The RTX 4080 Super is good. I've been bought once in the last few days. But intended to go for a RTX 4070 Ti Super instead. The 200€ overprice for the 4080 Super had made my change. She runs smoothly, and cool in QHD and UHD, with or not RT. In the game 🎮 Alan Wake 2 I tested some scenes in the wood. Wit RT on and off. There was better detailed and separate Sun ☀️ Ray's with RT on. With RT off they shine more in a bunch and not singles. AMD launched a new upscaler. In his new Adrenaline Driver. Called HypR-RX. It's merge FSR 3.1 with AFMF. They're constantly improving. They made one big step in less power consumption, at RDNA-3 compared to the older RDNA-2. But failed a little bit, in RayTraycing performance. Nevertheless the actual Radeon GPUs run better RT than the last Generation. We must consider, that NVIDIA has one Generation more experience than AMD. So if we compare this RDNA-3 with the last Ampere Gen of NVIDIA, we could see the similar performance. And in many cases the better running.
If you turn on DLSS 3.5 or RT then that becomes 50-80fps. But RT is still a meme and AMD does have FSR3 which is decent. So yes not worth the extra $1000
@@aye796 that's for sure and that's the reality since the past 20 years, or even more. 80% are programed to run shape at NVIDIA GPUs. They couldn't run so properly on AMD Radeon GPUs. Like they smoothly did on NVIDIA GeForce Graphics cards. Many people just forget this very important detail. I can show one very nice example. The game 🎮 Far Cry 6 is running better and faster on AMD Radeon GPUs then on NVIDIA GeForce Graphics cards. The simple fact is that's this game 🎮 is one of the few available at the market, who are developed to run smoothly at AMD Hardware.
The 7900XTX is priced (it's actually cheaper) to compete with the 4080...not even the 4080 Super lol. If people are stupid enough to spend $2000 on a video card, then I guess they deserve that extra 10%-15% performance for literally twice the price Edit: And lets not forget the fact that HALF the 4090s out there are melting, and the sellers are refusing to replace or fix them.
@@melanodawido But who knows that's Raytracing was one Graphical feature in the 90ies too. So it isn't one new invention of Nvidia's Boss Jensen. He just remembered the good old days. And we remember he did swallow the competitor Voodoo. With her magnificent 3DFX GPUs. Assimilated theres inventions, and made them features of Nvidia exclusive. That's really not a fair play. But when did this greedy company plaid fair. The only thing they wants is to expand and be the greatest showman on the whole Planet. Maybe 🤔 he has just ignore or forgotten the Aliens 👾👽. Do like playing 3D 🎮🕹️ games 😁 too. What for technical capacities they must have. I saw several videos 📸 about UFOs intervention on Atomic Silo's. In the 60ies and 70ies they visited some of them in the US. And made all electrical 3 way protected wires goes off. The lights for the Silo's went from green to red. This meant no control any more. NORAD command asked the president what they should do. Cuz loosing the control about unclear 🔫 weapons is a great threatening. What if Russia would attack in this moment the US. They literally couldn't reply. Well it's was one advise of the friendly green E-TS. Do never plan to use this mass destruction weapons. It's not only a simply weapon. It's the total mass destruction 😞😮 on earth 🌎.
I placed an order for a custom built PC today and these two will be my GPU and CPU, couple with 32Gig DDR5, 6,000Mhz RAM. Can't wait to get it! AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Processor FUTURE PROOF THAT SHIT!
Nvidia: 'we'll give you a few more frames and a hotter GPU for a grand!' AMD: 'we'll give you a better price and a cooler GPU.' Seems like a no-brainer to me. 😅😅
взял бы карту 4080 за 1000 баксов и потерял бы 10-15% фпс, но получил бы RT и DLSS. это мой личный и осознанный выбор. а глядя на продажи амд и нвидиа, то со мной солидарны многие люди. а может быть мы жертвы маркетологов
4080 хороша. Главная претензия к нгридии - они ставят в карточки за 500-600 баксов 12 гигов видеопамяти. А в 2022 они меня на*бали с 3070ти которую в то время я купил за 1000$ и 8гигов видеопамяти которой мне хватило без претензий буквально на полгода. Ннннннахер они идут со своей политикой.
The RTX 4080 Super is good. I've been bought once in the last few days. But intended to go for a RTX 4070 Ti Super instead. The 200€ overprice for the 4080 Super had made my change. She runs smoothly, and cool in QHD and UHD, with or not RT. In the game 🎮 Alan Wake 2 I tested some scenes in the wood. Wit RT on and off. There was better detailed and separate Sun ☀️ Ray's with RT on. With RT off they shine more in a bunch and less singles. AMD launched a new upscaler. In his new Adrenaline Driver. Called HypR-RX. It's merge FSR 3.1 with AFMF. They're constantly improving. AMD Radeon made one big step in less power consumption, at RDNA-3 compared to the older RDNA-2. But failed a little bit, in RayTraycing performance. Nevertheless the actual Radeon GPUs run better RT than the last Generation. We must consider, that NVIDIA has one Generation more experience than AMD. So if we compare this RDNA-3 with the last Ampere Gen of NVIDIA, we could see the similar performance. And in many cases the better running.
it was always like this, you had mid-tier card and a high end that was at least +50% in price, but only 10-20% more performance. same here, if you want this 20-70% uplift (yes up to 70% in some games), you wont pay 20% extra, and also not 50... you pay 100% extra a bad comparison but, when you buy a bmw with 200HP and no extras you pay for example 40k as soon as you have extras and only 100HP more, you pay 80k....
I assume you are using raw power, without Dlls, FSR and all that rescaling and frame generation technology... (I assume)... That would be a real HARDWARE test...
No le veo ningún sentido a pagar este pastizal (1000$ más) por un aumento inferior al 20%. Pero los gamers insaciables ya sabemos el cómo se las gastan !!! Vamos, que como Nvidia saque el marcado una RTX 4095 con un 5% más de rendimiento por 3000$, ESOS LOCOS SE VAN A LANZAR A POR ELLA !!! Todo sea por subir un fotograma !!!
La 4090 si solo buscas jugar pues no es lo mas indicado , es también para productividad sin llegar al absurdo precio que tienen las tarjetas profesionales . Para únicamente jugar si quieres irte a lo "top" con una 4080 ya juegas al max y es mucho mas barata. Igualmente si te lo puedes permitir pues la 4090 es una burrada y le sacaría bastante mas a la 7900 xtx simplemente activando RT y demás tecnologías. Pero aquí han medido rendimiento en bruto y encima en una resolución que ni toca.
@@Lizbeth_Moon mui Bueno hermanos ibéricos. Soy Português. E no ló falo mucho espagnol. Mas yo me gusta dizendo que NVIDIA RTX 4080 Super, és la tarjeta de concorrência direta para lá 7900 XTX. E no RTX 4090. Si formos por lá classe de topo da Gama. És cierto. Mas no Pero la performance. En memória tambien és ló mismo de 24 GB VRAM. Pero los preços no. Aqui pudemos escolher lá RTX 4080 Super. E lá tarjeta de concorrência direta para lá RTX 4070 Super és la RX 7900 XT. Eso Son las tabelas ciertas. Me gusta mucho de hablar espagnol. Em bom português diz-se. Eu gosto muito de falar espanhol. Não é muito diferente. Tieno três PCs 💻😉. E dos para modernizar. Fazer Upgrades. São os dois de 2019/2020. Com AMD Ryzen 2700x e RTX 2080. O outro com AMD Radeon VII. Mas que está desfeita. Por eso utilizo una placa gráfica mais antiga. La Radeon RX Vega 64. Que vai ser substituída por lá RX 7900 XTX. Lá outra NVIDIA GPU com a RTX 4080 Super. Los CPUs com Ryzen 5700x3D y 5900x. Buenas tardes Muchachos. Boa tarde malta
All test RT OFF 🤣 Thus, the full potential of the card is not used, the part that is why the price difference is so big is not examined! Moreover, 1440p is just so that the difference is not even greater and we see the actual reality.
dude... this comparison is irellevant and you know it. Who the hell plays without ray tracing on 4090? 4090 is easy 30-50% faster than 7900 xtx. That being said its only worth about 30-50% more
Had the privilege to buy a cpu gpu without VAT (Value added tax) got my 7900 xtx nitro for 812 € pair it with ryzen 7 7800x3d for 330€ but even if i couldn't buy them cheaper it would be my build anyway ,,never even thought paying Nvidia even without VAT ....
RX 7900 XT offers impressive performance considering its price point. While the 4090 is still the top dog, the gap is narrowing. It's great to see AMD pushing the boundaries.
@@AMBenchmark yes yes !! But the sad and see from this video is like just not worth to buy the 4090. ! Because dont give that much what is worth extra 1000 dollar ! Specially for me whom payment is 2000 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@daviddudas2820 Even if you take the red vs green out of the battle, the 4080 Super is priced almost identical to the 7900XTX and offers the same performance. I have a 7900XTX that I bought a year ago. The 4090 was never really on the table for me. At the time there was no 4080 Super, just the 4080 and it was $300 more than the 7900XTX. Unless you are making money with it, the 4090 is not a logical purchase.
@@daviddudas2820No ray tracing? No dlss? Or options of pushing the limiteds? Variety of different things you can do with that card, my opinion is that its worth getting.
@@Readan-ur1st amd has fsr but dlss is famous than that but people who doesn't seek for 4k or 8k or 12 doesn't have to worry about it. i even get solid 100 fps with rx 6700 xt at medium settings on cyberpunk that isn't any bad at all
If you turn on rtx on 4090 fps goes down %50 !! 😂😂😂😂 and you turn on dlss which is lowers the resolation and image quality so why would i pay for 4k gaming gpu that cannot handle 4k raw resolation and price tag is 2000$ is a scam😂😂
@@VictoriaEXx me too. There are many people in our world starving. I hate rich 🤑 💰 people. Billionaires should not be legal. Millionaires could survive. But billionaires should be forced with laws to give a good part of her treasure 🪙 in one special fund. To support the poorest countries in our world 🌎. Cuz this isn't fair 😔 at all. Humanity should do the next step. And start to pay human lives and our environment more attention. I'm one passionate Trekkie. And on this science fiction history the humans started to have one another goal in her life's. Not richness. They claim and search for her own self- realization. Look at Elon Musk and Virgin Space. They're both billionaires who invest many millions in her space projects. But they should invest in the research of the oceans. The moon is better known than our oceans. Only 10-15 % are known. What's the rest? And the 10-15 km deepness. So dark. No lights come through till this deepness. But they're still creatures living there. They have their own lights. Otherwise they wouldn't see anything about it.
Yeh See it all Games RT Off ^^ make RT on Test and Path Tracing on in Cyberpunk 2077 an make it agin 7900xtx vs rtx 4090 😁 native disable Dlss and fsr, xsee
You have a lot of money and don't care about them that much - go for nvidia. You are only gaming and want to get much better fps/price - AMD is no-brainer.
Con que CPU as montado las gráficas ???Intel, claro no pongas AMD que beneficia a la Rx 7900xtx 😂😂😂 menuda comparativa la 7900xtx con un ryzer 9 eso sí sería una comparativa real
Many hint that the difference in price of 1000 dollars is because the video card rtx 4090 has rt cores and dlss is it worth it well 1000 dollars in normality if there is such a big difference in price at least it should show a difference in performance of 50 fps more and not 25 fps in pure performance I think this is a pure rip-off of people
When NVIDIA does not be ripped off gamers till yet 😕. One of the best examples of her politics, are in Video RAM equipment. Why do they always launch GPUs with too less VRAM. And correct this fault with the Super models one or two years later. AMD does give her Graphics cards always more than enough VRAM.
@@hombre-lusitano3414 they install little memory because Nvidia's strategy is like Apple's, so that people buy a new video card every year like iPhones, that's why RTX 4060 TI 8 GB costs 400 euros, and RX 7700 XT is already 12 GB, the price is also 400 euros, and in terms of pure performance, RX 7700 XT wins, Nvidia is greedier, that's all
Yeah 👍 sure. And I hate greedy companies. That's why I never want one iPhone. Even offered. That's my own politics 😉. I choose in the past every time the best price in relationship to performance. In PC Hardware. I bought the end of 2018 one Radeon RX Vega 64, for 590€. But due to my high expectations, I needed one Upgrade sooner then I 🤔 thought. Found the RTX 2080 at one special offer for 679€ instead of the original price of 749€ I'm guessing. The newer Super Model types were introduced. With this card I could 🎮 game in QHD and in older games even UHD. Raytracing was new, so I tried this feature too. But deactivate this option, cuz I didn't see a great difference. I have bought one new Radeon VII too. For two reasons first I don't want to lose this card, and second I wanted to test her in Games vs. RTX 2080. Many people said in the Benchmarks I saw over the internet that this GPU couldn't compete with the NVIDIA 2080 card. But my own tests with games like Tomb Raider rise of, Metro Exodus and GTA V, shown that both cars had the same performance. Sometimes the Nvidia card was better with some few frames. And sometimes the Radeon VII was better. Now, that my Radeon VII is gone suddenly, I needed one new substitute. First I wanted one AMD GPU again. And get one Radeon RX 7900 XT or XTX. But when I saw the poor performance in RT at several games. I turned to NVIDIA GeForce RTX cards again. Here it was the same models of the High-end. 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super. I waited till the prices felt, and checked the difference between lower and higher GPUs were keeping the same. Only about 200€. I choosed the higher model type. But nevertheless I never wanted to spend more than 1000€ bucks on a GPU. Well I still wanted to get the Flagship of AMD. But later in this year. I wanted to wait till the new generation of AMD GPUs were coming up.
@@khalidaysultanov3816 but these RT and Tensor cores with DLSS have every RTX 4000 of the Ada Lovelace Architecture. As RayTraycing needs much performance from the GPU, this features makes only sense, with the more powerful GPUs. Like RTX 4070 (Ti) Super or 4080 (Super). No one needs such a monster like the RTX 4090. I've bought one 4080 Super, and after some few internal Games Benchmarks, as well as a little bit playing Alan Wake 2, I'm pretty satisfied. She's quiet and keeps cool. If someone is ready to spend or can afford 700-1150€, the best Price in relation to performance, those 4070 Ti Super and RTX 4080 Super are currently the best choice. And if RayTraycing or Pathtraycing aren't so important, then native resolutions in QHD and UHD could be supplied by AMD Radeon RX GPUs as well. Every card beginning with the RX 7800 XT and above 😚 are very good. They have more VRAM too unlike NVIDIA GPUs. The current RDNA 3 Generation of AMD Radeon has like the previous gen RT and AI Cores too. And they used FSR and AFMF features, which can be compared to DLSS. They still offer a little bit less quality like NVIDIA. But they're constantly in development. The biggest difference between those techniques are the software driver implications at AMD. NVIDIA uses her DLSS in Hardware based generation
@@AMBenchmark 95% i use my pc for gaming and took amd ryzen and rx 6700 xt. I try use ray tracing, not too different without RT. at first glance grhapic quality is the same but my gpu push so hard. The end i always RT off, always native preset. Maybe 2k and 4k just different
They work pretty well in Games. And like I said before, in the comment of akexstrong above, Radeon Adrenaline Drivers are way much easier to configure, too. Those people who are still rails on AMD Drivers didn't have any experience in the last 15 years, on them. Well I had passed all the way since the several renewals. They went into one great overview. And compared to NVIDIA GeForce Drivers, they are more than one decade more and better developed. In the fast and detailed big overview. I can confirm that. Cuz of my constantly using of both Drivers from this companies. The first time I began to use the NVIDIA GeForce Drivers in 2001 with one 3 Ti-200. Then 2002 with one 4 Ti-400. 2003-2005 with several ATI Radeon GPUs. Continue with one Radeon 1950 Pro and HD 4850. Then GeForce GTX 960 Ti and AMD Radeon HD 290. Radeon RX Vega 64 and Radeon VII. RTX 2080 and 4080 Super. The NVIDIA GPU drivers have never changed her aspect, since the last 23 years. Only got with the GeForce Experience App increased. The FPS monitor can only be used, when this Application is installed too. The details shown there are more extended than on AMD Radeon FPS monitor. But this can be changed with MSI Afterburner.
They work pretty well in Games. And like I said before, in the comment of akexstrong above, Radeon Adrenaline Drivers are way much easier to configure, too. Those people who are still rails on AMD Drivers didn't have any experience in the last 15 years, on them. Well I had passed all the way since the several renewals. They went into one great overview. And compared to NVIDIA GeForce Drivers, they are more than one decade more and better developed. In the fast and detailed big overview. I can confirm that. Cuz of my constantly using of both Drivers from this companies. The first time I began to use the NVIDIA GeForce Drivers in 2001 with one 3 Ti-200. Then 2002 with one 4 Ti-400. 2003-2005 with several ATI Radeon GPUs. Continue with one Radeon 1950 Pro and HD 4850. Then GeForce GTX 960 Ti and AMD Radeon HD 290. Radeon RX Vega 64 and Radeon VII. RTX 2080 and 4080 Super. The NVIDIA GPU drivers have never changed her aspect, since the last 23 years. Only got with the GeForce Experience App increased. The FPS monitor can only be used, when this Application is installed too. The details shown there are more extended than on AMD Radeon FPS monitor. But this can be changed with MSI Afterburner.
I heard that they put a shaman costume and a tambourine in the boxes with AMD videocards The company claims that when due to disgusting drivers you will again have a black screen or color change or any artifacts Dancing around the system unit in this costume and playing the tambourine helps solve all problems with drivers😂😂😂
That's really not fair 😔. I can say from my own experience, AMD Radeon Drivers are way much better in easy configuration. And I had never got black screens or artifacts on the screen. During the past 10 years. Those Stories with that's bad occurrences, are very old by now.
Двукратная переплата за RT?)) RT до сих пор адекватно работают лишь в небольшом списке игр, более того, AMD значительно улучшила поддержку лучей в последнее время, и работы в этом направлении продолжаются. Ты покупаешь видеокарту втридорога из-за одной технологии, которая все ещё на 50% маркетинг, и говоришь "AMD is sucks"?)))
Да, продолжай убеждать себя, что RT до сих пор маркетинг )) А amd по сравнению с нвидиа, и правда sucks, по всем параметрам кроме цены. Но amd и должна стоить дешевле, раз она везде сливает. Cливает в производительности, в производительности RT, dlss сливает fsr в качестве картинки, люди работающие с определённым софтом, всегда выбирают"зелёных" и плюются от "красных". Cейчас RT почти в каждой игре, и надо быть отбитым на говолу, чтобы при таком раскладе, сделать выбор в пользу амуде.
@@Пётр-р1щ9ь Будь конкретнее, дружок) AMD не уступает в производительности Nvidia в играх, не считая незначительной разницы в старшей серии. DLSS по всем параметрам лучше FSR? Это ты про искажения в отражениях, блики, рябь и прочие артефакты, наблюдаемые в многих играх даже на 3-ей версии?) Более того, FSR технология программная и ввиду этого куда более перспективная, нежели чем аппаратно зависимый DLSS. FSR стремительно развивается сейчас и во многом уже не уступает DLSS. Тесты и сравнения в помощь, если ты, конечно, способен воспринимать критику. Производительность в рабочих задачах? Напомню, что архитектура памяти у Nvidia и AMD разнится и, ввиду этого, они показывают разные результаты в разных синтетических задачах. Теперь назови мне эти "все" задачи, в которых Nvidia лучше) Ну а про RT - детский лепет. Нужно быть слепым, чтобы не заметить, что в большей части игр какого-либо реально заметного и ощутимого улучшения при включении лучей просто нет) Даже на Nvidia нецелесообразно включать RT в половине игр. Но вы и дальше продолжайте себе внушать, что без RT гейминг невозможен и переплачивать за маркетинг)) На таких как ты он и держится)
Нужно быть слепым, чтобы не заметить разницу с RT и без. Разница в производительности между 4090 и 7900xtx в среднем 20-25%, а с лучами это просто смешно, тут и обсуждать нечего. Я не раз слышал от людей работающих с определённым софтом, никогда не выберут amd, потому как, у nvidia есть cuda, и она в разы лучше справляется с конкретными задачами. Я с софом не работаю, но я это от многих людей слышал. Не нужно от меня просить конкретики по этому вопросу, я говорю как есть, люди для работы выбирают нвидиа, это факт. Посмотри один из последних видосов i2hard, там сравнение работы генерации кадров от нвидии и амд, и апскейлеры там вроде тоже сравниваются. А вообще, вот вам мой совет - покупайте самую дешёвую amd-карту, включайте 1080p, ставьте минимальные настройки, fsr не забудте, ну и наслаждайтесь. На фига вам весь этот графон, вы всё равно разницы не увидите, не нужно оно вам, поверьте. Заодно, сэкономите ))
