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Recently, Perezcope launched another article, this one at a brand that has been getting some great press as of late, Blancpain. They've been the golden child for a few weeks now since Swatch x Blancpain. In the article Perezcope talks about the fact that Rolex may have actually released the worlds first dive watch (previously it was largely accepted that this honor was Blancpain's). This would be MASSIVE to a very small amount of people and more importantly, would be an incredible sore for Blancpain PR. SO, today Mikey boy dives in.
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@ChrisKellyPrime 9 месяцев назад

I can't believe he's mutilating a name like Jacques Cousteau. It's not pronounced "Jack-ez Costa", it's "Jock Coostow".

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

u must be new to the channel

@michaelrparker5004 9 месяцев назад

@@TheoandHarris Most people don't know this, but he went by "Jackie Coosie" to his friends.

@brookswashere 9 месяцев назад

Perhaps your frequent mispronunciations shouldn't be seen as a calling card. For a couple of dudes who try to push the idea that they work with brands and are great with marketing, it's a bad look when you can't even get brand names and famous historical figures right @@TheoandHarris

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

guys the only names i can pronounce correctly is mine and kinda Christian’s

@alexmarin2929 9 месяцев назад

I like how Michael is making the excuse that he can’t pronounce names and that’s why he is butchering the famous Frenchman’s name. Respectfully, this is clearly just him being ignorant and or uncultured. He should know this name.

@SaddleSC 9 месяцев назад

"To penetrate to astonishing depths..." When Michael paused briefly to say "me too" I literally had coffee come out of my nose...perfect comedic timing!

@AbeKWest 9 месяцев назад

To me it's all marketing speak. The Submariner isn't even the first watch that looked like a Submariner, that was the Turn-O-Graph 6202. So you don't even need to say that FF came out after the Submariner, since the Turn-O-Graph was around before then (and maybe there were a bunch of other watches that looked like it too but weren't called "dive watches"). Why do we even put any significance on the watches that came out in 1953? They weren't the first with water resistance, they weren't the first with rotating bezels, and they don't match today's dive watch standards. It's literally just that they called themselves dive watches, which is just marketing.

@nedflanders3769 9 месяцев назад

I think you nailed the analysis, Michael. I also think Perezscope has an axe to grind, and was rather selective in his inclusion of facts about Blancpain.

@XxJuiceManxX198 9 месяцев назад

Just like the Explorer never made it to the top of Everest. Marketing 🤷🏻‍♂️

@lamarfandango1623 9 месяцев назад

The problem with Blancpain is that it's white bread.

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

this is the title of our next video

@PocketUau 9 месяцев назад

@@TheoandHarris: "bet"

@finesse49 9 месяцев назад

For its price it must be artisanal white bread.🙂

@kart182 9 месяцев назад

Do you mean they’re basic?

@AcmeRocket 9 месяцев назад

🤦🙄smh

@daniel_anthony_k 9 месяцев назад

This was really good Michael. I read the original article without looking at the comments and assumed Jose Perez was right. As you showed, the situation is murkier than he described it to be.

@therealrobinc 9 месяцев назад

That Perez is a crook who got his start in the watch world by cobbling together & selling fake Panerai during its heyday & early boom. How else is he so adept at spotting fakes & frakens? It takes a crook to spot the work of other crooks. Go google his murky & sordid past.

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

Yes, I am very upset at how wrinkly my shirt is. Looked okay in the mirror. Hate when that happens.

@michaelgrist72 9 месяцев назад

😢

@Dr_Demographics_IE 9 месяцев назад

I didn't notice it until I read this comment and now it's all I can see

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

@@Dr_Demographics_IEit’s a double edged sword on the internet - call it out before someone does and make people notice OR get called a stupid idiot that doesn’t know what an iron is by 98 people

@stonefist 9 месяцев назад

nice to see Theo on the spotlight this episode!!!

@ChrisKellyPrime 9 месяцев назад

Lol that's not his name

@boy_scout_cookie1913 9 месяцев назад

@@ChrisKellyPrime This is what they call a joke in the show biz baby

@leemurovec24 9 месяцев назад

Thought that was Harris?

@dirgeofthedawn 9 месяцев назад

@@leemurovec24didn’t you hear? Harris is off diving in Italy while Theo waxes poetic about the use of nickel on watch hands post-1952

@daniellandin7956 9 месяцев назад

And high as ballz

@ryana9783 9 месяцев назад

All this arguing is tearing us apart. Can’t we focus on something that is irrefutable? Like the fact that Tudor was the first company born to dare?

@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 9 месяцев назад

Incorrect. Invicta was the first watch born to dare. It's in the horological society's annual journal published in 19 dickety 2. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! Invicta pro diver came out in the 1920's and is in fact the first sub.

@mgolabek89 9 месяцев назад

Hahahaha😂. Tudor was born to dare, but still remains in live to bore phase.

@ryana9783 9 месяцев назад

@@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 oh shoot you are totally right. I meant to put Tudor was the first “man made” company born to dare. Everyone knows Invicta was created by celestial beings with far superior daringness.

@adamfenyves3972 9 месяцев назад

What smells to me in this story - had Rolex really made the first dive watch (commercially available), and had any evidence of it, how on earth have they never at least claimed it through their marketing, or followed up by legal actions against BP?

@NKNFAIR 9 месяцев назад

Yeah it seems like Rolex, “the marketing king” would want to capitalize on the fact the were the first modern dive watch if it were true. 😊

@miabeatz80 9 месяцев назад

For him to attack the semantics of the word "introduced" is ridiculous. He should then attack Rolex with the same level of vigor when they say the DeepSea Challenge is (capable) of the deepest dive vs in Omega case with the Ultradeep (achieved) and holds the record for deepest dive with a watch.

@miabeatz80 9 месяцев назад

@@NKNFAIRagreed Rolex are never coy about implying they are the first or the best at something lol.

@goldencalf5144 9 месяцев назад

Actually Swatch group is the king of dodgy marketing. Just look at the way they push Omega as the Bond watch in a futile attempt to airbrush Rolex out of the picture

@miabeatz80 9 месяцев назад

@@goldencalf5144 Any company can pay for that partnership with the bond movies. It's silly to think it's to attempt to replace Rolex. To me it's smart marketing. No different than Rolex paying for the Daytona 500 race advertising or Wimbledon tennis tournaments.

@dipandvelcro 9 месяцев назад

This was excellent! Thank you for putting the time in.

@finesse49 9 месяцев назад

I don't know when Rolex's unidirectional bezel apeared but my 1969 model 5513 has a friction bidirectional bezel. I've had this thing from new and yes it was used for diving.

@cos-9113 9 месяцев назад

The SeaDweller first had the unidirectional bezel when it went off patent and Rolex could use it, I think the first Submariner to have it was around 1990. Rolex’s first unidirectional on the Sea Dweller (early 4000 ft one, mid 80s) wasn’t very good, and mine became a two way moving bezel after about 5 dives, but the friction was sufficient to keep it in place. Finally had it fixed in 2002. The one way bezel never seemed that important; indeed used a GMT before I got the SeaDweller.

@IoanMihali 9 месяцев назад

Let's compare this with the launch of the iPhone... The first iPhone was announced by Steve Jobs on January 9, 2007. After the announcement, the iPhone was available for sale later that year on June 29, 2007. So, there was a gap of about six months between the announcement and the actual availability for purchase. Make your own conclusion.

@howardroark7726 9 месяцев назад

Good analysis. This quibbling over the definition of "launch" suggests he doesn't have a watertight case. I would just add that patent applications are not inexpensive, especially if Blancpain was a relatively small underdog watchmaking house. For a juggernaut, spending a fortune filing scores of frivolous patents is much less of a financial burden. Just think of Apple and Samsung. I think you are right that it's no coincidence these 3 models were produced around the same time. (While I don't accept his definition of launch, I'm avoiding it here so as to avoid misunderstanding.) When a military unit or any organisation acquires equipment, it's not uncommon to approach several providers with the same specifications. Not sure if things were done that way back in those halcyon days but it could have been. Nowadays, everyone is paranoid, requiring non-disclosure agreements, tenders, RFPs and the like but back then things were probably done with a handshake and the suppliers giving their word not to blab.

@ksolan13 9 месяцев назад

Not the first time Rolex has been owned. Sub playing second fiddle to Fifty Fathoms, Daytona "Cosmograph" getting snubbed by NASA for the Speedy, Explorer not being created for/or actually worn on Everest trek, etc. Rolex fanboys should accept that in the modern age... the Rolex brand leans more on hype than actual horological pedigree.

@ams914 9 месяцев назад

Omega made the first watch that could be submerged in water. It didn't have a 60 minute bezel so that's why you can't call it a dive watch, I guess, but it was "waterproof" rectangular shaped, and developed in the late 30s, I think it was.

@zacharymalik 9 месяцев назад

The Omega Marine

@rassf1 9 месяцев назад

Your description of the Horological Society of NY meetings is so funny/spot on! I almost fell off my chair from laughing. 🤣Which is why love their lectures btw...

@BRAAAPlab 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for your efforts to ensure timely wristwatch checks! It's a distracting peeve when RU-vidrs forget job #1! 🙏

@Jofuish 9 месяцев назад

When did the zodiac sea wolf come out? Wasn't that also 1953?

@seanthomxx2694 9 месяцев назад

Thank you. I'm not a Zodiac fan boy, but it irks me that Zodiac's history gets sweeped under the rug

@perezcope 9 месяцев назад

The Sea Wolf was presented at the Basel Watch Fair in 1958.

@seanthomxx2694 9 месяцев назад

@@perezcope you're saying their story is a lie, too?

@davidemarsu7098 9 месяцев назад

5 years later in Basel

@videogamesare1 9 месяцев назад

We appreciate you penetrating this story to astonishing depths.

@henrylee8510 9 месяцев назад

Would appreciate if he pronounced Cousteau's name correctly. How can a video about dive watch origins butcher the name of a legendary diver.

@spg770 9 месяцев назад

Hi Mike, it could also be that Aqualung knew of Blancpain through JJ Fiechter (Who ran Blancpain with his aunt), because he was an avid diver and may have purchased diving gear from them before.

@jono493 9 месяцев назад

The "Me too" comment was one of the best interludes to a video I have seen (I'm obviously too immature)

@lcpclub 9 месяцев назад

Very In depth and well researched, Michael!

@DavisAB4 9 месяцев назад

I LOVE these kinds of videos I truly learn so much. Thank you for sharing always amazing educational entertaining content❤

@treykasia127 9 месяцев назад

Battles are dramatic. Drama demands attention. Attention is good marketing...

@Madmanmarque 9 месяцев назад

Very interesting! I've always been told that The Fifty Fathoms was first and that Rolex jumped on the bandwagon and put the label of Submariner on their Turn-O-Graph.

@pardus8panthera5 9 месяцев назад

What an entertaining & informative video. Thanks Michael.

@perezcope 9 месяцев назад

Aqua Lung co-branded watches came much later, around 1957/58. The reason Spirotechnique, now Aqua Lung, put the French Navy in touch with Jean-Jacques Fiechter is because they knew him from scuba diving in the South of France and that he was the director of a watch company. Btw, in the meantime we have found evidence that the first Rolex Submariner prototype was created in 1951.

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

My bad on that Aqualung/Spirotechnique mix up! Saw that evidence on your story, crazy stuff

@ianbrock9430 9 месяцев назад

Top Marks young man. What an entertaining, well researched and well delivered piece.

@henrylee8510 9 месяцев назад

I wish a detailed and lengthy dive watch video would pronounce Jacques correctly. Omg

@renngretsch 9 месяцев назад

Hearing a young person trying to say Cousteau makes me feel so old.

@CrookDanny 9 месяцев назад

I became aware of being old as a result of this as well 😂

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

My dad said the same thing!

@ams914 9 месяцев назад

It's kind of stupid how we're quibbling over one year. They were probably all doing corporate espionage on one another anyway. Stealing designs, etc. I bet many watches were developed at the same time.

@user-wi9nn6dz8w 9 месяцев назад

31:49 on the German version of Blancpain‘s website they state that the Fifty Fathoms was „introduced in the market in 1953“ . That is consistent with how Perezcope defined „launch“.

@Thomas-vq5pb 9 месяцев назад

Interesting, I think we don’t we realize the context of the watch industry and how confidential the dive watch markets were. Moreover, nothing contradicts that the watch didn’t exist in 1953 (would be great however to see one)… my understanding was Aqualung and Spirotechnique were companies created by Jacques Cousteau to distribute diving products in Europe and the US. Aqualung was a dive equipment distributor not a watch maker.

@TheoandHarris 9 месяцев назад

Ah -- I may have messed up the Spirotechnique/Aqualung understanding, apologies!

@hunterphan5506 9 месяцев назад

I like a lot of Perezcope’s articles. On this subject, though, I’d put my money on Jeffrey Kingston.

@jwags24 9 месяцев назад

So much drama coming from that article. Lol. Thanks for breaking this down! I agree with your takes.

@booze33 9 месяцев назад

Hello Theo, may i ask whats the brand and model of your watch?? i liked it so much!!!

@shuycg 9 месяцев назад

Great video. Good job on all fronts. About the subject, I don't care, really, what was first and in what way, but drama is fun!

@heiner71 9 месяцев назад

A product launch does not necessarily mean it is available at that time. Our company launches products that only show up a year later. It just means this is when the marketing starts and early samples are shown at trade shows etc. Sometimes also orders are taken shortly after.

@Griffin1994 9 месяцев назад

Wonderful summary at the end of

@stephengarratt8027 9 месяцев назад

Blancpain/ Swatch have made headlines so it should help sell that piece of plastic for £400 . I'm glad you mentioned Zodiac sea wolf, for just over a thousand pounds your getting a great watch with heritage. Enjoyed the video, thank you

@DavidEAngell 9 месяцев назад

That was awesome! nice work👌

@MrFreddyd3 9 месяцев назад

great video! What Blancpain should do is release primary sources that can “prove” the Fifty Fathoms status as the “first.” Anything besides trademarks and patents: Photographs, testing documentation, mechanical drawings/drafts, journals, artifacts/prototypes (a watch!).... Otherwise it’s all conjecture.

@Kciroy 9 месяцев назад

Seems like Perezscope does have his own little agenda on his page with specific brands he hate. No doubtr he'll expose anyone, but he puts in extra effort for brands he doesn't like for his personal opinion

@AndreaDoesYoga 9 месяцев назад

🕰️Interesting comparison, love both brands! 🤔

@Chronocam1 9 месяцев назад

Wow swatch x blancpain must be working really well. Its got the people talking.

@alanhiggins9014 26 дней назад

Very informative - thank you 👍

@JoeyJiggles 7 месяцев назад

This was awesome!!

@petrnovak8143 9 месяцев назад

It's amazing how many watch history detectives can appear on various social media channels. To be honest, who cares which watch was the first? These kind of articles and videos are the perfect marketing for all the brands. It gives the products such a visibility, that for the sales it doesn't matter, what's the outcome of the story. Blancpain lately gets so much press, that the awareness of the brand must skyrocket. If you were deciding between Rolex Submariner, Blancpain Fifty Fathoms and Zodiac Seewolf, would you really decide just because it was the "first modern dive watch"?

@caleb256 9 месяцев назад

Great video Michael🔥🔥🔥

@Sasquatchi 9 месяцев назад

Well, hold on, if Blancpain "launched" the fifty fathoms from the moment it was produced and not sold, the same would be true for the sub - which presumably would have been made and tested prior it's LAUNCH in 1953.

@Touyoujin 9 месяцев назад

Blancpain Fathom is just a frenkenstein watch from whatever technologies and inventions available in the market in the 50's and marketed itself as a dive watch to the mass. Rolex introduced the exact same design of submariner as Turn-O-graph in the 50's way before the release of Blanapain fathom and it was reintroduced as Rolex submariner in the later years.

@ALL-il1sw 2 месяца назад

I actually read Perezcope's article, straight away it smelled of a marketing stunt by Rolex to shift the narrative in their favor. And for a time it worked, there were fanboys and sales staff lapping it up.

@mell3109 9 месяцев назад

I’m surprised this is even grey, I would have thought that there are still people alive that can state facts about this. Rolex have always been sneaky with their marketing. It could be around the first commercial available. But what about non commercially available.

@koolpep 9 месяцев назад

Fiechter and the French Navy war hero are on record claiming it happened in 1953 - and they are first hand witnesses. But he has chosen not to believe them.

@jockdodson9093 9 месяцев назад

Don't understand this talk about competition. Rolex has 29% of the Swiss watch market. Rolex competes with Rolex. Blancpain makes great watches but, there is no competition. I really do enjoy you content. Would love to know more about your watch collections and your thoughts on why you love those watches. Cheers,

@raymondho4821 9 месяцев назад

Rolex could've sued Blancpain ages ago (maybe they had or tried to) if it was the Sub that debuted earlier than the Fifty Fathoms and used it as their marketing. As we all know, Rolex wouldn't miss any marketing chances.

@kresimirpleic 9 месяцев назад

The Fifty Fathoms is no competition for the Submariner. They are orders of magnitude apart in sales and popularity. No need to sue.

@cuestion-de-tiempo 4 месяца назад

@@kresimirpleic For a marketing campaign, Rolex will sue anyone.

@matthewstrobelt564 9 месяцев назад

Nice vid big Mike

@sevenrivers 9 месяцев назад

Good video, great points all around.

@BumblebumBear 9 месяцев назад

Blancpain watches were originally sold in dive shops not watch shops. So they were not in the mainstream watch market in 1953 but I believe it did exist before the Rolex Submariner.

@gavinwhite9743 9 месяцев назад

Great video, highlights that even evidence is subject to interpretation.

@zacharymalik 9 месяцев назад

I get the arguments but as far as I know Omega has long publicised that their 1932 Omega Marine was the first commercially available 'dive' watch. I'd also like to chime in on the butchering of the pronunciations of the late Commander Jacques Cousteau, for many of us he was quite the legend and looking up and finding out how to correctly pronounce his name would have been the proper thing to do.

@platinum_knowledge 9 месяцев назад

Did zero research beyond reading the article and some comment sections, butchered names that he could have googled, and it was still better than anything with Christian in it.

@eazye619 9 месяцев назад

The problem i have with all of this? I just don’t care lol can’t afford either one and who knows if i ever will nor does it really even matter

@DavisAB4 9 месяцев назад

Man lotta slithering lil snakes out there🐍🐍🐍🐍TY 4 sharing and this video very helpful💛😎

@gfxdaddy 9 месяцев назад

Dials with triangles, rectangles, etc, Rolex beat BP to the punch, using them in the Zerographe in 1937, and then in the Panerai that Rolex designed and built in the ‘40s, and then the Turnographe. The Turnographe was also already capable of 100m WR, before the FF’s 90something-meter WR, and the Zerographe featured a rotating bezel more than a decade before the FF…that being said, it was neither a locking bezel nor a dive bezel. I agree with the general sentiment in that unless BP corroborates specifics this debate will never end…but it honestly matters little at this point - Rolex produces the most bullet-proof and capable watches of the two in my opinion.

@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 9 месяцев назад

Invicta pro diver came out in the 1920's and is in fact the first sub. It's in the horological society's annual journal published in 19 dickety 2. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

@koolpep 9 месяцев назад

Great work.👍🏻

@MaartenAnna 9 месяцев назад

Question: isn't there an original "aqualung" floating around somewhere, with a date or serial number? Surely some old French chap has one lying around in a cupboard somewhere?

@adamfenyves3972 9 месяцев назад

I was attending a discussion with some people from Blancpain, and according to their storyteliing as these watches were toolwatches, most of them were simply disposed once newer/better spec'd watches were made available. Back the days nobody looked at them as some tools that could gain value over time, it was quite the opposite. But yeah, at least one should/could exist somewhere, I agree.

@zyembla 9 месяцев назад

Andrew Morgan has a very clear video about it

@koolpep 9 месяцев назад

I can't find it, where is it?

@laundry_room_sets 9 месяцев назад

Smart move on his part defaming a lawyer and Mr Hayek offering 0 evidence. We need more content creators like that.

@AcmeRocket 9 месяцев назад

Its 45mm so does it matter?

@Peltwerk 9 месяцев назад

If they were contacting the oldest watch company, wouldn't they have been contacting Vacheron Constantin?

@ionutbanea2961 9 месяцев назад

who ironed your t-shirt ?

@michaelcozens7537 9 месяцев назад

Loving the French. You’re like Inspector Clouseau in reverse 😂😂😂

@cosmodoc 9 месяцев назад

I though that the Zodiac Sea Wolf came out earlier than either of them!

@davitaia75 9 месяцев назад

You are fun to watch.

@lasantame 8 месяцев назад

Great video.

@TuEIite 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the santa spoiler alert, I clicked off, sorry about your retention stats.

@realricciardo85 9 месяцев назад

Perezcope rocks!!! 👏 I mean, he really rocks the watch world!!!

@therealrobinc 9 месяцев назад

@Peter-tc3ep 9 месяцев назад

Blancpain definitely was the first shown dive watch in the public eye at the 1953 Basel watch fair, Rolex was not until the following year. Whomever beat who to market first is possibly up for discussion here. Rolex also didn’t introduce a unidirectional bezel until the 1970’s, Fifty Fathom original watch was unidirectional. The Fifty Fathoms was not sold in jewelry stores for a while, was sold through dive shops, surf shops and military use. Love Rolex but this guy is too hard core Rolex trying to rewrite history. Three companies were in the race for the first dive watch, they all were shown first within a few months of each other. As someone who dives, a unidirectional bezel is very important as well as good lumen. I do not own a Fifty Fathoms since it’s too big for my wrist at 45mm and do own two subs but I don’t think rewriting history since one watch is much more popular then another. I think that’s why Rolex does not make the claim.

@sdiver68 9 месяцев назад

Proof?

@cosmodoc 9 месяцев назад

The Zodiac was shown at the same show

@Amplitudeproblem 9 месяцев назад

Great analysis - thank you! Perezcope's obvious bias in definitions, word choice and tone in that article already made it impossible to take his arguments seriously. The article discredits itself with its overt hostility and aggression toward certain actors over a topic as ultimately unimportant as this. Interesting saga nonetheless.

@2536528 9 месяцев назад

Michael is young. I was shocked as well as he used to be a household name, but then said to myself, Michael is young.

@juniorjohnson5961 9 месяцев назад

1953 my birth year I'm a huge fan of Blancpain especially Fifty Fathoms. I didn't care for Perezscope article .

@starkid20 9 месяцев назад

Someone get Theo a new shirt. Please!

@Official_MikeyT 28 дней назад

I know this is an old video but it seems like Perezscope needs to learn that it is considered a logical fallacy when one uses a lack of evidence to support point A, as evidence to support point B.

@hangtimedangjang 9 месяцев назад

Jackezz Co-stoo! 😅

@johnswick7108 9 месяцев назад

Little late to the party. But I’ll still listen. Lol

@princemarko 9 месяцев назад

Blancpains founder owns the patents for the modern dive watch. Perezcope is just peddling pro Rolex narrative for personal financial reasons. This isn’t even debatable. Patent was filed and awarded to him and if you know ANYTHING of French corporate espionage history, it’s pretty easy guess that they got their hands on the design.

@-Jason-L 9 месяцев назад

Patents were discussed. People claim they filed AFTER they went into production . People seem to just want to believe they claimed patent pending before they ever actually filed, which there is no evidence that anyone ever did this. All BP has is corporate stories, with zero to actually back them. No documentation, no pictures, no watches discovered.

@therealrobinc 9 месяцев назад

@princemarko Месяц назад

Rolex is elite liars of corporate stories… their entire Explorer history is made up. Aqua lung contracted BP for French navy.. that’s well known way before Rolex copied it

@colingill47 9 месяцев назад

The Turnograph 6202 wins then

@EdwardViaTomato 14 дней назад

His whole argument is about marketing efforts, which Rolex has always had the advantage of. As if a tree doesn't fall in the forest if they don't hear the sound.

@MrClubgibson 8 месяцев назад

Well… they could show military invoices for them and the whole thing would be solved. Those are definitely something they would have if true

@evilmad 9 месяцев назад

The whole concept is about the difference between knowing and believing. It is super hard to prove that there is no Santa… there is no prove that he exists, but that doesn’t prove his nonexistence… So based on facts it seems like the sub outdates the fathom… That is what he is referring to. He hasn’t proven that there has been no prototype or small batch version of the fifty fathoms but there is also no real evidence of the opposite. So the scientific approach would favor the submariner

@mattmcd881 9 месяцев назад

JP's takedown of Blancpain is, uh... NOT his best work. IMO it wouldn't pass muster in a freshman formal logic/critical thinking course at a decent university. It doesn't help that he is so very clearly NOT a dispassionate observer, either. Michael hits on an important item here: civilian diving was in its infancy in that era, and there was likely no particular reason to think that it would become a huge market driver- and therefor, it _does_ stand to reason that a smaller maison like Blancpain might not have invested a great deal of effort in either racing to market or in preserving detailed records of its developments of the early dive watches done for the MN and Aqua Lung. JP goes to great lengths to hang his hat on the notion that the entire world *must agree* that the goal post needs to be set at the date of commercial launch to the wider civilian market. Why? It seems likely that his proof -and his broader point- start going pear-shaped if any other datum is used. Excellent analysis, Michael.

@bluebuffalo100 9 месяцев назад

Here's a documentary about German "Meereskämpfer" from 1944 ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W3CRZeZycKU.htmlsi=9e2kYDa3j_z-jQVg ) At 10:38 their gear is presented. On the left hand they are wearing a dive watch! It's obviously neither a BlancPain, nor a Rolex....

@Stzymediaagency 9 месяцев назад

Black bay 54 !

@brianjohnson3743 9 месяцев назад

A semantic argument generally means you don’t have anything better to support your stance.

@I-Libertine 9 месяцев назад

Ok, I give up. Who won?

@PapriceP 9 месяцев назад

Where's Theo?

@Arc1517 9 месяцев назад

Jock-ez Cost-ew. Too good.

@adamethancrow 9 месяцев назад

Christian should go away more often. - love the crazy professor vibe. Rolex had to apologise to Smiths about lying about the Everest accent. 😮 Rolex are great watches, but they are a marketing company first. Watchmaker second. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉