Man this is awesome. Been playing The Finals in RTX HDR with this and looks great now. Cant believe a new game like that had no native HDR in the first place. Im fine with the slight performance hit my new 4070 ti super runs it great!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i read that that one is for people with no HDR monitors so they can get more colors without clipping and stuff but on an HDR monitor or tv you just gonna add a filter over the already good color saturation that oleds have
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yeah I think its currently suited for competitive games for increasing visibility by making dark scenes brighter and increasing saturation. Hopefully it evolves by either giving us more settings to fine tune it or by the algorithm improving.
I think they'll slowly address performance hit since the app is in beta and they just released it. Was using it yesterday and had varying performance hit in different games.
@@biglittleboy9827 It makes sense why some people say it runs worse on their PCs. I'm guessing lower models have less tensor cores to do the calculations?
I actually recommend using the nexus mod instead of the Beta app. It uses the same filter exactly as the video super resolution HDR in the nvidia control panel for videos.
Im very impressed by this too and want to dig a bit into the performance cost. Has to differ depending on the type of RTX card you have since it uses tensor cores.
Just for anyone out there struggling to make it work like I did. For some reason even after disabling dsr and image scaling the hdr option was greyed out but after turning off g-sync and turning it back on it made me use the hdr option 🤷♂ using an LG C2 with an rtx 3080 btw
It's probably using Cuda just like RTX voice was before people called Nvidia on their crap. I'm curious if anybody who has a highsense U9DG dual cell LCD has tried this
Awsome addition from Nvidia!!Lilium's HDR tool analysis doesn't work for me when using Nvidia HDR(says ERROR).Is there a workaround?Keep up the good work!!
Very nice, thanks for the video. ReShade with MajorPain HDR + Lilium shaders is fine and all, but this seems like a good overall upgrade to that. I was just trying to get Robocop: Rogue City to work with MajorPain + Lilium, but it would always result in a black screen, even with CSP_SCRGB override. I decided instead to try out RTX HDR and it worked like a charm instantly. It's just a shame that you have to physically unplug secondary monitors for RTX HDR to work, and I hope that Nvidia fixes that in a future update ASAP. Also, quick question, but I noticed you had RTX Dynamic Vibrance as an active filter. What's your opinion on that? Can it be used in conjunction with RTX HDR? Do you think it is worth using?
This looks better than autoHDR + the ICC profile IMO And you can't really do Cactus + Lilium in multiplayer games because Reshade + addons or Special K are both kinda dangerous for use in online games in case they run into anticheat problems, so this might be the best solution so far
The biggest deal breaker to me, is that it doesn't seem to work when using multiple monitors. I have a second monitor that I use for discord and other stuff. That option is disabled for me saying "Error: Disconnect additional monitors to use this feature". Hopefully they fix that soon
I solved all my second(or third) monitor woes on my gaming rig by getting a cheap refurb office pc(lenovo p520 are super awesome) and using that to run the other screens. Find a cheap gtx960 and you can run multiple 4k screens.
@@jakeola10 Haven't tried just turning it off, but even if it did, I'd then have to keep turning it on and off just to play certain games like that. Using the mod that enables that feauture in games, still makes the hdr work so I'm using that instead
it will work with multi monitors in the future just not right now. New stuff has things to work out. easier to get it working to sort out other issues then try to do it all at once.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I remembered your video when I watched it a while ago and thought I'd leave a comment here. :) RTX HDR still costs performance, but I was very reluctant to do without DL-DSR downsampling in particular, so it's good that it's now possible at the same time.
I totally get you, man, and thanks for your vids, new subscriber and really like your vid style and contents... I will say though, RTX HDR is the only HDR method I can get working in games that I have modded/running with RTX Remix. I tried auto HDR mod, I tried Lilium's through Reshade. RTX HDR is the only one for Remix, it costs performance, definitely 10% and i would say can be 15%, and I don't like that, but I still have to have it on because it looks really good. I wish i could get lilium's working though.
Amazing video great performance of delivring a nice HDR btw how you did to change your overlay to yellow also is there a way to change the language on that app TY❤🌹🙏
0:44 ''A peace of mind'' Me: Thank the HDR gods, yes, a peace of mind when using HDR. OH my gah, thats what i want. 0:48 ''Here is the problem''. FAK But, 10-20% is massive. BUT this is still great in terms of, for example if your pc is powerfull enough and a game is old enough, it does not matter. Like something that pops in my mind is something like mass effect in RTX HDR. Anything with sci-fi lights popping should look amazing with this.
Ariel... I think better the RTX card, with more tensor, RT cores, less impact. I will test this weekend in my 4080 and let you know. But the feature seems really, really awesome. Nvidia is always ahead man regarding software. And now with AI things, they will bring some great features for sure. God bless your life man.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 did u download the gamer version or creator version ? i download the gamer version but no hdr option in both program setting and global setting, strange....
I think it's great to have another option. I've become very partial to Special K recently, but this works on some games that I can't get SK working on properly. Elden Ring is a game I've always been unable to get HDR working right on and SK always crashes with the MGS alert sound, but RTX HDR comes perfect right out of the gate and I'm not seeing any performance changes since it is already locked at 60 fps.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thank you. I used this guide and I believe I have the best setup now for the upcoming expansion. The native HDR always gave me a washed out look like it was applying the tone mapping several times over, but I figured out after leaving this comment that it is just a bug with the HDR implementation of the game that can be fixed by restarting my PC. With that reshade, there's really no denying that native HDR (when working correctly) is superior to RTX HDR in Elden Ring. It's less noticeable outside, but in caves and dungeons RTX HDR looks so much more ugly and flat. Color banding is also a huge problem that is almost fully eliminated in native HDR. My experience working with these SDR to HDR tools is that they were very exciting at first, but the longer I use them the more the cracks begin to show. SK and RTX both have their unique issues, but anything applied over SDR content in post-processing is invariably at a disadvantage to true HDR. If Nvidia uses their AI HDR tech to modify the rendering pipeline at the source, then it would be real competition.
Hey, I'm having issues with RTX HDR and I'm wondering if you can share some thoughts? When RTX HDR is enabled and a game has 100% white window, RTX HDR completely fumble and turns everything grey. I know my monitor is capable of achieving higher brightness, because windows auto HDR looks absolutely fine, and SDR even looks brighter even. Games look fine when there aren't 100% white windows, but this is really distracting during certain scenes. I have an RTX 3080 connected to an Alienware AW2725DF on the latest game ready driver.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Did all of that. Game I'm testing with has no HDR support, no other Nvidia filters are on and auto HDR is off. This is really weird tbh cus it was fine the day before. And again, RTX HDR is working, but the 100% white window is just completely messed up.
@plasmatvforgaming hey Arial, quick question, do you have to turn windows auto hdr off to get the rtx effects through the app on your TV? I've got an oled c2, TIA ✌️
how is it in black areas in the game? like corners. In cyberpunk 2077, i can't see anything in black areas... Just completely black. HGIG, using the mod you suggested for the black, Windows calibration app, black and white stabilizer 10, fine tune dark 10 on the LG C1.
I use DLDSR in most of my games so yeah, it sucks that it's not compatible. But games that i am playing in native look amazing with this, it's an option, you can use it or not and i love it really.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, is RTX HDR meant to replace the HDR option in game? So disable HDR in game and then use the Nvidia app for HDR instead because it's better?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Unfortunately no. In the Nvidia app, it says Direct X and Vulkan games only when you put your mouse cursor on RTX HDR in the settings of the app. I tried it in GTA V and Stray (the cat game which sadly does not have native HDR) though and it looks amazing. Yes, there is a performance hit, but the visuals are significantly better.
There should be no performance loss. It's only having to place or covert a rec709 into rec2020. And maybe even expand the color, but this should be done once. The fact that you are losing frames to this means that it must be doing it on a frame by frame basis. Whereas mods are doing a one time color space conversion that applies passively. They need to optimize this.
What i like about this is apparently you can trust the black levels and the peak brightness but at the same time you have full control of saturation and mid tones. How do you think about middle grey settings? In most game i test default 50 is too dim for my taste.
Im very eager to test this out, I have an Triple Samsung Odyssey G7 setup, with 600nits hdr monitors. the amount of games that i Succesfully managed to play in HDR i can probebly count on a single hand. I had some succesful experiments with "Special K", and later i installed windows 11 for autoHDR, but also didn't work so well as i thougt it would. I kinda gave up on HDR, thinking its one of those gimmicks that works great for a show model. but in practice not so much. I wonder does this only work in games? or can we now also browse and use the Desktop in HDR ?
Hey, how do we go about the middle grey setting? It defaults to 50, is this okay? Any pointers/tips for this setting? Your videos again are very much appreciated!
That setting is gold. It can increase the visibility without washing out the colors, and the black floor stays correct. I use it on 50, but for BFI, I set it to 100, and it works amazing
The first game I tested was Dirt Rally. On my Mini-LED screen 50 looks too bright/washed out on a overcast weather. At least comparing to SDR and auto HDR, which was how I was playing before. So if you notice somethings like that you should tweak a bit. It is not too hard since it is all in realtime. But I do understand that the mere idea of tweaking these kinds of settings can be annoying =/
The majority of games i want something like this for are older anyway so i have plenty of headroom and still capping out my monitors max refresh anyway. So this is bloody awsome And one great thing is i don't have yo keep switching hdr on and off in windows anymore i just leave it on because every game is hdr
This isn’t my experience of “Just working” and I’ve noticed in certain games it can cause some significant render latency. But I’m glad they’ve done this, it’s about time HDR was added to the control panel.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I think if the game is using a custom render pipeline, it doesn’t integrate well with Nvidia’s system and it can cause up to like 700ms of lag which isn’t good.
Uses the ai cores of the rtx line of gpus and eats performance as such. It is hardware based to give better quality and it is in it's beta phase. Depends on title I think, personal testing needs to be done. Personally it is a viable alternative when you cannot force auto hdr, the other hdr tricks are not an option and have excellent performance to begin with.
Man that Lies of P look beautiful. I wonder what Half Life looks like with HDR or any older titles. I'll have to play with the settings over this weekend.
Normal hdr does have a performance hit, albeit around 1%, whereas rtx hdr takes around 3-4%. Digital foundry made a video around this, I have no idea where people are getting 20% performance cost from.
@@CarlheinzRennie I reininstalled the driver with DDU, I double checked on multiple games its always -20% FPS , the modded Rtx HDR on low mode is -10% . I think its cause of the low amount of tensor core on my Rtx 3060ti.
@@stormborn7490that’s very interesting, since DF tested with a 3070 and the difference between 3060ti is not that stark, like I said, it’s likely a per user experience. I would like to see more 3060ti results with different setups
Those who are unable to turn it on in the global settings. Change your HDR static metadata in CRU to 96, 96, 1 = 400 nits, 115, 115, 1 = 600 nits, 139, 139, 1 = 1000 nits.
hey, on last epoch it dont do anything... should i have auto hdr on or off? Should i be on SDR od HDR in windows? just asking as i tested few ways and its not working for some reason:/ 4090 here LGc1 Keep up good work! and have a nice day :)
It absolutely works on Last Epoch. Looks amazing with it. Just make sure to disable Auto HDR in Windows and for best results pick "bright" (or maybe "very bright" in Last Epoch settings). You should be on HDR in Windows btw. Just disable Auto HDR
i can confirm this works and omg in game like last epoch is realy good! but not only that i can change how HDR looks via sliders so if somone wants to boost it you can. @@plasmatvforgaming9648
I have a S90C and my Nvidia app RTX HDR slider only goes to 800 nits when the S90C can reach 1000 Nits peak luminance. I have tried CRU and it didn't fix it. Anyone know what to do?
You can change that by editing the hdr metadata from your G3 with CRU. You can set the peak brightness to 157 which is 1499nits. It will show up correctly in nvidia RTX after that.
Thx for the video. I have a problem with hdr analysis tool, it's always in sdr mode when i disable native hdr in cyberpunk and enable RTX HDR. Is there any way to force it into hdr mode?
Have the same issue. No game that I use with RTX HDR is reported as HDR10 in lilium shaders. So the shaders dont work. Lilium reports the games are all in standard sRGB gamma 2.2 but RTX HDR is definately activated and even allows changing settings.
Digital foundry did a video on it about 5-6 days ago. They were using a 3070 and they were getting about 4-8% less performance I believe. Kind of wild to get 20% less performance, that has to be a bug.
I’ll try rtx hdr. I’m using ReShade Lilium tone mapping and black floor fix. Maxed out peak luminance in game setting, which which is what you’re supposed to do right? Lilium Adaptive tone mapping looks awesome, but it takes a second or two for the black clipping to go away. Pretty much sticking to static mode because of that.
I'm playing through Thymesia (great game) and already set up HDR using inverse tone mapping, it looks great, but I'm definitely switching to this as I've got a plenty of gpu overhead with a rtx 4090.
I added it to my wishlist after seeing it on your channel, you can really see the inspiration of Sekiro, much easier than Sekiro and the combat system isn't so in depth, but its a shorter game and fantastic for what it is.@@plasmatvforgaming9648
It uses the Tensor cores in 30 and 40 series cards for the AI to add RTX HDR to games. I know you said it doesn't work with DSR.. I'm guessing that means no DLDSR aswell?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i had issues in games i used rtx hdr mod, i disabled the mod in my game before trying the official rtx hdr, so tried to enable the hdr mod for the game again, while also having the offical settings enabled in the nvidia app, and now it works, can adjust settings with the overlay, not sure if the saturation boost is still there from the modded solution,
For sure! I always have to use reshade to fix the black levels with almost every game, now I'm thinking maybe I can use it for Tekken 8 instead of its washed out native HDR and then use tekken overlay to unlock the framerate with frame interpolation built in. It currently doesn't work with anything that also hooks to the game so I had to choose reshade at 60fps. Maybe I can have the best of both worlds now.
Why i would use this instead of just the standard windows hdr calibration tool? Thats a something like 4 step calibration, with brightness, black level, color saturation, and thats it, perfect HDR picture in windows and in games, and its just an ICC profile so dont draw any extra performance from your system. Why not use just that?
RTX HDR looks better than Auto HDR because the Gamma looks right, and the settings to tweak it are the best. However, Win11 AutoHDR can look great, too, with no performance costs
Yes brother, not sure if you've covered it already, but can you make a video about the DLSS to FSR3 and FrameGen mod, it's incredible, it enables FrameGen for all RTX cards
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 you always already of the game bro, for some reason I don't get notifications or recommendations for your channel anymore, but when I saw the Mod I thought of you😜
No DSR for me is a big deal breaker, also many people are reporting issues with multi monitors unfortunately :/ But promising tech nonetheless, hopefully AMD catches up quickly :)
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I’m going to buy a 4K 240hz display soon and will be over your videos A LOT to learn more about HDR as currently I know very little, only that I need a display with proper HDR functionality and that it looks vastly superior to SDR, however it seems each game is different I will need to learn about how to tweak all the settings, it’s a lot to learn.…
Thanx for (illuminate) us again😄,definitely must try,and the performance hit is not something entirely new,i mean a game like Chernobylite enhanced edition has a trash native hdr and a 15 percent performance hit!!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 the game has perfect hdr on ps5 and Xbox,its all began with dx12 such a headache!! Ray tracing issues as well! i think Microsoft discretly misguided devolpers.
Guys, anyon knows why my brightness slider is capped at 782? At first i thought it's the calubration profile limitation - but i created a new one with exactly 800 and it's still capped at 782
this is interesting. basically it comes down to ease of use vs no performance hit i guess. personally i dont see myself using this over reshade, but for games where reshade doesnt work, it could be a great solution, since something like special k has a massive performance hit, and is much less customizable and worse overall than reshade. ill check this out and see what i think of it.
I was playing Sons of the Forest on my OLED monitor and kept thinking man, this doesn't look right. The blacks are grey, there's this weird banding between the dark areas and stuff, it just looked wrong. I spent hours trying to look at what the reason was. Anyway, heard about this and decided to try it. IMMEDIATELY this fixed the issue. Just turning on RTX HDR and the blacks are perfect, the color banding is gone. It's phenomenal. Auto HDR doesn't do this what so ever. Nvidia, you've done it. Pretty much any SDR game now looks perfect.
awright pls help me. for some reason the option is greyed out for me ..:/ i enabled HDR ,. disabled AUTO hdr, and disabled ingame HDR - when clicking on RTX HDR it puts it on but it is greyed out and nothing happens...
My RTX HDR option isn't even there. I thought I missed a piece of info and switched over to studio drivers just in case and it still isn't showing. I do have a sensor panel installed but even then it should just be grayed out and not completely missing right? Was going to try it out but I guess not.
rtx hdr doesn't work with gta v now. windows 11 hdr on , auto hdr off , image scailing off , dsr off . other games are just fine (i can adjust rtx hdr nits and other functions) and only gta 5's rtx hdr can't be adjusted and always keep saying restart the game to turn on rtx hdr for gta v. (tried with full screen and borderless window , and in full screen mode can't even turn on hdr) any idea to fix ?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 weird thing is i was just testing auto hdr and digital vibrance myself and game picture was very similar what i have seen in your video when digital vibrance was on.
also quick question for you. When dynamic tone mapping is set to on, what is the maximum brightness in nits that is read in Windows calibration tool. My friend has a LG C2 and when it is set to on, it starts clipping at 2000 nits and when set to HGIG it clips at 800. For my C1, it always clips at 800 nits independent of dynamic tone mapping.
I used to love candy picture before, but after 6 month with lgc2, now I love cold colors, to be honest probably thats why I didn't like my oled when I just start using it, but now it feels way better and more relaxed for my eyes. I use 32 inch 4k 12hz monitor as second display and it waay more toxic for my eyes even with 50 percents brightness. OLED is the only way for me to play games
