RTX Remix Path Tracing: What Games Do We Want To See The Most? 

I would kill for a new F.E.A.R. game

great recommendations, both extremely light/shadow intense games. i bet they would look awesome!

Yes!

There's an rtx remix mod for Morrowind in the works. I've downloaded and got it to work myself. There's some graphical glitches though but overall it's pretty cool!

It's DX9. But RTX HDR should be possible.

Morrowind is working much better with remix lately that’s for sure. I’ve been messing with the last few weeks as a hobby(I’m not that good at this stuff) and got it working with MGE XE (DX 9)for distant land rendering and a bunch of other stuff, which I’ve periodically posted screen shots and a couple videos of to the official remix discord in the Morrowind project. As It stands though a full remaster would still require a talented team and a ton of time.

Oblivion is still out of reach as a too-new title, but late 2000s Besthesda Gamebryo has been slowly pushing forward thanks to the diligent work of some talented folks. Morrowind on the other hand feels like with the right push in the Discord, it could take off-- there's been a lot of experimentation these last few months with MGE XE to try to make use of existing community mods that enhance the game as a base level.

Stuff like that needs a bespoke implementation, the Remix runtime and tools are designed for standard games We have RT64 which works with (basically) any N64 game, so it's just a matter of waiting for someone to come around and do the same for the PS2 (or diy)

Impossible, Remix only works for before DirectX 9.0c. PCSX2 uses DirectX 12 or even Vulkan.

@@damnkris you should know that PCSX2 is much older than the thought of DX12 being a possibility in the future, people have already fiddled with Remix for an older version

@@Zippy_Zolton Ah yeah, sorry for the brainfart, I was thinking of RCPC3.

@@damnkris no biggie happens to the best of us

It all depends on which version of DX9 the game has, there is 9.0, 9.0b, 9.0c. Anything 9.0b and below "should" work. For 9.0c it depends if the game allows for a fixed function mode.

hell yeah brother!

There's a project in progress to port it to Unreal 5.

Now you're talking! Mirror's Edge is still a good looking game, imo, and with just some RTX shadows and lighting, some reflections in windows, I think it would look stunning! Sadly, it's also DX9... 😢

yes and no. RTX remix supports DX9 games with shader model 2.0b or lower. Different versions have different shader compilation and DX9c or just shader model 3.0 is not compatible with RTX Remix.

@@marosis99 Yeah, I guess that rules out ME2 and ME3 for the time being, but at least there's hope for DAO and possibly ME1 from my wish list.

​@@soulless_swedeME1 without ME2 and 3 Is pointless. A good part of the beauty of that game are the consequences that affect the entire series and there's already the legendary edition of the trilogy. When Remix will work with more " modern " games, hell yeah.

​@@andreabriganti1226 "Remixing" just the 1st game wouldn't prevent its outcome from carrying forward to the non-Remixed games, so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up as a point against doing it. Also, there's a noticeable difference in fidelity between the 1st game and the 2nd and 3rd, even in the Legendary Editions, so reducing that gap would be worthwhile even without being able to Remix the other two games.

@@soulless_swede I'm not against the graphic remake of ME using "Remix". ME1 is older and "different" in terms of graphics compared to ME2 and 3, even in the LE version. Therefore less immersive, as a gaming experience. True. However, remaking only ME1 would risk running into the same issue but with reversed roles. We would go from ME1 Remix, with ray tracing and high quality textures, scaled via A.I. to ME2 and 3 o.g. or LE2 & 3 which would be, in certain aspects, a downgrade compared to ME1 with Remix. This would still lead to a discontinuous and less immersive gaming experience for the whole trilogy. Therefore, the problem would remain. To my other point, the Remix would be applied to ME1 o.g. but, as far as I'm aware ( correct me if I'm wrong ) you can't "port" from ME1 to LE2. So again, if I'm not wrong about the porting from ME og to LE, to be able to play ME1 Remix, either you give up playing LE2 and 3 with your choices, or you have to play LE1 by making exactly the same choices made in ME1 Remix, and then play LE2 & 3, or play ME2 & 3 o.g. This don't seem like the best option. Therefore personally, I would prefer ME with Remix, when it will be possible to use it on the entire trilogy. It isn't feasible today but it could be in the future. 

Such an underrated game

Sadly DX7, and the wrappers for DX7 are a big issue at the moment.

Maybe the W1 remake will have Path Tracing, considering what they did with Witcher 3's latest major update!

@@docmarsMaybe, but since it’ll be on UE5 they might just go with hardware Lumen. Unless Nvidia is willing to partner up with CDPR for this remake, that is. Visuals aside, I really hope TW1 remake dramatically improves the gameplay over the original. The story is absolutely amazing and it’s a charming game overall, but the combat is extremely stiff.

@@Vorexia For some reason I love the combat in Witcher 1, but I agree that for a remake, it should be modernized and improve on Witcher 3's system. I'd still love to see the ability to change stances brought in. It added an extra challenge. They could borrow from Ghost of Tsushima for that!

@@docmars Oh yeah, I liked it, too. The stances system is great. The three-hit combos were also really satisfying. The stiff animations would just need to be replaced with more free-flowing ones, and imo the dice rolls should be entirely replaced with more interactivity. The group stance could use some work too, it would be cool to see Geralt actually dash and roll around the scene to deal fast and wide blows to groups of enemies rather than just swinging his sword around in place.

yes!!!!

Yeh, would personally love to see both of those. Sadly DX7 to DX9 wrappers are very problematic at the moment.

Skyrim and Fallout 4 will never happen, they all moved to DX11. There has been some work done with Skyrim 2011, but extremely problematic. Half-Life 2 is already getting a RTX Remaster, there are multiple trailers of it.

Such games would run just the same as they do without Remix. The lighting will need some work to line up with the resst of the existing game data but there is no reason why such games would be broken.

Nothing unsolvable since RTX Remix gives you total freedom in lights placement, the game could also be modded to match different shadows. Splinter Cell had also its bug in matching shadows and visibility

Now that you mention it, old Test Drive games and Need for Speed would be amazing too

Not necessarily a problem, it takes much longer for artists to come around than programmers and that applies to basically any fan project started by programmers/modders. Plus those HQ assets take much longer than something period-correct that would work with the original game

Yeah it make the game run with DX8

RTX Remix supports DX8 and DX9.

@@soulless_swede yeah DF seems to have got that one wrong,Nivida clearly states DX9 as well , and as say GTA : San Andreas is a DX9 only title and has an interim Remix mod for it already

@@davidrenton Well, the issue is that it doesn't support DirectX 9.0c, which most DX9 games use. With that they introduced a new shader model. DX9.0a and b are much more similar to DX8 than 9.0c

@@damnkris is that a fixable issue by Nvidia or something they can't do anything about

Dragon Age Origins is 9.0C and from 2009, far too new and thus will never be possible.

That's DirectDraw 2, and software renderer. So nope, never.

I was reading the FAQ earlier and I recall them saying up to dx9c but nothing garunteed, and the fixed render pipeline. Those are kind of the two requirements and they state it might work with newer games, but the newer they are the less likely that would be the case.

9.0b games arn't super problematic, as most of them allow for a fallback to fixed function. With 9.0c games that becomes more of a rarity. The 9.0 and 9.0b era was very short lived, not many games use it.

Not in a million years, fully shader based DX11.

People been trying the old NFS games, but they way they use API's is a bit problematic for Remix.

DirectX 9.0C, which is a nope. It has to be 9.0B or 9.0.

Unreal Engine 3 is out of the question. It's using DirectX 9.0C, which is heavily shader based so it will not work.

Probably because it's DirectX 9/10, unfortunately.

BioShock isn't compatible. A lot of Unreal Engine 2 games are, but that one has renderer mods bringing it closer to UE3 that make it incompatible.

Because it uses 9.0c / 10, which heavily shader based. It needs to be a game with DirectX 9.0 or 9.0b.

This is the right answer!

That's gonna be quite some time before they'll looking to supporting shaders, like WAY down the line. The focus right now is to get all DX8.0/9.0 games working.

@@thedeegee1601 The project is open source. That means there is no single focus.

@@alistermunro7090 Adding support for Shaders is extremely complicated, it's not anyones focus right now. Most DX8/9 games still need bug fixes to work with Remix as is.

​@@thedeegee1601 I don't believe that I did suggest it would be easy. The software is open source meaning anyone can access and submit additions.

It's not as good as a rtx remix port, but check out the newly released Dark Souls re-remastered

@@bxfguif Oh, I Think I've seen the development process videos. It looks dope. But I still wonder how Dark Souls would look with PBR materials and path Tracing

Lithtech Engine is a bit problematic still.

I've seen screenshots on the Remix Discord come by of AMA, so 100% possible.

StarCraft 2 uses 9.0c, which is very shader heavy. There is a big difference between 9.0, 9.0b and 9.0c. There is even 9.0Ex.

BioShock uses 9.0c / 10, so nope. It has to be 9.0 or 9.0b.

Think games between 1998-2004.

DirectX 9.0c with Shader Model 3.0... nope.

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@@MegaKiri11 8(!), ;)

What

I truly, honestly thought this kind of person was a relic we left behind in the early 2010s, so seeing one existing in 2023 feels like it has to be someone roleplaying a caricature.

This dude needs help.