For some reason I've always really liked Agrippa and the friendship between him and Augustus. He may be one of the most underrated generals in history.
@Frank Lucas it's interesting to me to think about how Augustus usually holds the title hands down as the greatest Emperor, but Agrippa is rarely mentioned in a similar light. I would personally say he's up there with Ceasar and Scipio, almost more so when you consider his tempered approach to politics and his own personal status.
@@williamdukeofnormandy1403 agrippa was responsible for almost all of the infrastructural improvements throughout the empire. He wasn't just a general.
Augustus was one of the most effective ruler for sure, but he definitely wasn't a great commander, having abandoned his legions on some occasions, and preferring to delegate the leadership of his forces when possible.
I stumbled upon it 2 weeks ago. Now I don't ever want it to end. It's hilarious that the caster was watching I Claudius for the first time whilst doing this podcast. Thanks for enriching my time.
@@tessierashpoolmg7776 Okay so it's not just me, like I havent slipped back into an isolated depression but this series, despite knowing the history already through and through, is just addicting to listen to because of the fluid and concise way it is delivered.
@@tessierashpoolmg7776 I know what you mean lol. It was like a chapter of my life ended when I finished the final episode. Dan Carlin is about the only thing I've found that holds a flame to this
This is so well done. I like the down to earth approach. You don’t sacrifice accuracy in order to sound clever and entertaining. If you can get sponsors that aren’t too intrusive, go for it. You’ve earned the right.
It is the year of our Lord 2023 and there are still very few things I can think of that would be cooler then a mock naval battle held in a lake. Seriously that sounds like the most amazing spectacle ever.
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I'm rewatching the excellent I Claudius production in conjunction with listening to the relevant episodes of your wonderful series and reading wikipedia history pages on the main protagonists. I first watched I Claudius on FTA TV at age 15 and, whilst enthralled by the performances and main plot, I failed to follow the detail of the relationships (which my new understanding reveals are quite convoluted), It is fascinating that aspects of the Julio-Claudian dictatorship of this ancient culture, which has myriad influences on contemporary society, is illuminated for us through these three platforms!
Hey Mike, been with you since 2014. Im currently on the english civil war revolutions and beyond but listening to this (the algorithm sent me back) just makes me want to say its nice to be back here in REUM.
Thank you so very much for uploading this amazing series. I am an insomniac but I don't loose any sleep over that. These make the wee hours that much more bearable.
I read Graves "I Claudius" over 30 years ago and watched the series over 40 years ago when everyone else was (including the parish priest). I and don't find it hard to believe Livia could have arranged the deaths of Tiberius's rivals. The old romans seemed to have loved their genetic lineages like religion, maybe more than religion. They sacrificed so much for their family lines. All Graves did was flesh out the story. He actually seems to have been in awe of women and considering how murderous and ambitious moms figured more highly not much later, he is not off the wall by following the rumors. I know you can't think that they really saw things in modern terms (Jung's 2000 years of directed thinking separates us from them) and they were used to killing for just about anything they really wanted. But this series is so good, I'm going to listen to the whole endless thing as long as my strength and stomach holds out. .
I am also a big fan of the novels and the series " I, CLAVDIVS " . I would be a bit nervous if Livia asked me to her home for a home cooked meal. ( Gulp ) By home cooked of course I mean cooked by her home slaves.
I loved Graves book and the TV adaptation was excellent. Of course a lot was artistic license but riveting all the same. In saying that I would be inclined to be unavailable for one of Livias dinners.
Ancient historians stated that Livia supposedly posioned potential rivals to Tiberius' ascension as the next emperor. By eliminating the favored heirs, Octavian was forced to choose the former despite his dislike for the role. Of course, ancient historians hated powerful people that stomped their power or they don't fit as to what roles people should play in their society ( we knew that ancient Romans hate powerful women).
Ur one of the most amazing history people I've ever gotten the honor to listen to. Thank you so much for your work, and I hope that you someday work on other periods and places in history.
@@cezarcaruntu He was de facto emperor and clearly grooming Octavian to be his heir apparent. Names aren't really that important, Bashar al-Assad for example is basically king of Syria despite using the title President
Fantastic podcast. I always love my serendipitous walks along the internet, finding great historical and scientific resources to learn things. This is probably way old but you do you buddy, if a little advert is all we have to handle for a nice lesson on history? Fine by me!
Please resist the ads, it will pay dividends, your product is an excellent piece of historical value, its the one I remember and refer because I am not annoyed by ads, I understand the income motif, but holding off will pay dividends.
I listen to these podcasts each night in bed i usually nod off between 20 to 30 mins.. do you think subconsciously im still learning after I fall asleep 😴?
Thank you again! I listed to most of these through his website, but it is really helpful to group them into more long form podcasts. I have to admit though. I start to lose interest after Comodus. Everyone else loves to look at the fall. I tend to like the rise.
I read I Claudius and Claudius the God before the TV series came out. With a cast of brilliant Shakespearean actors I loved the series but it is Graves rewriting of history, fun though it was.
I first watched "I, Claudius" late 70's presented by Masterpiece Theater and recently bought a remastered DVD and rewatched it... Marvelous... then somehow discovered your channel and like your presentation... I read a few Roman history books, paperbacks and found the state offices very confusing, I guess so that power would be diffused but which in republics always leads to oligarchs, then democracies, and finally dictators....
Just a reminder of where the uniform Neo-Fascism you "contracted", comes from. Heil Trump!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ho7PPR93XJk.html
I gotta imagine that when Tiberius was left as the only dude and came back Augustus was breathing heavily while whispering "...You better not fuck it after I'm gone..."
So she went all the way to the eastern Mediterranean at the cover of dark, poisoned an already dying of an infected wound man and went back to rome unnoticed, all of that in a world with no phone nor planes on top of a highly misogynist environment ?
She was immensely powerful, Augustus would defer some areas of statecraft to her, more so later on their lives. All it took her is a snap of the finger to get someone killed lol
@@antaltakacs7466 immensely powerful? Having whole state departments at her command?? All of that being legally the possession of her father or husband with no access to milirary command and not even the right to attend Senate meetings..... she did all that. Falling for the evil wife/mother trope that was pretty much disproved.
@@mat3714 You may be overthinking this Mat. These were ancient times. Livia was the most powerful person after the aforementioned folks. Would you tell her “no”? Of course not, because she’d have you killed. You would have no right to a trial or jury. You’d be killed on the spot. The end. Times were different.
@@RoyAnderson ya , exactly... time were different, woman were mostly possessions. You are thinking with a modern person perspective. If you get assassinated because of a wive it was usually the male benefactor of the opening who was responsible. Very few women held power during most of humanity history and almost always due to power vacuum caused by lack of male lineage. I'd like to add that I'm glad that this trend is dying.
Thank you for making this - its amazingly well done. You have a very good and clear history telling voice and you tell the story really well. And I would of course have no problem at all with you making a little better living through promoting Audible. I think they do some good work too, and it's in the right similar vein thing. Again, thank you for doing all that work and sharing it - this gave me a very good time and brightened my mood very much. Thank you. All the best from Oslo, Norway. Sincerely.
From Wikipedia: Lise Hetland argues that the present construction began in 114, under Trajan, four years after it was destroyed by fire for the second time. She reexamined Herbert Bloch's 1959 paper, which is responsible for the commonly maintained Hadrianic date, and maintains that he should not have excluded all of the Trajanic-era bricks from his brick-stamp study. Her argument is particularly interesting in light of Heilmeyer's argument that, based on stylistic evidence, Apollodorus of Damascus, Trajan's architect, was the obvious architect.
Octavian was so lucky to have a great friend in Marcus Agrippa, who happen to be a great General and Tactician too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Agrippa was A G, WAS A BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great pairing old Gaius Octavian and Marcus Agrippa
I'm starting to find my only complaint with this series. There doesn't seem to be even a mention most of the time of what was going on in the rest of the empire. I know all the military conquests, campaigns, wars, and battles would start making things to long, but from one episode to the next it's hard to tell how the size of the empire was changing and such. If anyone has suggestions on a source for the militaristic/expansions side of thing is appreciate it.
Spahn won 20 games (13) more times than Johnson won 15 (11) and Spahn's career ERA was lower (3.09-3.29) despite pitching over 1000 more innings. Spahn is superior and it's not close.
Is Octavian's general Agrippa the same Agrippa II as the "King of the Jews" Herodian line Julius Marcus Agrippa I? I understand this is a strictly historical account of Rome, but I'm trying to put it together in my mind, and Roman names are reused so much, sometimes it's difficult to follow...
Thank you for this great historical series. Hey, wait a minute. Didn't Titus Pullo, who really was the father of young Caesarean, sneak the young boy out from under the clutches of Rome? Ok you caught me. Now how hysterically correct do you consider the HBO/BBC mini series " ROME ". At the very least it was very good entertainment. Was " I,CLAVDIVS " closer to the actual history?
Most of the highly effective leaders/generals were young. Alexander, Napoleon, Agrippa, Hannibal, Scipio Africanus etc etc. It should be the norm for people around 23 to lead, its when the brain peaks, according to neuroscience, biology and, well, history.
Romania never exists on any maps until World War I, but on a map going back to Caesar's Roman Empire i can see DACIA pretty much between the Danube river on south and river dnister on east, that territory is present Romania in most part.. at least no one can negate DACIA because it existed before roman empire. IT WAS THERE
@@ghostinthemachine8243 You must be unfamiliar with Roman History. They made many "foreigners" their rulers time after time. From Spain to Syria. Egypt was a possession anyway so would not be considered so Foreign. Even a son of a Slave became an Emperor. Listen to Duncan's HISTORY of ROME podcast and see how wild it got at times.
@@robertgiles9124 Egypt was not an official province at the time and Cleopatra was not a Roman citizen. The child was not eligible to be an heir under Roman law.
@@BRTowe The Child could have been adopted by a Roman General and all bets would be off. He was after all HALF Roman...Rome had some very wacky Emperors anyway at times...so anything was possible. My MAIN point was about how Octavian Killed the poor child.
The Sibylline Books were a collection of oracular utterances that were purchased from a sibyl by the last king of Rome, Tarquinius Superbus. They were consulted at momentous crises through the history of the Republic and the Empire. They are not to be confused with the so-called Sibylline Oracles, twelve books of prophecies.
Thanks for doing what you do budd I love history but most of all Ancient Roman history. I listen to the histories of Rome sipping on some coffee. I have a pinterest account you might like what I have under PAX ROMANA.
What a powerful feminist! Bravo! You accept everything without discussing disclaimers; but, that for poor Lydia. I’m convinced Lydia was a powerful woman and to shamelessly try to protect her reveals the bias that women are weak and unable to handle their affairs.
Robby House Maybe cause they were no citizens and had no opportunity of social mobility inside the empire which would sort of guarantee the permanency of the position
It's also likely that since they were all of a sudden given power and prestige they would be far more loyal and dedicated to their job as opposed to Romans, especially noble Romans who would likely find such a job demeaning, tedious, boring and beneath them selves, they after all had parties to attend and adultery to commit
Robby House Augustus felt that slaves were being freed somewhat wantonly, in that very often those who had become somehow burdensome were freed, essentially placing them in the care of the state. He changed the law to make this more difficult, but as many freed slaves still remained, he may have wished to lead by example by employing them.
+Robby House: Perhaps it's because such work was felt by the fabulously wealthy to be beneath their station. The wealthy stay that way by seizing the few jobs with astronomical reward, not by working the many jobs which barely pay to fund platters of door mouse appetizers for one fancy dinner party.
