@@tomkhong9828 Buying a steel professional Rolex makes price irrelevant. You won't lose money regardless. The no-date version is true to history. Thats why it beats the date version for me.
Recently sold my SubC date for a profit and bought a new SubC (no date) at list price (I was on a waitlist for 3 - 4 months for the no date). Was a nice trade for a better looking watch! Love the no date sub!
I’ve owned both. No date first then the date. I much prefer the date. The bezel sits more centered to the case and doesn’t lean so much to the left. Also the date window adds an element of sparkle and domed warping I just love.
Interesting fact about the date Submariner is that if you put it underwater , let’s say when your giving it a rinse in the sink , you’ll notice something really cool , the Sub date dial becomes a sort of Deep Sea , and by that I mean that the reflection of the water on the cyclops crystal de-magnifies the date back to its original size hence the watch can be read just like a no-date Submariner including the minute hands hands , which is perfect for people interested in the date sub without worrying if you take it to scuba diving ( I know a few friends of mine that actually use the Sub date for diving purposes as well ) that won’t be legible while going into decompression underwater. So for all of you watch enthusiast like myself , fear not of the Submariner Date , it’s got all you need😉 Try it yourself folks if you doubt this post
Totally agree with your choice. I’m waiting for a Sub (no date), it’s the symmetry that does it for me, plus, who really needs a watch to tell you the date?
I mean who needs a watch at all? I'm rarely more than a few feet from a phone, tablet or computer. In public places, public transport or cars, plenty of clocks. I've had a date on my watch for at least 25 years, and every time I sign paperwork (which is most work days), I glance at my wrist to double check the date, so I date paperwork properly. So if I chose a no-date watch now, it would be kind of annoying to break that habit. And I have no real issue with a cyclops.
Thanks for a nuance and well articulated comparison. I too started with date sub but the no date always seem to look "just right" to me. After a few years of wearing the 114060 I'm happy I made the switch, and if I have to do it all over again I would pick no-date every time.
I went with the 114060. It is my 5th Rolex. I have two GMT’s and a DateJust. I felt like I didn’t need another watch with a date function. If I had only two watches, I would of got the date version. I also prefer the clean, symmetrical look of the dial on the 114060.
I bought the no date version but I would always catch myself looking down at my watch to check the date. so I sold the no date and bought a Hulk. but the no date is a better looking watch in my opinion. however I NEEEEEEEED that date option!
Great video Dylan ! I think of the no-date as a timeless classic. For the same reason, I also prefer the Explorer over the Explorer 2. All of the versions are wonderful time pieces though.
This is an exceptional video that all Submariner aficionados can appreciate. The only thing not highlighted was the different movement calibre for the date feature complication which is apparent to those who have a 116610 or 114060.
I have a no date Sub, but I do like the look of the cyclops. It is a neat Rolex feature that makes it stand apart from other watches. Would be happy with either model. 👍
Excellent review. I like a retailer's perspective on these products such as who prefers the date versus no-date. More of the retailer perspective in future reviews would be interesting.
Personally, if you already a Rolex with a date on it, try out the no date. The no date gives off a completely different vide. It's truly stunning and this is coming from people who own a some with the date.
Love these models. But the explorer 214270 mark2 is the best there is☺️have mine about a year now, still in love. Still look at it everyday, very proud owner and worth the money. Nobody cares but i just wanted to mention it
Define 'best.' It's basically the same watch in two different styles, which comes down to personal preference. I think the Submariner has more rugged charm and a glidelock clasp. So Submariner for the win, the date version being my preference.
I think that for people who want to know the date, they should get the date one. And for those who just want the time to get the no date one. But that is just my opinion, I do not wish to trigger anyone.
I owned the 114060 for a while and found out that something is missing without the date and the cyclops. So I got the 116610LN. Couldn’t be any happier!
Yes, there’s 31 numbers, you can manually turn the digits. Because this watch doesn’t take a battery, when your not wearing it it stops after about 48 hrs, so say you don’t wear it for a week or its feb 28, your just manually set it.
@@thelastknight6745 So basically pretty much every other month you have to change the date as it gets it wrong? It's a question I should know as I do own wind up watches. Just never knew if some recognize 31 day months or you could get them in sync some how. .. thanks. Still waiting for my friend who has contacts to get me top of the list.
Thank you very much for a great review and the comparison. I would say it is subjective which one is better and it is a matter of preference. I had the Submariner No Date (ref. 114060) and I now own the Submariner Date (ref. 116610) which I use as my daily. It is all matter of preference and there is no right or wrong.
I have a ceramic Dated sub and love it. I also have a Datejust 41. Both watches have the cyclops. I think it adds a certain flare to the watch and makes them instantly recognisable as a Rolex
Samesies! DJ41 and sub date. I’ve tried having watches with no date and they aren’t functional enough for my tastes. But I also love the cyclops so I guess we’re the odd ones in this thread
Definitely the No date as it’s pure to the roots and looks cleaner. If date (if it’s a must) then I will go for the Sub Hulk. I had the date and agreed with you, it gets nasty dirty around the cyclops and it just break the symmetry of the watch
Splendid review, by the way. After a 3 month wait my AD telephoned me that my 114060 was fresh off the watchmakers bench and waiting for me in the store. I am only buying non-date watches from this point forward. The simplicity is unbeatable
Great stuff, I just ordered the no date Submariner, because I love the looks ever since I was a child. I dont really like the date window. And the history is also on its side.
Thanks for the video, very useful info indeed. I’m waiting for a Sub (no date) from my local AD in the South of England. Hopefully it won’t take too long, but I have a question for you. I have a somewhat small(ish) wrist (6.75-inches) and currently enjoy wearing my Datejust 36 (116234) which suits me well. I am a little concerned about the maxi case Sub, as all info I can gather suggests it’s rather chunky in spite of its 40mm stated size. Just wondered how you find the Sub.. does it wear a lot larger than 40mm, or is it still wearable in the terms of a my DJ 36. many thanks for your work and assistance in this question.
Very well put video. Although I own the 124060 I chose it for the very same reasons. I don't mind the cyclops on a Datejust but on a Submariner - no date.
IMHO the Submariner and the Submariner Date are both wonderful timepieces. I agree that the Submariner Date seems to be a little more popular than the Submariner. However, either choice is a winner. The primary factor and goal is what you believe looks good on your own wrist! The Submariner suits me well and I rotate it with my favorite Rolex i.e., Explorer 214270 MkII. These three Rolex models fit my style and for me all are "good to go" practically any place, any where, for nearly any activity and with nearly any attire - suits, casual etc. but not black tie :-).
The best way to clean the edge of the Cylops is to wrap a thin Rolex polishing cloth over a finger nail and wipe. This notion of fewer folk wearing a certain model is academic because only a minute decimal of one percent of people in the world wear a Rolex.
Michael Turner or they could try diving with their dive watch every now and then; one of the real advantage of a Submariner is you can do a salt water dive, rinse it in fresh water and go out that evening.
This is probably a hot take, but I prefer the 3135 movement over the 3235, even though the 3235 is clearly a better performing movement. The reason is probably really stupid, but it is what it is. When I set the watch, I want the the time to move up when I turn the crown up, or the hands to turn clockwise when I turn the crown clockwise. I absolutely hate it when I need to rotate the crown anticlockwise to change the time forwards.
The no date by a big margin... and fron my observation there is no dust next to the loupe .. but my problem is that it is soo much harder to read the.. could be that I am dyslexic or soem shit .. but I can never say if its 3 or 4 o'clock..or even 2 .. because the loup is blocking the hour and min hand and it takes mr much longer to figure out the time .. also I always forget to change the date and sometimes I still think its 31 where actually its already the first..so def no date .. not to mention less parts to break .. better systemtry and the watch wears a bit larger.. which is a good thing..however I still have chosen my hulk over the no date because you have to have the hulk .... its just such a beaitul and happy watch...loving my hulk. I wish they would babe the date just 36 Arabic numbers without a date...or a regular cellini time in steel ... at the price of a date just . WOW
Just got my sub no-date last week :D so happy because the date just makes the watch looks messy. I don't even remember how long that I have to wait until I got it :> :>
Big no-date fan! But even though I'm impressed by the looks of it I just can't do the ceramic thing, knowing that it just won't age as well as a pre-ceramic. Also I think the 14060M has a more appropriate and iconic case design, especially because of the holes. Combine that with the gold surrounds and you have an excellent daily wearer, that still looks luxurious even when it's all beaten up. Pre-owned 14060M's are already ageing nicely and I think that's what I'm getting before prices go up. But I also think one can never go wrong with the modern ceramic if it speaks to you more. All subs are simply fantastic.
This is precisely why I could not stand either over time (no pun intended, honestly): I liked the Submariner (Rolex apparently calls it just the Submariner, no 'No Date Submariner', as it is the original) but I did miss having the date function but the cyclops mechanism for delivering the date fails for me in that it absolutely attracts nicks and dirt just as the chap says. The better option for the same sort of thing from Rolex in my opinion is the Sea-Dweller and preferable to that, given the likelihood or murder or mugging in London for a Rolex, is the Omega Seamaster. In addition to not being the watch of choice nowadays for Z-list celebrities, drug dealers and pimps - but rather of NASA and the SBS - Omega has the corollary advantage of not being as recognisable to London's increasingly knife-wielding thieves as Rolex, as it is not worn in gang videos or laid out in police drug raid photos.
Honestly can’t decide which I like better. I really love having a date on the watch, but not 100% in love with the cyclops. It almost looks like a wart or something on the crystal. Lol.
E J Gallo Put your name on the list; it ussually gets to you quicker than they said, because lots of people enjoy pretending they have the money for one. Sick, but true.
