Rolling With The Room at Origins BJJ 

I hear he even stared in a movie and a music video. 👍

@@jameswallin1539 wow really??? That's pretty cool, I'm going to have to check it out. Do you happen to know the name of the movie?

@@jesserennicke7343 Ahockolyps Zombies, hockey, what more does a person need.

I was just coming here to say the Wiltse brothers are the best and the second blue belt looks like the best Amish roller this side of the Mason Dixon line.

Did I happen to see a Trent Fairley in this video by chance?

I agree it's awesome, It's a joy to see his guard passing, looks like break dancing

The role with me (3:06-6:30) really does relate to Andrew’s rant on strength being an important factor. What I felt was the strength discrepancy can compensate for the discrepancy in speed and technique (to a point). I can be a beat behind and pull myself back into alignment. Then the question become does the strength discrepancy overcome the speed and technical discrepancy. In my case here, no, not really. All those facets are simultaneously important, and there are always areas we need to be working to improve. I love watching how he kept me at bay with his legs and constant off-balancing. It was an honor to roll with him.

There is a lesson there though. A lot of the blue belts play jiu jitsu and when they get technically beat simply accept the position because they accepted they were beat and let things play out. The white belt was spazzing, some, but also simply refused to accept a position that Andrew did not fully impose on him. Was it technical or beautiful positioning on the white belts part? Of course not, but he made Andrew earn the positions a little more. Might as well see what you can get away with :)

@@zsohaihfaosav Foe sure. Persistence and that never give up mindset are definitely a part of the equation.

Was thinking exactly the same thing.

Hes a teddy bear in real life, and my favorite roll in the gym as a young female whitebelt

@@Izzy-ez7lb why he wearing the wrestling shoes

You can read Noah’s comment that he wrote to Jiusma

But that would involve scrolling, looking at reading. Why do all that when it’s easier to just complain Jim?

Strongly agree 😉

Usually I do, but Andrew was masterful at pummeling his legs to the inside and putting the strength of my fingers against the strength of his leg press. He’s a wizard for sure!

@@noahjenkins3331 I like your attitude about it, big guys don't usually know how to handle that kind of frustration but you were clearly thinking your way out of stuff. As much as one can vs a stud like Andrew that is, you're a beast on the mats regardless

I believe that’s known as technique

Thanks Ryan. I just wanted to give him a good look and a roll that could make him work a bit. I never expected a reaction to me like I am seeing on this board. I’m a middle-aged scientist who is the favorite grappling partner to children, not “nightmare fuel”. Haha.

@@noahjenkins3331 A Black Belt whos not only big and strong, but technical is everyone's nightmare fuel 😅

Me too John :)

Not fading, just trying to wait for him to commit to set up a counter. But I should have attacked more, you’re right.

@@noahjenkins3331 you did better than most I've seen from the hours of Andrew rolling footage I've watched.

Thanks! I’m trying to get myself back into tournament shape as well and it felt great to feel that pace. I just wanted to give him a decent roll.

@@noahjenkins3331 Rolling with Andrew Wiltse would likely tax the shit out of most. You look like a beast and gave his a tough round. Meant no disrespect.

No disrespect taken on my part, it’s true, his gas tank is unbelievable. For a heavyweight mine is as well, but that would be a losing battle for me eventually.

That guy was a beast! He reminded me of Mark Coleman lol. Also, very efficient jiu jitsu by Andrew repummeling the legs, reshooting the butterfly, making sure the big guy couldn't make any good grips, and capitalized on the passing opportunity beautifully. No wasted movement. I learned a lot.

@@jax2442 You know, I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but yeah, Mark Coleman totally.

@@vodking Thanks guys, I just wanted to give him a good roll and make the visit up to our town of 8500 people more worth it. I learned a lot as well, it was one of the most informative rolls in my 17 years of grappling, despite the fact that there may not seem like a ton is going on to an untrained eye. There was a lot going on, at top speed. I would love to go no-gi with him as well (not talking crap, I just want to learn). It was honor to have him, and I think we put up a pretty impressive showing of toughness and future potential for BJJ in our community. Props to Andrew for being someone who doesn't turn down rolls after a seminar! And props to Jesse Reine for founding and running a school that brings so much joy to the students and always strives to refine and teach world-class technique. If there is anyone traveling in the northern Wisconsin area, feel welcome to get some training in at Origin BJJ in Rice Lake.

We have a seminar at Neutral Ground BJJ in West Bend on June 25th

@@WiltseBrothers You coming to Florida anytime soon?

Andrew has previously stated that he can get to taps quicker on brown and black belts because their responses are a bit more anticipatable..

He seems to be just a ruthless, just not moving as fast.

@@hermanmelville3871 I think that's also partly because of the gi. Slows everything down.

6:15 Super slick.

Yes, very slick. I almost tapped to that short armbar.

Birds over here like "...but did it work?" 🤨

I can. We aren't really sure which people enjoy more. I should do a poll actually. Pure rolling with no commentary? Rolling then commentary at the end?

@@WiltseBrothers that's a good question. I know personally I like the rolling with the commentary at the end! That way we get to see the rolls, then we get to hear your thought process behind it all, and what you look for in each position! Do only is it interesting, it's also helpful as well!

@@WiltseBrothers that's a good question. I know personally I like the rolling with the commentary at the end! That way we get to see the rolls, then we get to hear your thought process behind it all, and what you look for in each position! Do only is it interesting, it's also helpful as well!

@@WiltseBrothers I'm a big fan of the commentary, it helps me understand a lot more of what your thought process is when in certain positions. I'm new, and while I can pick up the physical part fast enough, developing that mindset is where I struggle and I make some fucking downright idiotic choices, usually in the aim of being creative and trying weird shit that I've never seen 😅

My passport application has been sitting, applied for, since September. It's stuck in government limbo hell.

I had a blown L5-S1.

@@WiltseBrothers Understood. Hope you are healing up.

The gist of it is that It's normally a combination of pressure and threats, on top of them really wanting to escape and making small mistakes.

Wiltse is so fast look at that knee on belly you push it off on your side he has your back every time

The angle was there, and I knew I could at least attempt it without hurting my back

@@WiltseBrothers i see. Was just curious cuz i dont usually see people go from darce in that situation. Probably a cool thing for me to try 😁

He realized it, but he also realized that Andrew let go of it on purpose and wanted to wait a half second for his attention to be diverted rather than attack solely on Andrew’s terms. There is a lot going on in these exchanges that people don’t see. Good comment though, and good eye.

He actually does speak Russia. Now I’ve said too much.

Got one of those at Checkmat Temecula. The guy walked into my gym (Checkmat Signal Hill) for open mat one Friday and all of us literally said, “what the fuck is that?”

@@hermanmelville3871 hahaha, they say they're humans but I'm not sure if I believe them 😂 When the guy at my gym got me in a head lock I thought my head was about to pop off

I think that's a sharpie from one of the kids

It was a dry erase marker.

Angles. Lots of angles. Inversions. Maximum leverage. I like to hunt for Omoplatas on bigger guys. Never ever make a mistake with your frames or you're in for a world of hurt.

Awesome! Being on the lighter and stockier site this helps a lot. How do you pass guards of very lanky guys? How do you break through their first line of grips and legs on you?

If they are on their back, you should really try to make sure that you get the first grip and use it. Once you get an outside pass going, they'll over correct to turn in. Then you play the inside and avoid their length.

Angles and alignment. Andrew was masterful at meeting my forward power with circling into angles, and re-pummeling his legs to the inside. It was my grip strength against his leg press at that point. I don’t care how strong your grip is, you can’t hang on for long there. He would use my forward pressure to give him more momentum to pivot, and when he pivots, my forward pressure becomes the initial momentum for his sweep. Left, right, forward, back, chaining the changes in angles together so that I couldn’t gain any progress in passing. Super fun roll.

Yes, that would be interesting, I hear he is mostly a competitor in no-gi :)

Haha we talked about that while there. It's a tough gym, they train pretty hard.

Feet and butts actually lol! No heads yet, but probably eventually.

@@Izzy-ez7lb there actually has been a few heads too 😬

Yeah remember the guy that was being a a hole to u and Megan. 💪👍

Yes, wrestling shoes, good eye. Not tennis shoes. Designed for the mats. Everyone stay calm. The laces did start tucked. I’m sure Andrew was getting ready to untie them himself during the roll to use them to try and choke me.

Hes an Olympic power lifter, doctor, and trains with some of the best heavyweights in the world. It's far more than power, it's technique and angles combined with that "old man strength".

And it looks like the smaller guy is putting all his points into youth and speed. How dare either one of them use the abilities that their individual bodies are best suited for! Or maybe…….. there is more going on here for both of them than old man strength, youth, and speed. Putting “all your points into old man strength” would probably get you subbed by Andrew 5 times in a round like this. I’m going to go out in a limb and say he has likely done that before to guys that are just strong. But hell, what do I know.

The old guys with the wrestling shoes are always strong as fuck. It’s just a fact of life. The sun rises in east, sets in the west, and old guys in wrestling shoes are strong as fuck. Reminded me of some of the black belts I used to train with at my old gym that would violate me regularly lol. And yes I know he clearly has excellent technique and not just strength 🙂

Oh man…..I have officially become the old black belt with wrestling shoes. Andrew already grabbed the attention of Panda Express, maybe I can reach out to Geritol…..or Advil. Or judging by the look on my face a lot of the time, Metamucil.

Exactly! Lmao

I honestly don't care and I don't think it's a big deal. I used to roll in basket ball shorts and a T shirt. It's fine

Thanks for you opinion. I mainly wear them because my feet sweat a lot and I start to slip towards the end of rolling sessions. Yes, more than most people. Let’s call it hyperhydrosis. Instead of compromising my technique and muscle memory formation, I wear the shoes as a training tool to train longer and more consistently. You may have seen people tape their fingers or wear knee wraps, for similar reasons for other body parts. In tournaments it doesn’t matter as much because those matches are short and sporadic, so I seldom wear them. They do give me better grip on top but also take away from pummeling into lasso and spider guard as smoothly. It also opens me up to footlocks more, so my body alignment and defense has to be on point. I have never had anyone complain, and if I go into a new gym, I always ask if it is ok if I wear them. No one has minded. In fact, this RU-vid comment board is really the first indication that so many people have a problem with it. I will take your order under serious advisement and think deeply about my choices in life. In the meantime, enjoy your jiu-jitsu journey!