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Rowan Atkinson's EXCELLENT article on why EV = NO. 

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Taken from the Telegraph with Geoff commentary.
PART 1 - THE GENUINE ARTICLE
Rowan Atkinson's Brilliant Article Explained
• Rowan Atkinson's EXCEL...
PART 2 - THE DEBUNK... DEBUNKED
Debunking Simon Evans' Article that attempted to Debunk Mr Atkinson
• Debunking the Debunk -...
PART 3 - PREBUNKING THE DEBUNK OF THE DEBUNK...
Looking back at a 2010 Guardian article that itself debunked Simon Evans' article.
• Fun Friday with Geoff ...
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@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Год назад
PART 1 - THE GENUINE ARTICLE Rowan Atkinson's Brilliant Article Explained ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yiga3atlTRs.html PART 2 - THE DEBUNK... DEBUNKED Debunking Simon Evans' Article that attempted to Debunk Mr Atkinson ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U74P36S5T64.html PART 3 - PREBUNKING THE DEBUNK OF THE DEBUNK... Looking back at a 2010 Guardian article that itself debunked Simon Evans' article. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c-I2IxhEyXs.html
@ehombane
@ehombane Год назад
Yep, common sense. I agree. But some details were forgotten. -Synthetic fuel is three times less efficient than batteries. (maybe twice if we weight the manufacturing also) -In cities synthetic still means fumes. (I personally like to se no cars at all in cities. ) Go fucking underground if you want fast. Sure this mean investment in tunnels. But this will mean no more crossings an waiting at red lights, so faster transit. Also with tunnels there, cables and pipes can have a place there, and be replaced without ruining the roads every decade. -And I forgot something. It is not about electric cars themselves, but about fossils, burning stuff. We know that oil is not infinite, and that is bad burning it. This was promoted since long time ago, I grew up half a century ago with this idea. We knew it, but nobody was doing anything to solve the problem. Eh, almost anything. More filters, less pollution. But the consensus was that burning oil is bad, nobody took the side of oil industry, but we all acted like there is still plenty of time, and is the problem of future generations to solve it. Now, a future generation is here, and started to solve it, but also there is fighting against the transition even meantime the global warming has became an pressing issue. Somebody is feeding bullshit to the public opinion. Like the cobalt and child labor. Come on. why this became so pressing, and nobody raised the issue 50 years ago? it was there back then too! Other bullshit is that there is still plenty of oil and coal. And that there are undiscovered deposits. Sure, we will find for 50 more years, 500 to push it to absurd, but then what? No more fossil to kickstart the renewables and humanity just revert to stone age? There is even an claim that oil is regenerating. Who TF would push this idea? And it hurts me to see smart and educated people repeating it to me. Outraged I dismiss it, and the man admits, Oh, sure, but I want confort. And I want it now, and I want it cheap. Sure, than say that you do not care, not that oil is regenerating. I know that some oil may be generated as was for millions of years, but how many seconds will cover an year of such production at global level? Anyway, the transition costs a lot, and should be made with the money that belong to those who got rich in oil and coal, not with students money. But the rich use their money to make stupid propaganda about how bad are the electric cars and solar panels instead of using the money for research and transition. And this is why electric cars are still expensive and not good enough. So, not buying an electric car, not yet, is just passing the cost of transition to somebody else. Buying a new car at every three years sure has its bad part, but tell me, how many students bought a new car in first year and then another one at graduation? I bet that majority of them bought an used one, and could afford it precisely because those could afford new cars, replaced theirs, and flooded the used car marked, making them cheap. Let assume that suddenly now, everybody stop for two years to buy a new car. in few months the stock of used cars will be gone. The price will hike up, and those just becoming independent today will have to walk, or get a loan for an expensive car. In other words they will finance the transition with a loan. So yeah, common sense. But also common sense is that if you can afford to buy an electric car you should buy it, to finance the transition. Better now, when there is still oil to make the transition smooth. If we wait 50 years, and oil will get scarce than the transition will be a lot more expensive. Sure, will be not us to pay the price. Will be our grandchildren. It is common sense to let our grandchildren pay the price?
@tonyfairey7733
@tonyfairey7733 Год назад
My euro5 diesel car ( which I bought to be eco friendly) is 11 yrs old does 50 MLS per gallon around town 70+ on motorways and nowadays does 3000 MLS a year. That's about as eco friendly as any vehicle can be but will fall foul of the ulez scam. What a scam sad k,* nt is advocating.
@Flyingdutchy33
@Flyingdutchy33 Год назад
I said almost literally word for word the same thing over 10 years ago on the mighty car mods forum. That includes everything said about hydrogen.
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 Год назад
He has exactly the same degree as me. I have work in the electric car industry and I can tell you it’s the real deal. It’s one thing to have a degree. It is entirely another thing to have practice the art and science of the engineering. So sorry, Mr. Bean has not i’m going to give you a thumbs down not because I dislike you. First of all your video is unprofessional, just sitting in a car and reading from a script. Secondly, the person you are using as a credible reference is not really credible. Lots of people have all kinds of college degrees. When I finally went to work, I can say that my college education helped me, but, I was astonished by what I learned in the practice of engineering.
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 Год назад
@@Flyingdutchy33 : hydrogen car in whatever form is not economical. Electric cars are here to stay using battery chemistry, and I don’t want to be a Luddite like you guys. Sad to say, somebody has to play the Fall guy. Thanks for volunteering!
@bme7491
@bme7491 Год назад
I have two Toyotas, one is 21 years old, the other is 12 years old, both running like clocks. I've never felt comfortable getting rid of a perfectly good car.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 5 месяцев назад
Being paid off feels good to boot.
@gillesmatheronpro
@gillesmatheronpro 3 месяца назад
Exhausting perfect combustion gas, probably ? If so, try locking yourself in a garage with the motor running... let's see how long you shall be able to breath "perfectly". 🤔
@bme7491
@bme7491 3 месяца назад
@@gillesmatheronpro yep running perfectly, i.e., like the day they came off the showroom floor. No need to be snarky, mon ami.
@Robin-zf3wx
@Robin-zf3wx 2 месяца назад
I have a 30 year old Vauxhall Cavalier 1.8, which runs perfectly well,is cheap to fuel and maintain and rarely has issues. It is light at 1205kg, which is half that of many EVs and thus reduces wear on brakes and tyres, the pollution from which is frequently ignored.
@bme7491
@bme7491 2 месяца назад
@@Robin-zf3wx Most people don't know that tyres can't be recycled in the normal sense, i.e., broken down into their component materials due to the vulcanizing process.
@martij30
@martij30 Год назад
I've been in the UK for the past 2 weeks and I was stunned by the fact that there's a lot of new (or almost new) cars on the roads. Here in The Netherlands the average car age is around 11 years old and you still see plenty of pre-2000 era cars. Not so in the UK.
@youngwt1
@youngwt1 Год назад
That’s one thing I noticed in Japan when I lived there in 2007, though it’s hard to date the cars since the models are completely different, they all looked newish
@six7529
@six7529 Год назад
Alot of our pre 2000 cars dissapeared after the 2009 scrappage scheme to keep the car industry afloat. They gave people £2k for any old car against a new one
@martij30
@martij30 Год назад
@@six7529 I never knew they did that! That might explain it, thanks for the info.
@notloki3140
@notloki3140 Год назад
Also don't forget that UK and Japan are one of the few countries with a strong economy at least, that drive on the left side of the road, which means most cars will have the the wrong configuration to be viable to export for most emerging markets (that usually import used cars). That means that the prices are lower and the supply often outweighs the demand, and they would be even lower if there wasn't for the people changing their cars every few months like they are bedsheets (something I noticed here in the UK compared to my country) which tends to create a fake economy of sorts (and this applies to everything, electronics etc). Since the economy is better, new cars are still being manufactured, which in turn pushes for schemes and legislation to replenish the existing pool of cars.
@eyesodd
@eyesodd Год назад
​@@martij30 As Six said above, the scrappage scheme or "scam" as I prefer to call it was a travesty for older car lovers. However not all cars got the £2k, it HAD to be road legal with an mot. They also had to be certified with a destruction notice, meaning they were't allowed to be returned to the road. The opposite of what "green" really is. The amount of really rare old cars traded in was staggering. I believe a lot are still being stored in the open rotting away on an airfield, have a little search for them, Porsches, BMWs, Mercs, Morris Minors, all sorts.
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser Год назад
I love my car. It's 11 years old and well maintained. It just can't be replaced now, there's nothing like it on the market any more. I'm hanging on to it for as long as it is feasible.
@darek4488
@darek4488 Год назад
Imagine trying to replace a sedan with a 3.9 V8 twinturbo diesel. Low revving, locomotive torque, makes the eight cylinder noises and barely uses fuel. There is no equivalent on the current car market. The wide adoption of 3-cylinder engines makes you think of motoring in communism. The world in which you are lucky to have a car at all.
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 Год назад
You love it enough to pay $10-15/gal in 5-6 years when an EV costs 1/3rd of what a gas car does today?
@zumamaya2396
@zumamaya2396 Год назад
I have 2 cars a 1991 landcruiser - still going. And a Saab 900s convertible (hasn't been driven for 10 years but kept in garage and should be good after a it of maintenance) I figure I've had less impact over 30 years than most people who've had 4 or 5 cars in the same time.
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser Год назад
@@davefroman4700 In a word “yes”. Liquid fuel will be with us for a long time yet. I’ll pay what it costs, it will still be cheaper than buying an EV (sunk costs of an EV outweigh most if not all extra petrol costs)
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 Год назад
@@MrButtonpresser BS. Ive got 250,000 miles on my Tesla. The only thing Ive had to do is fix a couple of broken trim pieces, tires, and shocks. Even the brakes are like new still. And the battery is still at 92% capacity. It cost me $400 to put a charger in my house. And it costs me 60% less in fuel compared to my Dodge Journey I got rid of. My uncle has one he is using as a taxi in Montreal. And even with being on the super charger twice a day it still lasted almost 380k before he had to replace the battery. Which incidentally cost him $8k and took all of an hour. Its costing him half as much as his Prius used to cost to run. And a Model 3 and Y are now less than the average selling cost of a new car in the US. Some states a Model 3 is $27,500 after rebates.
@sheldonlea
@sheldonlea Год назад
Excellent video Geoff! In Australia, we have a Mercedes ML320 cdi (V6 3.0 diesel) with 280 000kms on it and it runs beautifully because it has been properly maintained. We also have a Hyundai iLoad 2.5 diesel with 275 000 kms and is incredibly driveable, comfortable and economical on long drives. I was raised to look after things I worked hard to own. This practice has saved me a lot of money over the past few decades. I believe that the worldwide automotive industry has, for some time been geared towards high turnover. The "agency model" with many Australian dealers provides very slim profits on the sale of new vehicles. The profits for a dealership today are: - finance - upsell to a swankier model in the range, - fixed price servicing (thereby hoping for customer retention after the warranty runs out) or - -better still, trading in for the latest model. Why this madness these days? Could it be to keep salespeople, service departments and "suits" in jobs? The cars we drive are well made, solid, have many safety features, are relatively inexpensive to maintain and very enjoyable to drive. Best part of all... we own them 100%.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 11 месяцев назад
I doubt that you do - own them. If the model is similar to the UK You are only the registered keeper - responsible for taxes and fines. Ultimately the system owns the vehicle. DYODD
@DorkyThorpy
@DorkyThorpy 10 месяцев назад
Old diesels are OK in rural areas. But I wouldn't make a habit of driving them in towns, as they are really bad for air quality. It not too bad in rural areas, as emission dissipate to safe levels, but in the enclosed street on built up areas, and combined with other vehicles they are not good. I drive a diesel.
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 7 месяцев назад
Whatever the question, 'diesel' is never the answer. They are the most dangerously polluting of all ICEs. If you want to your bit to reduce that problem, ignore EVs (for now), but switch to petrol asap.
@danroux4010
@danroux4010 6 месяцев назад
Parts are another source of revenue for dealers
@davidinkster1296
@davidinkster1296 5 месяцев назад
All to no avail when there is no fuel.
@josephmarsh8235
@josephmarsh8235 Год назад
I'm a massive fan of Rowin Atkinson, and I loved his article! I'm hoping to keep my old car for years and I don't want to replace it really ever.
@Simmo_Cars
@Simmo_Cars Год назад
What car do you have?
@ksavage681
@ksavage681 Год назад
Mine is a 2005. Still rolling.
@freddieparrydrums
@freddieparrydrums Год назад
2006 RS50 here
@celtics2008champs1
@celtics2008champs1 Год назад
How much do you all give to your mechanics to fix your vehicles yearly ?? Bet it is fun doing that....
@randersson3672
@randersson3672 Год назад
Hoping ? Grow a backbone.
@esric50
@esric50 5 месяцев назад
He is Dr Atkinson, and has a Doctorate in Electrical Engineering
@jplacido9999
@jplacido9999 Месяц назад
If he has a doctorate, so he his a doctor, no doubt👍
@demonhighwayman9403
@demonhighwayman9403 Год назад
Mr Atkinson always speaks from a point of logic.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
Ahh - No.
@grahamstevenson1740
@grahamstevenson1740 Год назад
Unfortunately he hasn't the tiniest clue what a 'rare earth' is and is completely WRONG on that point !
@coreybear4829
@coreybear4829 Год назад
Totally agree - push for EVs has nothing to do with care for environment. It’s all about money and control. Billionaires can’t be bothered making products people want they now create propaganda to guilt people and lobby politicians to mandate their products 🤬 My car is 14 years old, I love it more now than I did when I bought it because it’s been so reliable and is exactly what I need.
@hayd7371
@hayd7371 Год назад
@TuataraAggressor With a degree in electrical engineering and a masters in control systems
@sparkymark75
@sparkymark75 Год назад
@@hayd7371 From the 70s and zero experience in the automotive industry.
@WayToManyAssassins
@WayToManyAssassins 7 месяцев назад
Tried posting this article on Facebook and they classed it as "partial false information" unbelievable
@Cheeky-fingers
@Cheeky-fingers Год назад
Us taxi drivers in West Sussex have just been hit with the inevitable bombshell. We received an email saying the consultation/survey has begun to force us into EV's. We will even have to attend a course, at our expense on the benefits of having one. This is going to devastate the industry in my area which has lost around 60% of drivers since Covid-19 and residents are up in arms they can never get a taxi. It is also hurting our town centre pubs and restaurants as numbers are down due to transport problems. Net Zero is rapidly becoming Zero Jobs.
@daddymulk
@daddymulk Год назад
Net Zero means Everything Zero
@ClassicRockRadioEU
@ClassicRockRadioEU Год назад
I think what you will see is similar to what is happening in Manchester where private hire is bypassing our local licencing and regulation by having cars registered in Wolverhampton, I think the safety of passengers comes into the question when the local licencing authority has no jurisdiction over the fleet.
@1966Birger
@1966Birger Год назад
Is the loss of drivers due to low availability of man power after Brexit or is it the pay that is to low? If it is the last, would a higher pay increase the number of taxi drivers?
@Qspecialman
@Qspecialman Год назад
It is so easy, is it not, to introduce new regulations as the people in charge don't have to pay for the changes. Sadly another example of poor government.
@fivish
@fivish Год назад
Benefits of BEV? I cannot think of one and I too have qualified in electrical and electronic engineering as well as IT.
@shonen84
@shonen84 Год назад
Wonderful article. I heartbreakingly had to sell our 1996 Honda Civic because low emission zones rendered it unusable. It had 144k KM on the clock, and ran like a kitten with zero issues in the 20 years it was with us. We always buy sensible 2nd hand cars, drive them frugally, and keep them for over 5 years. While my neighbors are switching cars every 2 years on lease contracts, most BMWs and large SUVs, and amongst whom one just got a Tesla Model Y. Yet to the government, our family would be environmentally less friendly, with a 2011 Hyundai i20 and a 2017 Honda Civic. That makes zero sense.
@M4V3RiCkU235
@M4V3RiCkU235 Год назад
They can`t make all the new cars in the EU (OK somehow UK is still there) electric by 2035! Ok, we got all-electric cars...FREE. THe electric energy is Free. How the F*** are we gonna charge them with the current power infrastructure ?! Will not handle it at all! All the fuses will blow up and all the transformers will be overloaded in a short time! This is simply utopia.
@briank10101
@briank10101 Год назад
Isn't there a car indirectly powered by beans? Surprised RA didn't mention it.
@pninnabokov3734
@pninnabokov3734 Год назад
@@foppo100 I wish more people would see this! But no such luck. The average imbecile who buys EV is all puffed up and virtue-signalling (remember the plan-demic?!), but when you ask them anything about their machine they'll parrot the marketing mantra or they'll stare at you blankly. The "climate crisis' is the next step in returning Western populations to a medieval lifestyle under a techno-Communism. The "capstone event" as it has been called by those behind the agenda was the plan-demic which turned out to be the greatest transfer of wealth in all of history. In any case, I thank you for your comment and we must continue to hammer away at the thick heads that surround us to make them see this crucial fact which they seem incapable of understanding: The elite hate us. Thanks and God Bless!
@ianmcnulty3279
@ianmcnulty3279 Год назад
The fact that is overlooked with EVs is the extra weight and performance producing more pollution from rubber and more wear and tear on the road surface. I think they should pay more road tax I am surprised they haven't banned motor racing yet one formula one race must produce more pollution than a small town of people driving to work and back in their family cars. Just saying. A bit like Theta Grunberge sailing across the Atlantic for a conference in the USA saying it was a carbon 0 footprint but forgetting to tell us that 7 of the crew that sailed over there then flew back on a commercial jet. Would have been a better footprint for her to fly over in the first place
@guyjones9678
@guyjones9678 Год назад
​@ianmcnulty3279 doesn't our government support the War in Ukraine with our money? I wonder what the carbon footprint of that will tot up to? A s£#t ton more than the average family sedan I would wager.
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Год назад
If the solution to a problem is more tax, then you can usually guarantee that the problem does not exist.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Год назад
You know what... I'm pinning this comment. Because you just nailed EVERYTHING in 20 words. Thank you. Oh also, everyone please subscribe if you liked this video. There's plenty more of this style in my 'important videos' playlist. You'll probably learn something, and definitely have a laugh.
@TankEnMate
@TankEnMate Год назад
@@GeoffBuysCars This is not a new tax, drivers already pay this tax through fuel duty. It's just now the tax will need to be collected via a new mechanism; there's no "red diesel" electricity.
@John_Smith100
@John_Smith100 Год назад
Contrary to popular belief, the climate "science" isn't settled. the West is caught between two ideologies, on the one hand GDP and growth line must go up, on the other we must produce and consume less because green.
@TankEnMate
@TankEnMate Год назад
@@John_Smith100 climate science is settled, unless you consider the less than 5% who disagree. Atmospheric CO2 is 33% higher now than in 1970. Any person who has ever owned a greenhouse knows that greenhouses work by making it warmer by trapping heat. CO2 traps heat, anyone who claims that "science" doesn't prove that doesn't understand science. Science doesn't care about ideologies; this is why some people get so upset about science because science doesn't care about whether you agree or how you feel about it.
@markthompson9914
@markthompson9914 Год назад
@@John_Smith100 WOAH there John. U can’t talk common sense on YT, you’ll fry a leftwaffer loons little brain in Silly CON Valley 😂👍✌️🇬🇧
@ConniePretula
@ConniePretula 11 месяцев назад
I have a 1998 Buick Regal with about 191000 km. It was my mom’s and when she passed I kept it. I drive it 4-6 times a month, I keep up with the maintenance. It does not have any rust, paint is still in great shape and the interior still looks brand new. I will drive it as long as I can.
@andrewhotston983
@andrewhotston983 Год назад
The very fact that Rowan Atkinson's article was published shows that things are changing. Reality is kicking in at last.
@luigicorvi1661
@luigicorvi1661 Год назад
THE MEDIA INCLUDING RU-vid ARE STILL CENSORING EVERYONE WHO PUTS THEIR HAND UP TO QUESTION THE CLIMATE RELIGION!
@Encom0
@Encom0 Год назад
As a follow Engineer and classic car owner - Rowan you hit the nail on the head.
@manu.yt25
@manu.yt25 Год назад
Interesting article yeah, even if he didn't really said "EV = NO" tho like in the tittle here, but yeah for the rest his article is disapointing, he might be right about the fact that EVs aren't a perfect solution and it should be obvious to most people now that EVs have also some problematic parts even if they are a great solution to solve most of petrol related problems (air pollution, fossile fuel dependancy, geopolitical dependancy to oil and so on.... as well as reduce by a good chunk the amount of energy wasted for car transportation, given how incredibely efficient EVs are in comparison...). The last part of the article is plain disspointing, quoting hydrogen as a solution while it's more carbon intensive than petrol cars currently when produced from fossile gas, and just a giant waste of electricity when produced from renewable electricity ("green" hydrogen requires 2.4x more electricity per km driven than a battery EV).... and yeah same about synthetic fuels, it's just a scape goat of germans car manufacturers with something unrealistically way to expensive and who will be a niche for elites whop want to drive ICE Porsches and so on.... so yeah. The only part where I fully agree with him is when he says we should avoid using our cars as much as possible, and he's very right here, there's so many problems, especially in cities linked to how everyone use their car alone for anything, it goes from trafic congestion, air pollution, deaths on the road, making cities too hot (too many roads keeping heat, not enough green space and trees) and even the obesity and sedentarity epidemics is rooted to car dependancy, it's really the downfall of our societies, so yeah he's right we should make sure people stop using their car for nothing and we build better public transport and safe pedestrian and biking infrastructure 👍
@terryo5672
@terryo5672 Год назад
As another engineer, I agree. Keep cars longer. Embedded carbon is a large part of overall carbon emitted. Not that I am overly concerned that CO2 is the scale of the problem that is portrayed.
@denzel270
@denzel270 Год назад
agreed and all to the good, but there are still a staggering number of people online that cannot hear anything negative about EV's above their own piety.
@roboknight
@roboknight Год назад
That advice goes with what I tell people about a lot of things: If you don't have to produce it again, you don't need to use double the resources. Recycling always uses energy and in many cases doesn't give you the same product you used the first time (except for glass, aluminum and a few others). Repairing things is always more environmentally friendly. Way to go, Rowan Atkinson. From one engineer to another. I definitely have a lot more respect for him now. Thanks for the video GBC.
@peeteebee123
@peeteebee123 Год назад
Your argument is correct, in my view. But that's an argument against producing ANY new vehicle - EV or otherwise.
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries Год назад
@@peeteebee123 Not any new vehicle, just producing an endless stream of disposable garbage. Make something that will last a lifetime (besides repairs), and the number of things that will need to be produced will be drastically reduced. If it NEEDS to be completely replaced every couple years or so, its garbage from the start. And its often not even recyclable. "Green" = Wasteful.
@peeteebee123
@peeteebee123 Год назад
@@SvendleBerries Absolutely agree. My point was that this is not argument against EVs specifically.
@tycho_m
@tycho_m Год назад
it's funny how people always get nervous when you extrapolate the "double the resources" argument to having children. Doubling your own consumption footprint in an already overburdened planetary system is much more harmful than buying so-called sustainable or repairable products and services. Repairing a product that consists of mined and refined materials is never as environmentally friendly as not buying it in the first place. The most important argument for or against EVs is how renewable the batteries and the energy used to charge them are. More people equals more primary industry equals more destruction of the planet. You, as an engineer, forgot the most circular material, literally requiring scrap "recycling" in the most popular production processes, that is also essential to car manufacturing and building in general: Steel. Steelmaking and the logistic chains required for it are utterly destructive despite the fact that the product is perfectly recyclable.
@ispy3836
@ispy3836 Год назад
Answer = ULEZ the environments enemy.
@kevinwhite981
@kevinwhite981 Год назад
Unfortunately people don't want to keep their car's to long because they're to busy keeping up with the Jones.
@ksavage681
@ksavage681 Год назад
This.
@cornishhh
@cornishhh Год назад
That's true of people who buy new or nearly new cars. Some of us just want the most cost effective transport we can get.
@briz1965
@briz1965 Год назад
It is sad. I'm an insurance broker and see this daily. The fact I gave up driving in 2008 has absolutely NO impression on people. They think I am strange, but then again, don't own a cell-phone or cable. Buy the best top model older car you can find, they make them better.
@angelawerner7696
@angelawerner7696 4 месяца назад
Brilliant points! The insanity of the Canadian government in pouring billions of tax dollars in attracting ev manufacturing and ev battery plants that may be causing unforeseen environmental problems boggles the mind, and one fears the tax payer will be left paying the consequences of a failed paradigm in the future, when these politicians have retired on their generous pensions. The alternatives proposed in Rowan Atkinson’s article ought to be given serious consideration. I especially appreciate your idea of carefully maintaining and keeping cars long term, as a way of making better use of the energy and resources required in producing them.
@skaruts
@skaruts Год назад
It's why I always get scared when government starts taking stands, is that they're almost always unproductive and often detrimental knee-jerk reactions by people who don't really know what they're doing, and are thus not that good at identifying the actual problems, let alone the solutions.
@biddyboy1570
@biddyboy1570 Год назад
Government solutions nearly always involve raising taxes and spending our money.
@varmastiko2908
@varmastiko2908 Год назад
They know the actual problem extremely well. The problem is ignorant masses believing them when they tell their lies about what the problem is. Hint: it's not emissions.
@skaruts
@skaruts Год назад
@@varmastiko2908 no, it is emissions, among other human things. That much has been objectively demonstrated as a fact countless times for over a decade already, and not by people in governments. Carbon signatures leave no room for interpretation or doubt.
@varmastiko2908
@varmastiko2908 Год назад
@@skaruts I'm afraid you don't quite understand how the control system works. The truth is not publicly spoken about and is also a forbidden subject in science institutions. Essentially everyone is bought off because everyone needs to retain their job to pay their bills. And the media system only lets out what their owners allow.
@MrDeepwoodtickles
@MrDeepwoodtickles Год назад
@@skaruts Emissions are much more than what comes out of the tailpipe, Electric has an emissions cost and so does building cars, a car that carries on working for 25 to 30 years has one set of build emissions wheras an EV will last 10 years if you are lucky and 3 will be required in the same timeframe, as the cost of a battery pack will financialy write off EVs prematurely.We need a huge leap forwards in battery technology to make longer lasting (300% longer) batteries before the build emissionms equalise and ofset the tailpipe emissions.We also need to ban massive overweight cars and move back frm SUV types to smaller engined lighter cars, as fuel burnt is directly proportional to mass moved.The thing about vehicle emissions is, most people actualy need a vehicle, wheras we seem to give a free pass to the aviation and cruise industries that facilitate and encourage frivolous unessessary travel for foreign hollidays.Prioritise tha right targets please!
@paulhyde1834
@paulhyde1834 Год назад
Back in the 1960's inner wings and sills would rust through in three or four seasons. But, our 09 plate Vauxhall Astra estate has virtually no rust, due to the fantastic bodywork protection these days. My Dad was toolmaker at the Luton factory and used to say that as long as the bodywork/chassis was sound you could replace mechanical parts indefinitely!! Our Astra has 140,000 miles on the clock and goes like a 'cat over watet'! This also begs the question - 'Who is driving the rush to electric vehicles???' I sense a hidden adgenda...
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Год назад
Dangerously high and illegal levels of air pollution which creates respiratory diseases that cost the tax payer billions
@Jamessansome
@Jamessansome Год назад
There's no conspiracy theory. You can keep your ICE vehicles as long as you want. Most people don't care what they drive and use a car purely to get from A-B with their families and other stuff. On PCP etc which is how nearly all cars are bought now as the fuel costs are significantly less especially when charging at home then the higher monthly cost (due to higher purchase price) isn't an issue. Over the finance term they'll have saved money. So they 'buy' or PCP the EV.
@melvinplant8637
@melvinplant8637 Год назад
There is always a hiddene agenda, like the 15 minute citys keeping people locked up, and have to ask permission to travel, I'll keep my ice car thanks, these EVs, and charging points are not working.
@leobuana7430
@leobuana7430 Год назад
​@@Jamessansomesure,just ingnore blackrock owner admiting he is trying to force culture change with his company
@johno1544
@johno1544 Год назад
It's more about the new steel alloys they use now. They didnt even exist ten years ago
@swaitsysg4415
@swaitsysg4415 Год назад
My already high level of respect for Mr Atkinson has been further raised. If ever there was an unbiased, educated article that made sense on the EV vs ICE debate, that was it.
@sparkymark75
@sparkymark75 Год назад
There was nothing educated about that article whatsoever. It’s the same old tropes that have already been trotted out and debunked.
@robmanueb.
@robmanueb. Год назад
@@sparkymark75 Thank you.
@swaitsysg4415
@swaitsysg4415 Год назад
You're right. What was he thinking? Perhaps he wasn't.
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Год назад
@@sparkymark75greed - it takes a hell of a lot of electricity to create hydrogen. People are moaning about lithium batteries burning but how about compressed hydrogen tank that's probably got to be cryogenically cooled to stop it seeping through the molecular skin of the tank ;) And as for ICE.... they remain only 30% efficient no matter what they burn. While an electric motor is 80% efficient. Why don't factories that run production lines use little petrol engines to drive the lines instead of electric motors :) He concluded with electric propulsion is the future but that was glossed over
@alanwood9804
@alanwood9804 Год назад
@@problemchild1976 A good percentage of diesels are now over 40% efficient, and Weichai Power claims to have broken the 50% barrier!! With EV the Traction motor itself may be over 80% efficient but you ignore how the power gets to the car…. A gas power station is about 50% efficient, coupled with power transmission losses (about 8%) and battery charge/discharge losses (li-ion 10-20%) you are at best about 45% efficient with an EV, and this is ignoring other losses in the system like lugging the additional weight of the heavy batteries…. The reason why factories use electric motors is because they are perfect for this application, and they don’t have to lug around their power source. Batteries are heavy and compared to liquid/chemical fuels not particularly energy dense. I have no issue with EVs but first we need to find a better way to store their fuel!!
@HighDefDude
@HighDefDude 7 месяцев назад
Great video! I totally agree on this.. And, I can add a few things to this issue: I also am an early adopter, with a beautiful Tesla Model S P90D, which I sold a few months ago to go back to the very reliable older Volvo V70. Here is why: At the age of 7.8 years, our Tesla began to create weird noises at the back. Rear drive unit (electric motor) needed to be replaced, which was just within warranty, so no problem. After the necessary surgery, the Tesla performed great, till some two months later: Suddenly a message appeared on the main computer screen: “Car needs service, might not start the next trip!” Other than that, no weird things! It still drove like new! So, back to Tesla Service.. “Yep, Rear Drive unit needs to be replaced!” No warranty! And no: “The warranty on parts does not apply on parts that are renewed inside the warranty of the car!!” So, If something is replaced one day before the end of warranty of the car, and it needs to be replaced again two day’s later, you must pay the bill! 7800 euro’s later, I, for the first time in my life, totally lost the feeling, that the car I bought, actually was ‘MY CAR’, It wasn’t!! These EV’s are constantly in contact with the manufacturer! Which means that It is not you, who determines when you want to go to a service point, no, its them! Call me paranoid, but If I can come up with the thought that they easily can call in a few cars when they need some extra money, than they can come up with that too! The point is, that with conventional cars, the issue mostly is clearly visible, and can be pointed out by service personel, but with electronics its different! On top of that, they will never open modules to replace a tiny cheap resistor, NO WAY! They will force you to buy a new module. Its already happening with ‘conventional’ cars: Example: The newer nice LED tail lights, of which everybody thinks that they will run for a life time. Well, they could easily do that, if not the manufacturers would include unnessesary electronics to make them “work better” And there it is again, they are not going to replace a few LED’s that flipped out, no, it will be a minimal 1500 pounds bill for a new tail light module! That’s why I think, apart from Rowan’s reasons, you should think twice if you are about to buy an EV that will be out of warranty soon! I even did not mention the battery, also full of electronics, if part of it flips out?? Well, lets just say you absolutely won’t be happy when you see the bill! And a car that is able to give you the message that it probably will not start the next time, even if I would be at the grocery store nearby, absolutely will not be my car ! The Tesla gave me a few years of great driving fun, yes there are very good reasons for electric driving, too bad that they are overshadowd by so many negatives !!
@matthewgodwin3050
@matthewgodwin3050 Год назад
The amount of C02 needed for optimum plant growth is 2000 parts per million. A recent scientific study found that the current amount of C02 in the atmosphere is just over 400 parts per million. Once those levels drop to 200 parts per million, the natural world will die off. Now, why would our government want to reduce levels of C02 when they're this low already? And why do the BBC never talk about this?
@matthewgodwin3050
@matthewgodwin3050 Год назад
@@foppo100 You're absolutely right on that. Unfortunately, if you voice those opinions you get labelled a racist antivaxer climate denier conspiracy theorist. Which personally I wear as a badge of honour.
@bjornflood6204
@bjornflood6204 Год назад
Do you perhaps have a link to this study so I can read it.
@flybefree
@flybefree 5 месяцев назад
CO2 doesn’t heat up the atmosphere by trapping heat itself, it changes the chemistry of other molecules within the atmosphere so they trap heat. The problem is that CO2 doesn’t get used up in this process, it can keep doing that forever. The are some natural processes that extract CO2 from the atmosphere, but if the amount that’s added exceeds the amount that’s extracted by a tiny fraction, then that tiny build up of CO2 in the atmosphere will be able to cause a lot of heating. Scientists have determined that as little as 450 ppm could increase global temps by 2 degrees C. In 2018 the CO2 levels in our atmosphere passed 400 ppm for the first time in 800,000 years.
@VirtuousMarine
@VirtuousMarine 10 дней назад
What a load of anti-science rubbish, just a simple search of "optimum CO2 for plant growth" shows you this is wrong
@Quasihamster
@Quasihamster Год назад
Rowan Atkinson is a force to be reckoned with. I can also recommend his speech about freedom of expression. The public sees him mainly as a commedian, but he holds some very strong oppinions that he can pour into words that, if need be, hit like a wrecking ball. I think it's called a jester's license.
@kyuhotae6410
@kyuhotae6410 10 месяцев назад
I agree. I enjoyed reading his article on the freedom of expression and agree that this Cambridge-educated gentleman has a Jester’s License!
@paulreid2223
@paulreid2223 9 месяцев назад
Yep ... and the "jester" has common sense, and a brain to drive it !!!
@JoseLopez-tk4tq
@JoseLopez-tk4tq 7 месяцев назад
I had no idea Rowan studied engineering and electronics!
@paulreid2223
@paulreid2223 7 месяцев назад
@JoseLopez-tk4tq Many people don't - he's a sane analytical mind, and a brilliant comedian to boot !!!
@gweedomurray9923
@gweedomurray9923 6 месяцев назад
@@paulreid2223~ I have seen the Beans and the entire Black Adder series. Knowing he is a man with a scientific bent has caused a new level of admiration and respect in this viewer.
@workinprogresssince1974
@workinprogresssince1974 Год назад
I don't doubt the 3 year lease system was designed purely to keep money flowing to car brands. I've had my car for 11 years now and it's still just as great to drive despite the odd dent and a few scratches thanks to supermarket car parks. If I could keep it for the rest of my life I would.
@briank10101
@briank10101 Год назад
Also older cars, you're less worried about scratches, etc.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 11 месяцев назад
​@@Gary-bz1rfbc we built shocking products. Shocking. Take the Morris Marina. Basically a straight forward use of a design that was penned in 1947 (by Isigonis). Meanwhile the Germans and Italians were all moved onto twin cam engines, independent live geometry suspension and style.
@khankrum1
@khankrum1 5 месяцев назад
Well at least it is unlikely to be stolen, just like my 23 year old 406
@anthonylove457
@anthonylove457 Месяц назад
As a person who averages 80,000 plus klms a year the lease system works well for me, So basically what happens is I trade or sell the vehicle before the depreciation gets to low to which increases by balloon payment at the end of the lease also if my car is worth for example 25k at 190,000 klms when it clicks over to 200,001 its probably worth 10k to 15k that's a huge loss for not many ks yea, Also in Australia as you would know it's great distances from cities to cities so klms ad up real quick so leasing works well here, Cheers.
@briandavies3723
@briandavies3723 6 месяцев назад
Biggest issue is politicians telling us what we need to buy
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork Год назад
My Audi S8 is 23 years old, and I did 500 miles in it last weekend.
@celtics2008champs1
@celtics2008champs1 Год назад
How much do you spend a year on maintenance, considering you drive it daily....I bet a lot....
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork Год назад
@@celtics2008champs1 Last year- not a bean.
@robinclaidlaw
@robinclaidlaw Год назад
A: it may well be true for him, for last year specifically. B: Starter batteries last a lot longer than that in the Uk generally. I’ve heard folks from the US say they needed to change the battery every couple of years but you’d get closer to 10 years in the Uk typically, so it must be something other than vibration that is the issue for you.
@truxton1000
@truxton1000 Год назад
@Enrique A Thiele Solivan Well I bought a classic car 10 years ago, battery was already some years old, I still got that car and the battery is still fine after I guess 13-14 years at least.
@garethonthetube
@garethonthetube 5 месяцев назад
@@robinclaidlaw Probably lives somewhere very hot. Heat kills batteries.
@evoman4434
@evoman4434 Год назад
I run a 2004 Audi A2 now on 258K miles, eco motoring at it's best, no rust to be concerned about with an Aluminium chassis and body, frugal 62mpg long term average and fun to drive. A small footprint and being light and aerodynamic with a three cylinder 1.4 diesel it makes perfect sense.
@bramesque
@bramesque Год назад
Hold on to that A2
@jamesrobert4106
@jamesrobert4106 8 месяцев назад
You could run it for another 50 years and produce less pollution than the manufacture and transport of a single EV battery.
@williamfence566
@williamfence566 Год назад
Spot on . Kept my current car for 8 years ( longest I've kept one for ) . It has full service history, runs impeccably ( honda hybrid ) and I've seen nothing I fancy to change to. EV will be an option for me but only when it makes sense.
@jackbits6397
@jackbits6397 Год назад
I drive a 2014 Prius with almost 200k miles. I plan to buy a 2023 Prius sometime around 2028 haha
@astropythagorean
@astropythagorean Год назад
I average about 1 car every 10 years. Treat them nice and they will repay the favor. Car number 3 is currently 11 years old and still going strong.
@peterlarkin762
@peterlarkin762 Год назад
The only older hybrids i see around here are Honda's. They seem to just keep going.
@kippie80
@kippie80 Год назад
There is not enough energy in elec. to run EV cars for the nation. USA needs 9560 petaJoules of energy to run all the passenger cars per year. A nuclear reactor, large one, makes 17 petaJoules. Math not looking good.
@astropythagorean
@astropythagorean Год назад
​@Jon VB In terms of CO2 emissions, the production of a Tesla class battery is estimated to be about the same as driving a gasoline car for 8 years. This is mostly due to sourcing of raw materials. Also, Tesla's price is partly subsidized by taxpayers. Though this doesn't necessarily make a Tesla a poor choice in all use cases, there are cases where it isn't the best choice.
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 5 месяцев назад
"Keep your old car until you need another" is always good advice. EVs have been brilliant at funneling money to upper-income customers so they can feel smug without making them sacrifice.
@Born_Stellar
@Born_Stellar 4 месяца назад
thats why most new EV sales are giant luxury trucks and not nissan leafs.
@martinheath5947
@martinheath5947 Год назад
It does help when very rich, successful and privileged people begin to understand the catastrophic unfairness in society outside of their own comfort.
@celtics2008champs1
@celtics2008champs1 Год назад
what do you mean by "catastrophic unfairness", people still have choices currently to buy whatever they want, consumers drive the market.
@randersson3672
@randersson3672 Год назад
Fool !
@bobinscotland
@bobinscotland Год назад
@@celtics2008champs1 No we don't... THAT is the point. I can't buy whatever I want as I have no money. I invested what I had in a very good second-hand diesel car a year ago, and it is now NOT ALLOWED in the 4 largest Scottish cities where I did most of my work before being forced to retire this month. So NO... I CAN'T buy whatever I like... I am being forced to buy something I can't afford when I have a perfectly good vehicle which I had planned to use for a few more years. I can't even go back to the dealership where I bought the car to have it serviced as it is in the new zone in Glasgow. At least the dealer recognised this and announced plans to move out of Glasgow this week. The AIR in Glasgow is not polluted... it is NOT killing people... in fact it has improved massively with the removal of the thousands of buses which were replaced by electric ones... THEY CAN AFFORD THAT.... I CAN'T. PS..it is only about ten or twenty years ago that the government ran advertisements to GET PEOPLE INTO DIESELS, so I did. I have paid through the nose for it since, with high fuel tax, constant servicing to keep it friendly, and even paid £500 on road tax when I could afford a better car just 5 years ago. That went with Covid and the lack of support for self-employed, so I bought second-hand to cut my cloth accordingly. ALL THOSE CHOICES NO LONGER EXIST.
@abraxaseyes87
@abraxaseyes87 Год назад
@J Doe customers drive the market is oversimplifying and not considering monopolies and corporate capture.
@ebikescrapper3925
@ebikescrapper3925 Год назад
How is Rowan privileged? Do you know his life story? He is very good at what he does and has been paid well for it.
@NielsHeusinkveld
@NielsHeusinkveld Год назад
Right to repair is also of great importance, where manufacturers should provide diagnostic tools, spare parts and manuals for people and shops to maintain cars for a very long time. Current trends, not just for EV's, are going away from this. Secondly though, I am very skeptical about the new e fuels, I think they still have to cost a lot of energy to make and might not be realistically produced in the quantities required.
@germanmosca
@germanmosca Год назад
eFuels is gonna be something for super rich people. Even if we ever manage to produce enough, it is simply to expensive to produce. And there is not much room for scaling up production, you won't get a liter for under 10 Euro same as hydrogen. Though hydrogen use in cars is extremally stupid anyway, especially if you burn it.... Right now, the planed world wide production of eFuels by 2035 isn't even enough to cover 10% of the yearly needed eFuels in germany, and that is if you limit it's use to commercial use in ships, airplanes and the industry. If we add cars, trucks, busses and trains to that it's even far far less.
@RadeticDaniel
@RadeticDaniel Год назад
The amazing Niels Heusinkveld of SimRacing fame and Jimmy Broadbend long support status =D Nice to see you here and interested in your opinion!
@louissabo3191
@louissabo3191 Год назад
Being in the repair industry, There is a balance of value/cost to repair. And in order to innovate an industry has to have sales of new inventory or capitol.
@NielsHeusinkveld
@NielsHeusinkveld Год назад
@@louissabo3191 yes and that is exactly not the way forward for the environment. I can't see it happening but this really would have to change, along with our sometimes silly consumption habit. I will buy a hat and eat it if there are signs of this happening though. We prefer to pretend to be green after all.
@CJ-ty8sv
@CJ-ty8sv Год назад
@@louissabo3191 That's the thing though, technology and innovation is what got us here in the first place If it wasn't for innovation and technology advancements over the last Century+ of time, we wouldn't have many of the problems we face today. All the advancements do not truly fix anything because often times what they fix, they cause equal and sometimes worse problems elsewhere.
@dawdawes
@dawdawes Год назад
I have a 2015 Ssangyong. My wife said to me would you like a newer vehicle, she was surprised when I said no. Why! Well it's a great tow car, comfortable 40mpg and since I purchased it 3 years ago second hand has only cost me 3 services. 4 new tyres and 2 Mots, what's not to like. Great article as always
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Год назад
Reuse is part of the process. But so is reduce. I feel for people who live in areas with dangerous and illegal levels of pollution caused by vehicles
@dawdawes
@dawdawes Год назад
@@problemchild1976 you can ride or drive whatever you feel is right, I will stick with what I've got because I like it
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Год назад
@@dawdawes even if that is poisoning people in towns?
@dawdawes
@dawdawes Год назад
@@problemchild1976 love to know where you and others get your data from. You have more chance of being knocked down by a bus. I'm going to be honest here. I couldn't care less , you make your own decisions in life. Don't listen to all you read the scare mongers will put you in your grave with all the worry . Live life to the fullest, and stick a finger up to the doo gooders
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Год назад
@@OM617a ah but the last time I looked, there weren't heards of cows or huge ships in towns and cities. Overall global pollution won't even be fixed by banning all cars - that's not what it's about surely
@gar6502
@gar6502 10 месяцев назад
Love the article. Just found your channel. Friends and I have all said the same thing. I am an electronics, control systems and computer Hardware/Software engineer. So I agree with Rowan on these points. I recently replaced my old car, gearbox fault, cost more to replace than the car cost. I didn't want an SUV, everyone has one.. so I got a 2011 E-Class estate. 93k on the clock. It's big it's practical for Family camping trips. It's quiet for a big Diesel well maintained and Immaculate inside. It will last another 10-20 years if it's looked after. Everyone talks about the money saving of EV. But that does not take in the buying as most are long-range EVs are 40-50-60k+ how can it be a cost saving when the monthly amount to buy the car is vastly more than I spend buying and running my older diesel. Even. Factored in Maintenance cost it's cheaper. Environmental friendly fuels are a big step in keeping these great cars going and helping against environmental impact. We need more than just EV cars. If we are really said to be for the environment. The whole ecosystem of cars needs to adapt in new ways.
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 7 месяцев назад
But it's a diesel - the most dangerously polluting of all ICEs. Forget EVs (for now), but please (I speak as a parent) replace it with a petrol car.
@gar6502
@gar6502 7 месяцев назад
@@paulhaynes8045 No. I will not be dictated by you or anyone. So I will keep my car as I like it and I keep very well maintained. So if you took your time and read about the amount of harmful pollutants from the electrical generation plants around the world then you should badger the Energy company's and not motorists which incidentally only contributed 12.6% harmful emissions compared to Global Emissions from Energy and industry of 59.6%. Stop blaming Car drivers and start blaming the real sources of the pollution. All of this information is available if you took the time to research and read about it. So sod off and go hassel them.
@alanc6781
@alanc6781 7 месяцев назад
@@paulhaynes8045 I agree. I will never buy a diesel. I had one once.
@jackscott8931
@jackscott8931 Год назад
Thank you for sharing this fantastic article. I would have never come across it otherwise not having membership of the telegraph. I will certainly be sharing it with friends and can only hope it becomes widespread
@beckyboop3517
@beckyboop3517 Год назад
There are articles written in there which they know that the masses won't ever see or hear because of it being behind a pay wall. I don't pay for it, but just listened to what other's have said having read from it.
@edwardwharton7107
@edwardwharton7107 Год назад
Free on the guardian's site! Amazing that it's in both Torygraph and Grauniad! Literally on Sunday I was droning on about the weight of electric cars at a barbecue. 😂 God bless Mr Atkinson ❤
@petesmitt
@petesmitt Год назад
@@edwardwharton7107 It's not a Telegraph article.. Geoff got it wrong.
@jackscott8931
@jackscott8931 Год назад
@@edwardwharton7107 I realised that after writing! I was happy to be able to read the essay in full on the guardian website
@TheGodpharma
@TheGodpharma Год назад
@@edwardwharton7107 He wrote it in the Guardian. The Telegraph only ran the story because they see it as supporting their anti-EV, anti-net zero agenda.
@densalbeach1
@densalbeach1 Год назад
I bought a second hand Jaguar XJ nearly four years ago, the car is now eight years old. It has been regularly serviced and still runs beautifully. The 3ltr diesel engine gives me up to 54 mpg on a long run. I have no plans to change it as it still puts a huge smile on my face.
@densalbeach1
@densalbeach1 Год назад
Dear Cupid Crack on, the XType is an excellent car and extremely well made. When it farts its last an XF is an ideal replacement. I have had two 3ltr diesels and loved them both. The S is a lot of fun and goes like a stabbed rat!
@duXieduX
@duXieduX Год назад
How much did you have to spend on servicing that car? I BET an ev equivilant will be a fraction
@densalbeach1
@densalbeach1 Год назад
Strangely enough I looked into this, a full service on a Tesla was quoted at £238. This included a tyre rotation, but to my mind it is quite a lot considering the minimal moving parts. My XJ for a full service that included fully synthetic oil, coolant, all filters etc £220 at the independent garage I have been using for years. I considered buying a Tesla but was put off by the build quality, very evident in the shut lines. Pretty sure I'll be sticking with ice rather than ev for the foreseeable future.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Год назад
Jaguars converted to electric are more reliable, run better, perform better and will suffer very few maintenance issues. Jaguar's official best ever performance cars were both electric. The professional test driver that trialled them advised tuning back the performance as they were so quick. They certainly put a smile on his face.
@pieterbalk-ht7kq
@pieterbalk-ht7kq Год назад
They’ll wipe that smile of your face with insanely increasing Diesel prices the coming years.😩🥴
@MarvinBowen
@MarvinBowen Год назад
Still driving the same car I bought 17 years ago. 266k miles. The only repairs to this vehicle I've ever had to do are replacing the belt and two of the wheel bearings. The rest has just been routine maintenance. I'm still on the original clutch though that is nearing its end of life. 2006 Scion xA. 35-40 mpg for daily driving. Highway speeds (70 mph and above) the efficiency drops to around 30 mpg.
@pir869
@pir869 Год назад
I own a 1976 triumph spitfire restored it twice since i bought it almost 30yrs ago.
@aro8000
@aro8000 Год назад
I have a Benz W210 that my father bought in 1998. 2.9 diesel, 6l/100km, and still drives strong. It's nothing special, but spare parts are cheap, easy to repair and will always take me where I want.
@countzero1136
@countzero1136 Год назад
My car is a 2012 Nissan Qashqai diesel 1.5dci, bought used in 2016. It has a super-eco engine with very low emissions (allegedly - as the owner I don't care if Nissan fiddled the emissions figures or not - that's their problem) that means I only have to pay £30 per year in road tax. As both myself and my wife are over 50 we also get cheap insurance to boot and we have no plans to replace it anytime soon. An EV would be of no use at all to us as we live in rural Wales where the charging infrastructure is almost non-existent and we regularly make journeys of 150 miles or more, so most of the time we couldn't complete a round trip without having to spend ages recharging. And of course that's the next big issue that nobody seems to want to talk about - charging times. Even rapid chargers tend to take 20-30 minutes, whereas I can fill the tank and be on my way in less than 3 minutes. Are we going to see miles-long queues at the charging stations? The government simply haven't thought this out properly (no surprise there of course - when do they ever?)
@MarvinBowen
@MarvinBowen Год назад
@@countzero1136 the points you make here have been entirely overlooked. I am from the Southwest US, where sometimes even finding a gas station is a challenge. The market needs to drive the adoption of EVs, not government mandates.
@TheBDD1970
@TheBDD1970 Год назад
Great car!
@alandenison7626
@alandenison7626 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for reading out the article by Rowen Atkinson. I have very similar thoughts, not least on EVs, Hydrogen, synthetic fuels and (outside congested cities) running cars on for as long as is reasonably sensible so giving time for replacement technologies to become commercially available. I have been following JCB's hydrogen engine development with interest and see this as probably the most promising technology for the sort of plant they produce; ie large heavy plant often operating in remote areas on long duty cycles, but also many large trucks, coaches and busses. Not so convinced of hydrogen in domestic cars where I believe synthetic fuel is likely to prove to be the safer and more usable solution, including in many cases over EVs. EVs will still have a place, especially if solid state batteries become a commercially viable solution, most obviously for city runarounds in heavily built up areas. So the future that I see has different technologies dominating use in different types and uses of vehicles. I agree that that future is not here yet, and it still needs much more leadership and support from governments (not just in the UK) to make tgem all viable. There just is not enough drive, enabling and facilitation from the top. And yes CO2 is decidedly a very serious problem, but so are particulates, NOX, and other vehicle related pollutants. (Retired marine engineer)
@gedofgont1006
@gedofgont1006 5 месяцев назад
I can happily endorse everything you've said here, apart from your claim that CO2 is a problem. Please look up Prof William Happer of Princeton university for further details.
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 Год назад
I've been shouting this from the roof tops for so long the greens are creating huge problems for the environment, thanks for bringing this 👍
@mcihs2
@mcihs2 Год назад
Unfortunately it’s not about doing anything that “benefits” our environment, but rather status seeking virtue signalling by the wealthy, who have the bonus of forcing the peasants back to walking…..
@AgileSnowWeasel
@AgileSnowWeasel Год назад
??? 🤡
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Год назад
Does your shouting involve going on about lithium? How's your mobile phone powered. Lithium mining was driven by mobile phones
@daveR0berts
@daveR0berts Год назад
I live in the same village as Rowan and I see him driving a little vw polo 90% of the time. Very sensible with the narrow rough roads and very economical.
@marcelbruinsma
@marcelbruinsma Год назад
It's not about the environment, it's all about money (us, spending it).
@richy69ify
@richy69ify Год назад
yup climate change is a scam to shift money about
@celtics2008champs1
@celtics2008champs1 Год назад
It has A LOT to do with the environment, how does it only have to do with money??
@derykhawkins2199
@derykhawkins2199 Год назад
@@celtics2008champs1 Please wake up, you are in a dream.
@MrEdrftgyuji
@MrEdrftgyuji Год назад
And control. They can easily control the electric grid down to individual houses. Electric cars have a limited range before needing charging overnight. Great for a control-hungry government who doesn't like the idea of its serfs having the ability to travel without their permission.
@livelife7428
@livelife7428 Год назад
​​​@@celtics2008champs1 if it wasn't about money why is there no basic no frills electric car made with a cheap price tag. Like under 10 k. I'm not gonna count quadracycle citroeon ami 8.a useful family hatchback I'm thinking. Thanx for the like. RU-vid not shown it.
@andrewfreeman9437
@andrewfreeman9437 5 месяцев назад
Don't you love millionaires with a history of multiple car usage telling you to buy something second hand, and use it as little as possible?
@anthonylove457
@anthonylove457 Месяц назад
Mate really???????
@snbala
@snbala Год назад
Firstly Geoff, how can you not like Mr Bean? That’s criminal. Rowan Atkinson is a legend, him saying for people to stick with their older cars and don’t change to an EV makes him even bigger of a legend.
@axeman2638
@axeman2638 Год назад
He'd be a real legend if he called out this climate crisis crap for the complete bullshit it is.
@ksavage681
@ksavage681 Год назад
He's not saying no, just to not be in such a rush to switch. Keep your old car going.
@Mk1Laser
@Mk1Laser Год назад
He isn't saying no to EVs; he is saying you should not have one!
@cornishhh
@cornishhh Год назад
I generally like Rowan Atkinson but I find Mr Bean annoying.
@jamesjackson3666
@jamesjackson3666 Год назад
Lol Mr bean is so unfunny it's tragic,however rowan is a legend
@Soundwave1of9
@Soundwave1of9 Год назад
The crime is also putting that behind a paywall. Rowan should publish that everywhere.
@nekite1
@nekite1 Год назад
The article was also in the Guardian which is not behind a paywall.
@petesmitt
@petesmitt Год назад
It's not behind a paywall.. it's a Guardian article, not Telegraph; Geoff got it wrong.
@Soundwave1of9
@Soundwave1of9 Год назад
@@petesmitt great!
@davidb6403
@davidb6403 6 месяцев назад
@@nekite1 and it was debunked within weeks
@bjrnericwang2093
@bjrnericwang2093 Год назад
Geoff you're right on point about the longevity of cars. I've noticed that they design cars nowadays with style and not robustness in mind. You can still find cars from 80's and 90's in more or less impeccable condition on the road today. Cars from that era seems almost everlasting as long as you keep the rust in check.
@TheFredmac
@TheFredmac Год назад
The industry is not about selling cars it's about keeping investors. You can't maintain growth with a shrinking population and a shrinking economy by building durable products.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 Год назад
'90's cars or '90's style cars are the best. '80's were good but I think by the '90's the car had reached perfection. Since then all they've done is try to make them cheaper without making them worse. They are making them worse but you don't find that out for 3 years.
@j3ffn4v4rr0
@j3ffn4v4rr0 Год назад
I had a '97 Subaru Legacy with almost 330K miles on it...ran great up until Thursday, when somebody totaled it hitting me on the freeway 😭
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 Год назад
@@j3ffn4v4rr0 Yeah and the insurance company value it at net zero. It was practically an antique.
@Nicksonian
@Nicksonian Год назад
Geoff is right on? This is just a guy ripping off a newspaper article. It’s not Geoff, it’s Rowan Atkinson.
@hoastbeef1202
@hoastbeef1202 5 месяцев назад
I love how they are trying to "ban" gas powered cars. Imagine telling that to someone who works minimum wage, who drives a reliable 1999 Honda Civic that they will have to get rid of their *perfectly fine and functional* car and get this...BUY A BRAND NEW ELECTRIC for $30K, just because the powers that be want to fight climate change.
@martinroberts4391
@martinroberts4391 Год назад
Love this article, I've always had a massive problem with the new car culture that the UK has. I've been saying since the government announced no new ICE cars from 2030 it's either gonna be pushed back or we will start to see less new EV car sales and much older petrol and diesel cars on the road.
@blingbling574
@blingbling574 Год назад
That “climate crisis” narrative dates back to the 70’s. That narrative is going to keep being kicked down the political road.
@nathansmith7153
@nathansmith7153 Год назад
Thanks for trashing the planet
@jrandall5995
@jrandall5995 Год назад
Hooray a very notable person on our side, I but we won't see Rowan on the BBC
@virtual-adam
@virtual-adam Год назад
Problem is a lot of new cars are starting to need work after only a few years, expensive trips to the dealer for fault finding that cannot be done at home as you need expensive custom scan tools for it. They don't want you to keep it on the road, they want it scrapped and you buying a new one.
@justinstewart3248
@justinstewart3248 Год назад
Lol…man you guys and always having these conspiracy theories. A grand group of “they”, always out to get us. You don’t have to change ever. But EVs are here to stay and getting better every single year.
@djgate
@djgate Год назад
My EV a BMW i3 is now 7 years old and not one problem in that time. Before this in 2012 bought a Leaf electric but sold it after two years and purchased a plug in Hybrid Ampera which was sold to a neighbour after two years, She is still running it every day with no problems. My i3 a 2016 is still providing the same range as when initially purchased with no problems. For those who are weary of garages I suggest buying an inexpensive scan tool, plug it into the diagnostic socket and if not capable of troubleshooting yourself at least you will be able to communicate with the dealer.
@griffenthedog
@griffenthedog Год назад
the replies to you highlight the 'always an exception...' but you are right. i have 30 yr old cars- motorbikes twice that. ie my 94 mitsi mirage has very little to go wrong. in nz it is punished by needing a wof- [warrant of fitness-] twice yearly, where everything possible is done to get her off the road; while a new car has a gratis 5 years of wof free- assumed safe. repair costs after a new car fender-bender are massaged thru the roof- with insurance writing off eminently repairable & safe cars in a blink. we have been rear ended twice- left with perfectly driveable mechanically sound cars- taken off us by insurance with enough compensation to buy a pedal tricycle- because a crumple zone in the rear subframe has a small buckle. is there an agenda? of course there bloody is.
@virtual-adam
@virtual-adam Год назад
@@justinstewart3248 in 2017 the Volkswagen group had to pay a criminal fine of $2.8 billion for cheating the emissions tests. Is it too far a stretch to imagine they may be a little self serving in making their cars? Seems like a healthy suspicion to me. Plastic inlet manifolds surely are about profit over durability. EV's are here to stay, what's not to like about a car with way less parts to go wrong. But probably better to wait till the technology has matured a bit more and they can be made with less impact on the environment. BTW ''they' are out to get me, they told me so on the mothership 😵‍💫
@virtual-adam
@virtual-adam Год назад
@@griffenthedog That's what I hate about insurance pay-outs, never enough to replace the car.
@lee4171
@lee4171 6 месяцев назад
3 car family here. 06 Honda Civic 2.2tdi. 06 S2000GT. 2011 Focus 1.6tdi. I service them myself and they cost each year £50 for the mot and maybe a £100 job. Had them, 15 years, 13 years and 8 years respectively. I chuckle when I see the sheep replace and brag every 3 years. Bless em.
@briz1965
@briz1965 Год назад
Glad to see Rowan going to the effort of pointing out what options are. I've worked in the medium to high voltage industry, it's not always what is best but is long term economically sound and sustaining. We have a lot more coal than the precious elements, just saying. A rude awakening awaits.
@trashmail8
@trashmail8 Год назад
But all burning all that coal ain't so great for the quality of air that we breath. It's directly responsible for literally thousands of early deaths and millions of people with health issues every single year. Regardless of what one thinks of the climate impact and how inefficient combustion engines are. 2/3's of your energy input (and thus your money) goes right out via the radiator.. it's crazy.
@edwardgatter4610
@edwardgatter4610 Год назад
The fuel density of batteries is the big problem for plant machinery and large agricultural machines. JCB made a 20 t excavator that required 8000kg of batteries which gave only about 5 to 6 hours use. John Deere tractors came up against the same problem but then built a computerised electric cable system and just plugged it into the convenient wall outlet at the edge of the field….this is not a joke by the way👍😋
@bigjd2k
@bigjd2k Год назад
Surely we could do the same with aeroplanes, they just need a long extension lead 😂
@edwardgatter4610
@edwardgatter4610 Год назад
@@bigjd2k well done!!!!…I can’t see any problems with that at all… and then of course there’s cable operated tanks for environmentally friendly carbon neutral warfare…on a foggy day of war how could you possibly find them with those whisper quiet motors….
@zbyszanna
@zbyszanna Год назад
Both volume and mass of batteries decrease with each year so those problems will solve themselves with time. If we take Tesla Semi as an example, it offers moving 80 thousands LBS at the distance of 500 miles and the batteries are estimated to be below 1 MWh which would make it at most 10 times bigger than Model S battery so it would be about 5 tonnes. And this will only improve with time, as it has been doing for years now.
@thesheepman220
@thesheepman220 Год назад
@@bigjd2kLMFHO brilliant comment 😂
@jamingaming9251
@jamingaming9251 Год назад
Electric is great for vehicles that can be plugged in all the time like trains or trams.
@Paul-pb3vq
@Paul-pb3vq Год назад
I keep my cars as long as they don't start costing me lots of money to keep on the road. My current vehicle is 12 years old. Still going strong. Since I bought it new I've spent about £1200 on repairs. Not including servicing. That's cheap Motoring in my mind. And no plans to change in the near future. Great video.
@AgileSnowWeasel
@AgileSnowWeasel Год назад
Nobody who drives under 10-20k miles a year should be considering a new EV, or a new car of any sort, to be honest. Some will, because of the neighbours, or the wife's demands. The real issue is that people who are in the second hand market have a budget. There aren't a lot of second hand EVs, and those there are are not in that budget. So ICE cars are the only option right now for the majority of car owners looking for a new second-hand car. That includes me, a high earner who doesn't drive a lot. Why throw away money on a driveway decoration! But I can only pick from what's available. In 2030, there will be a lot of second hand EVs on the market. New EVs will be far more mature too, better batteries, longer range, cheaper. An 8 year old second hand EV should be within the budget of more people. In addition, most cities will probably have banned (by 2nd generation ULEZ rules) most ICE cars, or be in the process of banning them, forcing those people to EVs. Current ULEZ bans are just for more polluting ICE cars. This is for valid air quality reasons within the cities. This is when the transition to EVs will be very mature. Right now it's still a transition, and for many people that transition isn't mature enough for their needs - valid or not.
@Paul-pb3vq
@Paul-pb3vq Год назад
@@p80t5turbo Yes I had a friend with a volvo estate that had done nearly 300.000 miles when I used to see him. Never had one but good cars.
@janverbanck
@janverbanck 5 месяцев назад
It's starting to get common knowledge that an average EV has to do about 36.000 km before it's "more ecological" than a ICE...Regarding hydrogen: it's tricky stuff when not handled properly. Much more dangerous than e.g. LPG due to a much larger explosion range in air. Very skilled and conscious people are required to maintain any application with hydrogen. And a final personal note: as long as hardline environmentalists shout above everyone else (including those full of common sense) and politicians in general are afraid of damaging their reputation by opposing them, nothing will change the way we're heading...
@noelpipkin8980
@noelpipkin8980 Год назад
I had a 230E Merc for 21 years and a Toyota Hilux for 17 years and sold both in working order. Currently I have a 16 y/0 Honda and a 17 y/o Toyota which are in good working order and requiring little expenditure other than normal servicing and fuel. The engines in all are easily recycled because they made of metals whereas batteries are more costly to recycle and leave a lot of non-recyclable waste. I agree with RA there are less polluting alternatives without scrapping ICE vehicles.
@penglim224
@penglim224 Год назад
Had my first car in 1989 and used it for 30 years. Overhauled the engine twice. The car ran an average of 24k kilometres per year. Love the car, no problem. Perhaps, I had an exceptionally good mechanic.
@tomkeegan3782
@tomkeegan3782 Год назад
What sort of car was it?
@penglim224
@penglim224 Год назад
@@tomkeegan3782 proton saga 1989-2019 stop using because of covid-19.
@penglim224
@penglim224 Год назад
@@tomkeegan3782 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Saga Sorry, i do not know much about car.
@dzerres
@dzerres Год назад
yes, as long as you managed not to breath in the exhaust fumes over 30 years of driving. Can you imagine how many 55 gal drums that would be - leaking in a warehouse or being spilled onto pristine beach or floating in a hundreds of miles of open ocean. Wake me up the first time a solar panel or a EV battery fouls a beach for the next 20 years.
@tcrookes2803
@tcrookes2803 Год назад
Stan Meyer invented an engine that ran on water but mysteriously died after meeting oil owners.
@billytollerton4220
@billytollerton4220 Год назад
Yeah I remember that from many years ago.
@frankieer8322
@frankieer8322 Год назад
He did. They should make a film with ruwen as Stan.
@zbyszanna
@zbyszanna Год назад
There is no engine that runs on water that is a net producer of energy. It can use water, but it also needs another power source to perform electrolysis and the whole engine consumes power instead of generating it.
@peterwilson8039
@peterwilson8039 Год назад
Hydrogen combusts with oxygen to make water. There is no way to chemically liberate energy from combustion of water. You can however make an engine that runs on equine fecal matter.
@dubchile
@dubchile Год назад
Yes, that was hushed up pretty smartly at the time. I for one am still plotted firmly on the fence and not totally convinced about CO2 being Public Enemy no. 1, but Beanie made some great common-sensical points nonetheless. Once agin, nice one Geoffrey! 👍🏻😎
@blacksheep6888
@blacksheep6888 4 месяца назад
My Toyota Hilux is a 1999 model and done nearly four hundred thousand kilometres on the clock still going strong
@richiereverb
@richiereverb Год назад
Growing up in New Zealand , in the 50's and 60's not many could afford a new car. We kept them going for 20 - 30 years no problem. My first car in 1966 , was a little 1938 Ford 8. That was 8 HP not 8 cylinders. Previously owned by a mechanic , it was in great shape.
@trentonarney6066
@trentonarney6066 Год назад
I still have my granfathers and my father's 73 and 74 Ford F series. Till 4 years ago they were still on road. My current ones are a 2001 Chevy 1500 with 350000 miles that is just our farm use now and a 2001 suvaru legacy.
@robertjones3613
@robertjones3613 Год назад
I remember my Dad buying a new Standard 10 in the late 1950's. The "10" also referred to the hp. Great little car. Regular journeys Nairobi to Mombasa return.
@davidboskett5581
@davidboskett5581 Год назад
In the 50's and 60's the problem was less to do with the cost of a new car but the governments import controls restricting the number made here.And in those days cars had to be imported in parts and assembled here. Unless you had a source of overseas funds for the deposit it was very difficult to get on the waiting list.Dealers used to give priority to people like farmers who might also buy a tractor from them -it was all very unfair.I bought a new Ford Anglia with overseas funds in 1964 and sold it for the same price in 1967 when I went overseas. The system kept the price artificially high . But the first car I bought in NZ was 1961 a !955 model Austin ute but it was a rust bucket 2 years later .
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Год назад
We could make our cars last 30 years if we wanted to. We just decided people need to change instead of fixing their car.
@Motumatai3
@Motumatai3 11 месяцев назад
Yep, in NZ my first car was my grand fathers car...which when he died became my fathers car...which when I turned 15 became my car. ......50 years later my current car is a 30 year old Nissan Patrol. Will most probably still be going come the Zombie apocalypse
@fukawa3614
@fukawa3614 Год назад
私は日本人です。TOYOTAの方向性は世界中には認められていないというような報道が日本国内では横行していますが、海外の著名人がこういった方向性で賛同を示してくれることを快く、とてもありがたいと思っています。Mr.Atkinsonさんとともにチャンネル運営されているGeoff Buys Carsさんに感謝をささげます。
@fredjames9867
@fredjames9867 Год назад
Even if it happens there still going to bill you by the mile
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Год назад
And that's the 3rd video that was filmed today...
@BlackLines
@BlackLines Год назад
I'd sooner get billed by the mile than have to pay £300 VED for a project car I do maybe 100 miles a year in. Seems the fairest solution to bill based on usage - seems like a no brainer to add a little bit to fuel. But then again, that would cost them some revenue from people like me...
@levelcrossing150
@levelcrossing150 Год назад
Cashcow.
@WhiteDieselShed
@WhiteDieselShed Год назад
@@BlackLines You think that until the cost per mile increases to more than it costs to take a taxi. Government need a new fleet of armoured NON ULEZ compliant RangeRovers and Limo's because the old ones are getting dirty.. Lets double the cost per mile to pay for those and let's forget to drop the price once the vehicles are paid for? Of course those that fix the costs will be exempt from paying them.
@AgileSnowWeasel
@AgileSnowWeasel Год назад
@@BlackLines you're correct that a VED replacement that bills on usage would be far fairer than the current system where an old ICE car incurs a high cost, even if it's barely used, and a new highly-used 'efficient' car is barely charged, despite emitting tyre particulates still, wearing the road (batteries are heavier, but lorries still do the majority of damage). There can still be an emissions multiplier on the per-mile usage.
@PieterWigboldus
@PieterWigboldus 4 месяца назад
Good point, driven my precies car 9 years, and driven in these years from 150.000km to 350.000km. (diesel) My current car bought with 170.000km, now 4 years later on 270.000km (petrol) Hope i can drive it even longer than my previous. Best is to fall in love of your car, marriage with it, care technically and visual, keep it nice, repair what is needed, even if it is visual only. Keep the car that you keep looking to it. And you can drive it for many years.
@RichieRouge206
@RichieRouge206 Год назад
Have been a huge fan of Rowan from his Not The Nine o' Clock News days. He speak so much intelligent sense. I've always said the same - keeping older, good order cars on the roads is far less polluting and not the CO2 monsters that green agenda want us to believe. Great video Geoff
@nbartlett6538
@nbartlett6538 Год назад
The "green agenda", whatever and whoever you think that is, does NOT want you to buy a massive new CO2 monster car every couple of years, whether it's EV or ICE. This is Rowan Atkinson's point, not an anti-environmentalist one.
@stighaaland5357
@stighaaland5357 Год назад
Thei air is so much cleaner in the cities in Norway after alot of people have changed to EV now.
@paulruffy8389
@paulruffy8389 Год назад
Intelligence doesn't make you an expert in all fields. His views are extremely uneducated. Batteries are recyclable, one company is even making conversion kits for ICE fiat 500s. We need to rethink transport for sure, so EVs are not a panacea, but we absolutely must stop burning stuff. NOW.
@Silvermachine7
@Silvermachine7 Год назад
@@stighaaland5357 The air may be cleaner in Norway but the polution caused during the production of the EV's/batteries is left behind for the people of China to condend with. EV's may be good options for our local enviroments but they are not good for the planet as a whole, we are simply exporting our pollution to another country!
@leobuana7430
@leobuana7430 Год назад
​​​​@@11235but the answer is "no", because even the people who do the recycling projects admit it's much "easier" to make a new one,it's in the same situation with solar panel
@janelester6477
@janelester6477 Год назад
Thanks again Geoff for this and all your other videos - common sense
@philrogers2406
@philrogers2406 Год назад
Geoff my car is a 1995 Diesel Mercedes 220. It is cleaner than all the modern Diesels I've had on the MOT check. It paid it's carbon footprint off years ago. Phil from Droitwich
@benhockley
@benhockley Год назад
How can an ICE vehicle "pay off" a carbon footprint, if it emits more carbon every time you drive it?
@sneekeruk
@sneekeruk Год назад
@@benhockley Because around half of the carbon footprint is during production, The rest is from driving it, so the more you drive it the lower the percentage is from actually making the car in the first place. for example, if my car takes 50 tonnes of carbon footprint to make, and makes 5 tonnes a year driving it, in 10 years your at 50/50 emission from driving it, then you buy another car, which is another 50 tonnes used. Keep the car for 20 years Ive produced 100 tonnes of emmisions, so its now 33/66 emissions, and the making of the car has less of an effect, and also Ive not added another 50 tonnes of making another car in that timeframe.
@gmo4250
@gmo4250 Год назад
@@sneekeruk Regardless, you cannot “pay back” the carbon footprint. At no point will an ice ever go into reverse emissions and neither will an ev ever “pay back” the production footprint.
@truxton1000
@truxton1000 Год назад
@@benhockley Well if you replace that old car with a brand new electric you will then own something that has already produced an enormous carbon footprint, whilst driving the old car will just release small amounts every year compared. New electric cars are not the best quality, loads of problems with all sorts of things, the result is that no one can probably afford to keep them going once the warranty is out. Resulting in a very short lifecycle, most batteries will have died within 10 years which is quit bad as producing a new battery will release a huge carbon footprint once again, I could go on.
@benhockley
@benhockley Год назад
@@truxton1000 Yeah, you could go on, as you've clearly missed my point and have driven off a cliff. My four year old car is electric, with 45,000km, and no battery or mechanical issues, and it paid off its slightly higher carbon footprint ages ago, and will continue to do so as I'm fortunate my rental has solar.
@jerryoliver7963
@jerryoliver7963 5 месяцев назад
Great video and information. I completely agree with Roman Atkinson’s assertions and have drawn very similar conclusions myself. The key point to remember and include is the total ‘embedded energy’ from source materials to manufacturing to disposal.
@Rowtheboat99
@Rowtheboat99 Год назад
Totally agree with him. Keeping vehicles for longer is the most environmentally friendly option. The 3 year lease model is designed to generate activity in the used vehicle market.
@germanmosca
@germanmosca Год назад
The lease model is a wish of the car companies. Makes them a lot more money.
@CJ-ty8sv
@CJ-ty8sv Год назад
@@germanmosca And it makes the Govt.'s lots of money too because of taxes... Manufactures makes more money and thus they pay more taxes.. The Govt.'s want them making as much money as they can because if they make money, so does the Govt...
@elliottwhitticar2383
@elliottwhitticar2383 Год назад
Can someone please explain how keeping the original lessee driving a car for years four and five makes a bit of difference for the environment? Surely cars coming off lease in the UK are not melted down for scrap right away. Someone will be driving that car in years four, five, fifteen, etc. until the car is not worth repairing any longer. Can't see how the initial lease term makes any difference in how long a car is on the road. Of course longer leases are a consumer-friendly option and should cost less than three year leases, but that is a different argument. Also, synthetic fuels have been pursued for decades and have not replaced gasoline, so holding them up as an alternative to technologies that are useful today is a bit of a red herring. I wonder if Mr. Atkinson's article was intended more as humor than as an engineering review?
@StuartBpPce
@StuartBpPce Год назад
​@@elliottwhitticar2383Yes, I was thinking the same things while I was watching this. Plus the wind + water + CO2 pie in the sky tech just needs "more development" is eerily similar to fusion.
@headstashmusic3897
@headstashmusic3897 Год назад
Im pretty sure when a person gets a new vehicle they sell the old one to someone else.
@shuhel02
@shuhel02 Год назад
In the IT industry, we refer to extending the life of equipment as 'sweating assets'. Best thing ever.
@jonesynezza
@jonesynezza Год назад
This was in the Guardian so no paywall, anyone can read it. Today the Guardian also published a rebuttal of Rowan Atkinson’s piece and I wonder if you’ll cover that in the same way?
@HATCHETHAS
@HATCHETHAS Год назад
I read the rebuttal and some good points challenged but it was funny how the guy from Carbon Brief correctly says no rare earth metals are used in the batteries but conviently "forgets" to mention they are used in the electric motors!
@patagualianmostly7437
@patagualianmostly7437 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sytWLB4-W-M.html&ab_channel=TheCarGuys.TV
@sjsomething4936
@sjsomething4936 Год назад
I’ll have to look for the rebuttal article. No disrespect to Geoff or Rowan but there’s a lot of misrepresentations or incorrect information stated here. For one, mandating battery recycling reduces the energy needed to produce a new battery by about 80%, and current recycling technologies are able to recover about 85% or more of the original material. The point about battery vehicles being used then set aside earlier in the history of the automobile is completely irrelevant and a red herring. Given that mentality, there’s thousands of technologies that we would not be enjoying today because you know… technology *advances*. Materials science advances from 1990 to current day are like night and day, batteries continue to charge faster and hold more charge per unit volume. The Porsche synth-fuel is interesting, but likely to cost around triple what gas / petrol currently costs, possibly only double at large scale production. However, it’s an incredibly inefficient way to produce fuel, I’d have to look up the numbers but I believe only around 20% of the input energy becomes fuel. Whereas using the electrical output to directly charge an EV would result in above 80% of the input energy being used by the vehicle. Furthermore, people cannot produce their own synthetic fuel, unlike rooftop solar which allows consumers to literally power their own cars, requiring no complex production processes or distribution networks to deliver to consumers. Finally hydrogen, which is a non-starter unless it can be made into some other form, such as mixed into a gel that can be used by vehicles. Hydrogen embrittlement of metal containers, valves etc. is a huge problem if attempting to scale to what exists today for regular consumer motoring, not to mention the danger of explosion. It seems Rowan is neglecting to consider the maturation curve that any technology undergoes when it finally becomes mainstream (for EVs and their dramatic improvements over the last decade). Hydrogen *could* play a significant role in decarbonizing large fleet transport such as trucking, ocean freighters and even possibly air travel, but I believe it won’t be cost effective for non-commercial motorists. The one part of this post I wholeheartedly agree with is that vehicles should not be disposable as we treat them nowadays. Not sure how to change that mentality without trampling on people’s rights, but there’s a large contingent of people who simply have to have the latest and greatest car (or insert consumer product here) and that behaviour is difficult to change.
@sultanoftippoo3857
@sultanoftippoo3857 Год назад
@@sjsomething4936 well even though production costs for synthetic fuel will tumble massively as the technology matures, even if it’s triple what current petrol costs are today we’ll be paying roughly the same as we are now given the tax on fuel (certainly here in the UK) until recently was 75%. Factor in the cost of having to manufacture 1.5 billion new EV’s (@ 9 tons of CO2 to build each one) and it’s obvious going the EV route makes no sense vs. developing synthetic fuel and keeping old ICE cars on the road where the CO2 cost for them was sunk years ago.
@brothertonwing4554
@brothertonwing4554 Год назад
​@Jon VB the LFP batteries are mainly for the China market and entry level vehicles. All of the extended range batteries are cobalt based due to higher energy density. "The company also notes that in the coming years, its absolute cobalt demand will increase, because the production growth of batteries and vehicles is forecasted to outpace the overall rate of cobalt reduction on a per-cell basis." Lithium and nickel mining is energy intensive and bad for the environment. If we are to attain Musk's goal of universal EV ownership and use of Tesla batteries for power grid storage, it would require more lithium than the human race has mined in the last century.
@AndreInThe416
@AndreInThe416 5 месяцев назад
There are a lot of issues with this accelerated forced adoption. Rarely, if ever, has anyone outlined most of them.
@just_passing_through
@just_passing_through Год назад
I purchased my car, an MX-5, in 2003. Hoping to keep it for another 20 years.
@mikebetts2046
@mikebetts2046 Год назад
And here I am, as a degreed electrical engineer, designing and programming machine automation systems, just now learning that Mr Bean is not only funnier than I am, but he could also take my job. Time to start upping my game.
@Simon-390
@Simon-390 Год назад
Hi Geoff , now if you could get an interview with Rowen that would be a vid I would pay to watch . He is also bang on with free speech to .
@DaveBates-w9n
@DaveBates-w9n 11 месяцев назад
Hi Geoff, I've enjoyed your take on modern motoring & the threats to take away our freedom of travel. I'm from Lincolnshire but have lived in Brasil for many years. Synthetic fuels are the way forwards whilst still using the proven tec of the piston engine. Back in the 70's here in Brasil they decided with the fuel crises that growing fuel was the way forward. Alcohol from sugar production is available at all service stations at nearly half the price of petrol. All the major car manufacturers here give the same warranty on dual fuel cars. You can mix petrol & Alchol together & the only downside with Alcohol is that it needs a small washer bottle type container under the bonnets that you put a little petrol to start the car on cold days or if living in high altitude. This is done automatically. Technically i guess this isn't fossil fuel , because it's a renewable source & I've been told 3 crops per year. Ps this product also keeps the farmers happy 😅 .
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 7 месяцев назад
But where is all this extra requirement for sugar grown? On land 'reclaimed' from the rain forest, perhaps? No 'solution' is cost/problem free, I'm afraid.
@DaveBates-w9n
@DaveBates-w9n 7 месяцев назад
@paulhaynes8045 The amazon area represents a small fraction of land available in Brazil, there's no requirement in Brazil to have extra need of the Amazonian land , The French have an Interest there , & busy logging huge areas, don't believe all you here on the BBC ' s of the world, The climate in Brasil can produce 3 crops of sugar cane per year, & solves a good percentage of fuels for cars. Without using oil.
@kilohotel6750
@kilohotel6750 Год назад
He makes a lot of great points and hopefully more people besides yourself share it to help inform everyone. First video of your I’ve seen, I’ll check out the F1 videos later I’m a sucker for anything F1 related, it’s my wet dream car.
@fenderfetish
@fenderfetish Год назад
ewww.....
@derekga6973
@derekga6973 Год назад
Some PR company will release an article that totally debunks that one and it will get a hundred times more exposure that what we’re up shainst
@brianhoward9217
@brianhoward9217 Год назад
GREAT video, all makes sense. Some common sense for a change in the EV universe. Thank you! Cheers from Sydney Australia.
@cttommy73
@cttommy73 5 месяцев назад
EVs were always a scam. Not the concept or idea, but the execution. Just like an undercooked chicken, it could have done with an extra 10 more minutes in the oven. Who knew. Oh wait, everyone who wasn't trying to greenwash things.
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 Год назад
Brilliant perspective. My older Benzes fit the "older, perfectly running" economically sensible model. Miles are at 260,000 on 2000 e320 wagon. And 190,000 on 2002 ML500. Plus I ride my Suzuki motorcycle most of the time in good weather. The wagon when needed & the ML as a Truck / Tow rig. Keeping older well maintained vehicles for decades is the ULTIMATE form of Green Recycling.
@aaron___6014
@aaron___6014 Год назад
Motorcycles are not economical. Everything wears faster and the fuel economy isnt much better than an efficient car. Smaller footprint though.
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 Год назад
@@aaron___6014 Too many variables to be sure. What did motorcycle cost ? You can get used bikes very very cheaply & ride them for a LONG time & many miles with extremely low maintenance cost. So, yes they are & can be extremely efficient. Maybe a stupid extravagant motorcycle can be WAY worse cost wise vs a simple cheap car. Like a newish Harley Gas Pig 🐖 Bike vs manual tranny Corolla, Civic, Sentra etc. Those latter will get same or better mpg, cost less & haul more, proving your point. Another reason Harleys are the stupidest thing on 2 wheels ! I wouldn't own one on a dare. My Suzuki is light years a more reliable, practical, fun and economically viable bike vs a Harley - the latter being image & ego machines almost exclusively.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Год назад
Electric cars achieve these mileages and much more and will require far less maintenance in the process. An electric motor fed by a battery is just a more efficient and reliable system. By the way, among the highest performing street bikes in the world are all electric models. The fastest street legal production motorbike is the electric Voxan Wattman (283mph). The 420mph petrol Dodge Tomahawk is faster but, it's not street legal. It's more like a car squeezed into a motorbike silouhette. It actually runs off of a car engine. Just saying.
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 Год назад
@@trevorberridge6079 Agreed to much of that. In city & short range trips, impressive. (Imho, kinda Soulless vs Gas engines). The downsides that are not currently overcomable: - High Cost - Massive pollution to manufacture battery & Lithium - Poor range & no long distance touring capability (I go 500 miles a day, uninterrupted, no EV bike can) (On a used $2500 Suzuki Burgman no less) - Very little organic consumer demand (governments shill for & fund with Tax Dollars) and subsidized prices hide true cost of EV anything. So no your case falls apart under a tiny bit of critical scrutiny. Don't get me wrong, God allows us ALL LIBERTY & so do I. I'll NEVER ask you to pay for my Gas fueled Motorcycle Tours. Please return the favor by NOT asking me, to pay Taxes extracted forcibly to fund YOUR EV motorcycle endeavors. Fair enough ?
@alexmeechan306
@alexmeechan306 Год назад
That’s why I want my old Merc C250TD to survive!
@iainweller452
@iainweller452 Год назад
Great article with good advice, thanks for sharing, it’s something I’d probably never see without you help 👍
@SandraOrtmann1976
@SandraOrtmann1976 5 месяцев назад
Well, we own two over ten year old Subarus. Both petrol-driven. We looked thoroughly into the pros and cons of EVs. However, as we live in a rural area of Germany, we decided these are no option for us. However, we looked at the entire picture, not only what comes out of an EV's rear end. We decided at least as long as what comes out of the socket is not really green energy, the whole thing is a joke to us anyway. We are also not too convinced by the fact that usually you control an EV via a to us somewhat unsafe touchscreen. Not only the vital functions, but also comfort functions such as climate control and such. We watched several videos of people just driving, and they have to take their eyes off the road far too often for our liking. Also, living in Germany, we often read that some companies who provide the electric power admitted that our network is already at its limits. But the government says "Nah, it will be fine". So who do I trust more in this case? The government? Good joke. In that regard, we also often ask ourselves "People have not even really started jumping on EVs. What if they do? The lights will probably go out and the electric supply will go down. Then the answer to this from the government will most likely be "Ups, we had a bit of miscalculation from our side. We just tell the plugged-in EVs not to charge, then it will be fine. Because with wallboxes, we can do that."" Great. What a perspective.
@DeanBateman
@DeanBateman Год назад
Id like to see cars that can be upgraded, swapping of brake systems, engine upgrades, software and sensor packages, a modular design car would enable us to upgrade and keep cars relevant for longer. this will enable to keep the car and update it to suit the current tech
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA Год назад
thios is already possible with many popular car brands as they have a huge aftermarket one being LS vehicles as you can always swap a older or new ls type engine in it incuding the very brand new ultra eco type engines. plus put in your own super charger or turbo etc diffrent bodystyles as you can change the body kit to whatever the hell you want.
@DeanBateman
@DeanBateman Год назад
@@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA That's fine for individual cases and car enthusiasts, but i am talking more of a wide spread industry adoption that can make it easy for non car enthusiasts or every day people to be able to purchase an off the shelf upgrade and have it professionally installed, just as if you were to upgrade a PC with a new graphics card, we do not need to throw out the whole PC to get better graphics.
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA Год назад
@@DeanBateman Thats technically already available just not by the manufacturer
@DeanBateman
@DeanBateman Год назад
@@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA it probably is already available but not offically supported, companies like audi, vw, skoda share the same parts so why cant they offically be made available to allow for cars to be used for longer as well as been safer and more fuel efficient. at the moment if you were to upgrade the infotainment system in a golf, you need to research the hardware, then turn on features in the software (coding) this is all out of reach for the everyday person. but i agree it is very much do able currently hence why dont they make it a feature, it is a lot more sustainable for the planet.
@jonathanwyn-beer3827
@jonathanwyn-beer3827 Год назад
It's a good idea but that puts huge onus on the manufacturers to do full risk management on all the possible interactions of multiple various systems including making the vehicle's software management systems cross-conpatible for all the options. They may have to try and prove all the various combinations through crash/safety testing etc. I suspect it's just way more effort than manufacturers will likely see a return for.
@superchickenlips1
@superchickenlips1 Год назад
Something to note with JCB; not only have they come up with a hydrogen ICE, but they can convert any existing diesel vehicle to hydrogen in just a couple of days. Their hydrogen engine uses a regular diesel bottom end, and JCB put their hydrogen head on it. I saw a video where they took a 12.5t truck and converted it.
@Banyan314
@Banyan314 Год назад
Hydrogen has a very long way to go before it can be considered a viable alternative to fossil fuels. A very, very long way. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-egTCIyNBpQw.html
@CrusaderSports250
@CrusaderSports250 Год назад
The head conversion basically lowers the compression ratio and has a spark plug in place of an injector, kinda sounds like a petrol engine that we used to convert to LPG, could our petrol engines be converted?, now there a thought!!.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli Год назад
Hydrogen is stupid for so many reasons , do look it up
@SRB28
@SRB28 Год назад
problem with Hydrogen is Iridium and Platinum. It is also highly inefficient.
@JamesAlexander14
@JamesAlexander14 Год назад
@@SRB28 Problem with Lithium and Cobalt is that you have to destroy the ecology of the planet, to make the environment clean. Ironic or just plain stupid? Anyway, the whole green thing is a complete money making gimmick and only a certain percentage of the global population will ever benefit financially. As for Third World Countries, well it is hardly going to do anything for them as a good 3 billion don’t have a decent means to cook their food let alone buy an electric car. Never mind, we can always revert to slaughtering every animal on the planet which burps and farts its way through life. That should cure the problem eh?
@alivekicking6247
@alivekicking6247 Год назад
So spot on! I always keep my cars a minimum of 5 years and look after them. Car 1 was my dad's Renault 11 hand me down. Loved it. Car 2 was a second hand TVR 350i. Had both 5 years. Car 3 was an e30 BMW 318 (rubbish so sold it quickly). Then I replaced the TVR with a Caterham 7, which I had about 5 years. Eventually I bought a new Leon Cupra R in 2002... I had that 14 years and did 180k on it. Then I bought a mk2 Leon Cupra. Had it for 6 years. Now I'm 49 and recently bought a low mileage 2018 Leon Cupra 300. 300bhp. Amazing to drive and on a long run on a light throttle, I get 47mpg!!!!!! Wow! Bring on synthetic fuels and down with the awful EV abomination.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 11 месяцев назад
And more driving pleasure than a soulless EV. Win Win
@doru10922
@doru10922 8 месяцев назад
They should let people pick their mind petrol, hybrid, diesel, EV
@loydireyes5054
@loydireyes5054 5 месяцев назад
back in the day, the same whining was heard when horses & carriages are being prohibited from using highways & major streets, to give way for the new king of the road - the petrol cars. Fast forward to the future, No matter how much youve become inlove with intenal combustion vehicles, the times are changing (again). And theres no stopping it. EVs are here to stay.
@alivekicking6247
@alivekicking6247 5 месяцев назад
@loydireyes5054 I was just thinking the other day that weird EVers keep saying this. It's a rubbish comparison. It's more like the difference between a shire horse and cart and normal horse and cart. It's nothing like the difference between horse and cart and petrol car! That makes EVs sound like some wonderful new invention, which they most certainly ARE NOT. In fact, they tried EVs back then and realised they were rubbish, even then. EVs are dying a slow death that is speeding up day by day. The more people realise they are excrement, the more people don't buy them. There is not one single good reason to buy an EV. Mark my words, and remember I said this: 10 years from now, in 2034, EVs would have died a death a long time ago. Look into it. People are even developing combustion engines that run on water now, and also hydrogen combustion engines, not to mention synthetic fuel. Anything is better than a car powered by a BATTERY! The battery power is the issue.
@loydireyes5054
@loydireyes5054 5 месяцев назад
​@@alivekicking6247 thank you for the heads up. honestly, im not too sure if we are still here in 10 yrs time :) i mean i do pray for your health & mine. if battery is the problem, well, theres an infinite ways to kill a cat, or to address the issue. the main idea here is to move away from oil cartel & combusting fossil fuel. maybe at the very least we can have a combustion engine of hydrogen but not directly connected to the drive train, instead it charges a smaller battery pack (just an example). the100+ yr old technology of combustion engine directly pushing the drive train is inefficient & obsolete. and more than 3/4 of the cars functionality is already electric! therefore electric motors powering the wheels torque is the way to go. of course you can keep your beloved ice vehicles to your hearts content. after all its a free world.
@robinmuirhead2617
@robinmuirhead2617 6 месяцев назад
500kg of Lithium Batteries inside every EV is like driving about with 10,000 Fireworks beneath you ready to Explode on Impact! Unbelievable Stupidity putting these Dangerous Explosive Contraptions on our roads. How on Earth was this allowed to happen? 🧐
@susanlane8803
@susanlane8803 Год назад
This confirms what I have always thought, we change our cars far too soon, if maintained properly and looked after most cars will last 20 years. My car is 17 years old from new, we have looked after it and replaced bit's that wear out as they do. It passes it's MOT every year without having any work done on it and has 125,000 miles on the clock. It's pure vanity to change your car for the sake of it, to have the latest model, and the environmental cost is absolutely enormous when cars are scrapped for ridiculous reasons. Car manufactures want you to spend out on new cars, so they make them difficult to repair when something simple goes wrong, thus righting the car off for insurance reasons!
@MrWolfen
@MrWolfen Год назад
My dad had a GMC truck he flipped it to zero 3 million miles on it before he traded it in for a newer GMC.
@MrCoreyCoreyCorey
@MrCoreyCoreyCorey Год назад
2004 Corolla, 2002 BMW, both still running. I do my own work. I'd like to change the Corolla, but it's long paid for and there's no need. Spend my money on more fun stuff for the family.
@joebaird5874
@joebaird5874 Год назад
My Suzuki Grand Vitara is 18yo and still going strong. Love it.
@dadawoodslife
@dadawoodslife Год назад
Over 20 years ago I worked on the production line at ERF Sandbach fitting electronics to trucks with Detriot engines that were fuelled from hydrogen cylinders. They were being built for a supermarket chain as they avoided the congestion charge. I often wonder what happened to them.
@cadmdh5282
@cadmdh5282 Год назад
they probably were boiught and shut down by Conoco... I have seen it in a similar case 25 years ago.
@DrRusty5
@DrRusty5 Год назад
I elect that they couldn't make Hydrogen cheap enough or in sufficient quantity?
@joelcarson4602
@joelcarson4602 Год назад
The expensive, complex fuel tanks become unsafe after a few years (around five years or so) and have to be replaced, which is also very labor intensive, because the tanks are shielded from the outside world and impacts inside the vehicle structure itself. Hydrogen atoms are incredibly small, and infiltrate and compromise the molecular structure of the tanks. Hydrogen is not going to be the answer because of this problem alone.
@dadawoodslife
@dadawoodslife Год назад
@@joelcarson4602 these trucks used a rack of standard BOC gas cylinders mounted behind the cab. No refueling station required, the prime mover just sent to. BOC depot and swapped bottles. Couldn't do that in a car, there isn't the height to stand up a bottle and you can't lay them down and use them. Bit like an West Australian plumber, who are normally identified by the oxygen and acetylene bottles strapped to there back of their Ute cab.
@namAlexander
@namAlexander Год назад
Rowan nailed it with that article
@zbyszanna
@zbyszanna Год назад
No he didn't, he just repeated all the myths and misconceptions about electric cars. He doesn't even understand that most of the CO2 is produced during the usage of the car and not during the production. If someone doesn't acknowledge at least that, you can be sure they don't know what they are talking about.
@andypicken7848
@andypicken7848 Год назад
I DO NOT think he nailed it. He made some general points about the benefit of recycling (by re using) but overall the article was simply negative with little understanding of how technologies evolve.
@AgileSnowWeasel
@AgileSnowWeasel Год назад
@@zbyszanna Yes, but the content was very comforting for people who don't like change. Which is why so many are liking it.
@namAlexander
@namAlexander Год назад
Some butt hurt comments, you can’t believe what the car salesman tells you some people can’t take facts lol, oh and some councils are thinking of banning ev from multi story car parks due to the weight of cars combined, won’t surprise me if there taxed higher also due too road wear, for recycling the infrastructure is not even there too recycle solar panels as that’s getting a problem now.
@jbbuzzable
@jbbuzzable Год назад
The only environmental impact to be considered should be cradle to grave.
@Angiebaby71
@Angiebaby71 5 месяцев назад
‘They’ don’t want to consider any other things because that’s not the end game- the end game is to electrify everything- that’s the route to direct control - that’s why gas and oil etc are on the hit list because you can’t ’switch’ off remotely a gas/ oil ch home or a petrol/diesel car- price the public out of the cars and those that are left can be controlled from a distance in those battery powered cars- remove gas/oil ch from homes and impose electric heating only and hey presto, it becomes controllable remotely. I am surprised that the car manufacturers aren’t pushing back harder because ultimately, if the powers that shouldn’t be get their way, their industry will be over🤷‍♀️
@NinjaRunningWild
@NinjaRunningWild Год назад
Kudos for reading exactly what is displayed. It's annoying when people have one thing on the screen & are saying something else. I always have to pause to read it, making it a jolting & frustrating experience. Also, interesting & poignant article & your car is in great shape. Double kudos for it being a manual. I’ll definitely watch your video on the F1. Best car ever made & the one car I would “marry”.
@fatfreddyscoat7564
@fatfreddyscoat7564 Год назад
Watch a video on running an F1 and the sheer cost of doing so even if it never moves, and you’ll change your mind!
@robi4387
@robi4387 Год назад
@@fatfreddyscoat7564 Cost of marrying.
@Levy3o8
@Levy3o8 Год назад
In my opinion, a lot of people get tired of their cars after a while, because to most people, they're just something to get from A to B, and they happened to like their car more than other ones at time of purchase (maybe a better price, or better design). After they have it for a while, they just simply get tired of it, and when the repairs make an appearance, they decide that rather than fixing their suspension or sinking over a grand into repairing the engines, they'd rather use that repair money for a down payment and get something newer and shinier and looks more modern. My solution: find something in your budget that you can get passionate about and will want to keep for ages. Obviously that only really works if you're an auto enthusiast to begin with.
@hufficag
@hufficag Год назад
I agree. Decide in your teens if you like a VW or a Subaru or Toyota, buy a car and stick with it for life.
@votpavel
@votpavel Год назад
i got rid of cars and love riding a motorcycle
@danieloneil2473
@danieloneil2473 Год назад
You are singing my song friend! I have owned 3 cars in my life, all were Mustangs. My current steed is 10 years old and taken care of. I'll drive it until the wheels fall off, then put the wheels back on and drive it further!
@phocia
@phocia Год назад
Its not about protecting the planet, its about asserting control over the populace.
@sueplummer-x4k
@sueplummer-x4k 6 месяцев назад
I will never by a EVshit box
@davidoxley6117
@davidoxley6117 Год назад
Brilliant. I would agree with every word. I've had the same car for more than a decade and it is still excellent, reliable and hugely enjoyable to use. So to Rowan and your good self I send a huge 👍👍
@tatradak9781
@tatradak9781 Год назад
He is infact totally wrong..
@sultanoftippoo3857
@sultanoftippoo3857 Год назад
@@tatradak9781 assume you own an EV? Thank you for trying to do the right thing but synthetic fuel now means we don’t need to manufacture 1.5billion new cars so although your white elephant EV won’t be worth much in the future that is the price one pays for being an early adopter of new technology sometimes.
@tatradak9781
@tatradak9781 Год назад
@@sultanoftippoo3857synthetic fuel hahhaha you honestly haven't got a clue.. Don't worry about the facts as it will hurt your brain.. Just troll away to your hearts content. SAD
@estradaarmory
@estradaarmory Год назад
Mr. Atkinson makes perfect sense, he's a true car guy but sadly underrated.
@Conserpov
@Conserpov Год назад
He didn't dare call a spade a spade though, even though he alluded to it: "environmentalism" is a grift.
@BruceHoult
@BruceHoult Год назад
He makes perfect sense, except on two points. 1) hydrogen is a dead end. It has very low energy density (poor range) and is very polluting to make. Also very hard to keep it inside tanks and pipes. Synthetic petrol or simply ethanol or methanol or methane make much more sense -- as long as we don't make then from FOOD. 2) while it is indeed a stupid financial decision for the first owner of a car to sell it after two or three years, this has *zero* effect on the environment, as long as SOMEONE buys and uses that car rather than scrapping it. I usually buy cars with 80,000 to 100,000 km on them and keep them for 150,000 to 200,000 more km. I tend to buy motorcycles new, but I've owned my current road/touring bike since October 2015 (almost 28 years) and it's done 130,000 km.
@estradaarmory
@estradaarmory Год назад
@@BruceHoult I'm not an expert on hydrogen by any means, but I think there are many reasons to keep exploring and engineering in that segment. About your second point, it does make sense IF people keep the cars they buy for longer, and not replace it with a newer one. The 3yr lease model makes for a high turnover, which leads to high production numbers because of demand. If the demand would slow down (people keeping their cars longer), production numbers would slow down and with it all the pollution it creates for the manufacturing of said cars. But people can twist and turn it as they like, fact is that all these insane regulations only affect the western world. Our older cars will still go to 3rd world countries who don't care about pollution. We slow down while they ramp up. Same with energy. The western world is doomed to go full electric because it's a feel good thing, yet we can't even supply the electricity needed to power all this. Same people who want to go green are also against nuclear power plants. So again, we reduce pollution, while we purchase energy from other countries, who in order to meet the demand have to ramp up production, and with it -> pollution. Makes no sense to me, there's got to be a common-sense middle ground here. But too many politicians, and a handful of select businesspeople, are becoming too wealthy by implementing such nonsensical rules and regulations, so be prepared to hear about it for longer.
@THX2012
@THX2012 Год назад
Excellent video! I have kept my BMW for 20 years but only because I can make my own repairs. High repairs costs push people to trade in for a new car. I have considered the Tesla Y as my next car but this article does make some good points.
@captainLoknar
@captainLoknar Год назад
Same. I love my BMW. Nothing like it anymore. And just for weekend trips it's perfect. I tried to sell it but people are interested in huge SUVs which are inexplicably HYBRID or electric mincars. Sensible sedans are out. Nope! People want a " crossover " (aka a car that can do nothing well) which has 20 inch wide door panels so the outside looks big, tons of electronic features you'll only use once before it breaks just after warranty, etc..
@----.__
@----.__ Год назад
@@captainLoknar I moved to the UK not long ago and picked up a great 1 Series for £1400! It's great, runs very well, and with the back seats down I can load my downhill bike in the back and go anywhere in the country. My bike cost 6x what the car is worth, but that's pretty typical for this hobby! Nice bike, cheap car :)
@captainLoknar
@captainLoknar Год назад
@@----.__ exactly the same. I can put two bikes in my 335i and it's a real struggle on "bigger" new cars because the boot opening is ridiculous and other details are missed. I listed 15 things I like about my BMW. But I'm also moving to a right-driving country so my canadian car is not practical here. Can't find any buyers like you except for less than 7000$ although I put 20,000$ on it. A lot of private used cars are a great deal. Usually people selling them because they want an EV lol
@----.__
@----.__ Год назад
@@captainLoknar 335i's are great cars, you'll be sad to see it go no doubt. My last two cars have been ridiculously cheep and I've never been happier. I had a 60k car in Australia and I used to stress every time I went shopping, but with a £1400 car I really don't care what happens to it. It's a freedom I never expected, and I highly recommend it. I had a Jag as my last cheap car and gave it to my cousin when they fell on hard times. I don't think I'll ever spend more than 5k on a car again if I can help it, I'd much rather put the money in to property. Nice to meet you mate, have a great weekend coming up.
@grahamf695
@grahamf695 Год назад
Have a test drive in an i4. It’s a terrific car. It drives beautifully, has astonishing acceleration and this summer I’m getting over 300 miles of range on long trips.
@freestylers5563
@freestylers5563 2 месяца назад
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS - MY BROTHER GEOFF !!!...........OBRIGAGO !!! **
@tuningemporium
@tuningemporium Год назад
If only more people knew the actual facts about electric car production 🤦‍♂️. Great video content 👍👍
@AgileSnowWeasel
@AgileSnowWeasel Год назад
Shame the article doesn't have any facts in it.
@venataciamoon2789
@venataciamoon2789 Год назад
And wind turbines. To make those, cost more on the environment than they will ever help.
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Год назад
Making bio-ethanol using algae that feeds of co2 and lives in big lakes still needs the product to be refined in expensive and complex facilities. Plus burning the fuels still produce harmful gases and bio-ethanol has 30% less energy density than petrol so you need to burn 30% more to do the same miles
@trashmail8
@trashmail8 Год назад
If they knew, they would know that it isn't perfect, but definitely LESS worse. Look at the research done by e.g. Auke Hoekstra, director of energy transition research at the Eindhoven University of Technology. In a paper published in 2020, Mr. Hoekstra writes that batteries will most likely last more than 500,000 kilometers, or 310,000 miles; that research shows gasoline and diesel pollute more than previously thought; and that the energy needed to create batteries has already declined while electricity production from renewable sources is growing.
@2bilko
@2bilko Год назад
Atkinson is wrong If an EV is run on electricity from renewable sources the total emissions over its lifetime is a fraction of an ICE one. EG www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths Synthetic fuel, if it ever happens, will be very expensive and inefficient
@Two-StrokeLife
@Two-StrokeLife Год назад
My daily around the town car is a 51 year old Ford Courier pickup (made by Mazda). It has been meticulously maintained and with a very well tuned aftermarket Weber carburetor I average 23 mpg.
@kenhanson1819
@kenhanson1819 Год назад
Great video! I knew Rowan was into cars, but didn't know he had a degree in electrical engineering. I had the same vehicle for the last 20 years. A 2003 Toyota Tundra pickup truck. I recently had to buy a new car for a few reasons. One was that my mechanic told me it just passed inspection this year, but wouldn't next year due to corrosion in the frame. The other was it started leaking oil out of the rear differential case. Toyota designed it with a welded on differential cover, instead of making them removable by being bolted on. Therefore the cost to fix it is far more than the worth of the truck. Still, I can't complain, considering it's got 275,000 miles on it and the engine still runs strong. My new truck is a 2023 Honda Ridgeline. I love the truck, but it's got too much electronic nonsense in it that is useless and so I turned it off.
@Landfill-703
@Landfill-703 Год назад
Try changing the diff oil and adding a rubber seal rejuvenating liquid like ATP-AT205 Re-Seal. A very cheap option and could work.
@dubstatic
@dubstatic Год назад
same here, ran toyota hulux for 23years no issues, but getting a bit rusty so just got a diesel Landcruiser which should see me out...
@kenhanson1819
@kenhanson1819 Год назад
@@Landfill-703 my mechanic drained the diff oil and attempted to seal the leak with JB Weld. It worked for a few months, but then started leaking again.
@Landfill-703
@Landfill-703 Год назад
@@kenhanson1819 if it’s still possible to do Ken I’d try ATP-AT205, it’s regarded as the best, unless we’re too late and the vehicle has gone and/or the seals were beyond saving ? When I do gearbox, diffs, transfer boxes oil change, (still to add to an engine ), I add the recommended amount to catch the tired rubber seals 'before' they leak.
@kenhanson1819
@kenhanson1819 Год назад
@@Landfill-703 it's not the seals that are leaking. It's the metal differential cover, which has corroded over the last 20 years to the point that small pinholes developed and oil is leaking out. Since the cover is welded on at the factory, it's not removeable or replaceable. Bad idea on Toyota's part.
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