Rosanna Pansino DELETES ALL EVIDENCE against Mr Beast... 

mr beast gives me ellen vibes if that makes sense? pretends to be a charitable and charismatic individual but in reality is neither of those things? idk

Also masses of fans telling a woman to calm down and minimizing her experience doesn’t sit right with me… it just plays into a hostile environment for women to be heard and taken seriously

All the backlash and death threats are so uncalled for... She literally just was talking about her experience. Could this have been private, sure, but the video was public and she's not the only one who talked about it.

People are saying "If it's for charity, why does it matter"? Well, by that logic he could've been honest, and the money would STILL go to charity. Also, good/charitable ppl CAN do bad/dishonest things. People make ANY excuse to defend him smh. Donating to charity DOESN'T make you, "immune" to criticism.🤦🏼‍♂

Maybe it’s just because I already dislike Mr Beast, but I feel like Rosanna is totally in the right. Mr Beast didn’t even give her the courtesy of letting her know before the video came out that she was edited out of the top three. Why is it all on her to be polite and keep this private, especially when the Mr Beast team won’t put anything in writing?

This sets a pretty scary precedent that no one can speak even slightly ill of mr. Beast- regardless of how true

I think that repeatedly just saying "there are bigger problems" is very ungenuine of people. Yes, there are always horrible awful things going on in the world, but we can still be upset about things that hurt us. There is also a scary trend of never criticizing people who have lots of money and donate portions of that to charity. What would be the thing "bad enough" to hold him accountable, or does every moral have a price?

mr beast potentially having a nasty spirit doesn’t surprise me, it’s always the ppl that center their brands around being the nicest ppl ever that end up being nasty(ie lizzo and ellen), mr beast has basically made it impossible to criticize him in any capacity no matter how innocuous it is

If even big youtubers like Rosanna and Jacksepticeye can't say something slightly critical about Mr. Beast, what does that say for the rest of us/anyone? There's a power dynamic issue in all these stories about Mr. Beast (from the cake girl to all the other youtubers). He is the biggest youtuber, and he has the biggest platform. He is also generally promising people some kind of financial compensation beyond just that exposure, so he has all the power in these relationships. Should we maybe be concerned that one guy essentially is RU-vid? Also, literally all Mr. Beast had to do to not be shitty was either 1. present events as they actually occurred or 2. Tell Ro and Quackity privately like a man "hey, we edited it that way because Logan and Larray are more entertaining/more popular." Or contractual obligations or whatever it was. That's not hard. That's professional ethics. If you had a coworker who did stuff like steal your ideas and take credit without naming you or edit your name out of your work without explaining it to you, you would be mad at that coworker. And that's essentially what he did to Ro and Quackity. And if he acts this way for a game for charity, how does he act behind the scenes about bigger stuff?

She seems like such a kind soul I hope she’s doing alright!

To me this is scary; it’s just too much power. Now we know that if Mr. Beast does something really bad he 1. Will stay silent 2. Let his followers bully any accusers until they go away. Yikes

I think if you've spent your life not being taken seriously, especially by men, then yes it is that serious. If you're the only woman to make it to the top 3 and you get shoved out in editing and replaced by logan paul of all people, then yeah it would be serious and would definitely make you think mr beast had a narrative he wanted to tell and it would be super hurtful and not ok. Everyone saying "it's just a game, it's not that serious, stop tweeting" just don't seem to get it. You can't dictate how seriously someone takes a situation or how personally hurt they are by it. It seems it was very important to Ro and to Jimmy it's just one video in a sea of content that he can't even remember and has no time or inclination to rectify it or find the footage. Even that in itself is quite hurtful. I don't bkame her for going on about it and I find it sad she was forced to apologise from receiving threats and being told she's just being daft.

Honestly, i think what people keep missing is that Rosanna is feeling very under valued by other creators. I don't think this was the first time nor was it the last, and she had a breaking point. I don't know if any of this was intention on Mr Beast's half purely because he was ignorant to her feelings and how it would feel to be a women excluded from things, even if she wasn't the only one edited out. I wish people didn't send her death threats because feeling that way is genuine and people saying horrible things just makes it worse.

im afraid this is a situation of woman going against powerful man and she will inevitably lose bc "woman are dramatic" and all that other bullshit even though she is 100% correct

I dont think its a minor thing. Changing winners is crappy but replacing the woman with a guy is even worse.

If you're gonna make these people stay awake for over 24 hours for a video, the bare mimimum is keeping it real and showing how it really went for everyone. If the results are gonna be changed for the final cut then what's the point of even making them try their best like

I personally think Rosanna is 1000% in the right, I get their may be bigger issues happening and that Mr beast donates a lot of money and helps a lot of people but it's still unfair. It's something she's genuinely hurt by and to be met with death threats from that is insane. In my eyes Mr beast has gotten away with this type of thing for so long, someone shouldn't be automatically forgiven because they are filthy rich, money and "generosity" is no excuse to use people and lie about the truth. don't think Rosanna was overdramatic at all and I'm honestly sad for her that between Mr beasts reaction and the intense hate she has been forced back into a corner of not defending herself, it's sad

Not gonna lie I've never been a fan of Mr. Beast. Idk if it's because his content just isn't aimed towards my demographic but he just rubs me the wrong way and has always seemed fake

Did the enormous, massively popular MrBeast REALLY have to doctor the results of a charity competition to get a few more views? Having a woman in the top 3 isn't going to destroy your reputation. Also it's frustrating to me when someone makes an allegation and all the responses are like "Proof?" "Receipts?" - but when they actually provide message receipts, they get attacked for making everything public

If Mr Beast was simply trying to figure it out, he would have had the decency to let her know instead of ghosting her.

I don't mean to be that person ,but let's say instead of Rosanna being edited out it was Logan Paul? Would it be a big deal then? Because I know for a fact with how the internet behaves it would probably be a big enough deal to stir some to trouble especially within the fandoms. So the fact that Rosanna had to freaking apologize for this when all ,I think, she wanted was to be done right by especially by someone who claims to be genuine with the content he produce is so sad and really kinda proves her point that women are lesser than in his standard of content Now I don't think every single video of his has edited out the women in it ,but I do find it weird that most of the time his final lineup is majority men. I think this situation is something we're probably going to revisit in the future. Mr Beast just gives me an overall ick so maybe my thoughts on this are a bit biased.

I always think about this quote I heard on Social Media (maybe Tumblr?) "Just because someone is a philanthropist, doesn't mean they're a good person." Just because he gives away lots of money to people and friends, doesn't mean he's a good person himself. Another quote comes to mind. "If you have to keep telling people you're a good person, you're probably not a good person." The bilnd faith for this person just because he gives away money, gives me the ick. Philanthropy is when someone gives away money, usually to charity.

I mean... Mr. Beast i think is David Dobrik 2.0 People would talk about the shady things he does but the internet will ignore it until something really serious happens because "he donates so much money!!" "charityyyy!!" Which to me sounds a lot to "but David Dobrik gifts caaars!!" PS: just because you follow a guy that gives money and helps people, it doesn't mean you are one. That's not how it works. His merits are not yours, because i think that's also why people love to believe he's Jesus or something that came back to earth 🤣 7:25 i think that was what Jacksepticeye was talking about when he said he didn't like him. To me Mr. Beast just throws money which i think works really well on the USA. Out of it... I don't really know... I mean... If i was a fan of that guy and had a well functional brain, i would question every single video he's ever done, because he's supposed to be "real and genuine", for me that would be a better message to put out there, not if you win or not. I hope she doesn't ends up like Tati, were even after everything she said about JC people still treat her as a "crazy old lady" even thou she was pretty right... (I don't know if i will edit this comment to comment more on the video or if i will leave a ton of comments as usual 🤣)

Why can't women share there feelings about something without being called over dramatic? If any male creator sais the same things people would be running to support them.

You can argue the sustenance of those argument I agree it's a bit wishy-washy but it just draws to attention the fact that Jimmy definitely has a misogyny problem and all the men in the comments prove it every time they say something about her well into terms of like the comments I've seen

All Ro wants is the truth. An explanation of why they video was edited to make her and Quakity look bad (likely unintentionally cause they were more focused on makeing the 3 "winners" look good and not necessarily to make Ro and quack look bad). I would be beyond frustrated if i was trying to get an explaination and the person kept dancing around it. I also agree that Mr. Beast always gave off weird fake vibes to me. I dont watch ro or jimmy but ro definitely always felt more genuine then jimmy ever did

I think it's more than just she got edited out as a woman doing well in a competition, which definitely sucks too. But she was also representing a charity she cared about and that also means the charity got less awareness from it all, whether they ended up winning or not. Same with quackity's charity too.

I get people think she made too big a deal out of it, but I do not understand at all why she apologized to jimmy when she took it all down. Like i can’t wrap my mind around it. Maybe because it didn’t seem like her speaking out did any real damage to him? Idk

Editing out the only woman and also the one hispanic creator from the top 3 so it's only white guys seems kinda sus to me....

Ngl I don't blame her with all the backlash she's been getting from men & women alike over it, I do the exact same if I was being called a clout chaser & that I was doing it for attention

I feel bad for Rosanna, it's not the biggest deal in the world, but it hurt her and she deserves to tell her truth and I feel bad for her now because I would feel the same in this situation, anxiety would eat me up, but it doesn't mean she's in the wrong. Mr Beast on the other hand, I know almost to nothing about him, but it sounds like manipulating in this and cake case 👀

Death threats?? The internet always takes things too far. I don’t watch either one of those creators but his fans sending all that hate to her is a big yikes!

I feel like if you've watched his videos you can see that he prioritizes men like a lot and while I dont think he hates women or anything I def think he has some biases and doesnt want to acknowledge that.

Yeah "but he gives away a lot of money" is a very icky response to people sharing negative experiences. Even if it's minor.

I don’t think it’s that deep but I also don’t think Rosanna was the one who “made it that deep” Mr.Beast’s obfuscation and refusal to answer in writing was a pretty clear signal that he was taking this much more seriously than her initial statement made it seem like she was. If Mr.Beast had just apologized and moved on this is the kind of mistake he could blow of as poor judgment but ultimately harmless and still had a solid relationship with the creators affected. His cagey behavior and his fan bases response with death threats and the like make it a much more serious matter than it should have been. Honestly his response makes me think it might be a much more common issue in his videos that he’s aware could seriously impact his brand.

Mr Beast skeeves me out. I get the feeling he hides behind his "philanthropy", but he's a gross person. I've never liked him. I've never watched Rosanna, but I believe her more. Also, judging by her last tweet, it probably wasn't just death threats that made her apologize. He threatened her. That's pretty obvious.

Yes! I was waiting for you to explain what was going on! Thank you!

there is a huge power imbalance and i truly hope there arent worse things happening in the bg that nobody sees just bc people cant even accept a simple situation like this and blame rosanna for it . if he didnt rig the competition then she woulnt have spoken abt it. so how abt treating ppl fairly he should try it out

She made it clear. It's about how he claims to be a real and honest youtuber and in her and other creators experience he isn't. He is also has a trend to be very different between men and women. I thought it was really weird how he spoke about women he was looking at dating before meeting his now girlfriend. Like if all women are just dumb and useless but he found a real gem with his girlfriend. Like a whole test they gotta go through? Idk man it seem more extreme than normal.

Its really sad that only female creators seem to be supporting her...

Funny how the first thing that came to my mind was that she probably got threatened with lawyers 🤔

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Not done with the video yet, but is Mr Beast not going to speak out against his fans giving death threats? Just make it seems like he'd rather not step up and discourage that behavior because then he'd have to speak on the topic. These actions speak to his character to me.

He’s been super shady in every way possible and people still wanna think he’s a saint and attack a woman that beat a bunch of men. Heck beating Logan Paul is awesome for her. He always wants to come across as a tough guy and was beaten by a woman and Mr Beast took that from her. Smh. Not wanting anything to be done in writing shows how manipulative he was trying to be.

It IS serious. It sounds potentially legally fraudulent. I don’t know if the rules were in writing, but players may have potentially entered a legal verbal contract that was violated. A million dollars even if it’s “just” for charity is a huge amount of money. I am also huge on fairness, and this would drive me BONKERS if I were in her shoes. I like Mr. Beast, and I wish he would explain, good or bad. I feel like Rosanna, the other creators, and the audience deserve an explanation.

its always interesting when people are like "its not that deep" when someone is calling something out - like i feel like when people say that they are purposely missing the point. Like its the deception, "subtle" sexism, and shady behavior. Those things are important to pay attention to

I understand Rosanna. To put it in perspective, it’s like winning 2nd place in a school event then finding out that the teacher actually demoted you to 4th because he didn’t like you enough. It’s messed up and will certainly make you feel a certain way. Also Mrbeast might not be as entertaining anymore knowing that his stuff are fake.

yeah, I'm on her side and the online reaction is so disheartening. some people are being awful. Ive seen more men than I care for just pretty much tell her to shut up and get over it cause it doesn't actually matter. Calling her childish for caring about "just a game of hide and seek" especially because of her age. Like anyone should be upset if you think the game is fair and then find out its not fair at all. That people who lost and were disqualified BY THE RULES, get to beat you just because they have more followers, clout or worse because they were men..etc.(Q should have been one, and She should have been second.) I think that the boys club was more than just in that video, but among the fan base and men online and you can see it happening in real time.. They have already bullied her into silence and apologizing. Also sent death threats against her.

I find it astounding that every RU-vid commentator that talks about mr beast beats around the bush and say stuff like "well he still gives away lots of money" "he helps people" "he's generally unproblematic" Like CMON he's been called out for ages and people let him get away with shit just because he's rich and helps afew people, which he still benefits from. It's sickening and I'm tired of it

I love when people point out that "it's okey" or "It's not a big deal" because he's known to lie and manipulate his videos for money and views as if that is okey. And it just gives me the ick that they'd even go as far to almost say that it's Rosanna's fault for not knowing that? Like sorry? Maybe if you collaborate with someone about anything at all, maybe you tell them what it's about and how it works? Instead of just assuming that they know you're a stupid, lying piece of sh*t? Some commentary channel is actually defending him which is insane. These people's take is liteally just, "she's so weird for even talking about her own experience that she clearly was upset about and felt insulted about, even when what MrBeast did is very bad. It's not a big deal TO ME, so why is she making it a big deal?" Like, my man, do you hear yourself right now? I swear I just watched these people talk about similar situations before. I guess the same rule doesn't apply to MrBeast because "he does charity". Sorry to tell you this, bud, but giving away money so you could GAIN MORE money don't make you a good person. And just because he's "honest" about only wanting money and views don't make it okey either. If I'm a theif and I tell everyone which neighborhood I'm robb*ng next as a heads up except the person I'm robb*ng, that still makes me a very ev*l person and I still deserve to go to jail. It doesn't matter if I did it for "charity". My honesty don't make it "okey" or "not a big deal", in fact it's the other way around. It's even more concerning that I'm so nonchalant about it. Hearing commentary channels talk about this as if his actions were acceptable made me so confuse. I do agree that this isn't a racist or a sexist thing. Quackity was edited out too and he's a man and a person of color. But it's for sure disrespectful and shows just how much he actually "cares" about other people. If he can do this to someone like Rosanna Pansino, who knows what he'd done to other contestants in his other videos that were just ordinary people for the "sake of money and views"? And also, the way they defend him because "he doesn't edit his video. He has hundreds of people in his team" like come on, are we really going to pretend he doesn't know and he doesn't approve any of this? And the way they use the "Quackity didn't complain. He was just telling a story" line is so hilarious to me. Of course he wouldn't say it in a way that sounds like complaining. He doesn't wanna get dragged by MrBeast's fans. MrBeast is way bigger than him. Seeing how he's talked about it a couple times, sure he wasn't complaining, but he was upset about it. Let's be for real. I didn't even know about the toilet cake. Damn. Dude only calls and apologize when he's called out. How about apologizing the moment you stepped on someone? Or actually, better idea, how about not stepping on someone at all?

i rly truly dislike mr beast with my entire heart

No offense, but what possible reason could there be to "figure out" his own video footage and editing? Especiallly on a production he was there for? Genuinely interested, not trying to be rude.

I think what Mr. Beast did was not very honest of him and shows that his videos are fake, but I also hate when people throw the sexism card when males were also affected. Like if Rosanna and all the other female creators where cut out early than sure, but Quackity was edit out too and he is a male. Also saying, "this is causing mental stress" is a joke. She is so out of touch with reality. Being a millionaire and saying that being edit out of a 3 year old RU-vid video caused you mental stress while their are children crying when planes fly over their house in Gaza. I was orginally not Team Mr. Beast or Team Rosanna, but after that "mental stress" comment from Rosanna, I am team Mr Beast.

Maybe it’s because she wasn’t “entertaining” (in their opinion) or known as much by his audience. I don’t know who she is, but it might not be as deep as it seems. I do agree its a boys club though. And he might’ve not given it/her as much importance.

I genuinely don’t believe Mr Beast has a valid reason for this and I feel like him saying he doesn’t remember is a cop out. I also think his reluctance to give any statements in writing is a calculated strategy. Does he deserve to be cancelled? No, probably not. But he should lose some respect as he really hasn’t handled this situation properly imo, and I don’t blame Ro for continuing to bring it up.

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I am a 27 year old female. I just genuinely dont understand why people are saying this is a gender issue. Its fair to say that he is a liar but not a misogynistic liar. To make the accusation that Jimmy is misogynistic because he didn't place Ro in her rightful place is wrong to say if another male creator also wasnt acknowledged in the top 3. And there are other femlaes that he has or I believe have won. Even with the female cake maker that wasn't hired he still hired another female cake maker (which i do still think it was wrong though). I think its not fair for Ro and Quackity not to be credited properly but I cannot stand people making this about gender cause I'm sorry it just isn't. If Quackity, Zach and Larray were the only people listed in the top 3, then yes it is. I cannot stand people accusing others of misogyny or sexism when its not there because misuse will lose the meaning of the word. I also do believe it should have just been handled privately, posting their dms started going too far if Jimmy was trying to work things out and she also did tell him she would wait but continued to post things and doubled down in this misogynistic accusation on H3H3 podcast even though she brought up Quackity. That was wrong. Of course she doesnt deserve death threats but i can see why people were frustrated. Someone also brought up that this could have also been a youtube decision since it was their event and maybe Jimmy couldnt say anything due to the NDA. Idk that could be true but who knows really.

The absolute least they could have done was I told her in the moment so she didn’t have to hide for hours for absolutely no reason. I assume this was all decided and planned in advance. I wonder if Logan said he’d only participate if he can be in the top 3

It's nice that he allows his fans to just bully other creators :) Also, I hate this idea that just because something bigger is happening suddenly all the other things don't matter.

It feels like you can't even critique Mr Beast without getting death threats and people not taking you seriously. I think Rosanna raises some valid concerns about the integreity of his content, and from what she's done in the past, I highly doubt that she had ulterior motives.

I think privilege from men will not allow them to see why it was incorrect to discredit and try to silence a woman creator, and why it IS a big deal that Mr. Beast runs his business as a boys club. And there is privilege from white creators that do not understand why it IS a big deal for quackity, a youtuber that happens to be not white, to have been discredited and been replaced with a white creator. Personally, I think this speaks volumes about his character, and the fact that there are more creators with stories they have keep quiet out of fear of getting hate is quite concerning. Also, multiple people have made RU-vid a legitimate career. People before him paved the way for current creators to have the ability to have this as a career.

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I can totally see why someone with such a huge platform who's never in drama would respond the way that she did. By the nature of who these people are, there are going to be millions of eyes on the situation. It's beyond understandable how that can be overwhelming and could cause someone to be completely consumed by the situation for a period of time.

WAAAAITTT what happened between Jackie and Mr Beast?! Since she supposedly called it out back then?

Dude literally EVERY TIME a woman speaks out about ANYTHING people shit on them for "talking about it too much" "it's not that serious" we all know damn well if loagn was saying this stuff or some other male creator was everyone would be pissed and canceling Mr beast or it'd be a huge drama

I think that its got more to do with his viewers, like they would rather watch a video with logan paul, larray, zach king, than rosanna and quackity…. i dont think its any deeper i think he would have just made more money with them

Giving money to charity doesn't make you a good person automatically and some of his fans need to understand that. His actions over and over show its more about popularity and flashy videos rather then making difference

I think Ro pointed out herself that if she was weirdly edited out of the video that's just for charity and no one wins then like... What else is Jimmy misrepresenting? I don't really like Mr Beast I feel like he's commercialised youtube and I kind of hate the way it's turned the platform into purely a money making thing with the only important thing being how many views can you get. However, I don't exactly hate him either, he's just like- a guy doing making content I don't like and donating money to charity. But even so I get a weird vibe from him. Maybe it really IS my sexism/misogyny senses going off becuase I am pretty hyper aware of that- but it's just..... It's weird to misrepresent Ro and Quackity in the video. I'll also point out that the cake creator might have been reimbursed by Jimmy on that last phone call which was enough to clear up that situation, but Ro has pleanty of money so Jimmy can't buy her silence. I totally sympathise with Ro because like ????? WHY. What was the reason they didn't want a woman in the top three?? I just don't like it, it's giving me the ick- actually Jimmy himself kinda gives like Incel Tech Bro vibes come to think of it...... I think Ro is in the right, Jimmy made a mistake, and I really want to know WHY jimmy made that mistake becuase if other female creators experienced it like Ro explained then..... Jimmy could be guilty of doing sexist things

If she didn't get all that clarification, people would allow Mr Beast to stay silent and allow his narrative of events, and they would criticize her for having no proof. She is trying to get that proof, he won't let her. I don't understand how anyone thinks she is the bad guy here. I mean, I actually do, people just hate dissenting women, but... be less obvious about it.

He 100% edited the video to put bigger names in the top 3 for viewer suspense, but if you're gonna fake shit be honest with your actors beforehand.

People are acting like Ro was making a big deal out of it by talking abt the potential backlash as if "she was accusing him of a crime" and then she proceeded to be bombarded with death threats, like, bro? Hello? Also I really HATE how his fanbase acts like just because Mr Beast does charity he's excempt of all criticism, like, a lot of actually likeable youtubers do charity a lot of the time, people only like Mr Beast this much because he makes clickable, exploitable content out of it, I also think it's really creepy how he hounded Ro about wanting to call her and Discuss things, when she was clearly not comfortable with that, and he does that with any creator that criticises him, it's giving onision yelling at people to debate him tbh, super creepy

I just don’t get why he’d edit it to change the top 3? Gender motivation is the only thing that makes sense. Can he just come out and clarify?.. I feel bad for Cinnamon Ro

Ooooooh I literally only just heard abt this drama and now this…? 👀

This is getting spicy!!

I think there's an issue in this whole situation where there is a lack of compartmentalization in the nuance here. It's not a "this OR that" discussion. I believe it can be separated into 2 general points: "The effect on the general public" and "The personal effect, that may or may not be relevant to others". The public point is pretty simple: if you advertise your brand as "real and authentic content", if someone is able to prove that this is not accurate, there needs to be accountability and consequences. Even more so considering how much money is a part of that process. The personal side is to her experience, and that will always be judged by each individual. It may just be her unique experience (although if other people are reaching out and validating that with their experiences, then it's not unique, but rather a pattern). People will disagree on the personal side, because this is the internet. However, that does not diminish the actual dishonest behaviour that affected multiple people. Even if Jimmy himself had no direct influence on how rhe video was edited, he and his team are a brand. And the brand is being proved to be dishonest. That is something the audience needs to take seriously, because if the line is allowed to be blurry, things can easily escalate. Regardless of how much you love a creator/youtuber/influencer, blind following without accountability is dangerous.

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I genuinely think mr beast is probably buddies with Logan and wanted to help him feel good about himself. Poor Ro

We could argue good or bad or meaningless until we're blue in the face. But can we agree it's weird that he edited it to entirely change the game?

it means Mr. Beast got to manipulate what charity gets the money, so at the end of the day, it wasn't a competition for charity as he already knew who he was picking to win

i dont like mr beast but i watched dustin daileys video today and they were talking about she has no problem calling out mr beast but she wont call out any of the problematic people that shes friends with like colleen

I can understands Ro's frustration when it's life changing money for her community/charity. She even states it doesn't have to be her's but Quackity. He had made someone number one and that community/charity, when it could have been to a different one.

its such a weird situation all around, like no matter who was placed in third or second, zach would have still won, there was no reason to lie about it. And even Zach broke thr contract by hiding in a really difficult spot when he wasn't even supposed to? So really, quackity won imo. I just think that if he could easily lie about this, what else he lies about? Just bc someone is charitable, doesn't give them immunity from criticism.

One thing that gets me is as a “business person” when someone insists on a phone call it’s understandable. Ask that it be a recorded conversation.

...so h3 podcast just mentioned that they've been getting multiple tips about how mrbeast fakes editing and videos after Rosanna Pansino's interview...

I think Rosanna should’ve just called to talk with MrBeast instead of trying to talk through dm. It’s obvious that Mr. Beast wanted to speak directly with her on the phone, but Rosanna didn’t seem receptive to it for some reason and just started going off on MrBeast via DMs. I don’t think either person was terribly wrong but I think they should’ve just spoken on the phone since it’s hard to have a conversation through text

The music video was a tribute to her late father, I certainly don't think it was a marketing/money thing. I think its commendable for her to speak up about the injustice of the game and being ignored or made to look bad for having to continuously bring it up in order to try and have the issue addressed/resolved.

It rubs me the wrong way that he’s like “oh it was a long time ago” and “let’s have a call so we can figure this out.” Like, you cannot convince me that he wouldn’t remember who literally placed and wouldn’t remember editing whole sections drastically to alter the rankings. It just makes no sense. He also literally has access to the raw footage. It would’ve been clear and if he’d had evidence to the contrary you best believe he would’ve shown it. I’ve seen before too the phone call tactic and what I also think is missing from discussions surrounding the phone call business tactic is that often times people are more conciliatory over the phone and without having the opportunity to read carefully or think things through, people can sometimes agree to things or forgive things they wouldn’t have if the person on the phone weren’t so charming and gaslight-y. Just my two cents but this whole thing sounds fishy and it makes me question the amount of power Mr. Beast has. The power dynamics issue fosters and protects abuses and misdeeds so often. Like he’s “generally unproblematic” but is that because he actually is or because of that power dynamic?

regarding how serious is seemed vs how serious it was - when i first saw the original post without reading it, I thought he had SAed her

Literally I went from feeling meh about Mr. Beast to straight up not liking him after his initial response to the Jack thing. Like they made up sure, but his initial response just made him sound like a dick? A child? it rubbed me the wrong way and this is just the nail in the coffin for me :///

I'm more surprised that this hasn't happened sooner. I always had a weird feeling about Mr. Beast.

She said it was a 23 hour day. I would be upset too. She did a long day and gave her all to his video and he just cuts her accomplishment out? Also just why? It’s so stupid and selfish of him.

Everyone saying oh well it’s not sexist because Logan Paul is just more popular then her. What about the fact that it’s for charity? I didn’t know that winning a charity competition only matters or is valid if you have enough subscribers….? Thats fucked up

I think Jackie from NerdeCrafter made an extremely valid point people are not talking about enough. Mr. Beast's channel IS a total boys club. It's why his friend Chris got so much backlash when he was coming out as trans. I'm not saying the Mr Beast is purposely excluding women. I think it's more subconscious than anything. But it does say a lot that he has negative experiences with multiple women creators and that there are more men than women in his videos and I feel this NEEDS to be discussed further.

the issue is Logan Paul fans are also Mr Beast fans so the more Logan Paul in his video, the more viewers/the logner they watch

I think what Rosanna said was true and she was genuinely hurt. But I think her timing of calling it out was interesting….

His videos started giving me sexist vibes a long time ago and I also think he does this because of his young male viewership

The issue I have is the part where he tried to convince her to quit the game. If charity is the top priority, why would you try to bribe someone to quit competing for the organization they’re donating to??? I mean at least his method of clout-chasing doesn’t involve “pranking” strangers and exploiting children, but I do wonder just how many times he’s done something like this. The editing thing was very inconsiderate… but trying to take away an organization’s chance of receiving $1,000,000 just for your viewer retention is downright wrong.

this is why people doesn’t speak up