Great as always! Ive learned more from you than any photography teacher I've had in the past years. The way you explains things just make more sense, you are by far the best teacher I've had.. in I've had a few actually. Thanks for giving out all this for free! I will buy your course very soon, ill rather give my money to you than any of the teachers iv had in the past.
Hi, great video! My imported photos from Lightroom to Photoshop open up zoomed in (even though it says 25% at the bottom left corner, it looks zoomed in 50%), I can't see the whole picture as before. Now I have to click Fit Screen on every picture I import before I can work on it. Any suggestions?
Going to have to re watch the part about smart objects wrapped in PSDs and PSDs wrapped in smart objects again; you just blew my mind!!! (easy done). Very possibly just change my entire work flow though, I learned photoshop long before lightroom and do pretty much everything in it; really only use lightroom for cataloguing up till now.
Very informative, thank you, but there is one thing I'm not sure about. If you take a RAW file into PS and do a load of pixel level editing (cloning / healing etc) and save as a PSD, do you not lose the 'depth'' of information of the original RAW file? i.e When you open the file back in LR, can you retrieve as much detail from the shadows / highlights when compared to the original RAW file?
So if you like to do things opposite and do all LR stuff first then move in to PS to do any final retouching etc can you just export from PS to save the image rather then sending back to LR. I feel if I send the images back to LR and then have doubles of each image. I'm going to get lost as to which ones to "save/export" for the clients. If this makes any sense at all.. right now I'm doing my LR edits, exporting them and then going in to PS and doing final retouching in PS on jpeg rather then the raw. Note LR is very very new to me, I've always used PS. I'm loving LR but I still love PS for those final skin retouching etc
Which monitor are you using that allows you to see an image in pro rgb? Isn’t it important to edit a photo in the color space that a photo will be displayed? I.e., edit in adobe rgb for print, edit in srgb for digital... my take on pro rgb is that it’s more of a theory as there are hues in that color space that don’t exist. Or can’t be seen by the human eye.
Hi Nathaniel, thanks for another excellent video. Very helpful. One thing I got a little lost on was the advantage of wrapping the raw file in a smart object and why doing that is useful. I can understand why that's helpful when you are working only with PS. But I got a little lost as to how that is helpful when going from the LR to PS. Thanks!
The way I like to work is actually the opposite. I like to do all my color grading and exposure editing in Lightroom first then bring it into Photoshop for retouching if needed. The reason being is that if I delete my retouched PSD / TIFF file, I still have a baseline to start from. Not saying this is better than your method. Personally, I really hate the fact that every time I bring a file into Photoshop it 10x my file size. As a result, I tend to minimize my use of Photoshop whenever possible. I've also noticed that if you do want to keep the PSD / TIFF file around and you want to minimize the size of the file, it's best to merge down all your layers before bring it back to Lightroom. Obviously, you won't be able to tweak your adjustments layers again. It's something I do to try to save space...
you can render all the layers before exporting back to lightroom . but i think doing the lights and color correction its a must thats the point of a raw file having the dynamic range. i still trying to find the best way to do it without loosing quality
Nice tutorial! This workflow is perfect for me as an amateur "Dad photographer." I like to shoot emotionally and really try to capture that powerful moment on site and worry about perfecting composition later. Screw posing and smiling, everyone else will shoot those anyway on six different phones. The way I work, if kids are blowing out candles they'll be done and playing around in 5 min. So I get the head shots I need and then shoot the background when everyone is gone, deal with any (photographic) decapitations or whatever in PS. I do find it irritating that PSD files are so big as I store on the cloud.
Can you help me? I appreciate the video, but I’m having some difficulty still. What I do is create a folder with two sub folders on my external hard drive that is linked to Lightroom upon import from my card. Then I pull up the photos in Lightroom, edit a little, and then file open with photoshop and complete my edits. Now, in photoshop I save the file as a PSD first and then export a few jpegs into my other folder still on external hard drive linked to Lightroom. The issue I’m running into is that if I go back to Lightroom to view my photoshop saved PSD and JPEG files, I have to synchronize each folder in Lightroom in order to see the photos in the library reflected on my external hard drive. Is there a way to auto sync these so that I don’t have to keep doing this sync step every time in order to see the photoshop exported files in Lightroom? I hope I’m making sense. I find it so confusing thanks.
Hey man, thanks this was so helpful. Quick question-I’ve been using LR for a while but am relatively new to PS-can anyone tell me how the workflow goes if I’m working on a photo in PS over a period of a couple of days? The first day after editing I save it and it goes back to my LR catalog nicely, but then when I want to reopen it and work further on it in PS, what do I do? Open it thru LR & click “edit in” PS again? Or do I go straight to the project in PS to continue editing? The latter makes sense to me and is more direct, but then when I hit save in PS (after the 2nd editing session), it doesn’t return to LR as it did during the first round. Sorry for the long comment/question, but if anyone can help me, I’m pulling my hair out a bit. Thanks in advance!
hey bro I think I know what you mean and here is how to fix it. The second time you want to open your photo you need to select "Edit in PS" and then choose option "Edit Original". That will open your previously edited version in PS with all layers etc.
Hey man, I eventually figured it out but thanks so much for replying. Glad to hear I seem to be doing it the “right” way. It took me a long time to grasp the difference between RAW files and pixel layers and therefore why I couldn’t just hop back and forth piling LR edits and PS edits on top of each other.
I dont know if you could help but recently when I edit a photo in Lightroom with the black and white treatment and then click "edit in photoshop" it loads the image into photoshop but in color. Has this happened to you?
My photos are not saving back I the same spot. It’s adding them to the beginning of the catalog. Anyone know how to get them to save back in the same spot?
No matter how many times I edit in photoshop and then save, it never re-appears back in Lightroom after closing photoshop. By the way, I don’t use the “save as” option. Can anyone help? I’m using CC Lightroom & Photoshop on my iMac Desktop
My Links between Lightroom and Photoshop are working correctly. Now they're not how do I fix the link between them so when I save in Photoshop it automatically uploads in Lightroom?
Hi there! Thanks for the video! Can you tell me how I can solve this problem? Every time I export my photos from lightroom that have been edited in photoshop, I get BOTH the original photo and the PS edit. How can I export so that I ONLY get the PS edited photo? I can't find this answer anywhere. Thank you!
in what colorspace do you shoot your raw images? AdobeRGB? Whats the difference shooting in sRGB or AdobeRGB during the workflow? Do you export the image in ProPhoto? Which colorspace workflow is best for print/web?
I shoot in AdobeRGB and I shoot there because sRGB has a much more limited color gamut. Once I bring the image into Lightroom I like to work in ProPhoto because it's got an even bigger color gamut. Depending on what you export your image as, you'll have different limitations in terms of color space, but I like to work with the absolute max color gamut while editing. Typically images for the web will be converted to sRGB no matter how you edit them. Hope that helps a little!
Thanks Nathan :) awesome tut as always. Any other tips/videos on Photographic workflow would also be really appreciated, there are so many technique videos out there but everyone seems to forget about workflow but it's so important. Not that your technique vids aren't great of course ;)
Brilliant video (that I've watched more than once!) and one of very few that don't talk about Lightroom 'Classic' > Photoshop round tripping. I've followed along, but for some reason my modified version in PS just does not show up in Lightroom once I hit save and/or close. It not only converts to TIFF once it arrives/opens in PS, but the save ends up here: Macintosh HD/Users/[my username]/Pictures/Lightroom Library.lrlibrary/TemporaryEdits/[the file] Have you seen this before and any idea how I can rectify this? (I'm using Adobe Photoshop Lightroom v 4.4 and Photoshop 22.5 release on 2021 MacBook Pro M1 chip)
I've just discovered the route of the issue myself, if it's of any use to anyone with the same prob. (but at this moment, I don't know the fix yet!). If I use the Edit in Photoshop function from Lightroom, and then tweak it/modify it/save or close it BEFORE the autosave kicks in, then the round trip works and the updated version shows up in Lightroom. If I work for any length of time (I think it may be anything more than 10 mins, or whatever my Autosave is set to by default) then the changes do not come back to Lightroom. So next step is working out how to get around this so the round trip does not get broken. Possibly just remove 'Autosave' function!? I'll keep playing.
Nice video. The proble I have in Lightroom round tripping to photoshop is that when I open an already edited tiff (with title caption andcolor rating) in PS from LR and then save it back into the lightroom this letadata is gone. Is there a setting that prevents this?
Always keep the RAW. It's essentially the equivalent of your film "negative"; you will find, as I have done, that your editing skills improve over the years, and you may want to re-edit the image at some point.
the biggest problem for me is loosing all my settings in Lightroom. for example mask objects if I want to go back and do adjustments I no longer can. this sucks!
Lightroom has more advanced engines in terms of processing color, tone, sharpening, among many other aspects of editing. Aside from editing, Lightroom is an amazing organizational tool for photographers and also makes it easy to export one or multiple images and automatically resize groups of images, prepare images for printing, make photo books, create animated slideshows, and much more. Lightroom is like a more powerful version of Camera RAW. I still love Camera RAW, though! 🍻
you think so? what if i open it straight on photoshop as a raw file it opens camera raw aromatically so it will be better to deal with the lights there than skin retouch and export to light room to color correct?
nice tutorial though u r always better off using a tiff than a psd. Also, its a little misleading to tell people to use pro photo rgb with a 'set it and forget it' attitude. Most computers cant display that color space, and most printers can't even print prophoto rgb. Yeah you'll convert back to srgb for web, but if you decide to start printing your content you really need to understand these color spaces, and you will more commonly be workign with a printing company that asks for srgb or adobergb color space. I see a lot of tutorials reccomend to keep settings on prophoto rgb as well, and I cant understand why. We can't see those colors!
I'm here taking notes from the beginning, only to find out: I DIDN'T NEED TO SINCE YOU WERE SHOWING ME SOMETHING I SHOOOOULD NOT DO.... Please, keep it simple. Tell us what we WANT TO DO, what we SHOULD DO... AVOID all things we don't need. SMH!!!
