buddy would not one damn thing to do with electric drums and more than likely would tear anyone apart playing them , shit look up the video where he tore people apart for using matched grip .HE might of been the best drummer of all time but i think that no longer applies because there are cats out there that are doing some crazy shit buddy could never even comprehend .IMOP he was ignorant but a freak of nature nevertheless, but times were different back then .I dont know who this guy is in the video but he knows his stuff thats for sure .
a lot of the modern drummers Weckl ,Antonio Sanchez , and the even newer guys have all the old school knowledge as well as everything current. Antonio Sanchez is one of the best drummers on the planet
Actually from Jazz to Brutal Metal (Jazz/Blues, Rock, Grindcore, Black Metal, Death Metal, Progressive Metal, Doom Metal, Folk Metal). That's how his swing got brought to Metal music in the first place.
Kai did an excellent job, one of the greatest drummers of our time. That being said, Roland and Yamaha make some incredible E-Drum hardware, best in the business... But the sounds these new flagship modules are producing are, in my opinion, unacceptable. The sounds that you can acquire from nearly any VST these days or even the 2Box Drumit 5 module are just leaps and bounds above this. You may have used actual drum samples and recordings for this module, but that synth engine is just completely ruining it. For a standard out of the box module, I haven't heard anything better than the 2Box yet. And until companies like Roland, Yamaha, Alesis etc. start moving in this direction, things like Toontrack, EZ Drummer and Superior Drummer are going to continue to rule.
I absolutely agree - you can hear someone playing an e-drum kit after a few fast played bass-drum notes - and it' the year 2020!!! I use an older V-drum in my studio to trigger Superior Drummer and even this old V-Drum works fine as a trigger, but it's not understandable that Roland is not capable to include professional sounds in these kits that cost a fortune! Who in this world is spending just about 8.000,- € to play these sub standard sounds? I remember a friend who is working as a professional live mixer on musical tours trying to switch to Roland e-drums on a tour to ease-up the mix (containing an orchestra) - they gave it up after the first night - turned out to be a joke! That was around 2010 - obviously nothing changed in a whole decade! I just don't get it!
My kit was delivered just after Christmas. Setup was fairly easy! The frame is sturdy, well crafted and just right in everyway (Cables hidden in tubes) and I should note that it's a super clean setup for stage. My primary application is HoW ... space management and it's minimalist visual appeal work well for our congregation. We did the KD22a option and man that was such a good choice. The "gradient" (Smoke/Blk)on the shell looks amazing! I am a bit Mr. "twiddly knobs" but I have to say The sounds are phenomenal even with out getting tweak crazy! The heads can be "tuned" for playability and "bounce". AND you get individual 1/4" outputs for every part of the kit for ultimate control. The Digital Snare and Ride are like cra-cra. The quality of engineering and just artistry that went into just these components alone are a MAJOR upgrades over previous kits. The two piece 13" Hihat is also impressive. The bottom moving part is a bit tricky to get nailed down at first but man is it a big upgrade over the fixed HH of other E-Drum kits of the past. The Price tag is high ... BUT so is the quality! I'm still pretty NEW with this tech and kit but I have a BIG FAT ZERO% Buyer's Remorse with this. I almost never feel this good about my audio purchases cause I find something to quibble about in the first week but this may be the RARE exception. Just quality! Good on ya Roland! Big ups from H-Town!
I still got my Roland HD-3 V-Drums Lite kit, since 2012, wich I still love. Very solid e-drum, still like new! I recorded 318 videos using most of the HD-3 drum kit sounds. But the new TD-50 is fantastic!! Congratulations Roland!
The sound is a step forward......BUT it can not compete with high quality VST samples and for MY opinion also not with the sound of the MIMIC PRO. I have checked out all the videos available and the sound is still too much ROLAND and too less real drums. Specially the Cymbals do not sound good. Maybe it is too early to judge, it is just my impression and I am NOT blown away with that thing for such a high price tag. If the TD-50 would have real high quality onboard samples already I guess I would be convinced. Another bad taste is the digital USB cable of the CY18-DR.......which makes it useless for other drum modules. I am waiting for the Mimic Pro
I would say that roland makes the best hardware there is, then they make it even better leaving sound area behind. Sampled sounds are the future of Edrums. No matter how hard you try you will never replicate real drum sounds with the cpu, you can just record them.
"This advanced module also supports deep sound customization, including basic adjustment of heads and shells, layering of internal and user samples, and adjustment of overhead mics and ambience." I'm not native english speaker, but it seems that they talk about samples here.
You can assign your (user) samples to whichever pad you like. But you need to record those samples at a first place. It can be anything like hitting an iron bar. The VST sampled software is using record of a real drums recorded in advanced studios with many mics and at many different velocities. VST software itself isn't so expensive because it is hard to develope, but because it is hard to record.
the TD50 integrates actual recorded acoustic drums done in several world class studios using a huge range of microphones and drums at much higher samplerate than is normal for VST plugins. The synth engine then allows manipulation of every thing from direct, overhead and room sound through to skin type, drum depth, snare buzz, mic position, sub channel on kick and even tom resonance and transient shape. It's very fun to create your own sounds too!
I've just got the roland td50kv is a amazing kit the sound its just a good as drum software they sound real you get the boom and the overtones from toms and kick I've only owned for 4 days I'm very impressed with it and the editing its amazing to its truely the closes thing to acoustic kit.
Those who are complaining about the sounds still sounding fake, I agree and why I use additive drums for my realistic acoustic sounds. Why Roland hasn't figured this out blows my mind. I like the idea of a full size kick drum as long as it feels real, the kick, hats and cymbals feeling fake has been an issue for electronic drums. Roland and electronic drums still have so much further to go before they feel real or match an acoustic kit but still a great learning tool for any serious drummer.
I saw this set at a clinic in Calif when it first came out. It IS super imo. I have the TD-30 and felt mine was the "bomb" (good kind) . I would show my students how I could: change drum heads, change muffling - one piece of tape or two, eq my cymbals for different rooms or songs, etc. So I went to this clinic to see if I should consider this big upgrade and BIG price difference. I decided not to, but was impressed with the new ride cymbal/bell relationship. My TD 3O cymbals all have great bells, BUT in the TD 50 one would gradually change sounds as the drummer walked up his stick from the edge of the cym to the bell. OMG. Now if I didn't have my current set and had the disposable income (meaning with a "capital D") I would most likely get it.......and never look back.
*This approaches my idea of a studio MIDI-input rig.* The KD-A22 on a Pearl® 2214-size bass drum (Export should be the winner on cost) is all the depth needed to complement two each Roland® PD-85, PD-108-BC, and PD-128-BC tom pads, plus one each CY-12C, CY-13R, CY-15R-MG, and VH-11 cymbal pads and PD-128S-BC snare pad.
Nice job roland! Finally you managed to move from the 80's awful synthetized sound to the early 2000's basic less awful synthesized sound, now drummers can use bigger and better pads (long awaited feature!) to play their favorite Vst drum software. Yet, don't forget that roland modules are built to last forever and they are the best trigger modules in the market, the faster and the more accurate ones PD: Any way, best drummer ever for the demo, at last you understood that drummers want to play real music and not those fancy unmusical demos with werid sounds that only Michael Schack can make sound good
***** it seems (any way, I can't buy any of those things, too poor for that) Remember that one huge downside of Mimic Pro is that it have a touch screen and no buttons, for me that in a device that born to be hitted is a stupid idea... but, we will see
I do too, I love the Mimic Pro.......just love the new 18" Ride.......but I guess the new ride is useless with other Modules than the TD-50 due to the new "digital cable connection"????? Or would it work with other modules?
mrsayang We will need to wait until some one show and tries to connect it to other modules to see what limitations it will carry. Interesting feature that "Digital Cable"
You can still hear that it's samples being triggered. Roland is also compressing their sound files. I can actually hear the artifacts. Roland has not yet understood what others have that the room sound of the total kit is what makes up a lot of the sound. The samples sounds like they were recorded in different rooms. Check out some of the plugins on the marked that kicks Roland of the planet.
@@KinkyNothing LOL i though Denny's comment was because suddenly the guy looks like Lars but knows how to play lol... Lars still after all these years seems to be a little weak on the Drums!
@@b.a.1854 I think at some point he got bored of practicing, or it may be due to other responsibilities and the lack of time. He was way better in his youth, now he's out of shape. Lately he's been doing better than he has in ages, if not decades. That said I still admire his drumming. He holds a special place in my heart as a fellow drummer
@Bryce Thibodeaux Many performers (not artists) have released platinum albums. But they're just that, performers on their own featured album. They have nothing to do with the writing and composing. Your point is invalid. Oh, I love Metallica and even more Lars by the way
This is the Roland set up I’ve been looking for. Is this a special order or can I order this kit the way you have it! Any insight will be much appreciated!
yeah Mercury ...drummer and founding member of Cathedral and Industry checking in... and still using Roland TD 10.. I'm loving all you're great famous drummers and they're amazing ability to play. however I still haven't heard anything from the TD 30 or the TD 50 that impresses me.. at least by the video demos posted. I understand the Improvement since TD 10 however not seeing it on any of your posts other than impressive drum playing. in 2007 I recorded an album with Cathedral called The Bridge.... find it listen to it and you tell me what do you think. I believe that my Approach to electronic Roland drums is a much better example of Roland's incredible accomplishment.
Anyone know what preset he's using? My TD50 sounds nothing like this. I can't get the kick sounding any good. It either sounds like a basketball, or way too clicky. Also are all the sounds we're hearing straight off the module? No post production EQ and FX?
Better quality??? Rolands make the best E-gear by a mile! What are you talking about!!! I'd like them to be cheaper of course but saying the quality needs improvement is just plain false.
journeyseb Yes Roland has the best sound quality among the other brands but not even close to the real drum set, although it has improved over the years. It would be better if they focus mostly on acoustic sounds instead of useless techno/hip hop presets.
Roberto Ricci You need to be specific about what you mean by quality. The way you phrased your criticism, I thought you meant the build quality of the gear, not the quality of the sounds. Roland makes the best gear. I've been playing their V-Drums for years and have never had a single issue. I still suck as a drummer, but that is a separate issue. As far as sound quality goes, it is good, but I would agree that they could still could improve it a lot, absolutely.
there was a major focus on natural drum sounds with the new module. The recordings were made at 192khz 24 bit and numerous rare cymbals and kits were used including entire Jarrah, Stainless steel and bubinga kits and all sounds are available raw in the module or as processed as you like. There are many new sound sculpting features like transient designer, multi-band compressor designed to help you make exactly the sound you want too plus you can load your own recordings and samples so hopefully you can find your sound.
They don't seem to have improved the machine gunning problem of the TD-30 at all. Does anyone know if they improved the hihat so that it sounds real when closing it slowly while the hats are moving? Or if it sound better when you really dig into it?
I have a TD-25kv so I can tell you the problem is not that rampant in day-to-day use as it appears in these videos, the main problem being that the showcased artists probably don't get the time to really tweak the trigger sensitivity settings to their liking (the stock settings are way too sensitive IMHO), it's a problem seen in ALL of their videos but once I had spent some time getting it to where I want I'm able to get incredibly realistic performances on my kit :)
None of the music stores near me had the TD-50 module or kit in stock & what with my love for TD-30 i thought if it becomes available i will buy it. So when I saw the the TD-50 Upgrade kit on sale i bought it, played with for about a week now, it’s good but much to my dismay the digital snare & ride cancel out the analog inputs on the module (not possible for 2 three triggered rides) therefore reduce the amount of drums you can add!!! (so don’t get greedy & buy more) Now i know it’s my fault for being impulsive but it’s 2017 FFS!! How the hell did you miss this problem, when you show it to the world in september 2016 (along with regurgitated analog copies) & quiet literally Nobody in your promotional team asked a question about this! I’m not bitterly disappointed but hopefully in 2017 roland will update this problem as well as the brushes (No brush support currently. Brush switch and parameters are available, but not working) & please if your 3rd digital input is for a future hi-hat, please look out for us who pay for your products because that would be another 2 inputs lost.
The price is frankly ridiculous. The looks of the kit are good but definitely don't justify anything like this price point. I once owned a Roland TD3 (Roland's then entry level kit), I remember thinking that when the next models come out the look would be better, the price would come down (as is common with technology products) and connectivity would be wireless, that was 12 years ago. We are still a long way from all those things happening at the entry level.
Andrew hudson I agree. I thought Roland would trickle down products when new ones came out but it didn't happen. They also continue to raise prices on products that haven't changed in years. I remember when their early mesh pads was under $100 USD but now the 6.5" pad on the TD-11 is over $100 last I looked. The bass drum on the TD-30 was over $800. The technology hasn't changed except for the new digital USB pads but other pads still use piezo pickups like the 90's models so there is no reason to charge so much.
Whatchoutalkinbout? Everyone knows that wireless = best, bluetooth = killer awesome, and more gigahertzes and meggerpixels means quality! It also needs to be controllable by smart speakers, dude. Get with the 21st century!
you don't need additional parts to move the 1st floor tom to tom2 position. Simply swap the ride cymbal boom arm with the tom mount. Additionally, you can add 5 more triggers anywhere you like with either the MDH25 tom mount or MDY25 cymbal mount.
C/O (CORRESPONDENT) *(UNESCO)* (UNITED NATION ORGANIZATIONS) (UNO): _Musik Ansambel_ • Memainkan alat musik melodis (Dm) dan ritme umum (C) atau (Slow Beat): _menyamakan tinggi nada senar 3 dengan senar 2 tanpa ditekan (nada B), yaitu dengan menekan senar 3 pada posisi kolom 4._ _menyamakan tinggi nada senar 4 dengan senar 3 tanpa ditekan (nada G), yaitu dengan menekan senar 4 pada posisi kolom 5._ Tingkatan akor dan isi nada-nadanya dalam tangga nada Dm sebagai berikut. # Submedian nadanya (c, e, gis) # Subdominan nadanya (d, f, a) # Dominan nadanya (e, gis, b) # Median nadanya (f, a, c) Perpindahan akor biasa terjadi pada nada (Am) yang mendapatkan subdominan (Andante): (Senardrum) Senar nomor 5 (los senar) menghasilkan nada A. (Senardrum) Senar nomor 4 (los senar) menghasilkan nada D. (Senardrum) Senar nomor 3 (los senar) menghasilkan nada G. (Senardrum) Senar nomor 1 (los senar) menghasilkan nada E. (Sub-Editor) mengenal progresi/perjalanan akor dan simbol akor, serta berkreasi dengan (tutorial) atau (conservatism). _Akor dalam Kedudukan (Posisi) Dasar_ • Memainkan atau mendengar akor tonika, subdominan, dengan septim pada alat musik harmoni serta memahami fungsi (Tenordrum) masing-masing akor dasar.
