Roland TR-09 Power User Tips from Nu-Trix the synth guy 

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Thanks man.

Happy to help!

new firware 1.4 or 1.6

Oh Btw, I Use Abelton Live 11

If I remember well, you would need to select usb output in the TR-09 and bring the analog output to zero. Then in Ableton live activate « monitor in » on the tracks you want to hear.

@@Nu-trix Hey Thx- One Other Question: Is it not possible to hear the master out of Abellton Live? As well how can record what is coming out of the TR-09? My apologies for all the questions but I stumbled across your channel and I pulled out my TR-90 because I did not know I could run it directly into Abelton…. I also have the Boutique TB-03…. Aciiiid!!!!

@odumwalimu just have audio track in record ready with the tr-09 as a audio in and you should be able to record it.

To change the pitch of the sound it has to happen inside the sound Generator of the device. You can try to change the pitch with the pitch bend, but often the percussion sounds are not responding to pitch end by default. You have to check what MIDI message can be received by the sound generator. Then, most sequencer should be able to send a MIDI message to the generator.

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy thanks man appreciate the response

Check in the MIDI Implementation sheet of the TR-08. If the device can receive a MIDI message for the task you are looking for it will be listed there.

I don't have access to a TR-09 right now but I think I remember that it's possible to assign a sound to analog output L, one to analog output R and a stereo USB to the MX-1. You would get 4 inputs (2 analogs and 2 USB) in the MX-1. I will try to test it this week. Thanks for watching!

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy thanks. I'd be interested to know what happens with a TR8 going into a MX-1 also. Can individual outs still be seen in a DAW?

When the TR-8 is connected to the MX-1 using USB, you get the Master Mix out. If you want more, sounds can be assigned to output A andB . Then you just need to connect the analog A and B outputs to analog tracks in the mixer. The max on the MX-1 will be 2 monos tracks and 1 stereo USB track. Now if you connect the MX-1 to your computer via USB, the computer will show the MX-1's 18 USB tracks (not the TR-8's 14 USB ouputs)

Hi, DIN Sync is a protocol invented before MIDI. So even if it is the same DIN connector it is not compatible. The TR-09 does not have DIN sync. It has analogue trigger sync to become master for a TB-03 or another synth with a sequencer and an analogue trigger sync in. You will need a sync converter. Many exist. Roland is selling the sbx-1 for this job. www.roland.com/global/products/sbx-1/

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy Hi! Thanks so much for the quick response. Looking at its price (Roland SBX 1) I was thinking of getting the BeststepPro by Arturia which is supposed to have this feature and (also as the SBX1) should be able to add Swing to the TR-808. Do you have any experience with the BSP???? Thanks!!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Hi Chris, are you syncing the Tr-09 while it is also connected via USB to Ableton Live and used a an audio and MIDI interface or you are syncing it while the sound is analogue and the MIDI is using a MIDI connector?

I'm not really using much midi at all. I'm just using the 4 usb outputs and using the sequencer on the TR-09 in sync mode so it reads the bpm of my session. Trying to transfer the beat I made on my Tr-09 into my session in time with the rest of the track.

Tune is the only "pitch" control that I know of in the TR-09.

@@Nu-trix tnx... I understand it is a curious request :) also tr 909 has same behavior

I had the same question. The “tune” does not change the fundamental frequency of the kick, only the pitch envelope (it seems to me)

I don’t have access to the TR-09 but I think you are right. There is no real pitch control for the kick. It is a shame. Onless it’s available via MIDI?

Just checked, no extra control via MIDI.

DoctorBlankenstein, no, the sounds are the result of the actual panel values.

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy What I meant was can the drums be panned globally? Or do I need to pan the kick separate for every pattern I write?

The panning will be applied separately for each panned sounds. There is no memory for the sounds parameters. Meaning the active value are the only values. But almost all the instruments parameters can be controlled via MIDI. So using a sequencer you can recall the setting whenever you want in a song. check out he MIDI implementation chart for the TR-08 here : static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/TR-08_MIDI_Imple_Chart_eng01_W.pdf or here : www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/tr-08/owners_manuals/2be349fb-d601-4526-bd80-5b8c67fc0001/

Maybe the TR-8? The sounds of Tr-808, tr-909, TR-606, TR-707, TR-727 and is made for hands on manipulation.

Is there any way to play these advanced machines without paying 100$ for each (707, 606, 727)?

No , you would need to find a used one with the optional update.

Paul Jay, can you just turn off real-time MIDI INPUT on the the selected tracks ?

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy: Hey thanks for coming back to me. I’ve tried looking for something like this but there is no input monitoring on midi tracks. Is it in the settings maybe?

I don't have Logic, I can't test it. Sorry :-(

You should have some way to stop receiving the MIDI input. In software DAW usually the MIDI channel in is filtered out so the controller doesn't need to be switched between channels when playing another track. Is done in the DAW. Find where you can stop MIDI from being send to the tracks you don't it to go.

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy: ok thanks for your help. I’ll take a look again tonight. Thanks man.

I did a video about the differences of the tr-8, tr-08, tr-09 for Musitechnic ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aPXD-PfRsSY.html

I'll check it out in the next days. I'll try to make a video about it. Thanks for watching!

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy Oh that would b so awesome! I would be greatful because I been tryin for a week to get it to work. Seems like I'm not the only one who is havin issues w it. Thanks so much for considering to help!!

Hi PingTrip77, I finished this video today about how to use the TR-09 with Ableton Live. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gSbQTcwVMrM.html

Nu-Trix The Synth Guy Yes I saw it and it worked!!! Thanks so much!

I have the clap going out in USB 4 if the light is not flashing!