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Johnny is back on my channel as we debate which is the best estate car: My 420GSi or his 2.5 V6 manual.
#estatecar #whichisbetter #rover75 #rover420 #420gsi #kv6 #blackstoneedge #fast rover #carhumor #projectnigel
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@johnny2scoobs197
@johnny2scoobs197 Год назад
The guy in the leather jacket is really cool. Not so sure about the weird hairy bloke though…just kidding! What a great video which I thoroughly enjoyed being a part of.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Yeah you did look quite cool actually 😊
@SteveDull
@SteveDull Год назад
Some great roads around here. Trouble is whenever I go out for a play I always get stuck behind some weirdos in their Rovers 🤷‍♂️😁
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
🤣
@sydsnott5042
@sydsnott5042 Год назад
​@@ProjectNigel 😂😂😂
@SvennsCarchannel
@SvennsCarchannel Год назад
Two handsome Tourers that! What the 75 needs is a healthy 1.8 Turbo. Makes a much livelier driving experience. And they got great mileage. My ZTT 1.8T I’ve got as much as 45 mpg out of on a long steady run 😀
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
I prefer the turbo too actually
@johnny2scoobs197
@johnny2scoobs197 Год назад
I’ve got nearly 40 mpg out of the 75 on long run, but it’s difficult to not let the V6 sing
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Well the sound is something else.
@SvennsCarchannel
@SvennsCarchannel Год назад
@@johnny2scoobs197 that’s not bad going! There is no question witch makes the best noise thou! I’ve got a 2.0 V6 automatic in for some small work. Smoooooooth and melodious! But sadly soooo gutless. 2.5 manual if better I know☺️
@owensteele1645
@owensteele1645 Год назад
A 1995 R8 Tourer that still has its Exeter Rover dealer sticker in the rear windscreen, is lovely to see. I recently drove past what used to be Exeter Rover, on Honiton Road on the A30. It's an E-Bike showroom now😢.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
The rear screen had loads of stickers but this is the only one I wanted to keep
@SmashingPistons
@SmashingPistons Год назад
These are a really good couple of videos. Love em! Although the 75 is the nicer car to me, even if it's not better. Maybe a farer comparison would be the 420 against a ZT-T.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Glad you like them 😊
@ron951
@ron951 Год назад
The robert 420 is better car because it is a honda car with
@StevensPaul
@StevensPaul Год назад
Lovely. Two men. Two Station Wagons. Eight wheels. Two engines. Two Transmissions. Two Tailgates. Two opinions. Two different driving experiences............ And a bunch of other shit👀💥😜👀😁!!
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Thank you 😊
@beardsandbangers
@beardsandbangers Год назад
Nice to see Johnny in this video! And a nice celebration of the tourer in the year of the tourer.
@badbooks476
@badbooks476 Год назад
Great Rover Tourer comparison & interesting thoughts from both of you. Nice Hooligan R8 action at the end
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Thank you 😁
@Dick-Dastardly
@Dick-Dastardly Год назад
Its hard to believe the R8 dates as far back as 1988 - at that time it was way ahead of the Escorts and Astras of the day. I had a 214 R8 and later had a same year 1.4 Astra. I also had access to a 1.6 Escort of that era so I feel suitably qualified to say. I mentioned in a comment on Project Norman Butler that when the 75 (saloon) came out I thought it looked quite similar to the Jaguar S-Type. If I'd had an S-Type I'd have invested in a 'My other car's a Rover' sticker! The 75 Tourer I thought an improvement on the saloon. I wish there had been a 45 tourer though. I wonder if anyone has ever modified the rear of a 45? Now there's a project! Oh, I liked the video by the way! Johnny comes across as a great character!😁
@georgeplayingguitar
@georgeplayingguitar Год назад
The 75 V6's cons are what I love with my XJ. 3.0 V6 that has 240bhp, and will return 26mpg around town, 38mpg on a long trip... No brainer for me. Although, I had always wanted a 75.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
You're still enjoying that motor then 🙂
@johnny2scoobs197
@johnny2scoobs197 Год назад
The 75 can be very frugal if you don’t keep flooring it. I’ve had nearly 40 mpg on a run
@georgeplayingguitar
@georgeplayingguitar Год назад
@@ProjectNigel Right now I am. Service, MOT, insurance and road tax to come later this month. I’ll reply again soon🤮😂
@georgeplayingguitar
@georgeplayingguitar Год назад
@@johnny2scoobs197 That’s great! I bought a 45 because I couldn’t afford a 75 at the time. Still on the list.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
That would really take some work! 😄
@brucemay5409
@brucemay5409 Год назад
I love the door shut comparison,made me laugh a lot! I had to adjust the strikers on my Rover to get the doors to shut nicely!!Great video though Paul..
@martinnorth2680
@martinnorth2680 Год назад
I had a diesel R8 tourer, then a 75 tourer, now a ZTT. I loved my R8 but it wasn't as good as the ZTT. However, I found the 75 too dull to drive, but very quiet and smooth
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
I have heard anyone say the 75 is dull to drive before
@martinnorth2680
@martinnorth2680 Год назад
@@ProjectNigel maybe dull was too strong, but found the steering really lifeless and the car had no feel to it. But I love all Rovers really
@johnny2scoobs197
@johnny2scoobs197 Год назад
Maybe an auto 75 is dull compared to a ZT
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
I wonder if the rack was a bit worn
@martinnorth2680
@martinnorth2680 Год назад
@@ProjectNigel good point
@sydsnott5042
@sydsnott5042 Год назад
And another excellent car comparison review. Ive gone off the KV6 engine as theyre geared oh so wrong. 3k revs st 70mph? Ouch. My 2.5 V6 only revs at 2k at 70 or 3.5k revs in 4th at 70. As for looks the 420 estate wins hands down. And OMG Capn. You guitar playing is coming on wonderfully 👍👏
@kevincraven4038
@kevincraven4038 Год назад
Yes my 75 1.8 definitely needs a sixth gear for 70-75 mph motorway cruising - 3k rpm gets a bit wearing! 😐
@doctorhugocat
@doctorhugocat Год назад
The 75 estate is an excellent car but there's something about the styling of the 420GSi that is very special...............
@Paul_Davies77
@Paul_Davies77 Год назад
Great video with 2 gorgeous cars, but for me it's the R8 all day long
@This_Is_TheGreenwood
@This_Is_TheGreenwood Год назад
Good vid! Johnny is very watchable/listenable. Really liked the filter (if there was one? the general colourisation I mean) and the music. This is the type of vid that shows us non-car-enthusiast peeps what is actually great about cars and keeps us coming back for more of the creative stuff (and cars). And did I say I liked the music?
@martinwarner1178
@martinwarner1178 Год назад
I am thinking that Johnny is taking first prize. He seems like a very very classy version of Sid James. Ride on Johnny! Peace be unto you both.
@johnny2scoobs197
@johnny2scoobs197 Год назад
I’ve never had that one before 😂
@martinwarner1178
@martinwarner1178 Год назад
@@johnny2scoobs197 well that's how I see it, Captain of class acts. You never rebuffed him, you were always conducive to his criticism....perfect!. Peace brother.
@martinwarner1178
@martinwarner1178 Год назад
@@johnny2scoobs197 You deserve it Johnny. Soak it up Captain.
@jimmyquinn9639
@jimmyquinn9639 Год назад
Excellent video mustard of you having fun with your mate the R8 was the better car 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️👋👋
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Thank you 😊
@johnchincotta1qwdb15
@johnchincotta1qwdb15 Год назад
The rover R8 models had Honda influence hence better quality build. The 75 however quality build left a lot to be desired despite been designed by BMW.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
They made cars better 25 years ago
@phibin777
@phibin777 Год назад
another great vid with Johnny as fun to watch as always, so well done sir on that point something you sort of overlooked is the age difference in relation to the build of both cars, the 75 is far later, maybe 15 years later in design? so all the interior will be far more flimsy and plastic to pass later crash regulations and deform when you hit it, the 420 will feel far more solid inside... but will break your knees hitting a shopping trolley lol and sharp plastic shards will impale you lol the doors will also feel far heavier with the SIP stuff going on again for later tests just a generally heavier safer car the 75 is also a far more practical car, as you touched on, built for the job no sunroof with roof bars, split tail gate for dog 3 section rear fold down no wood for kids to tear apart in rear etc and a V6 with a manual box!! so even though your now old and kids and dog and wife you can still hear that noise :) and suspension from BMW so the dog dosnt throw up in the back HAHA the 420 has the 80s lines though..... that rear is very pretty! but spoilt with that horrible rotting antenna imo it was also built in a time of bad choices lol like that rear suspension bouncing all over the road in the chase shots one word... Leyland :D outdated technology and engineering even though at the time of build it was BAE? with little real vision? a mediocre car with a high build cost? my conclusion the rear of the 420 is pretty but the 75 is better in every aspect really from suspension, to engine, to usable car the the 75 is a win lol im super not a rover fan btw so an impartial view if you like :) looking forward to the next vid
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. Год назад
The 420GSi wins on looks, Rover nailed the styling.
@ron951
@ron951 Год назад
In 1990 I bought the Austin. Montego rover 1.6 with real wood
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
I like a Monty
@danvitesse
@danvitesse Год назад
The 420 wins it by a long shot in my opinion however i do like Johnny's leather jacket so both of you should settle down and go for a nice pint of Manchester bitter.
@kidcowdy1231
@kidcowdy1231 Год назад
Two ways of looking at this, personally I have always preferred the 75, I get what he says about the interior harking back to the p4 and p5 but that's not classic rover, if you look back to the p4, p5 even the p6 and sd1 they were always state of the art and looking forward and not looking back. In some ways you could argue that the r8 is more rover as it's not Tring to look back in the past.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
That's a very interesting observation
@johnny2scoobs197
@johnny2scoobs197 Год назад
Yes - a good observation. I actually do try to tell people that Rovers of old were highly innovative.
@Simon-ui6db
@Simon-ui6db Год назад
Have a nice run today? Saw you stretching under the bridge in Littleborough this afternoon
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
That's ever-so-slightly stalker-ish 😅
@johnmoruzzi7236
@johnmoruzzi7236 Год назад
The R8 was consistently a best seller in the UK market and did very well to redefine Rover including as a sporting marque, the delayed 75 Tourer was replacing the missing R8 equivalent after Alfa Romeo and BMW had reentered that market.
@paultaylor9652
@paultaylor9652 Год назад
Jonny looks like he once belonged to early 1980's band like Duran Duran 😂. R8 estate for me Paull anytime, the Phoenix Consortium belong in prison.
@owensteele1645
@owensteele1645 Год назад
@8:53 Now that's Volkswageny.
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Yes 😄
@AliMackMechanical
@AliMackMechanical Год назад
I cannot compare them i like both of them 😊 Can I have a project Nigel sticker please 😊I'd like to put it on my old audi a4 avant audi didn't do estate car's 😂😂
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Yes I will happily send you one 😊
@AliMackMechanical
@AliMackMechanical Год назад
@@ProjectNigel I will fb you my address tomorrow when I get a chance thank you
@neilwalsh4058
@neilwalsh4058 Год назад
Both really good cars in their own right , with a rarity that adds extra interest. Had a V6 75 and I was less than impressed TBH, smooth but gutless & very thirsty. Maybe MG Rover should have saved all that development/production cost and bought in the 2 litre 20v Fiat engine? 155 BHP for the 75/Tourer, and 220 BHP turbo version for the ZT/ZT-T , with the added bonus of that incredible 5 cylinder warble.
@GPH2474
@GPH2474 Год назад
Never knew the boot did that
@longman.420
@longman.420 Год назад
🤠
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Who's that?
@longman.420
@longman.420 Год назад
@@ProjectNigel I felt like a change of emoji 👍
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
😆
@ron951
@ron951 Год назад
The rover 420 is better car
@longman.420
@longman.420 Год назад
👍
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
As well 😅
@longman.420
@longman.420 Год назад
@@ProjectNigel i like to remind others to leave a thumbs up, so the cowboy emoji required a follow up
@robertsedgwick1629
@robertsedgwick1629 Год назад
...and the rear door is a different shade of beige😁
@ron951
@ron951 Год назад
The rover 216 has a Honda engine it is a honda civic with real wood
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
Correct
@ron951
@ron951 Год назад
The river 420 is a better car because it has a honda engeine
@ProjectNigel
@ProjectNigel Год назад
The 1.6 was a Honda, but the 2-litre as in this car is Rover's own, and it's fantastic. Honda engines were good but the Rover engine has more torque and better fuel economy.
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