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i paused on the script expecting more on the nose jokes about how corporations expect managers to work. imagine my surprise when it actually starts naming disney, lucasfilms, etc
If youve ever read some of the leaked NDA’s the companies produce, they are all horrible horrible companies. Even Disney is a horrible company. I can genuinely say compared to slaves, Disney animators are getting treated worse, at least slaves get homes and food. Same hours and everything for only around $40k a year, not enough for rent in Orlando or L.A. And all those companies require the workers to be in one of those cities, or one of the major animation hubs. Ik calling the comparison to slaves is bad but still, its not a good deal to be an animator nowadays.
@@ryanp7546| Sylvia went to the big city to become a professional animator. When she was promoted to "manager" she was slowly corrupted by the exploitative system, until she couldn't recognize herself anymore. In the end, we see her exploiting a fresh-faced animator, just as was done to her.
Ok so what I gather from this is that animation and videogame studios do not pay their employees a proper wage and instead abuse them into working extra hours. Other than that, you're externalizing your fear of being obscured by bigger creators who also work on the "trippy/psychedelic" format, as well as having an audience who either deeply relates to your struggles and is inspired by your work or doesn't really care and treats it like "haha another weeeeird video on RU-vid" without giving it a change. "Those who are curious will pay attention" meaning that there's a group of people that actually want to know what the creator means with their pieces. People who FEEL the art. And inside your mind, it's this eternal conflict of "will people understand me? Will they care enough about my animations to stay? Will they like my art? Will they like... me?"
@@annguerrero9988 Honestly, I agree ANDY LAND is a fantastic artist with very interesting concepts. But the video does kinda feel like they think they're above being compared to others and that they don't appreciate that many people enjoy art and animation just because it looks nice or cool. To want everyone to appreciate art from a psychological standpoint is pretty immature.
It is their art though, so it’s up to them what kind of audience they prefer. People can have preferences. As for being compared to other artists, the vast majority of artists find that irritating it’s not something exclusive to artists who think they’re “above others”.
note how the portrait on the desk at 3:11 is just a blurry, messed up picture of your parents from the beginning, and how the song at that same spot has the same/similar tune of 'my folk's place.' nice lil details i love about this :] incredible animation also id like to say that i LOVE that the purple dog and corrupt giraffe ceo both turn out to just be stuffed animals. idk i love that even if i dont know what it can convey symbolism-wise
that detail stuck out to me a lot, i didn't even notice the writing about disney and lucasfilms at first because i was focused on it. I kind of assumed that there was some symbolism behind the blur, like sylvia didn't want to remember them because they sent her out here. Or that she was struggling to remember her former self, after losing any freedom of self expression. I suppose dog and girrafe turning into dolls could be about her realising the reality of her situation, though I thought nothing of it when i first watched
@@craftykit2242 I think it’s even more herself who doesn’t recognise herself, she’s no more Silvia (the name is not only blurred, but also crossed with a red marker, the fact the only time we see her without the drug effect is in a mirror in her workplace, with the quote “how did I get here?”), she’s the manager who obeys the rules of CEOs like (supposedly) her uncle Sam And I’ve just remarked the “pun” of calling Sam an uncle
It's kinda like the ship of Theseus. People when put under the wringer of late stage capitalism are forced to lose parts of themselves in order to survive, like our cat loses her name and 30 years of her life just to become Manager; a generic cog in the machine. Those who are the predators in the system have completely replaced themselves with cheap stuffing, with their appearance being mass produced. There's nothing inside and out that is living anymore. You could also say that at the peak of her trauma lets her see how the world truly is, even for a brief period of time. But she has no support network to fall back on so adapting is her only choice for survival. That and it gets turned into a cool visual.
I thought maybe that the fact that the ceos were puppets could be that they were puppets to someone even larger? Perhaps they’re puppets to another person, investors, or maybe something more abstract such as capitalism itself.
I feel a good bit of people missed why Andy referenced those creators. There very much is a reason Andy referenced them like they did in the video. It may, just might be, they're tired of being related to those creators.
I get why people compare Andy to these people, their works have similarities, but isn’t that just because they fill the same genre? I don’t mind having my work compared to others, but I definitely understand how disheartening it can be. Especially being compared to someone well known
It’s pretty well known at this point that many animators that work at some studios are paid less than minimum wage or mistreated. Just look at the story behind Sausage Party (2016)
Yeah, Capitalism screws over a ton of people in creative industries (games, movies, animation, etc). They take advantage of people's passion by forcing them to work over a hundred hours a week for awful pay, all the while CEOs who do basically nothing get billions more.
@@Drako9823 in order to maximize profits, business owners pay their employees less than the amount their labor yields for the business. wage labor and private property are definitively the capitalist elements which contribute to the aforementioned situation.
They actually made one! It's called DUST.EXE, but you can only play on pc! It doesn't cost money either, but i definitely recommend supporting them on their patreon. You can get the game on itch.io
Rewatching this and pausing multiple times throughout the animation. What I got is that this animation shows how top companies such as Disney and Pixar exploit their animators and artists, paying them little to nothing. The *THOSE* and *WHO* segments/statements are probably about the two types of audiences that Andy and other artists garnered. The ones that analyze it further, feeling the art and trying to find the intention behind it, and the others that simply watch and carry on with their day. When the guy at the Pubb looks at Sylvia, and compares her to a bunch of artists (Joel G that made ENA, Baphomet Kun that makes weird edits, Jack Stauber who is known for his claymation, and Aimkid with their essentric and stretchy style), I feel like this is Andy speaking about his experiences of being compared. As an artist, being compared to bigger characters and artists despite them having little to no similarities with you or your character is infuriating. In the “Dog Blood” section of the animation, this part reveals how companies truly treat their employees, even if they have higher positions such as CEO. They only care about their own profits and their own reputations, and not the care of their employees (I.e. paying them a higher wage, reducing back-breaking labor hours and the use of overtime, encouraging their employees to constantly work and work without any breaks). It is apparent when Sylvia accepts this poor management and behavior of the company as normal, saying, “That’s how the Apple rots, I guess.” and earlier before that, she’s officially lost it, “IM LOOSING ME.” not having the support of the company that she wanted.
@@trashchannel7749 that's how lot of fonts work. It's called a "ligature"! Some fonts will automatically join certain sequences of characters into a specially designed appearance meant to look nicer than just lining them up together as normal. In this case, the dot of the i is being joined with the curve of the f. If you type it and watch carefully, you'll also notice the top of the f gets a little longer too! The system for modern font ligatures is extremely versatile, and they show up all over the place in a lot of neat ways, or are sometimes even creatively exploited! It's also quite similar to how a lot of emojis work!
I think it is important for you to know that this gave me a nightmare about working at a dead end animation job for a surreal megacorp, that's what i get for watching this late at night but i loved every second of it. This is one of the most specifically depressing animations i have ever seen and I think it is completely brilliant.
this is truly brilliant. it's weird how, eventually, you literally wrote what is the video about on screen and people are still "haha ENA reference" on comments. as you wrote yourself, "those who are alive are alive". i already apreciated your work a lot, and now i do it even more.
unbelievable the fluidity of the animation and the speed at which you make these. I hope that you'll get the recognition and pay you deserve and stop being compared only to other creators
Hey, your animations are pretty good! You should *totally* apply to one of the big name animation studios, where you're sure to be offered a competitive wage!
Those who browse on the go will not see me. Those who observe vertically will not see me. Those who pay no respect to Art will not see me. Those who envy will turn their heads away from my screen. Those who bore easily will skip ahead and those who are dead are dead. Those who understand will stay. Those who relate will cry. Those who care will pause. Those who are curious will pay attention. Those who are hungry will try. Those who are inspired will replicate. Those who are alive are alive.
@@extrapathos I think it's simply a message differentiating people who appreciate and respect art, and those who don't. Not too sure myself but wanted to share it here to open up discussion. Probably just a bit of a secret message for the people curious enough to pause and read and fully appreciate the work put into animation.
@@extrapathos It’s kinda a message of hope for me. There will always be people who want to truly be alive, and those people will see me. That kinda stuff
Subtle detail appreciation: The stuff you do with dialogue boxes/animating text is amazing. Pancake house was very memorable in this, but it’s great here too. A video game with you designing the text engine would turn out awesome for sure. Dust didn’t really show that off, though it was really cool. Looking forward to your future endeavors!
To break down the scene of Vinilliam, it's very obviously Andy venting about getting compared to other animators so much, with Vinilliam representing the view on Andy Land's viewerbase. The character has a less than appealing design and is smoking, the voice is one of the stock dumb voices, Sylvia shows clear annoyance from the scenario in a way that seems like they represent Andy Land, Vinilliam only ever talks about other animators, and worst of all, the comparisons hold *next to no water* when you think about it. Seriously, what the hell is the connection with Jack Stauber and Aimkid? Looking into this scene, I can very clearly see why you're frustrated by these people. I suppose comparison is human nature, but it doesn't have to be done out loud. Man, I typed a text block disecting one short scene that has zero bearing on the plot or main message with information that has already been said 1000 times. Maybe I'm part of the problem after all.
One of the top comments of this video talked about wishing for a possible collab with ENA and Andy, and I think that's pretty cool how people gravitate towards similar things, or at least similar ideas of things.
literally just got into pursuing a game design degree. this vid is one hell of an eye opener, but extremely welcome to know. it hits because i was originally like "haha i TOO know those fellow content creator references!", but then it gets to the harsh reality of it, realizing you could become soulless with only a style *similar* to that of other content creators with ultimately no originality (ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE FOR ANDY LAND- they've been iconic for me throughout)- and then there's the tinyurl link! color me terrified! my only comfort in this is knowing that there are the "who"s in your audience who will try their damnest to get if you have a message to show, but, dang this is a lot to take in. bless andy land's vision and packtion's music for such a good video holy heck
@@po1sonseede9001 ah oh dear,, alright, i'll admit i probably didn't analyze the full iceberg of this video when watching the first time. could you tell me what i missed in my comment, if that's alright? i think andy land's work here was great and i'd feel pretty bad to misinterpret the important stuff D:
@@ii-dh7lq Check the tinyurl link at the end of this video, it goes to an actual article about a large effort to keep wages down industry-wide. That's the point of the video, I think.
1:27 Lemme guess the references (even if someone prolly did this before me): Joel G, the creator of Ena Baphometkun (an editor) Jack Stauber No idea who the last one is though. Edit: found it, the last one is Aimkid
Can someone tell me why, when I got to the end of the video, accidentally clicked an ad, went back, and now have the video loading indefinitely at "2 seconds out of 6", the chapter, for SOME REASON, reads "Jerma985"
[Feel free to reply and suggest your own theories] it’s my first time watching this channel but damn, this stuff was deep as hell. I thought it was mostly ARG till I read 2:48 ‘s sections for Who and Those. Then after the script + reading through the linked article, went back to re-watch the vid. Dunno if this was the whole point, this is my take on the video. I see the parts past 2:20 as the video is raising awareness for the animation corporations scandals on their salaries. Or maybe for big companies as a whole. If I’m right, thank you for such an amazing video and for raising awareness for a fairly unknown topic such as this. Edit: Especially sections 2:49, 2:53, and 2:59 seem very important. With 3:09 having the entire thing loop back around to the same manager our MC experienced. Because, that’s just how the apple rots. After time, devolving from its original beautiful form to its counterpart. The counterpart being the manager. if you look closely at 2:59, the MC is running on film. More evidence of my current theory for the meaning Also with 3:09, like the corrupt CEO said earlier, time passed by like nothing. 30 years without even knowing how they got there. And throughout all that time following the same way the apple rots. Pt. 2: I believe the “corporations” are: Wolf, Rogerie, Sam, Archibald, and Owl. Symbolizing the 5 companies in the scandal: Disney, DreamWorks, Pixar, Lucasfilm, and Sony. The songs in order are: My folks place, New in town, Quarterly reports, Underbelly, Network Inn, Dog Blood, March, BaBaBa, and finally Bitter Acceptance. Symbolizing the path the apple rots in, the apple being the person. {My Folks Place} MC is pushed out into the world having to go out on their own. {*New in town*} MC has just gotten into the job industry, Rogerie and Archibald symbolizing the hawks (Corporations) trying to get them fresh, since they’re vulnerable. {*Underbelly*} The dark side of the companies. Polmy symbolizing the bribery of companies to keep trade secrets. The “TRAFIK” people is obviously symbolizing human trafficking. Polmy then picks up “coke”, before bribing you not to tell anybody. However after this tricking you, by telling you to go visit the Pubb, which has the song name as Network Inn. The hiring section, where there’s a recruiter for a corrupt corporation he works for. {*Network Inn*} Vinilliam I’m not sure on. He tells you he knows you, giving examples, then asking you if you know of “Stock Jauber (Jack Stauber probably) and Aiming Child (dunno this one)”. Harold I’m still not sure on, he seems to be the recruiter / middleman for the corporations. The MC asks Harold for “dog blood”. I’m not fully sure what Dog Blood symbolizes for, but it seems to be having a taste of a good life, at a high price. Sam then says he’ll pay for it. The MC then says they can afford it, however Sam interjects saying they can’t. This symbolizes the mind games corporations play with their employees, tricking them into thinking they need them to get whatever they want. Without their corporation they’re working for, and without that uniform, the MC wouldn’t be able to do anything because the corporation doesn’t pay enough for them. Sam then tricks the MC again by telling them they can get a “promotion”. Although this promotion, is in the favor of Sam and not in the MC. The MC then drinks the “dog blood”, initializing their control into Sam’s hands. Sam being, the corporation. The MC being “drugged” by Sam’s control. The MC then fully starts the phase of control, drifting their mind into nothing, and going “autopilot” while time passes by. {*March*} Sam and Owl meet up, Owl trying to persuade Sam into working for him. Sam knowing what he’s doing, instead proposes that they underpay the MC and shows Owl his plan. Owl and Sam then work together to squeeze the MC into as much work as possible with his weekend suggestion. {*BaBaBa*} The two corporations then laugh over their success. The starting photo of their gigantic size symbolizing their monopoly and control over the city. The MC states they’re losing themselves, with blood under their mouth. The blood symbolizes the dog blood as the company keeps giving them a taste of the true thing, controlling the MC as they lose themself and lose understanding. The two parts of MC’s thought process then appear, conflicting eachother. In the next section we realize that pink = trying to make sense, and blue = true feeling, Conflicting each other. I’m not fully sure on the Those and Who, texts, they mean something as a poem it seems but I can’t understand it. As the “Those” (right) text depicts though, it must be because I’m not staying to read long enough. Next thing the MC knows, their friends are gone, even though the MC thought they were just here a second ago. The MC then tries to make sense of simple things in the next scene, but can’t, so it doesn’t. Symbolizing the MC’s thought process being rot to the point of not trying to understand anymore. Just accepting, that this, is how, the apple rots. Or how their life, goes. and finally, {*Bitter Acceptance*} The MC has accepted everything, and. forgotten who they are (as evident by their name being crossed out). They have accepted time’s passing, having 30 years happen without knowing how they ever got there. The MC bitterly, but finally, accepts how the apple, being their life, rots, or goes on. I don’t understand the entire thing since I’m still not old enough for a job legally but this is my take :) Thank you for listening :) If you’d like to talk privately about this, heccin#2714
Hey, I wanted to ask about how you feel about people saying you should make a show/game. People who comment this clearly mean it as a compliment, but I feel it could come off as demeaning towards your individual works. As I could see it undermining the piece's message and, from what I perceive, your value of a individual's creative expression. I'm likely thinking way to far into this so please correct me if I see wrong. However, art is post to make you think.
Holy shit holy shit holy shit so fucking coooool I can't describe the feeling these animations give me. Pure... something. Like it's itching the back of my psyche. Cool shit.
Artists being exploited to create their art for next to nothing is one of the most consistent occurrences in all of human history. It's a combination of enjoying what they do and very little business sense that makes them such easy targets. True mastery of any art-form requires just as much time and effort as a medical or legal degree, and yet they are rarely treated with such respect. This is why artist unions are so vital. So-long as fresh artists continue to agree to slave wages because they don't know any better, studios won't have to worry about replacing the employees they burn through.
The amount of work you put in your videos is insane. independent creators don't have it easy, but keep doing what you love doing! Your dedication really inspires me.
i come to watch this video every now and then and it pisses me off that this video barely has any views compared to how much it deserves?? This video is such a treat with amazing visuals and design and ueee ;w;;
Honestly, I wasn’t expecting this. I saw your work through a shorts recommendation (thank you RU-vid for tracking my activity), and I’m pleasantly surprised. You animate in a way that I really like and deliver messages that make me think. It’s always great to find content like this on RU-vid. Even if you change something about it, I’ll stick around. Rest up, take your time, and I hope to see more!
Wow, the music was awesome! And it really had some story to it! You really did a good job on putting the viewer in to perspective of the character, great work!
