Respectfully I own the new ceramic sub 114060 and a seamster 2254. And I’m sorry to say the 2254 ref seamster 300 is probably in my humble opinion the best divers watch made
own both. love both. but i like wearing the omega better. When I wear the omega i feel like i chose the watch. When I wear the sub, i feel like it's the market's choice, not necessarily mine
Own both too, and prefer the Sub. The Sub is just timeless, and the proportions and comfort are perfect. I would have a hard time choosing between the Speedmaster and Sub though.
Vastly superior at absolutely nothing! Omega is JV and you know it. Bezel Bracelet, Clasp, Dial, White gold indices, History,Movement, Case thickness, Desirability, ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX. Omega is not even as good as Modern Tudors.
My co-axial Speedmaster is in for warranty repair. Brand new out of the box and the chronograph was stuttering... Not a good first impression. While he hopefully gets fixed, I will wear my 124060 that continues to do what he did so far - being reliable and accurate.
I have owned the sub , seadweller deapsea seadwekker 4000 and Seadweller 43 50th anniversary. And in my opinion rthe Seamaster is the most satisfying and less boring.
I am questioning if everyone saying they have a sub really do. In my opinion their is no watch brand under 10k that is more comfortable to wear then Rolex. Their case shape and wearability of the oyster bracelet is second to none. Don’t get me wrong I like both the Seamaster and submariner, but Seamaster is more bulky and I would say it’s not as refined. Also submariner is a more versatile watch to wear in my opinion. Also I feel 90% of Seamaster owners really want a sub and as soon as they get the opportunity to buy one do, but you rarely see someone who has a sub first think I need a Seamaster now.
Nice and honest comparison from someone that has experience using both of them. They are fantastic watches on their own merits. No need to pick between mom and dad.
Both are fantastic watches but pound for pound the omega is a better watch. One of the main reason why people think the Rolex is the best is because they hold there value and the reason for that is supply and demand and Rolex are amazing at doing it. If Rolex flooded the market with stainless steel divers the price of these on the grey market would go down.
I have both watches and i have to say omega its a better watch pound for pound no doubt about it i can't stop watching my two tone blue seamaster 💪... great content thanks 👍
I own 124060, wanted SMP and tried it. The clasp is horrible, so is the bracelet, the HE knob is annoying, the bezel action is embarrassing, there's AR coating on top of the crystal which defeats the purpose of the theme this watch is going. it's a stupid liability that will get worse with time until you polish it out or baby the watch like there's no tomorrow. The date gap between the dial and the mechanism is deep and annoying, gives off cheap feel they have to work in that direction if it needs to be better from the Sub, because it's not. The 007 version is better in this regard. Anyway, I walked out with a 3861 Sapphire Speedmaster - best modern Omega that is worth owning.
What a breath of fresh air listening to your comparison. I have both and agree with you 100%. I enjoy my Omega but there’s just no equal in divers to The Submariner 124060. And I’ve had other variations of the Sub. Thanks for truth telling. 🍻
@@BrendanBoswellThanks. It’s obvious to me the RU-vidr never spent any real time comparing these watches. Everyone knows the bracelet of the Seamaster is notoriously uncomfortable whereas the Submariner glide lock is the best in the industry. That fact alone makes the Sub far superior. That’s what happens when a reviewer never wears the watch and is motivated more by creating click bait. Keep them coming Brendan. RU-vid needs your straightforward insight.
I’ve owned the 40mm Submariner for about 9 years, my Seamaster is a little younger. Looking at your video I’m built differently to you and the 42mm Omega looks and feels the right size on me. I dive with both, but only to about a tenth of their rating. No difference in performance. I’ve got a few straps for my Omega but the Rolex stays on the bracelet. If I had to keep one it’d be the Omega. I find myself wearing it more. I guess I won’t be mugged for a Seamaster. If I want an investment I don’t buy a watch.
It seems your review is based only on how the watch feels on wrist, in which case I agree the Sub feels more comfortable, less heavy and less sharp on the bracelet. However, in terms of the actual watch mechanics I'd have to disagree - the Omega is the better watch (Co-Axial tech, METAS certification, 15,000 gauss etc). The only other category is aesthetics and that's purely subjective. Overall, anyone saying that there is "no way" that the Omega is the better watch is just wrong (for the above reasons). It all depends on what you prioritise and put value on.
Hum… I am almost certain that the Rolex calibres are also amagnetic like the Omega. Both companies developed the amagnetic materials within a joint industry research project… So what Omega has in this respect, Rolex has. Rolex simply don’t push any marketing about it as it does not have to… Now, at this time I much prefer my Omega Seamaster NTTD as it is much lighter than any Rolex Submariner as well as it incorporates a Metas certified co-axial escapement 🤩 The titanium Seamaster should be improved with a titanium calibre incorporating the spirate system…
Submariner is a fantastic watch. i owned one until sadly had to sell after covid affected my business. I really miss it but was always a little concious getting mugged! Seamaster 300 tried one recently in Auckland a lot heavier and bigger watch built like a tank. Lovely watch though and if i cant get the sub again i will purchase the SMP 300
Don’t do it! I did the same wasted 1000’s Omegas. Look at The Swiss Link they have a submariner just a bit above MSRP mint they ship worldwide ☘️ if you reach out to me on instagram I’ll get you the Deal Of The Week price from last weeks episode.
I have been buying watches since I was 18 years old in 1985. Interestingly enough, even through my teens spent in the Far East between Indonesia and Singapore and occasionally diving with Comex divers during recreational periods, I was never drawn into the Rolex aesthetics. I was at school with kids from Comex divers. So since then I acquired many watches but each time I was presented a Rolex, any Rolex, my reaction was meh… even though I knew the brand reputation. I have never gelled with Rolex aesthetics. Strange, isn’t it ?
Love the honesty. I’ve had a bond seamaster and the latest seamaster blue dial on a rubber strap. They were great, but every time I wore my sub they felt inferior in every way. No disrespect to Omega but it’s not even close. Nothing feels, wears or works like a Rolex. Also on another note Rolex always test and deploy technological improvements across their references instantaneously. For example when they made the sub 41mm, updated the bracelet size and movement it was done for the whole range instantly. No chance they would cock it up like Omega holding back the quick release straps and spirate system. Let’s not even mention how they updated the speedmaster and had no quick adjust on the clasp. Few months later, chronoscope had it! Pathetic!
The Submariner is the most iconic greatest watch of all time, wears like a glove extremely accurate and reliable absolutely love mine. I know exactly what he means by you forget it’s on. Built like a tank, thin, the most amazing bezel ever made and the most iconic watch. Great video
Pity the submariner was on the wrist the wrong way round, ruined the vlog a bit, so much for dedication to a lovely watch, more attention to detail needed. I do love both brands of watches though, cheers.
Here is a long list of all the points he made. 1. Sub is more comfortable but you can make the Seamaster more comfortable on a rubber strap. (That’s it) 😂
aesthetics hands down for rolex sports watch especially all brushed oyster bracelet. but in specs, price, availability & versatile in strap i'll go with omega.
Was eyeing the NTTD Omega, but as I have a small wrist at 5.7inch I couldn’t wear the omega, i can get away with the size of the sub as it doesn’t wear like a 41mm, but logically the BB58 fits me best. The Rolex sub does feels way more comfortable than the omega.
And she was right…to a certain point. Movt, dial and case back display all are modern and better in the omega. Bracelet on the Sub is superior by far. Marketing on the sub is superior. And resale of Rolex is superior. But if you are to just put the damn watch on and look at it in the year 2024..the omega is better. It’s bold. The Rolex is conservative. I have had the no date, date, even the sea dweller. All great watches but that are all the same watch more or less when looking down at the dial. The old pre ceramic dial seamaster did nothing for me but the new model is beautiful. So for me Rolex for the brain and the omega for the heart lol
the green one, that green oyster perpetual does also look beautiful. For a daily wearer go to the gym, to the do anything watch witch one would you recomend? @@BrendanBoswell
I have them both now, and I forget i'm wearing the Omega as well, but my wrist and forearm are way bigger than yours, that's probably why I'm not noticing it, almost 20 cm around the wrists.
Can’t really argue his conclusion while also respecting his approach to the assessment. I mean it could have been simpler by polling 100 people and learning that 100 to 0 would pick the Sub if offered one or the other instantly and for free. We know there would be,for a host of reasons, to include the foray into subjective statements on comfort and provenance many factors in one’s decision. I reach the same conclusion in both mentioned categories, but value, availability, etc are major considerations factored into a purchase decision and in many cases including these factors would result in less than a 100 in a 100 person sample selecting the Sub.
I absolutely love my standard speedy, if I remember correctly some of the 38’s are automatic and 15bar so their is that to consider. Appreciate you sharing and watching.
Rolex considers everything the customer truly needs making it the perfect go everywhere do anything watch while omega tries to chase what it thinks the customer wants which makes it impractical. Only thing about the sub is I wish they’d make all the shiny ceramic matte ceramic instead. It needs to get back to its tool watch roots it has lost a lot of that charm with all the shine of the bezel and dial
Right on the money Brendan!! I'm exactly like you, I own both and love both but I enjoy my Omega more.. thanks for saying it like it is.. my POV is that Rolex may be the King but the Omega is the ROCK STAR!!🎸 💪⌚️😃🤘
@@BrendanBoswell thanks for your comments, Brendan I also have a Speedmaster Chronoscope Panda 43mm and 12mm in height manual wind on the new adjustable bracelet, and wears smaller then the specs say, gorgeous piece and I love it, but no one talks about it which is wierd to me, would love to hear your thoughts on it.. thanks brother 🙂👍
I much prefer the Seamaster NTTD as it is lighter than any Submariner. One day, Rolex may release a titanium Submariner, hopefully all matt… not shiny.
Great video. I have a Seamaster on the rubber -it’s great (and I forget I’m wearing it). I agree with your comments on this watch on the bracelet. I can’t wait to get the Submariner too… maybe in 2027 I’ll get the call…
I have both, they are different, of course Rolex sub stands out, I would, however, say that Seiko on divers have some good pieces, one I have and is a keeper is Seiko 55th anniversary SBEX009 amazing piece !
The watch itself (the Seamaster) is great if a bit thick and with the stupid completely irrelevant helium escape wart. If (and it's a big IF) you've got the wrist for it, and by that I really mean over 8". The bracelet however is truly appalling, Omega (eventually) relented and fixed the Speedmaster, why they persist with the Seamaster one is beyond me. I'm pretty convinced 8/10 of Omega fanbois commenting here don't own a Seamaster.
The Seamaster is a better watch mechanically, and a slightly higher level of chronometer certification and testing. Having said that…. Seamaster cons: No need for a helium escape valve Bracelet style is outdated No precious metal on the dial Bezel is different to grip underwater Doesn’t retain value like a Rolex Too big for some people Seamaster pros: Takes to rubber strap better than the Submariner The case design is more detailed Less text on the dial You get more for the price No AD waitlist or AD ass kissing needed You can buy one right now at retail You are not looked at as some dickhead More dial options Submariner cons: You can’t get one at an AD Too much text on the dial Awkward lug to case design, limited on strap options. You run the risk of getting robbed for it It’s only COSC certified Few dial color options The price is too much for what it is. Submariner pros: Value retention Precious metal on the dial Best bracelet in the watch industry Best dive bezel functionality.
The sub even gets better when you out it on oysterflex strap…I swapped my bracket out for the summer and I don’t want to take it off granted I have several other Rolexes, Omegas, Cartiers, and Breitlings.
@@BrendanBoswell sea master 300 25318000 (2004) most ive ever spend on my current watch cwc sbs divers watch issued to special forces they hard to get hold of as and when in stock ..great watch mate
Completely agree and after watching the same video she did, the things she compared are ridiculous. Now while I agree the Sub is a better watch, I do prefer the astectics of the Seamaster more. But that's just my personal preference, but even with that said, the sub crushes!
1000% correct. Say what you want about Rolex, there isn’t a single sports watch out there from any manufacturer that beats the Submariner in overall quality, functionality, reliability, and aesthetics.
May I ask this: if Submariner’s (which I also have) market value become similar price as Seiko SKX; would your stand still be that strong? I’m not trying to argue or dissuade your current decision; I’m just curious if the popularity value is not in the equation, that’s all… 🤔
For me my love for the sub is not about it value, I have to payed way over retail for my 2007 Sub as I wanted it, I’m also a GS owner! Thanks again for your comment and sharing.
What a dumb question. In what world would a submariner ever be a similar price as a Seiko skx?? Those two watches are literally leagues apart in build quality. They aren’t even comparable. That’s like asking if a Ford Pinto and a Ferrari were the same price, would you still prefer the Ferrari. Absolutely absurd reasoning.
@@whereRbearsTeethHe’s not talking a Sub being the same price as a Seiko, you dickhead. He’s talking about the price reflecting the actual value of the watch, not its RRP. You’re clearly a bit stupid aren’t you? You honestly think that prices of luxury goods have nothing to do with the label that’s on them? Rolex is no exception. Let’s hope that Santa brought you a brain for Christmas this year; you clearly need one.
Madness out of both watches pick the one you like, not anything else Its what you think 🤔 no one else And as for sports watch in 2023 it's a Gshock in 2023
@BrendanBoswell I know I know :))))) of course. Even her husband has YT channel. I believe u have mentioned her in past as well, unless it was a different female youtuber that time 😉
Rolex got no anti-reflective, lower power reserve, no anti-magnetism, lesser accurate and dated movement... so how is it a better watch than the Omega? The only thing going on for Rolex is hype. Without that hype, it has nothing on the Omega.
So I guess based on your decision, my G-SHOCK Square GW-M5610 is a better watch than the Rolex if it’s just about comfort and forgetting the watches there
... all argument about certain brands or watch is very very very subjective. Some people prefer apple watch as their best watch to eat sleep drink and even attending business meeting. Some use Gshock some use seiko some use Cartier. Watch collecting is very personal and subjective to taste like food. The best according to who? For me the best is still gshock or quartz watches. So IMO no need to fight and force someone to have the same tastebud as you.
Having Owned And Lost 8 Tudors I’m going from an owner’s perspective! The Pelagos is as you well know 💩 💩 💩! It’s at best a homage to the king! Thanks so much for watching and sharing. You can be honest on my small channel😂😂😂
Blimey we are all allowed an opinion. Why are you so offended if somebody preferred the Omega? In my opinion Rolex makes better watches than Omega, but so what? Wear what you love, and relax a little....
The 60th anniversary is so different it’s a hard one to call. I would rather have a Bond than a Submariner if I had to choose between them I’d pick the bond every time but I still don’t think it’s a betting watch.
Every dive watch is better than the sub for the only reason you can get them without the need of licking the a.... of an authorized dealer or pay 4 times the price on the black market.......
@@whereRbearsTeeth i have a seamaster chronograph and i love it but , would love to get a sea dweller or a deep sea one day , i do love the sub but i prefer a larger watch . omegas milled clasp and solid end links on the brosnan era seamaster definately gave rolex something to think about which undoubtedly caused rolex to up their game and create the now superb clasp
@@alexhudson3574 I agree, Omega is probably the main reason that Rolex improved their bracelets. In the 90s omega was producing far superior bracelets and clasps for sure. The tables have turned now though. The oyster bracelet with glidelock clasp is hands down the best in the business. The biggest issue that I have with Omega’s dive watches is the bezel action. It’s absolute trash. I just don’t understand why they put zero effort into their bezels. Even my $1900 Doxa 300t has a far superior bezel compared to Omega.
Y'need to get Your head straight, Pally. The World's NUMBER ONE Most Famous Sports Watch, EVER, is The Omega Speedmaster. It IS the World's most Famous Watch! PERIOD! Real Astronauts have worn them & those watches have been to places very few humans have. Where did the Submariner's Cachet originate from? JAMES BOND, who was A FICTIONAL Character. In the IAN FLEMING books, Bond originally wore An Explorer. Ian Fleming also wore An Explorer 1016. The Speedmaster is made by Omega, as are the various iterations of The Seamaster 300. And, you can Buy One! TODAY! All You need to be Holding is The Necessary Folding. No ChickenShit "Waiting-List" Hype. ANY modern Omega Tops any Modern Rolex in ANY Category. Submariner is just A Show Pony! How many of them get wet or go into Space?????
You clearly don’t have much actual hands on experience with both brands. As a matter of fact, based on your absurd comment, I’d venture to say that you don’t actually own any of them. Omega is a great brand, and the speedmaster is an absolute icon, no doubt. Omega has definitely accomplished more, horologically speaking, than Rolex. That being said, Rolex undeniably builds a better watch than omega, period. Pick up a Seamaster 300 and a Rolex submariner 124060. Turn the bezel on both watches. Open and close the clasp on both watches. Put them both on your wrist. There is a clear and obvious difference in build quality and robustness. I have owned multiple watches from both brands over many years, and although I think omega has a more interesting and impressive history as a brand, there simply is no doubt that in modern times, Rolex builds a superior watch.
@@whereRbearsTeeth I am 70 years old. I have owned 4 Omega Speedmasters, including a 145.022-75, which i wore for 22 years. Have YOU ever worn any watch for longer than 22 Days? I still possess 2 Speedmasters. I also posses A Rolex Explorer 14270, which is A Wonderful daily ToolaDellick Ticker! Rolex make A Damn Fine Watch & No Error! But Modern Submariners are just Show Pony Jewellery. I got my first wind-up mechanical watch in 1962 when i was 9, probably before your Father was born! I know my onions, Bunky!
