Rose Garden Tour | Penelope Lively Rose | 2nd Flush | English Rose Garden

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An evening walk around my garden. Some highs and lows with the roses this year. A challenging year weather wise and some self inflicted wounds. My early impressions of rose Penelope Lively, a lovely rose I’m very happy with and I film for some time to let you make your own minds up.
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@Ronniroses Год назад

She’s a lovely rose jay. Enjoy. What a treat to see Donna, You’re slowly taking away her bit of garden……. Naughty! 🥰 xxx

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Yes a lovely rose indeed and as importantly I think one that is just a little different. No don’t say that ronni your on my side :) 😂😂😂😂

@debbiewilson6527 Год назад

Your wife is precious. Glad to meet her.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi Debbie and thank you. Yes she is I’ll tell her so right now infact.

@kimfox5186 Год назад

Hi Jay Jay. I mulched with well rotted horse manure and compost in the spring and quite honestly, if I added fertiliser now ,I think they'd leave their beds and do a dance 😅. I planted them last autumn, well, mme Alfred Carrière has reached the top of the arch, plus flowers, and Lady of Shalot is blooming and reaching for the sky. Incredible. Many thanks for sharing 🙋‍♀️

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi Kim. Glad to hear your roses are doing well. My Madame Alfred Carriere is still in flower now just about. The first flush was lovely and since then it’s continued its growth but with just an odd flower here and there not so much a second flush as such. Height or spread wise it sounds like yours has done better than mine, but mine is still a rose I’m very happy with indeed. It will go front of house next year when more established and snow princess will come out. :)

@sreykimsear Год назад

Her color is so vivid

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Thank you. I think this is one of her finest qualities. Seeing those different shades of pink as the flowers open to age all on the same bush. Looking from a window it’s gorgeous I have to say.

@Lucysroses Год назад

Hi Donna ! Well I think the rose can go there and be surrounded by her flowers but not my garden. It’s still lovely where it is. Ripping up the patio???? I need to see this! I think it will be gorgeous! No feed? That’s preposterous. Would u like to not eat for a year? lol Donna!!! Your food bill is about to come down. More money for dahlias lol 😂 😅😢😂

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Thanks Lucy I will tell her it can go there with your permission :)

@bloombaag Год назад

Great to see you to walk on uncharted or less traveled path. We will learn few things from your experience.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi Rakesh, I wouldn’t be surprised if most roses in the world go unfed so not sure it’s less traveled, but I’m giving it a go. I honestly think at this point at least my soil is just not so good. If I keep putting mulch down each year I’m sure it will improve over time. And the weather this year making things even more difficult to gauge, one or two roses doing better than last year it does get very confusing. But I’ll crack on the year is not over yet hopefully by a long way ;)

@bloombaag Год назад

@@Jay_Jay Mulching and feeding for initial 2-3 years with beneficial fungi/ bacteria will help the plants to establish well and gain enough strength to thrive on their own. I have seen even younger ones 4-5 years old own root roses doing fine with practically no feeding. Choice of particular rootstock will behave differently with no feed or hot weather situation. Keep exploring mate, soon you will hit sweet spot to balance things.

@nikkonch Год назад

I don't know if you can blame a poor showing now on lack of feeding. I fed all my roses and apart from Gabriel and Eustacia, which are still just about hanging on, my other DA roses are all rather bloom-free - last year I was amazed by Desdemona's flower size, shape and their profusion - this year she is looking unimpressive on all those counts, virtually bare at the moment, just like Lady Of Shalott, Tranquillity, my Princesses Anne and Alexandra, Emily Bronte, Poet's Wife, Queen of Sweden and Ancient Mariner. Luckily I have quite a few HTs and floribundas which are putting on a great show, not suffering too much from the heavy rain and dull skies. I think it must be the weather this year causing this lack of flowers. But I think all the experts say roses are greedy, so I would take their advice too. Your Amadeus is looking spectacular - I would be tempted if I had a suitable wall. Yes, Ab Fab /Julia Child is a lovely rose, as I am discovering. Penelope Lively - now that the initial enthusiasm/hysteria about a new rose is dying down, we are starting to be more sober and thoughtful in our judgement - it's still early days, but I am not convinced that it's going to be a classic. I've been hearing/reading good things about Chandos Beauty - any thoughts? I seem to remember you had/have one? I am hoping that the weather and our roses will perk up soon. Otherwise I'll have to invest in more dahlias!

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Haha that made me laugh out loud at the end of your comment. Yeah the flowering situation is the strangest thing I’m not entirely convinced myself. That front lane has never looked so bare of roses that sadly is a fact. Going from first flush to second there is usually a good turnover with colour. I think perhaps many of the flowers just didn’t last as long and got cut away. And this may well be the case elsewhere in the garden. The odd thing is some of my potted roses that were eventually fed, look to be budding better and quicker for second flush than last year. But some of my roses just aren’t budding as Much or at all compared to last year around this time. So it’s confusing and I can’t work it out. But I do suspect the weather has played a part this year. Princess Ann a new rose and in the ground, poets wife again, there has been no sign of new growth at all. I’m surprised by this.

@hungariancottageadventure77 Год назад

Hi there great tour, you're brave to experiment and see what works, Carolyn Knight is lovely, is that a DA. lol hands of the Dahlias...blimin cheek, I'm with Mrs JJ on that one!

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi potager. Yeah Carolyn knight is a da. I saw it at David Austin’s last year and was fantastic. My favourite rose on the day so bought it. It’s flowers very fragile though so far. No don’t side with mrs Jayjay. Me and you we go back, your meant to be on my side 😂😂😂

@hungariancottageadventure77 Год назад

@@Jay_Jay oh yes I remember you went there last year...sorry JJ you cant mess with them there dahlias!!

@wendybartlett6717 Год назад

I honestly think the weather has had a huge part to play with our roses this year. I've fed mine and they're not as good as last years apart from a few that have done really well. Darren Harwood did a video ages ago from his friend's garden and she's almost ninety and has never fed her roses which made me think why do I bother! Donna is so funny and I have to say her patch is looking fab. Hope the rabbits don't get your new shoots. It's bloody squirrels here but I suppose I'm not helping by putting out food for the birds.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi Wendy yes you could well be right. It really is an odd year weather wise. Challenging conditions for sure. To make it more confusing some are doing better than last year but most aren’t doing as well. I’ve many roses 2nd flush isn’t evident at all. Some just weak growth for 2nd flush with just a few buds. Like I said in the video I hope the ones that aren’t performing above ground as yet, the roots are growing strong. And you never know it’s not even august yet so still time for a good display for both of us.

@soulgirlktf Год назад

Lovely update and nice to see Penelope and get your thoughts. We've been in Wales for a few days so I've come home to a lot of buds opening up on her :) I love Donna haha 'don't take any notice of his roses they're rubbish'!!!!😂🤣😆haha 'she's ignoring me'! too funny you are. Poor Donna her dahlias do look gorgeous maybe you can make room for sweet honey if you are careful and she's not looking haha

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I’m in wales next week for a day or two lovely part of the world. Yes Donna, don’t encourage her :) 😂😂😂 you see what I have to deal with.😂😂

@soulgirlktf Год назад

@@Jay_Jay Our place is near Porthmadog it peeeeed it down on Tue and forecast was same for a few days so we packed up and came back, enjoy Wales next week we love it. Poor Donna she needs to get a little fence and gate around her garden - lock you out of it haha🏡

@davenadainton4209 Год назад

Its been fantastic to look around your garden again. And i wasnt giggling when you nearly fell 😂. I dont want karma to come and get me as last time i broke 3 bones lol

@Jay_Jay Год назад

No walking backwards always always always asking for trouble. So dont go doing that :)

@rgb_6698 Год назад

Lovely tour Jay👌

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Thanks mate

@shomap8747 Год назад

Timeless charisma is divine, I think I will invest in timeless pink this autumn

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Divine, yeah good descriptive word I think :)

@kylathomas68 Год назад

As you said it could be weather too as I’ve fed my roses and still find my garden doesn’t have as many flowers.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I think your right a very challenging year weather wise. Extremes of All weather types. Cutting away shattered flowers extends the bare moments this doesn’t help.

@parfaitamour Год назад

I tolerated PL a week and got rid of her (to a new home). Didn't think much of the colour, it fades too quickly and the blooms shattered too fast for me. Also, for a thorn less rose, it was COVERED in thorns, so off it went! I swapped it out for Golden Celebration, and I'm much happier already :D

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Wow wow I’m really surprised to hear you say this. But this is a case of beauty is only in the eye of the beholder. It’s not for everyone I get that. But I have to say it’s growing on me more. Seeing this rose hitting full first flush with its different shades of pink from deep pink to light pink on the same rose at the same time it is a thing of beauty for me. Best admired from standing back from it. And I’m surprised it doesn’t make a good painting which I believe you do and that surprises me. But I’m not an artist sadly :(

@lono9416 Год назад

Appreciate you doing these trial and errors so we can learn from them! Please can we have a tour of Donna's plants one day? Need some inspiration for my new garden 😊

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I will get her to do a walk around of everything else yes :). Thank you.

@gavinparry5426 Год назад

Nice update JJ. Our gardens never at their best after 1st flush mate. Indian Summer always stands out.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Cheers mate yeah Indian summer a stunner indeed ;) your adopted garden I think ;)

@Cavalier7dar Год назад

I notice the roses that cope better in the rain have done better 4 me. My best rose in my garden is for your eyes only

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Yes we haven’t had much rain at all here but when it comes down it comes down very heavy for a short space of time. Enough to damage the flowers but not enough to feed the roots. Sun damage has played its part this year also. How does for your eyes only cope in the heat?

@Cavalier7dar Год назад

@@Jay_Jay it's great it flowers all summer when flowers finish I cut they rebloom a really good one in my garden if you like this type butterfly seem 2 like it.

@vorong2ru Год назад

Agree, Penelope got a medium fruity fragrance for me and it reminds me A LOT of Munstead wood scent. I like the color and the flower looks cute, but nothing like on the website. I bought it because I like the Harlow Carr style buds paired with Boscobel like flower, but it's nothing like those two in real life.. Feeding - it really depends on the soil, some people plant it in heavy clay that holds the nutrients really well, some of my beds are way too sandy/rocky and my LoS shows signs of deficiencies even if I fed it in Spring! So I think the feeding is essential, I use cheap slow-release ( eracacious food from Wilko, £2 in Autumn on sale for 1 kg) and mulch with manure - this way you won't overfeed it and the nutrients are still there.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi vorong, yes I was a little surprised at the flowers that have shown in my garden compared to the website. But I don’t look at that as a negative or positive. What I do like is it’s not the same pink as many other da’s. I think boscobel had bragging rights on that until now. But Penelope just offers something a little different which in itself I find appealing and the flower is lovely.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Oh yes regarding the feeding youve seen my garden but when I show you my mums garden it kinda turns my garden on its head but she has more clay. Her garden is doing way better than mine. The million dollar question is would it have performed better with feed and mulch this year.

@marilynsmith8054 Год назад

Hi Jay I only feed once in Spring and mulch with horse manure and they still repeat flower. Mainly because I find it too much. Over feeding is worse than not feeding.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi Marilyn. Well there’s no chance of overfeeding this year:) yeah my initial flush i really don’t think the roses missed the feed. I could be wrong of course but whilst one or two roses are doing better than last year, most roses I think are a little exhaustipated:) I’m just not even seeing the decent new growth coming through as yet on my of my good performing roses. But as has been mentioned it’s been a challenging year weather wise and I have to agree. Thanks Marilyn ;)

@obiwankenobi6952 Год назад

Hi there..I think it always depends on the soil, we have heavy Sand Soil, there would not grow any Rose if I would not feed them, clay or Loam is not so bad and the ones in potts get fed constantly…they can go nowhere else for nutrients…but I think they don’t need these heavy fertiliser’s, old Horse manure for instance really boost them well, i always buy it in pellets bags and they thrive…❤❤❤ Your wife is very funny…Roses are rubbish 😂😂 How is your lovely Greyhound doing..

@jasonwoods4811 Год назад

I was just about to go to bed then I saw you posted this video and I had to a have a watch, and nice to see Donna in a video fella, and nice to see your roses :D

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hope I didn’t keep you up too long mate :)

@jasonwoods4811 Год назад

@@Jay_Jay Don't worry it was worth it mate :D

@graceb2009 Год назад

Wonderful roses

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Thank you just not doing so well at the moment. I will show my mums in the conning days hopefully and you will see some roses actually doing well :) thanks

@thebeautyoflifesjourney4740 Год назад

So pretty rose

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I think so too :)

@helenthompson5926 Год назад

I enjoyed that - along with your touches of humor. Re Uetersen, it's long been popular here in NZ and after observing it here closely, I've come to the conclusion that the ideal way to grow it is to allow it to spill over a fence. My neighbour grows it this way - 4 Uetersens planted behind his white picket fence. And they spill profusely over the fence and make a spectacular sight, especially viewed from the street. One question: what is your favourite red rose, which one do you really recommend?

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi there glad you enjoyed. Uetersen yeah a beast. It doesn’t surprise me it grows well up a fence it certainly needs support. You can see the battle I would have moving mine back to the fence line ;) My favourite red, I have only a few true deep red roses. Deep secret is my favourite I have one a year bigger in the front that sadly wasn’t in flower. Not the healthiest rose but a strong grower superb powerful fragrance and flowers that last longer for me than say dark desire. However pure poetry not quiet as deep red but a new purchase that is doing very well indeed.

@lindalilly1544 Год назад

Your roses are doing well. I think the weather is affecting mine. Hope we get to see Donna's dalias

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi Linda yea I still think it’s been a challenging year weather wise which really hasnt helped.

@travellerseko 2 месяца назад

Hi m8, I discovered your channel not long time ago and immediately subscribed due to incredible content. I’d like to hear your opinion about below roses. I live in Glasgow and have south facing garden. It will be planted on the ground. I love disease resistant and sumptuous roses which is full of roses. Which one do you recommend me? Emma Bridgewater Princess Alexandra of Kent Penelope Lively Princess Anne Olivia Rose Austin Boscobel

@chukkaspolo 6 месяцев назад

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@irisjanemay1903 Год назад

I think I like Penelope Lively better than the Donnahue rose. I like the raspberry color. All my light colored roses fade to white in the heat, and I'm afraid Donnahue would do the same. Thank you for the video.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Yes the dannahue rose or whatever it’s called didn’t really do it for me. This rose holds its colour better and is just a little different from the other pinks. :)

@anorthfacinggarden9045 Год назад

My Ammedeus first flush is not budging either. I feel I just have to dead head to promote new flush 😃

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Yes yes yes do this naffy. Last year I waited until the last second getting every second of red out of Amadeus. This year first flush was very good but I cut much of it away at the very first signs of that light mouldy look. Now I have many fresh new roses with more buds appearing for second flush. There won’t be a gap in red I don’t think for sometime.

@burntjohn Год назад

Penelope is similar in form but a different shade from Gaberial Oak. I love it! How about Donnahue. Looks a lot like Poets wife and Roald Dahl Love that color profile and the growth of the bush

@Jay_Jay Год назад

You are correct John. I was trying to think of another rose colour that matched Penelope when she first opens and that colour a 2 day old Gabriel was the closest I could think of. Raspberry sorbet is perhaps the better comparison. But she is a rose that stands alone from other da roses I think. And in its own right. ;)

@anorthfacinggarden9045 Год назад

I imagined well established roses might not need feeding since roots are well grounded, but newer roses might need help especially if not started from bare root. For pots definitely need feed. My climbers have been repeating without feed.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I suspect you are 100 percent correct. Your roses definitely looking better than mine. The roses on the lane last year were not without good strong fresh growth coming through. Gertrude’s also. This year nowhere remotely near as good. But having thought about it perhaps this year I have done a fair amount of premature dead heading of entire stems because of the extremes in weather. So maybe this is the reason more so than no food. Last year despite the drought I don’t recall cutting out entire stems. My potted roses definitely got hit without food this is clear. Even if not first flush then second flush they are completely dormant looking. With only Ab Fab doing well for second flush. A feed on my potted roses showed pretty quick results. I definitely won’t be not feeding them again :)

@N0N4M30 Год назад

If you want your rose to perform they need feeding. Imagine running a marathon with no nutrition or water ? Give them organic feed and enough water and they’ll thank you for it also don’t forget to prune

@treasuresofearth3014 Год назад

I got a James Galway and a Gertrude from DA recently. Gertrude was in blooms and looking strong and healthy, James is a bit weak and flimsy. What's your experience with James? Is he generally a healthy lad or if he genuinely is a difficult rose to grow?

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I’m surprised you say this. I’ve bought many getrudes over the past few years for me or others and the first year or two they can be weak and flimsy is my experience. James Galway on the other hand is a strong grower in my experience with thick sturdy growth. Health wise I have found James Galway to be average in my garden. Not unhealthy but neither a healthy rose. Gertrude’s for me have been towards the unhealthy side of that sliding scale. This is my experience.

@treasuresofearth3014 Год назад

@@Jay_Jay Good to know! I am not sure if I want to spray them intensively, but from what you said, I think I will be spraying Gertrude for sure! It's a shame because I know some people make rose water and jam out of Gertrude's petals.

@cerronejames1510 Год назад

Penelope has a incredible fragrance same as Gertrude

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I’m genuinely jealous :) This is why I pointed out someone else gets the same intensity as you. But for my nose Gertrude is more powerful in terms of fragrance. Penelope for me a very good medium fragrance. Occasionally strong.

@kenvoong5977 Год назад

I’m siding with cerrone on this one. And a word of warning to you Jay… Don’t mess with Donna!!! Especially with her beloved dahlia’s

@Jay_Jay Год назад

@@kenvoong5977like I said mate I’m jealous I don’t get that fragrance intensity you both get. But all our noses are different I guess. People talk of rose black spot but as far as I’m concerned far more serious is “rose fragrance black spot” :) I do get good fragrance from Penelope and on occasion I’ve had it strong, but most times I get a good medium and I can cope with that ;)

@jjjddd231 Год назад

I think the colour of Penelope Lively is very similar, if not identical to John Clare. John Clare is an outstanding rose in the warm climate of South Australia and it is prolific - equivalent to Iceberg in terms of flower production. PL has a much fuller shape with many more petals than John Clare however, JC being almost a semi-double flower.

@rareandwonderfull Год назад

0:27 Super nice shade of pink, of course the strong summer sun bleaches the blooms. When autumn arrives , the blooms will not fade. 5:47 Another element in hestitancy to fertilize plants is uncertainty if there is excess salt accumulation from previous feedings. I like thoroughly composted cattle, horse or chicken manure. THOROUGHLY composted, to the point that it will not sustain funguses. 6:40 Super globular form and and a deliscious orange sherbet color! 10:45 Possibly fertilizer accumulations from previous feedings? 23:00 Suoer nice orange color. 23:50 Yes, several days back I did that with my Chlotilde Soupert, excessive wet weather had the blooms balling, I gently rubbed a few of them and they quickly opened up. 24:10 I see that you are fond of orange roses, I have no orange roses at this time, my "to do list" next year, an orange rose. When deciding what roses to get, fragrance is paramount, I get fixated on fragrance, not quite giving much attention to color, and I end up with ANOTHER pink rose. It seems as if maximum frgarance is the domain of pink color. Your video here will help me decide which orange rose to get, thank you. A QUARTERED orange rose, with intense fragrance would be quite a special combination. 24:37 Super nice pink with a strong orange glow in it, I like what you say about fragrance.

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Hi there, I will try and answer all of your points as best I can, but when I begin typing I can no longer see all of your comments. Penelope, yes this is a rose I like very much. Not too much like the photos on the da website and I tried to capture its colour aswell as it’s form as best I could and come across in a way that was perhaps balanced for different peoples tastes. But it is a rose I like very much. Certainly a ose that stands up in its own right. Yes the fertiliser, all of the roses potted and buried had a deep layer of plant based mulch put down in mid April I still think this was too late in the year. The yellow rose in the front is newly potted this year so has never seen feed other than the mulch I put down, but it’s still doing very well. Yeah orange is a strange one. The colour orange in itself doesn’t really faze me either way. Seeing an orange rose in a garden centre amongst all the other roses again doesn’t really stand out. But it appears you are correct. I’m not a fan of yellow exactly but the amber/orange roses in my garden look fantastic and a colour it transpires I’m drawn to in a rose. Like an accidental occurrence. But one I’m very pleased with. Spicy, Rosemary Harkness, Westerland etc all amongst my favourite roses. A great colour to notice from a window or whilst walking around the garden. Thank you for your comment ;)

@naturessidewithabhilash9380 Год назад

Hey jay.. really sad to see.. how our plan back fired sometimes. You know what all i have learnt growing roses for almost 13-14 ( i was child back then , when i have started almost 10-12 years )years is feeding plays very vital role in growing or flowering in roses. If your plant is in ground and its become like a tree almost 6-7 years they will grow ny there known without feed they will do absolutely fine, But if plant is just a baby planted within one year they need proper feed to spread there roots that will boost plant to produce healthy flowers. But in containers just opposite if rose is new and we recently planted them they have fertile soil soo for temporary basis they will do better but we have to feed them until season ends, specially in old roses and stop fertiling before flowering season ends . Remaining nutrition will work for them. That's what i have follow every year i stop feeding them in mid march . After that they are in there own. Hope this will helps pls feed them if flowering season is still on..

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I think your right with my roses my friend. Some good performing roses in my garden defo seem tired now compared to previous years. First flush I noticed little to no difference. But now growth in those same roses a little slow and tired compared to last year. Whilst most slowed down, one or two roses doing better, how does that work 😂😂:) summer romance last year painfully slow to turn around 2nd flush, but this year it will be a good show and pretty fast I think. ;)

@naturessidewithabhilash9380 Год назад

@@Jay_Jay hmm let's hope for the best... You have jasmina ryt ?? How she is doing?

@Jay_Jay Год назад

@@naturessidewithabhilash9380 yes two secs I’ll try and do a quick video for you

@naturessidewithabhilash9380 Год назад

@@Jay_Jay oh thanks mate.. even I have Jasmina but not in flowers yet. I have grown one cutting sd well which is now 4-5 month old doing fine

@Jay_Jay Год назад

@@naturessidewithabhilash9380 sounds great mate. I Didn’t realise you had a cutting already, but here’s a video for you of my rose and my thoughts on it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YP0fjYMw4ak.html

@seniyeshepherd3050 Год назад

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@Jay_Jay Год назад

Thanks Seniye

@wikicamara Год назад

so you got rid of The Lark Ascending?

@Jay_Jay Год назад

No chance. Lark ascending is in the ground now at the back of the bed in the front garden. I don’t think I’ve filmed it much this year.

@debbiewilson6527 Год назад

I enjoy your videos so much. Hot still here in Texas .107*

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Thank you Debbie. I hope it cools down for you soon. That’s way hot :)

@kevinpowell7948 Год назад

Silas Marner & Roald Dahl not many flowers for me, fed them both. C'est la vie.🍻

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I wish I could show you a photo of my mums Silas Marner. Second flush it’s doing very well. No feed! I will video soon. But sometimes I think it’s dark arts.

@veratruthe2703 Год назад

I’ve got deep secret.. smells stunning, you should try one called hot chocolate

@Jay_Jay Год назад

I have seen hot chocolate a stunning rose and one that stands out. Whenever I’m at a garden centre you know it’s there before looking at the label.

@mariaso9362 Год назад

Is it the same colour than Leonardo da vinci?

@Jay_Jay Год назад

Difficult to put it up against colours from other roses in my garden but there is a very vague likeness at some stage of opening I guess. But what’s best about this rose is the colour change of different shades of pink all on the same plant but from the different roses at different times of opening. Best seen from a distant so the colours can all be taken in.