Week One with the Alesis Strata Prime

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Documenting my first week with the new Alesis Strata Prime electronic drum kit. From unboxing to trigger setup, playing the kit, using the module and my thoughts about whether the Strata Prime is a good eDrum set.
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*TM-1 & RT-MicS may require additional software to load samples
00:00 - Unboxing
03:07 - Setting Up
05:11 - Dialling In
09:14 - Troubleshooting MIDI
11:08 - Playing & Problems
15:10 - Kick Trigger Issues
16:29 - 7 Day Review
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Комментарии : 176

@scottsimo3170 Месяц назад

Finally, a decent non ad review. Good on You.

@scott8786 Месяц назад

This is the review I've been waiting for! You are the MVP of the eDrum community. Thank you so much.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thank you 🙏

@LongingArc 23 дня назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop would you recommend buying this kit for a beginner-intermediate drummer? Also could you share your settings with me? I have no idea how I would get the correct settings haha

@ozthekeymaster Месяц назад

Now this, children, is how to do a review. 👍👏👏 Awesome job, cheers Luke!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thank you 🙏

@alvarohernandez2764 Месяц назад

You don't understand, those are the best voices, finetuned by the best studios. Hit it baby! "Lets go to room click" "Double back a little" "Lets go to, lets go to room click" "Double dibidi double back a little"

@flbchbm 10 дней назад

double-back to the future

@MR_Robbers Месяц назад

I love that there's a voice on a few samples...signature!

@jamessullenriot Месяц назад

This is a great review. As a VAD 506 owner I not in the market but would have envy of 3 things. 1: The 3 zone cymbals 2: the built in sounds (actually I think to my ear, Alesis always excels with that) and 3: the module touchscreen

@iandguzman Месяц назад

I own both alesis strike pro and just recently bought a roland td27kv2 and the strike is eating dust now. Cant even sell it. Once u go Roland, u never go back!

@Ludo_A Месяц назад

I have a VAD 507 and had exactly the same thoughts/envy. The included BFD library and kits sound great. That is why I use SD3, EZ3 with my 507 and of course the kits that Luke makes for the TD 27 😄

@shackelfro Месяц назад

@@iandguzmancould you say more about this? I'm making a decision potentially between the strata prime and a Roland currently!

@iandguzman Месяц назад

@@shackelfro Choose Roland. It features digital snare, rides, and hats, which are significantly superior to Alesis. The quality and technology provide ample reasons to prefer it over any Alesis kit. Embrace the innovation.

@superwotan Месяц назад

Thank you for this superb video. I was on the edge on purchasing it, but after seeing your review I will definitely wait.

@mikosoft Месяц назад

This is the best video on Strata Prime I've seen. The initial set up was a treat to watch.

@squidskunk Месяц назад

iv been waiting for your input on this kit. thanks.

@JonnyRobinson 25 дней назад

Man this is a great review, I have watched loads and yours is the first to really pick it apart.

@482jpsquared Месяц назад

Excellent, fair and granular review, as we've come to expect and appreciate from you, Luke! I really appreciated that you drilled into and analyzed some of the triggering issues and showed the viewer how you were able to correct them.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thank you John! 🙏

@ianmclean5541 Месяц назад

Thank you Luke for another highly detailed thorough review. You do great work, my friend.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thanks 🙏

@jonnyfgroove Месяц назад

Thanks Luke! I've been waiting for this one.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Enjoy!

@LordPlaythellSteele-er4qi 6 дней назад

Such a great review. Huge thank you sir...

@kitdinker Месяц назад

Excellent review. Thank you!

@astronaut2005drummer Месяц назад

Great review! The new Alesis drum looks cool and the module too. Great sounds. Thanks for sharing with us your point of view of this new piece of gear. :)

@MR_Robbers Месяц назад

Great demo man! I'll be revisiting this once I buy. Super

@bruceperkins2921 Месяц назад

the more hear this kit. the more im digging it

@EDCaub Месяц назад

Great honest review!

@marvinpaerran8858 Месяц назад

the most informative StrataPrime video so far 👍

@NigelMarston Месяц назад

I have a Roland TD27KV2 with an extra tom and crash. I like it - it just works - out of the box I never had to set it up with trigger sensitivity or crosstalk. However, I REALLY love that Alesis has different sized tom pads and I also like that slot feature for the ends of the rack tubes. The sounds are good too - going to see if I can buy/download them and pump them into my kit.

@kierenmoore3236 Месяц назад

My plan was to buy a 27KV2 … now this new Alesis has popped up … Sounds like I should just stick to Plan A, tho ‘ …

@steevidrums Месяц назад

I knew you come in with the answering some of the questions that have sprung to mind when this was released and and everyone was going ape shit. This is why YOU ARE the man to go to for edrum reviews that really delve into the finer points of a system and not be over-wowed with the bells and whistles. Of course, buyer purchase in me had a degree of protective bias over this when a bunch of people started calling it a Mimic Slayer, especially as some rumours where circling of the Mimic's end of life, (which has since been dispelled too... so who knows) But I concede it's an excellent addition to the edrum market, it's extremely competitively priced and does sound fantastic. I cannot wait until you do a follow up! PS. Hope your USA tour went well mate. Best wishes, your most loyal fan from Wales (or any other place!)

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thanks Steve 🙏 The tour went great but completely flew by! Yeah, I don't think the Mimic power users have much to fear at the moment. If some of these issues are resolved and plenty of expansions get released, maybe we'll have to reassess that situation!

@ChontosDrumLessons Месяц назад

Luke with another exceptional review. Way to go, man!!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thanks Jared 🙏

@Iamadrummer Месяц назад

As others have found out, extra triggering and crosstalk can be dialed to limit it, but no matter how you adjust for it, it can not be completely dialed away. I do think the Strata Prime e-kit is an improvement over the Strike Pro Se e-kit, but... I think it is too expensive for not a perfect kit. It is nice to see Alesis coming out with better higher-end e-kits rather than just crappy budget friendly e-kits, but I do think the Strata Prime kit needs some improvements before I would concider buying it. From the honest reviews I have seen, I feel Alesis did not do enough testing on this kit to find the issues many that have played this kit had and fixed them. I do think in the future, Alesis will have a high-end e-kit worth buying, but as of now, I really can not recommend Alesis as a good brand to buy. For less money than the Alesis Strata Prime e-kit, there are better functioning high-end e-kits from other brands out there. Also, I do not like how Alesis has marketed the Strata Prime kit. They seemed to send the kit to quite a few internet drummers and had them show how great the kit is. Sadly, I feel those reviews only showed that the kit is great and totally worth getting. You need to weed through those reviews and get honest reviews from the ones that did not get sent the kit but bought one or had an opportunity to play one. Those reviewers not only showed the good aspects of the kit but also pointed out all the cons and flaws the kit has. Your review, as always, is one of the more honest ones.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thank you 🙏 Yeah, I think I agree that you could forgive some of Alesis' other kits due to the incredibly low price. This kit has strayed into a price range where there is a lot of solid competition and the trigger performance at least isn't punching at a high enough level currently. The module is the flashy selling point but that can only go so far if there are problems with it.

@howiethedrummer Месяц назад

Great in depth review!!!

@CodyBDrums Месяц назад

Regarding the bass drum triggering issue, I have had the same exact issue. I believe i’ve completely fixed it by making sure the tightness of the head is equal the whole way around. Same thing with the snare. And I made them both a little extra tight which seemed to help too. But I see you’ve removed the head completely and reinstalled it and still have the same issue. It worked for me however. I could definitely see how the mesh head not being equally tuned all the away around could cause some triggering issues.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Interesting to hear that this fixed it for you! Yeah, I've had the head off and tried a few tensions but not seen any improvement so far. I'm usually pretty good at getting things even by feel alone and it's not an issue I've really run into with other kicks except the one mentioned in the video, but I'll crack out the drum dial and see if getting all the lugs exactly the same helps. Cheers!

@sampilsbury9415 3 дня назад

Zero crosstalk or miss triggering with my Roland VAD

@amoscampista5380 28 дней назад

Hi! Thanks for the great video. Would you mind sharing what settings you adjusted to dial-in the strata prime? I just purchased one and don’t have a midi set up. I would certainly appreciate having it dialed in like yours.

@johndef5075 Месяц назад

Roland stuff triggers so good out of the box. Even used stuff. I would not be happy with these problems at that price.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I always have to tweak Roland triggers to my preference but it's rare that I'm "troubleshooting" them, for sure. There have been a small handful of times where I've had a genuine faulty part but otherwise it's a pretty hassle free experience with Roland triggers. I agree that this kit pushes too far into a higher price range for its performance at the moment.

@cliffordswinscoe1584 Месяц назад

Great review - as a fan of Roland reliability, I was thinking of upgrading to the Td27kv2, then the Alesis Strata came along which caused a dilemma......think I'm going to wait a few months to see if the Alesis has any unresolved issues before I make a decision. !!

@ArgonautDrums Месяц назад

Great stuff dude!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thanks 🙏

@Kozouakumachan9079 22 дня назад

Awesome alwais✰you are the best drummer!!🥁🎶⚡✨🌠🌟👌🏻👍🏼

@symunut9316 Месяц назад

So how do you configure the outputs to play live other than left and right? That will upset sound engineers. My Strike Pro SE is great because you can adjust all toms, cymbals, kick, hat, and snare separately.

@johnsonqjohnson 23 дня назад

it will be the new Zildjian kit for me ...this was a great review

@TheTruth70777 Месяц назад

Just for the sound and feel, should I buy this or the Roland TD27 KV2

@tbip2001 Месяц назад

On the stratas kits, is there a way of turning up and down the ‘room mics’ ? Often this is what really makes a kit sound acoustic. There very dry processed sounds are exactly that, but bring up the room mics and eberything starts to sound much more natural

@allan_rossine Месяц назад

Wonderfull!

@KimberKustom Месяц назад

This is how you do an entertaining review.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thank you 🙏

@jezusmylord Месяц назад

This review looks hella funny and good after 10 seconds allready

@NielsHeusinkveld Месяц назад

Thanks. I've noticed all cymbal thresholds are broken, you need to hit 3x the set threshold to hear something. At a threshold of 4, soft hihats for example are lost as this is a 12 threshold. How do you find the cymbal edge sensitivity? I find I have to go quite close to minimum (1.0) sensitivity in order to have to hit 'fairly hard' to max it out. I also think I've had some regular hits on snare and kick registering as lower velocity, but I could just be pants.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Interesting, I'll have to look into that more closely! Regarding the edge sensitivity, I didn't notice anything too weird about it but I'll definitely check over it again.

@alanvaughan2937 21 день назад

Great review and once again Alesis has blown it's load to early ......what about the load in times when switching from kit to kit with effects added

@shackelfro Месяц назад

Thanks for the very informative video! I'm trying to decide at the moment between kits in this sort of price range. Do you (or anyone else in the comments section) have thoughts about how this compares to other kits in this general price range, the roland td27kv2, td50, vads, efnotes etc? I'm down a bit of a rabbit hole, as to whether the digital snare and cymbals are things I actually "need" versus are marketing hype. Any thoughts appreciated!

@Garagedrummer Месяц назад

Luke…finally! Let’s go

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Hope you enjoyed it!

@davo0593 29 дней назад

Hi Luke. Please if it is possible would You try the 18 inch arc cymbal with the edrumin interface? To test if you can get working all the three zones? Please please please.

@davo0593 Месяц назад

Hi luke. Will you test the arc cymbals with other modules including the edrumin?

@davo0593 Месяц назад

And will you open the pads to see how are they inside?

@oldcmputer Месяц назад

I thought the loose cymbals were normal but I got that same issue on my roland kit :( First E-kit. Is it better for the tom/snare mesh heads to use nylon tips or am I fine w/ a fresh pair or wood tips? I don't use felt on the kick but not sure about sticks on toms for longevity / durability.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I wouldn't worry about wood tips, I've used them for years with no issues. If you have any chips in the sticks or bits begin to fray, that's where the problems might come in. I've actually had a nylon tip damage a head before because it had a little sharp point at the end that hadn't been smoothed over. It caught the mesh and unpicked it a bit which then went on to get worse. If I was to go with nylon tips, I'd run some sandpaper over the tip to make sure.

@aaronsudasna 22 дня назад

Great video, Luke! I was wondering if you have tested the module with other pads/cymbals yet? I’m sure at some point you’ll address this in another video, but wasn’t sure if you’d tried that out yet. 🥂

@thewinegeekdan Месяц назад

Can’t believe Alesis didn’t send you a review kit!! Probably scared of your technical prowess!!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I wouldn't like to presume why I wasn't sent one!

@thewinegeekdan Месяц назад

Thank you very much!!!

@thewinegeekdan Месяц назад

Thank you for the info

@petersinol 16 дней назад

How good are sounds of this module compared to mimic?

@thewinegeekdan Месяц назад

Great review!!! How does the Prime module compare sound wise to the Mimic?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thank you! 🙏 They have very different sound characters, to be honest. I feel like the Prime sounds are generally punchier in the mid-range - feels like there's a lot of presence around the 2K range and more top-end in general. They also feel very transient-heavy, but then the SSD sounds in the Mimic could be described similarly. There's a "closeness" to the Prime samples compared to the typical Slate "big room" sound. You'd be best served by just listening to as many demos as possible though really because some of that can be adjusted anyway and it's all a matter of preference.

@thewinegeekdan Месяц назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thank you!!

@adamgarner711 24 дня назад

Another very informative review. Love the depth and topics covered in this review. I’m a hardcore Roland user, have been open minded about moving. This kit has a lot of positive aspects. The triggering issues are a big no go at the price point. If you want to compete with Roland, Alesis needs to ensure the trigger performance at this price point is better.

@JHPRS Месяц назад

I own this kit, bought it on day 1. The main thing that concerns me is that you can't make backups for kits, instruments, and settings. I really hope this comes in an update. :)

@galwaytribesman9289 Месяц назад

That was a tasty fill at 12:55 man

@jasonwright4144 Месяц назад

Could you show how you set it up to record with Reaper and how you got isolated drum tracks?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I didn't get isolated drum tracks, I just ran the two XLR outputs into two inputs on my interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i20), set up a stereo track for those two inputs in Reaper and recorded those. So it's just a stereo recording of the master outputs. I also recorded the MIDI by running a DIN MIDI cable from the Prime's MIDI out to the interface's MIDI in port.

@tbip2001 Месяц назад

Really want to know abiut pad compatibility with the module especially diy centre triggers . I’m considering a edum 10 and then seeing what the cheapest laptop/micro pc/vst software is to create my own ‘module’ Would be great to see just how little it can be done for. I reckon these days a 200 quid laptop with an older i7 proccessor should be able to handle ezdrummer

@mikebruni9881 Месяц назад

I've had this kit a few days and I did have to tweak the kick trigger settings a bunch. I haven't noticed the variable velocity issue over the last few hours of playing. I'm pretty heavy footed, so the threshold is higher than you'd typically think would be OK. One also has to open the hi hats quite deliberately, and slightly before the strike which I typically don't do on my acoustics. Not sure if that's a me thing or not. I'm enjoying the quality of the samples quite a lot, and that ambiance is handled with separate adjustable mic channels and not just processing. SFSG I'd say.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Glad that the velocity issue hasn't hit you. I'll continue to work on it, there's always a chance it's something simple that I've overlooked. I hope so anyway, I want it to work well! The hi-hat lifting thing is quite common on electronic kits in general to be honest. There aren't really any that perform exactly as acoustic ones do, though I think Roland's digital hi-hats play better than the Strata's and I hear great things about EFNOTE's hi-hats (I only tested briefly at The UK Drum Show last year, didn't have enough time to get a proper idea about it).

@eDrumsInANutshell Месяц назад

That was awsome, mate! Thank you! 3500$ ... Again, I will stay with my 4 eDRUMins, 6 Alesis pads, Lemon cymbals, 2x DIY snares, 2x Roland KD-7 :-) and Superior Drummer 3. And since I am as nerdy as you, everthing is dialed in perfectly. Damn, I really have to do a video for the german guys about the eDRUMin and my GAS (gear aquisition syndrome) and the Lemon cymbals. Just puchased 3 cute little 9" splash pads and a 15" china. I recently changed my setup from 2 rack toms to three. So, there is one of to high toms left. What would you do with that pad?

@zetalin 19 дней назад

Hi. What size Meinl mat is that? It looks like the 4.6' x 5.25' I am trying to gauge space requirements

@TheeDrumWorkshop 19 дней назад

*Edit - found my order invoice. It's the MDR-BK 160cm x 200 cm (so that's 5.25' x 6.5ft). I bought it as it's the same size as my Protection Racket mat.

@zetalin 18 дней назад

Awesome! Thanks so much!

@williamperri3437 Месяц назад

Excellent review! What band were you touring with in the USA and where did you go were you anywhere near Philadelphia?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

The band is Sonic Boom Six and we were indeed, we played at This Is Not Croydon Fest in Bensalem.

@williamperri3437 Месяц назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop very cool! I’ll look them up. I live about 40 minutes from Bensalem. I actually was in a band in high school with somebody from Bensalem.

@Protpally70 Месяц назад

I have had the kit for a few weeks. The kick issue drives me crazy when I play. Can’t wait to find out how to fix it.

@suatbaylav7623 Месяц назад

I have the same issue

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I'm glad it's not just me that's experienced this! If I find the fix, I'll be sure to update!

@fernandogoncalves7188 Месяц назад

Hi, do you think the strata snare will work with Strike Performance module, I made my own trigger bars, they work great with the module except for the snare,even with DIY 3 cone system.....I am thinking to buy Strata snare from Drum Tec,is not very expensive. Thanks

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I haven't tested it yet but I plan to in the future, along with testing the pads on other modules. Not sure when it'll be but stay tuned.

@fernandogoncalves7188 Месяц назад

I have emailed Drum Tec ,and the strata snare , indeed works well with the strike performance module, Thanks

@Drum2 Месяц назад

Good review. Looks a lot better than previous Alesis kits. But I can't do without the X-Sticks on my Roland Digital snare. No MIDI over USB?? that's killed it for me, as that's what I use the most.

@whoathatcombo Месяц назад

would you recommend this set for a church?

@Ludo_A Месяц назад

Great review and drumming Luke! You know your stuff. A 'normal' novice buyer will not be able to tweak things like you do/can.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thank you 🙏

@josephflannery6136 Месяц назад

As a newer owner of this kit. I can say I am astounded by this thing. The way that it both feels AND sounds like an acoustic kit is so great. Yes, the cymbals are rubber, but their triggers are spot on. The feel of them are great, and you can see they're built pretty well. I've been having a blast with this kit ever since I've got it. My one problem I've encountered was from the drum key screw on Tom One. I went to re tighten it, and it ended up stripping, which sucks. easy to fix, but it is good to keep noted that the screws aren't the strongest and worth looking into getting some backups eventually. Other than that, however, no problems. Highly recommend

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I'm glad you're enjoying it and haven't run into any issues that affect the playability. That's a shame about the screw stripping - did you have a matching gold tension rod or did you just go with a regular one?

@bobvanster Месяц назад

Hey mate I rented this kit vs purchasing due to my hearing sensitive issues. So far it's been not too bad with the option of purchasing it. So far I'm digging it. They did address alot of the issues the Strike had. Not being a 2 ft player. I put the front part of the rack on the ride side so I can have 3 Toms up 1 ft down. I did notice the issue with the kick

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Glad to hear you've been enjoying it. Do you think you'll go on to purchase it?

@bobvanster Месяц назад

@TheeDrumWorkshop If my hearing can tolerate it, most likely. I get almost $400 CAD and my rental fee off since it was the store demo which is in mint condition. It is cheaper than the roland DP back I had purchased 7 years back I have till the 20th to decide 🙃

@bobvanster Месяц назад

@TheeDrumWorkshop Like I posted on our forum. I wonder if rhe Crimson/Command style pads vs the KV style of the Strike was due to being sued by Roland which Alesis lost from what I understand.

@doublestrokeroll Месяц назад

Just a couple of questions out of curiosity from a BFD user. Does this kit come with BFD kits in the module? Thought I saw that mentioned in other reviews. If so, how would you say it compares to playing BFD off a computer? Specifically the HHs. I get my hats dialed in pretty damn good with my edrumin 10 but I've always wondered how good BFD hats would sound built into a module. Anyway...great review and thanks for the content.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

It does come with some BFD kits, but they're not all BFD kits, as far as I understand it. It's running the "BFD Sound Engine", but I believe that the core "Prime" library is a new set of samples for this module. There's also the BFD "Dark Farm" expansion in the module, though I don't know if the presets that are included are taken directly from the expansion or not. Unfortunately I don't have BFD to verify anything regarding the playability between the module and the software, sorry. Edit - Oh, and there's the BFD Percussion Collection library in there too.

@doublestrokeroll Месяц назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Cool. Thanks for the response. It will be interesting to see where this goes. Perhaps a very high end Alesis with full BFD kits or something.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I would be surprised if they don't eventually offer all of the samples eventually through (probably paid) expansions.

@JustanEdrummer Месяц назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop The Dark Farm is 90GB so it's definitely not 1:1 on the Strata, it's some light version of it.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

@@JustanEdrummerAh yeah, definitely not the full version then since the whole stock library is only 40GB. That could explain some of the seemingly low round robin counts I can hear on some instruments. I haven't looked into the full instrument list of that expansion either so I don't know if there's anything omitted there.

@femali Месяц назад

So does the module actually have to be connected to the Internet to use it at all?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

No, it doesn't. I just knew there was a day one firmware update that I wanted to carry out without downloading it manually.

@AdversaryNemesis1124 9 дней назад

I really hope that Alesis sees this video!

@fVNzO Месяц назад

Damn this module sounds good. I know it's been beaten to death but I'm still surprised at how far ahead these more "budget" brands are to Roland these days. I think Roland is still superior in triggering and VST support off course, but if you just want an out of the box experience without the hassle of getting a VST (and without the wallet flattening experience), this is just *better* . Very good review as always. May i ask you a small question how'd you get that veneer on your PD-140DS? Is it a custom wrap? :)

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I do agree that Roland are being left behind in the sounds department. I hope whatever's next is an improvement! Regarding the wrap - it's just a cheap adhesive vinyl wrap that I bought and stuck on the shell myself. I have a video that covers it along with some other upgrades I made a few years ago - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S23Vhx4cRQk.html

@muzomonty6616 Месяц назад

I guess the big question, is it reliable enough to use live on stage?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Currently for me - no. Others may beg to differ, but I couldn't trust it without solving the triggering issues and without having tested it for longer for durability (especially the clamps and cymbal booms).

@D-Squared Месяц назад

Is there not a closed foot dial to adjust how tight your full close is?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

There are settings that you can adjust for the closing point, so the physical point at which the hi-hats close. If you wanted to make the hi-hats close at an earlier point in the pedal's travel, you can do that. But there's no pressure sensitivity to allow for "extra tight". If that makes sense.

@D-Squared Месяц назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop it does. I currently have the strike pro se and was planning on buying this. I was hoping the hot spotting would no longer be an issue. If you had the SE would you recommend upgrading to this kit?

@marknorton2429 Месяц назад

Been waiting for this! Your reviews are so much more in-depth. You haven't posted a video for a while, didn't know if you were still alive! What's the deal with the promotion of this new "magnetic" hi hat controller?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Thanks Mark! This is sort of halfway between first impressions and a review, I suppose! The DWe review burned me out a bit so I took some time out. I did have a short point about the hi-hat but I cut it because I didn't want to get my terminology wrong. But as I understand it, it's not really entirely new. I've been told that the original 2Box hi-hat was effectively the same kind of controller and that other magnetic controllers have existed. Since I don't know all of the ins and outs of the electronics or all of the controllers that have existed, I didn't want to commit to that point on camera in case I've got the details wrong!

@jackfetter Месяц назад

For whatever reason I am not impressed with the sounds? I have watched several Strata Prime vids and they all sound flat and dry (is it me?). I have a Roland TD-9 v2 with V Expressions "Master 50" and it sounds fatter, wetter and just more pleasing (granted, personal preference may be involved). Question I have, should I go with the VAD 307 (limited TD-17 brain expansion, outputs and features), if I feel the sounds are overall better, or buy this kit and just accept the sounds are better, just maybe not what I've heard in the demos? I know the TD-17 head is limited, I'm a recreation drummer, no need for assignable outputs, additional inputs or sampling (I have a separate sampler) or extra memory. What kit would you buy today for $4K'ish? Money isn't the driving factor at all for me, I find the Alesis sounds just blah...

@jackfetter Месяц назад

Question 2: Drum-Tec has the VAD 307 with the TD-27 v2 module @ a great price (roughly $3,100 USD, shipped), would you still choose the Alesis Strata Prime?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

It's totally fine to not like the sounds! There is the option to wet the kits up a lot with real room ambience or reverb etc, so that could be remedied. However, if you really don't like the overall character of the samples then it just might not be for you! I don't like to give out definitive purchasing advice, but I would say generally - if you prefer what you hear from the TD-17 or TD-27 (from your second comment) then following your ears isn't a bad idea! You're going to use the kit for a long time (hopefully!) So I'd probably say it's best to start off liking the sounds then going from there rather than trying to convince yourself otherwise.

@jackfetter Месяц назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Much appreciated, thank you!

@arsonne Месяц назад

Leaving voices in from the sample recording session is WILD.

@josephmedwid3790 24 дня назад

It's threshold for the kick drum issue same as Roland

@rcprod9631 10 дней назад

Wait for v2 and they'll have addressed a lot of these issues.

@1974hus Месяц назад

You can't beat Roland Or Yamaha when it comes to electronic kits!!!!

@NIJHR 19 дней назад

the kit is moving quite a bit while playing isn't it?

@TheeDrumWorkshop 18 дней назад

The snare in particular does, it needs a heavier stand to stay in place for the way I play. Everything else does wobble/move around when hit but once I tightened everything down (a lot), it all stays in place. I don't mind a bit of wobble/recoil from the pads when playing as long as the clamps don't come loose.

@KevinZ2269 Месяц назад

LOL it’s funny. I’ve seen like 20 reviews on this new set, and all of them made me want it. Until this review LOL. Bummer seems like it has lots of flaws

@djashjones Месяц назад

It's hard to find any unbiased review on anything on you tube. Too many shill's

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Sorry if I've put a downer on it for you! I would definitely recommend testing it out yourself if you get the chance to, as with any product. There's no guarantee that everyone else will run into the same things I have and going hands-on is the only way to work out if you gel with the "feel" of any kit.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

@@djashjones I think there are many reasons for different kinds of videos about products and I don't necessarily think that someone who makes a different kind of video is a shill. There are a few great reviews from people I trust. I also think the way I use or approach a kit is often different to how others might which is why different things come up. But some videos are definitely closer to promo videos than "reviews" which can make sifting through them difficult!

@djashjones Месяц назад

@@TheeDrumWorkshop I class you as a power user, therefore i trust you more. The other popular edrum channel is middle of the road type pro's and con's type. Then the shilling type, it's great, blah, blah.

@MrGaxar Месяц назад

Jesus at last. I only wish your review was longer and even more depth. Please do more as I’m very interested in this kit.

@dimakeylin Месяц назад

By the way, I also heard the voices at the end of the sample on some 2box drumit kits

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

😂 do you remember which kits/samples? I feel like I've heard some short snippets of either voices or other noises on some samples before, but I can't remember hearing full sentences!

@dimakeylin Месяц назад

@TheeDrumWorkshop unfortunately i don't remember 😞i noticed that when i loaded the samples into the strike editor. I'm ready to swear that I also heard something like this in some individual samples from superior drummer. P.S. I googled it, indeed, I’m not the only one who noticed something similar in Superior Drummer

@eDrumsInANutshell Месяц назад

@@dimakeylin No, you aren't! And this is pretty spooky - being at home, at night - on your drums and then these guys. WHAT the hell, who is ... !!?!?

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I'll be on the lookout now then!

@randalscandal1588 Месяц назад

Alesis put a completely non functioning Strike Pro kit out at NAMM so I wouldn't doubt them putting it out early.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Was that back in maybe 2016 where they just showed it but didn't play it?

@JustanEdrummer Месяц назад

or ATV showing off the ATV Pro kit with full size shells and the ATV expansion link which never came to fruition... it's cool to show stuff but bringing them to market is another thing... I know a guy who is developing his own "Drum Module" for 10 years and still hasn't shown a single thing about it... but he says it's going to beat them all once it's done, yeah right...

@zoktoberfest 11 дней назад

e-drum reviewers always forget to demonstrate how the set sounds un-amplified. The whole point of e-drums for me is the ability to practice and not enrage family and neighbors.

@DoctorMcFarlandStudios День назад

I am getting all kinds of missed hits on the Strata Prime.

@tlkshowhst 20 дней назад

The problem is with the round robin cycle. Some samples are not at the same velocity as the others. Also, the talking at the end of the sample is not a good look.

@itsgmani Месяц назад

Lmfaoooooo they didn’t cut out the voices 😂😂😂😂😂

@fartpooboxohyeah8611 Месяц назад

If this was a sub-$3000 kit like the Strike-Pro SE it it would be a bargain. Now? Well, you get one less cymbal pad and downgraded drum pads instead of shallow drum shells compared to the Strike Pro SE and it's still $700 more. Of course you get the new module and sounds which is the biggest selling point. It's probably the best sounding module on the market, but with such a price increase doesn't seem like the E-drum bargain it once was, not that it's not a fair bargain, but just doesn't scream, GREAT BARGAIN!

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I agree that it might be a little overpriced with this level of performance and hardware. The module's doing the heavy lifting with the tablet-style interface and sounds, but that can only carry things so far. I've seen a few previous Strike Pro owners suggest they've been priced out with this so it'll be interesting to see how this translates.

@jimbo121 Месяц назад

that's bfd for you, their samples have had voices in a lot of packs. Same with the mixwave kontakt kits you hear throne squeaks on tom hits and throat clearing. I find that so amateurish.

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

I wasn't aware of this being a known phenomena across BFD packs. I've heard of the odd noise on occasion in various sample packs and from experience I know it's difficult to spot the small ones at times, but full sentences is a new one to me!

@millerjimd 15 дней назад

1:13 drumroll please....

@williamparker1085 Месяц назад

son bought me an Alessi kit two years ago......hate them

@Leftysrpedos 17 дней назад

Ive never played an alesis set in a store that something wasnt working on it its always a cymbal or a drum that doesnt work or the bass drumhead has a hole in it lmao quality not so good.

@kierenmoore3236 Месяц назад

Marketing - (part of) the dark side of psychology …

@CanadianTexaninLiguria Месяц назад

The design flaw is putting a period in you wifi code 🤣

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

Why is that a flaw?

@jezusmylord Месяц назад

if those mounting holes are too small for roland um how thats called in english? shafts? (nooooo) thats for sure is intentional dick move and that is a strike one in my book for alesis

@TheeDrumWorkshop Месяц назад

They were the same on the Strike pads I had. I don't know if it's intentional in that way or if it's just a case of cost cutting (I'm sure slightly less metal will save a fair amount at scale!)

@jezusmylord Месяц назад

ok now thats just intentional dicksmithing right there