ROR: TLOZ A Link to the Past (SNES vs GBA & Four Swords) 

Harcion Gaming A decent way to farm Hearts and Rupees in an emergency. :1 I consider the Shovel to be an underrated item in the franchise as a whole. :3

Harcion Gaming that net camr in handy because of that bee from the ice cave and a funny gimmick to deflect agahnim's spell back at him...

With your shovel dig to the core!

I've dug up whole fields. Love it.

Link's Awakening reference

electricmastro I don't mind the voice myself, but I fail to understand how not wanting to play a game where you constantly listen to a kid's rapid-fire YAHs (when previously there weren't any) should be considered unreasonable.

Yeah I get a bit annoyed that it happens EVERY time you swing your sword but far from a deal breaker

+electricmastro IKR.

I will say that it does seem like the 2D zeldas are faster paced in combat, so the repeated clip probably plays faster, and you def use the sword to remove bushes more often (because they block your path), so it doesn't quite have the some restraint as 3D zelda.

+electricmastro But it is kinda anoying. A real game ruining thing is yoshis voice since yoshis story. I cant stand it. Yoshis island was perfect as it was, that stupid voice in the remake though...it grinds my gears...

Which is why I don't do ROR episodes on them. I use them as a proxy for original games I don't own since it's literally emulating the original.

+Michael Perry What Exo is saying is that emulation of one game on another system is the definition of a port.

+ExoParadigmGamer Next time could you do remake rebreak of final fantasy 4, 5, and 6 since they were ported yet remade like the graphics and sound to the GBA?

No. Not to sound like a jerk, or sound like I hate the GBA (I love the system to death!) ,but They really are pretty much ports. They change absolutely NOTHING that should be noticeable. An RoR would be AMAZING for The first 7 FF games, but I think they should be the PSP/IOS/PC/Android Remakes.

And a RoR on OoT 3D, Twilight Princess, 4 Swords, etc.

Are the items really randomized? I swear I've always got them in the same order, other than the 3 elemental orbs and the ice/fire wands.

​@@Coreisus Nah the original game isnt randomized the items are always in the same place in every save file you create. OP is talking about the fan made A Link to the Past randomizer.

You beat me to it

And that solution is exactly the same in the two versions, except that you can cheese it in the SNES version with the Cane of Somaria

same. and the other thing about the gba version, is that when you step in puddles, it is not as loud and echoey like the snes. the snes is loud for me!

My favorite change to the gba version is link yells when swinging his sword like ocarina of time

and saving doesn't count as a death like it did on SNES

On top of the saving location, it also saves your current health, unlike the SNES version

Oh!

All the more reason to keep Link being FABULOUS.

Yeah it's not a glitch, it was a limitation of the amount of colors they could use on the character model. And the pink is from his transformation into a pink bunny. It makes me wonder why the bunny had to be pink, if the developers decided to make the bunny blonde that likely would have solved the issue

I'm glad. It makes him unique.

Um, no. It was a choice made to help differentiate the color of the skin from the hair, given the low resolution of the sprite.

This is completely incorrect. The pink hair was a deliberate design decision. The proof is that in the concept art pre the making of the game, Link had pink hair! Do you think they would have just left in a glitch through the entire year or so of development and never thought to change it despite it being a super easy fix that even many amateur romhackers can do? Of course not. They left it in because they chose it to be pink in the first place Here's a magazine interview with Miyamoto prior to the release of the game showing some of the concept art for Link, with, guess what, pink hair!: i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0014/19/1393274654463.jpg

***** He's my best buddy-o

Haedox I'm the second best buddy-o

BradleyNews11 Yes m'am. But you are moreso my senpai :^)

When did you?

ThisIsn'tMackie The Skyward Sword box

You're goddang right. It's because button mashing to attack. In OoT, 90% of the time you can run past all the enemies. Also, enemies have more variety in how you kill them, meaning you don't hear the annoying voice clips as much.

@@chaoskiller6084 more variety? In oot, the main weapons that can kill enemies (outside of ur sword) is really only bombs/bombchu, arrows, and megaton hammer, (granted theres certain enemies that dies to say the hookshot/boomerang/deku nuts/slingshot but those are far and few between). If i am not mistaken u don't hear the voice clips with the arrows and hammer and i wanna say slingshot but u do with the bombs wen throwing. Not much variety there in how to kill enemies. Whereas in lttp, u not only have arrows, bombs, and hammer to attk enemies u have the fire/ice rod to attk enemies, the medallions. Only weapon that doesn't kill enemies in lttp where it kills certain enemies in oot is the boomerang (there might be one or 2 enemies such as keese that dies with the boomerang but i honestly don't use it enough to know). And if ur skilled enough u can even kill some enemies with the cane of somaria so i'd argue theres more variety to kill enemies. Granted once u get the 3rd best sword weapons outside of bombs and the hammer are weaker than the sword so not much reason to use em (though same can be said abt biggoron sword in oot). Now it is possible to get the silver arrows by beating just 3 dungeons in the dark world (dark world is def not linear u can beat the dungeons in any order given u have the weapons/skill/knowledge) which straight up demolishes any non shielded enemy to the point where the sword gets redundant.

@@lolidemon3163 Sure, there might be more weapons, but they're rarely required if ever. Plus, you literally said that you can get the best weapons really early. So what's the point of using the weaker weapons if you can use your sword every fight?

@@chaoskiller6084 though the same can be said in oot if u use glitches

@@lolidemon3163 there's a difference between playing optimally and using glitches

Relevant!

+James Third word!!

+James Third Minish Cap is actually my favourite 2d Zelda game. It has great music, awesome items and dungeons, and two really unique and fun mechanic.

PixlYoshi Still, it would have been nice if Nintendo EAD had made the last 2D Zelda, not Capcom. Minish Cap's best music consisted of remixes from other games... (cough AoL Battle theme, cough Falling Rain, cough ahem Underworld bleh cough hack ugh.) Boss design made no sense. The dungeons were okay, and the game didn't control very well imo...

+Zachary Erickson (twilightwindwaker) Yeah, they did, but that isn't saying much when you consider that Nintendo EAD made ALL of the BEST 2d Zeldas, not just SOME of the better 2d ones. LttP, LA, FSA, and of course the original for NES are all better than OoX-MC by most people's standards. Any Zelda is good by default, it's just how good.

Also Ratchet and Clank on the PS4 is a remake of the PS2 game. While the PS3 HD collection are just ports of the original. And let's not forget Resident Evil on the Gamecube.

That's understandable and a respectable opinion.

id say ratchet and clank hd on ps3 are remaster

OXOTNHK d'Distro Remaster is a good word for it too.

ChambleeGames then theres also reimagining like the new ff7 will be

And people still think the arguments in that trash are valid

@@PeruvianPotato there is so much God damn WAITING

Cant disagree with ejoraptior

Yeah he could've laid off the insults but that doesn't invalidate his reasons

@@PeruvianPotato some are but most are just him not giving a shit about the game

Also it added European languages/pal/multi5 (the way you wanna call it) , I'm Italian and i can play it in Italian finally.

Sounds like something to check out.

There s a Remake of Zelda 1, Mario All Stars style.......for the Japan exclusive SNES add on Satellaview.

oscarzx n Yeah. I've seen it. Though, I don't really count that seeing as how it's a Japan exclusive and something that's not even available to them anymore. A world wide release is what I'm looking for.

Whether it was a Japan exclusive or not, it's still an official remake. Although I agree a worldwide release would be nice. Could have a 30th Anniversary remake on Wii u while we wait on Breath of the Wild.

Zelda 1 and 2 on the classic mini are just ports, not remakes.

totally agree 100%

Literally I thought the exact same thing

Yeah, the GBA is where games wanted voice clips like in Black Friday

What GBA game did Kirby have voice clips in?

@@NitroIndigo Nightmare in Dreamland, although they are mild

Super Circuit had a mode where you could to that too

And they moved the Four Swords DSiWare game to 3DS.

I don't think it is available for download anymore, is it? Because I remember getting it when there were only about 3 days for it to be downloaded.

PixlYoshi I thought it was just free for a limited time and then went back to being paid.

I don't think it is available anymore. It was available because Link Between Worlds sold a lot or something.

It's outright unavailable even if you're willing to pay; this means the only way to purchase and play Four Swords is on the gba Which helps my argument the DSiware version isn't canon and the GBA ALttP is more canon than the SNES one

Antnj81 I am surprised you knew what a peninsula is when you were 6. I am 21 and I don't know what a peninsula is.

well if you were italian you would

11clock I think the education system was different when I was younger. The words I didn't understand, I would just ask an adult. Either way, I hate when people say this game is so cryptic that you can't beat it without a guide. How the hell does he think that every kid in the 80s beat this game? We didn't have the internet to run to to tell us how to do it. It was trial and error - those were good times 😎

TvSonic Serbia and I happen to be of Italian decent 😁

@@Antnj81 sorry to break it to you, but trial and error just to procede in a game isn't good game design lol.

Not to mention that there are program errors and design mistakes still present in the game. Ganon is not supposed to be killed without the silver arrows for example. That is a fault in the hit detection.

5 years late but I came here to say the same thing.

I love that game too (DX edition). Bad thing it was in English here in Spain too, so I didn't understand anything as a kid, but I could beat it after some years.

eeeeeeh I don't know. I felt really let down by the "it's all a dream" thing. getting there was great, but the end sort of negates all of it.

Links Awakening is pretty difficult. Definitely harder than A Link to the Past, but nowhere near as difficult as "The Adventures of Link"

JymSwis not really. in the end, there's a possibility that everything in the dream, although a dream, was real. You can see the wind fish flying over you, and MArin as a seagull if you never die. Also, who knows if the dream world inside the wind fish is an universe on itself?

Ed Yo tengo un original de Gameboy, y el DX para VC de 3DS.

Lol. It's pronounced "Haddix" XD

The Side Quest Gamer pls

What channel is haedox not subbed to???

AcePlays He is not subscribed to any channel that loves Splatoon XD

@@SQGReviewShow because no one does love splatoon

+Flame Soulis I guess all the GBA games I've ever wanted to play multiplayer (like this and Nightmare in Dreamland) all required multiple game paks, so I just assumed there was no download play feature. The download play feature wasn't even that great for the DS, so I can't imagine it's better on the GBA. Thanks for the info, though.

Yeah. Without it, the link up feature for Four Sword Adventures wouldn't work so well. The time it took to load the games wasn't too bad either, but then again, it had direct hookup instead of wireless, so that may help.

@@ExoParadigmGamer Ancient comment but F Zero GP Legend also had multi-player with 1 cartridge. Unfortunately it only offered a very basic demo-like version of the game

For full clarity, the GBA had only 256 kilobytes of RAM to work with. DS Download Play had the relative freedom of 4 megabytes (16x the GBA) and it STILL sucked.

Saying Jak 2 is "less than pleasant" is going overboard. It can be a bitch difficulty wise in places (due to the game basically having Checkpoints only at the Start of Missions/Levels) but other than that it's pretty much a 9/10... I'd say 10/10 but that would just be fanboying 🤣

Sort of. You can do 4 before 3 but a lot of the others require special items for access.

Not all of them though, i think just 4 3 and 5.

Not when a stupid small creature takes away double the health than a normal enemy. It's just stupid design.

I LOVE Skyward Sword.

KingEhre, I would like to try out Skyward sword.

ARS SWIM It's totally worth it, trust me.

Skyward Sword is amazing. The designs, the environment, the atmosphere, the soundtrack and even the story are all great! Groose is awesome and the dungeons are really good too.

Me too. :3

All I'm saying is that it was more talking about 3D vs 2D zelda in general It wasnt a "review"

If there’s any proof that egoraptor is light on the raptor and heavy on the ego, it the game grumps playthrough of skyward sword. Hours and hours of Dan begin Arin to stop bitching and actually enjoy the good things about the game, and Arin purposefully refusing to understand that he is using the controller wrong.

I agree. In fact, I am not a fan of the Light World theme. The Dark World theme is arguably the best track in the game.

Also I personally liked that video

Just like how LS Mark talked shit about Game Grumps, EGOraptors fanboys have to blindly defend him to still have the very little credibility

Huh. That's neat.

First graphical adventure. Text based adventures existed on PCs since the late 70s.

Craptastic13 First electronic adventure. There were these games called real adventures since the beginning of Time

Exactly that’s not good design if the game relies so much on trial and error and spending hours at a time bombing random walls until you find something that’s not good design

Colored pencils, graph paper, and cellophane tape, help a lot too! Well, there were also those giudes/books from Nintendo Power, too... XD

@@insertnamehere3271 Bombing random walls is the wrong way to go about finding the secret caves. Best to go about it methodically, and make a map (and write notes) detailing your progress. Same goes for burning trees, pushing tombstones, and using the whistle/flute.

Seymor Onion that doesn’t make it good design

@@insertnamehere3271 If you didn't figure out what all the bombable walls had in common, that's on you, but the game is a classic who's formula is still followed to this day for a reason.

Friendly Metroid True, but at least the game is playable, and you also have many convenient tweaks like breaking pots with your sword and bow, and other things

unlike other ports like Sonic Genesis,screen crunch isn't nearly as much of a issue

+Mandatorial Annoying dungeon design, constant swapping of items for the power bracelet... and that's about it. They have their strengths, to be sure, but those two flaws really drag down the experience for me. Perhaps with another playthrough, that impression could change, but that's where I stand at the moment.

+Ammako I can see why that would be annoying. I think ocarina is a good game, but I don't like how much walking there is from one place to another in hyrule field. I like everything else but that, the waiting thing egoraptor talks about, and navi. Other than that I would say that ocarina is tied for my favorite 3d zelda game with windwaker (although I have not played twilight princess).

It sucked there, too, but at least that's only for one dungeon.

Since LTTP and Link's Awakening were my introductions to the Zelda franchise, the item swapping thing doesn't bother me at all. I've always considered it a core staple of the series and just something to expect when playing a Zelda game. As a result it doesn't bug me at all and makes the GBC games among my favorites in the series, along with LTTP and LBW. Now that I think of it, that's probably just one more reason BOTW is the one 3D Zelda I like. Its design choices harken a lot more to the 2D games than to OOT, MM, WW, TP, or SS.

@@ExoParadigmGamer All Zeldas have item swapping.

?

Damn right. Love all three of them.

I think his problem with them relate to the heavy amount of button mapping for items due to the GB having less buttons.

I absolutely love the Oracles games

YES They're way better than A Link to The Past will ever be, for me at least

winnetouch you drop a block from the room above to trigger the switch. Don’t need the cane. Honestly didn’t know anyone used the cane on it. Lol

Lol, the can of Somalia, well it is a shit hole I suppose.

Yes you can do it without the cane, but it's a massive pain. There's a a push block in the room above that can be pushed into a hole which you can then jump down, and from there you can push the block onto the switch. However, block you need to push is blocked by those orange peg barriers, so you need to flip the switch that lowers them, which in the process raises the blue ones that block off the half of the room with the block you need to push. You get around this by coming into the room from the other side (there's an entrance for each side of the room) which requires you to circle around nearly the entire dungeon to reach. Since You don't even need to enter the ice palace and get the dungeon item (it's the blue armor) to complete misery mire, it's much less of a hassle to just head straight for misery mire after thieves town and come back with the cane. Also I completely agree about Link's Awakening and the Oracle games. Those were great. I only played the Oracle games when they released on the virtual console, but I must of completed Link's Awakening 20 as a kid.

@@Clusters3rdStrikeArc you ever been James, or are you just spouting ignorant bullshit?

This is y I don’t like da ice palace

He literally says at the end that he and the king were revived with link's wish to the triforce

+AcePlays superstar Ultra to me & Antdude is a replace.

Jenni Locke I remember when lady gaga was considered a good artist

Links awakening is a sequel to a link to the past

Its obvious is getting a remake score

Peruvian Potato replace

Or a replace

it is a diffrent game than the original, but even then there is no real reason to play metroid1 anymore

It's a clear re-break, but this zoomer low IQ fakkot would obviously give it a 'replace'

pretty good video btw

You're an utter faccot

Danintendo yh but PSP version is better thou

star man It’s also on PS3 and PSVita.

@@starman5901 The PSP version is dogshit compared to the GBA remakes

Peruvian Potato haha nice one troll

FreshBeats not on ps3 and don't know about the vita because it's shit and I couldn't care less about that over rated system

no....Zelda 1 was 8 bit shit....

Dem Blue Darknuts Tho. Dungeon 5 = Rage Quit.

Well for its time it was amazing. There hadn't been anything like it to ever show up and the open-ended nature of it was done because of technical limitations as well as to give the player the feeling that they themselves are Link and they are really in this giant quest. It's up to you to figure everything out with no hand-holding happening. All that said though it's still a deeply flawed game and far from perfect.

That's why I hate Super Metriod. The hidden spots in the game are bullshit with nothing to differentiate from normal spots.

trip2themoon meh, it was a different time. People drew their own maps and shit as they figured stuff out. And Nintendo power. I can say I loved the original as a kid.

Gharaham no, it was not

The changes to the save system, the sidequest system, the boss battles, item locations and Zora swim controls were enough to make the 3DS version less enjoyable for some.

It's all about the Zora swimming. I was so disappointed they changed the swimming. It was one of my favorite parts of the game.

Roo Some people havent played it

Mini-E True, there is no way that you can finish every game that was made between 1990 and the late 2000s, so there sould be spoiler alerts for games and movies no matter how old they are since you haven't finished them all. Saying that something isn't a spoiler or that it's ok to spoil because it's old is absolutely idiotic.

Sorry not everyone can play anything that's any old!

I have yet to play it.

SliceGames I have not played it. So far, I played the wind waker HD, and the minish cap. Edit: now I played "a link to the past" (albeit being the gba version.)