like. You access it by hitting [F1] on the Drum Kit screen. Might be a halfway solution to organise them however you like?

@jamessullenriot Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop I never thought of using set list but that is an excellent use case. I only use a handful of their kits and then a few drum-tec kits and a few of yours. Probably between 20-30 kits I rotate between so I'm going to do that! Thanks for the tip. It still doesn't get Rolands horrible kit organization off the hook though 😂I used to have a strike module and theirs was the same way but they didn't have a view which logically grouped things together.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Hope it gets you closer to where you want to be! The only other thing I can think of is using the Copy Menu's "Exchange" function to swap your kits to the slots you want. So you go to KIT EDIT > OTHER > COPY > COPY KIT then choose the kit slots, but hit EXCHANGE instead of COPY. This swaps the kit slots around. However, doing it for all of them would take quite a long time since you have to do them one by one 😵‍💫 As you say, neither of them fix the root of the issue but they're workarounds that can help make your module more suited to your own needs!

@jamessullenriot Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Another great idea - thanks a lot!

@thierry.lavallee Год назад

Any idea how to set a button to set the TAP TEMPO? I would like to tap on a button rather that assign to a pad, which would change my tempo while I play.

@peterrobbemond Год назад

Also, still no option to turn the metronome on or off with a foot switch (like on the SPD-SX)… :(

@junahvideoplayer Год назад

Hi Luke, i just got the VAD504 kit, and the digital Hi-Hat keeps getting stuck with the chocked sound when playing an open hi-hat, like if i had my hand muting it. Have you heard anything about this?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Hi. I have heard of a few people having this issue and it seems to be a hardware problem with the pad itself. When other people have turned off the touch choke feature entirely (I can't remember the exact setting off the top of my head, maybe "Choke Sens"?), they have managed to stop it from happening. So this makes me think that the touch choke sensor is somehow triggering when it shouldn't be. I would recommend getting in touch with Roland and having it checked under your warranty, the "workaround" really shouldn't need to be done to have a usable set of hi-hats.

@maddo7192 Год назад

Thx!

@avolaruruguay4625 Год назад

Hi nice video , can you tell me the difference between the Roland TD 27 kv and the kvs ? thanks

@nonyabusiness6084 Год назад

Of course they didn't add all that, they want you to buy a TD50.

@mauribatero Год назад

Hi guys, I have a VAD 506, almost 2 years old, and allready had to fix 5 pads cause they wouldn´t trigger right. Now the TD27 Module stops sounding every 2-3 weeks in the middle of a gig, so I turn it OFF and ON to get it sounding again. Did anybody have this problem? This started after I upgraded to 2.0 firmware. Thx.

@damianrjames Год назад

why is it that your toms look more like acoustic toms? did you also change the skins?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

My kit is an acoustic to electronic conversion - I put drum triggers inside larger shells. So I just use the TD-27 module with this kind of pad setup rather than an entire Roland kit.

@barryschwarz Год назад

Christ on a crutch this is specialist. How did I get here?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

😅 Nice to have you here, either way!

@TheLyonkoke Год назад

Thanks for the review. Great as always. Roland is still miles away from having a decent / realistic sound compared to mimic pro or yamahaa. There is just no contest... I mean those toms sound just terrible.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Thank you 🙏 They definitely have a very different approach.

@IansDrumsandBass 8 месяцев назад

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking - the toms on my new Alesis Nitro Max sound 10 x better - is Roland losing the plot? Those toms sound heavily digitalised and not AT ALL natural. Even my TD11KVs toms sound better and I don't even like those, but they do sound more real. These toms are terrible.

@baterizmo Год назад

Boy do those new kits still sound rubbish 😂😂😂 Really liked your kit though...the one on min 04:00... I'd love to be able to buy it.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

The secret is that it was my YamRecCust A kit with the S40s Maple snare samples, Classic Maple kick and Room tom samples (I think I'm remembering all of those right). I think I changed the main kick instrument too to the Close Mic kick and adjusted the tunings on the toms and snare to match. Changed the room to a larger one, added some more compression and that's pretty much all of it! I can't sell it because the samples aren't mine, so maybe that helps 🙂

@baterizmo Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks, Luke... very nice of you. I'll update my 27 and try it. Do you do Zoom "lessons"...not like a drum lesson (I like your drumming too, don't get me wrong), but more like a consultation on sounds and stuff?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

No problem! Unfortunately I don't, sorry. It's something I've had requested a few times but I don't have the time for it in my schedule unfortunately.

@baterizmo Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop is the "YamRecCust A kit with the S40s Maple snare samples" one of your custom kits? And if so, can you please give a link. Thanks in advance

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

@@baterizmo No, I was explaining how to customise the YamRecCust A kit yourself to make it sound like the one in the video. The samples I mentioned are stock v2 user samples that come with the new software.

@charliecray5554 Год назад

Please help! I cant figure out how to change the volume of the sub inst!? I see the volume bar but how do you adjust it??

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Please don't spam my comments section, I try to reply to comments when I'm able to but this actually makes it harder to see what needs attention. I replied on other comments, but you just need to press right so that the value is highlighted by the Sub Volume bar then adjust with the dial.

@KORSO_TANDEM Год назад

hi! is it lemon hi hat 12? and whats second crash?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Yes, I'm using the Lemon LE-HHC12 here. Crash 1 is a CY-15R, crash 2 is an ATV aD-C18.

@dewayne5533 Год назад

Does your kits work with yamaha dtx6k3-x?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Unfortunately not, sorry. Any kits that are made on one module will only work on that particular module. I don't currently have a DTX-PRO module to develop for, hopefully I'll be able to in the future.

@dewayne5533 Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks man, I'm actually in the process of getting a set of roland td27kv2 😆, how would I go about getting these kits you make?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Oh nice, I hope you enjoy the TD-27 when it arrives! My kits come as digital downloads, so you purchase them from theedrumworkshop.com/collections/td27-kits and the files will be emailed to you. You can then install them to your module with an SD card. I have a video tutorial here that you can watch to get familiar with the process - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8wK5hN-ReQE.html But the kits do also come with written instructions included in the download! The demo videos, kit loading tutorial and manuals are all available on each product page too. I hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to send an email through the contact form on the website and I'll do what I can to assist.

@dewayne5533 Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thank you

@jezusmylord Год назад

listening to this i wonder why on earth did i buy td27, i will never use any of those options lol

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

If it meets your needs without delving into anything, it's still worthwhile!

@jezusmylord Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop it does, but my td17 did too. Its not like a regret uprading but im feeling like i didnt need too lol.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

@@jezusmylord Gotcha. Are you using the digital pads/do you plan to?

@jezusmylord Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop oh im just a poor boy from a poor eastern europe, maybe one day but not soon. Probably will upgrade the ride first as i use the atv 18 one now so i can get a big chunk of the digital price from it.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

@@jezusmylord I understand! Yeah, selling the ATV would definitely take care of a large part of the digital ride. But of course you don't need the digital pads to enjoy the module. I do still think the 27 is a step up from the 17 regardless, but how much will always depend on the person using it!

@oli8956 10 месяцев назад

Does the Version two fix the HiHat Problems?

@TheeDrumWorkshop 10 месяцев назад

What hi-hat problems are you experiencing?

@junebugsmithington Год назад

I think it's good enough as it is, Jesus, you don't want much do you?

@terrygrady8413 Год назад

I updated mine and still not impressed with the new kits without a great deal of tweeking. Roland for some reason still fill the unit up with sounds than will never be used. I still prefer my kits that I have spent a lot of time making them sound like good kits, that is actually only 1 kit with 2 different snares and rooms sounds. Pretty much like any drummer would do with an acoustic kit. What Roland really need to do is fix the stupid card menu, it is primitive. In the modern world when most e drummers connect their kit to a computer why are we still forced to edit and work in a tiny little window and move your stupid card into the computer to do anything else. Then the way Roland sorts and numbers kits is annoying. So much so it really pisses me off.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

Roland's new SPD-SX Pro app is very good and I really hope they put a bit of time developing an app for their modules that lets you easily drag and drop samples and make edits on a larger screen. Unfortunately I don't really expect them to do it, but it would be so useful.

@terrygrady8413 Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop It is silly when some cheap guitar FX pedals give you full control and editing when connected to a PC. About Time Roland woke up and had a chat with their Boss R&D who have been doing it for years.

@IansDrumsandBass 8 месяцев назад

That's what I noticed too, it sounds like one kit which they've just manipulated the reverb, EQ, etc to call it different kits You can fool some of the people someof the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

@JesusPiano Год назад

Hi, would you mind make a video listing from very top to bottom (or viceversa) all the Roland Modules that worth it from say the td07 up? I want to replace my 07 and I dont really reach in money to the 50 neither 30 and other than that, the list confused me a lot Also, Im not even sure which one on "the list" are outdated by now It will also be great to know which of them either have bluetooth included or at least the possibility of adding it somehow Thanks very much in advance :)

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

The current generation is TD-02 (very new, very basic), TD-07, TD-17, TD-27 and TD-50X. Anything else is from the previous generation (TD-11, TD-15, TD-25, TD-30) or older. There are still some older modules that are worthwhile if they do what you want, but the "standard" upgrade path would be one of the next ones in the current generation. Justin at 65 Drums did a great video last year of all of the Roland kits worth buying but of course that's full kits with pads and there have been some new kit configurations since then.

@JesusPiano Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks so much :) Somehow never reach me a notification that you reply to this question and I just seen it right now, "by chance", while I made you another question right now on this very same video 😀 Thanks very much for all your assistance 👌🍻 ADDED: Um, I guess you may have turned on the ability to"approve" comments before they showed up and thats perhaps why, correct? And that's why I do not see my new question already, right? In anycase, thanks so much, learning a lot in here. Perhaps even too much as its not cheap 🤣

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

@@JesusPiano I only need to approve comments if they get filtered as potential spam or something. Sometimes the comment section is automatically sorted in weird ways though so you can post one and it will be further down than expected. But whatever has happened, your other comment has appeared fine for me!

@JesusPiano Год назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks :) Would you say a simple YES or NO? Would not like to make another mistake (though I will not call the 07 a mistake thats not accurate at all) *then I could perhaps delete the other comment, maybe its not the greatest comment/question to be in a video 😀

@TheeDrumWorkshop Год назад

@@JesusPiano I wouldn't want to be responsible for someone else's purchases, so I'll never explicitly say "yes, do this". It's always your choice and you have to weigh it up. However if I was in your position and could afford it, I would definitely buy those for €1500. *Edit - I did reply to your other comment, by the way!