Ruby Franke Prosecutor Tells All: ‘Horrific Abuse’ 

Amen!!

I think she says that in a “possessions” kind of way, like they are HERS. That’s how LDS parents see their children, as possessions

AGREED

Absolutely!!!

Kevin too. He has no right either.

I hope the judge feels the same way as you.

It has nothing to do with the judge. It is the probation board that determines the length of their sentences.

Ruby will be out in a year. 1 to 15 years is a joke

​@@NoChance-oz4dd is that all she got,

@@NoChance-oz4dd If she makes it that long.

Hildebrandt shouldn't be in prison. She should be in a secure mental hospital. Permanently. The public must be protected. People like that never change. There are many vulnerable people in prison. If she isn't stopped, I bet it won't be long before she's "counselling" vulnerable fellow inmates

The even sicker thing is, how many OTHER children have been abused by that woman? THe Mormon church was happily referring parents to her to get their rebellious teens in line with church doctrine! Who is looking after them?

I don't know about female prisons but in male prisons someone who has done wrong to a child often gets beaten up or worse.. Don't you think it will be the same in a female prison?

@@robertshepherd99 Many, many more, including the children in her own extended family. I just don't understand how everyone believed her and just followed her advice.. Even when you have their religion, that never justifies abusing a child. I really don't understand. As for Ruby and Jodie, I think they both enjoy inflicting harm. It's sickening!

@@superpoepie6256 years ago my sister was in jail for drug charges. There was a woman inmate who had abused her 9 yr old stepdaughter and un alived her. The inmate was supposed to be kept away from the other women because of what she had done. But one day there was a mistake and she ended up in a holding cell with 2 other women while they waited to be taken to court. One of the women recognized her and took matters into her own hands. The jail employees got in there and separated the women. I can't help wonder if the mistake that put the one woman in with 2 others wasn't really a mistake. But I'm pretty sure what happens in the men's detention happens in the women's too.

😢not once did she want to hear about the kids after they were found 😢

Exactly!

I cannot believe this guy in the video believes that she was heartfelt. Does he get manipulated by everyone all the time? I’m just flabbergasted.

It was all a show.I agree with you.I hope the parole board does not go easy on her.That's why they did a plea deal.If all this evidence came out they would have done life

Exactly she’s a psychopathic narcissist

Absolutely.

ABSOLUTELY ‼

Yes. Unfortunately I think generally her bad parenting is still legal though. Not sure cps would have found anything wrong before Jodi.

This DA is deluded!!!

@@shadamyandsonamyloverdenying your children food is not legal!!

And make a deal with Ruby that he won’t say anything negative to the parole board once she’s up for parole…meaning with her fake apologies, she could be up for parole in just FOUR years!!

She won't make it out a live!!

@@215FlowerPots No She will not Come Out of Prison after 4 Years. She will be minimum 6 Years in Prison. How will she manage in Prison with other Women Prisoners there ? A woman that went to Prison for Torchure her own children in front of the Cameras 📷 😳 and was Proud of it ? 👏 How Awful 🙂 I am glad that she, so Stupidly Recorded herself Torchuring her Own 6 Children. Efrat

And then says he won't hinder Ruby getting released

@@JeremyBilbrey-kr6fz Ruby is truly the master manipulator.

She absolutely did and being the mother that should have protected her child she should get all the time and so should Jodi.

And how! A true remorseful statement would have been all about her kids and what she did to them... instead, it was allllll about her.

He is very naive.

Yep and Kevin was there too

I would agree.

As long as the kids are safe from him...

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke looks very foolish Naive and is failing the public by having Ruby manipulate him.

they were abusing the father as well, and the mother moved out of the house, that the father was paying for, without ever allowing him to move back into the house.

​@@georgewashington3555I 💯% agree!

@@normbograham The men in this country have become emasculated!

Seems the mormon church runs the judiciary /allegedly/. Meaning, they got a cushy plea deal because of her affiliations.

It's a great example of Pretty Privilege. Tall, thin, blonde, attractive Ruby was just being led around by the nasty old lady.

Ruby had the prosecutor by his man parts. He was only doing his thinking with those.

Women always get a pass.

Mormons supervising mormons. System broken.

Kid was freaking 6 years old too. No 6 year old should pack their lunch.

@@81suzeexactly

Agreed!!!!! I can't imagine my 10yr old packing her own lunch... I mean a nutritious one anyway!!! Lol how could she put so much responsibility on that poor baby!!! So glad that her time is up!!

Her oldest daughter called CPS and they did nothing!

Yeah. I am not sure if he is just unaware or got manipulated by Ruby or what.

And Ruby’s sister, Bonnie, talked about her being manipulative and attention seeking even as a child, so I don't think she's changing. I think it is her core personality.

I agree. Kevin is also a sick person. He seemed to only care about her. Hasn’t seen his kids in a year? How?

No tjis is been going on for years she did it to her older kids

I don’t think he looked into either one of their pasts. Jodi with how she treated her niece and other people. Ruby with how she treated and abused her kids before

Same. IMHO, it was simultaneously heartbreaking and heartwarming to watch the video: on one hand, it's awe-inspiring & heartbreaking to hear how polite and respectful that poor boy was despite the horrific and cruel behavior that had been modeled to him...but at the same time, for me at least, hearing that gentleman spontaneously burst into tears with the 911 dispatcher was such a beautiful testament to compassion & humanity in the face of such a confusingly bizarre situation. It would have been so easy for him to simply write the whole thing off as a prank or say, "this is none of my business; the boy says it's personal, so I'll just call Jodi to pick him up. I'm sure it's just a rebellious, spoiled kid trying to get his mom & her friend into trouble..." but instead he took the time to take a closer look and kindly ask the boy what he needed. I hope that that gentleman knows just how much it warmed my heart to hear the naked empathy in his voice, knowing that it may we'll have been the first time *ever* that that poor child had experienced such unconditional care and concern.

@@maneckineckbeard1749I’d give anything to hear that full ring video

@@cryscket Same. But then, I'm not sure I could handle it! Just hearing what's been released is so heartbreaking... I've literally had dreams about this!

I hope so to, I have read many people say that Jodi manipulated her and I’m like “uhhh, have you not seen her videos before she met Jodi?”

That I don't know but grateful for this comment...was it seriously way before JH was in RF life??? If so how do you know ❤ genuinely curious and either way where was the husband in ALL this time, before JH an during!?

⁠Agree. Jodi affirmed her actions and basically gave her permission to push it as far as she wanted. It worries me this prosecutor doesn’t seem to get that.

Its the mormonUtah way. Too many kids to keep track of and this abuse is the norm. Born and raised in Utah by LD$/FLD$/RLDS Ive heard from every neighbor & relative- "I gave them life, now they owe me" true in 2024

yea her screws were lose already

Yes, she’s weeping because she messed up her freedom to be sadistic.

Wow. When you think about it, she has been in control of scenarios and how things are "going to be" up until this point, that now the control she had for SO long is gone. SHE is now being controlled. That is probably why she was unresponsive from the beginning AND in the interrogation room, to maintain that sense of control. But, you best believe she'll try her best to manipulate and deceive to get it back as soon as possible! Dangerous.

And the money she makes off of them.

She's a pathological sadist

See my earlier comment. Ruby was a pawn in Jodi's delusion. That's how cults work. Easy to demonize her, but I think that she, and her entire family were exploited by Jodi. If you want a villain - someone to blame for this sick tragedy, you need look no further than Jodi.

I know right. I am certain he was abusive as well as Ruby before they even met Jodi. So even if he "wasn't there" then, I am 100% certain that those kids were being treated terribly and just didn't care at all. He isn't a father and she isn't a mother. He is a sperm donor and she is an egg donor

Yes they should get more time than 4 yes

They will likely get more than 4 years.

They were sentenced to 4x 1-15y to run consecutively, so hopefully they'll do the whole 60y and never be released

Mormons

Oh, poor monsters, they're not going to get their own planets when they die. 🙄 MORMONISM is insanity.

That's always the case with people like her

Narcissists always accuse their victims of the very behavior they exhibit, so, yeah, she said they had the devil because she was that devil. In my experience (sister is an LDS convert), that religion plays the devil card for everything.

Narcissists are known to project everything they do on to others

Religion is so harmful towards children. Societies accepted mental disorder, nothing more and nothing less.

@francisweaver6251 I'm so sorry that it happend to you but so happy that you are out of that cult!

Wait until you hear Jodi justifying it through LDS bible passages!

My amateur theory is these two nut jobs were sadistic, and the combination of children and religion was the most convenient way for them to act out their compulsions. They found victims too small to defend themselves, and they found a philosophy they could mold into a justification for their cruelty. I don't know how much each one of them believes their own BS, but I suspect Jodi is more deluded than Ruby. Perhaps the two of them becoming friends was the event that escalated things the most.

Those children would have died if they had moved to AZ.

That's what being brainwashed by religion unfortunately does to some weak people who aren't intelligent enough to think for themselves. Religion truly is the root of all evil.

⁠@@hikingwiththedog6078 Also think they're sadistic. Saw the wounds on those poor kids, it's so disgusting that their own mother did that to them.

Exactly my feelings! She did an about face when she realized how much time she could do. She immediatly crawled back to her family knowing she needs them when she comes up for parole. This prosecutor is making exuses for Ruby! So weird especially when he says himself the kids were not making it out alive!

180*

Oh, it was an act, and an over the top one at that... Ruby was playing the entire band. She was ready to throw Jodi under the bus and testify against her all the way. But her hands were just as dirty, they were her kids! Did you know Ruby cleaned out all the kids savings, and Kevins, and gave it to Jodi? They found the $85,000 cash in the home!

I guess he didn't see her videos when she would starve her kids then smile about it.

This prosecutor was sooo deceived and manipulated by Ruby. Honestly he should know better, when he deals with people that lie all of the time. Come on! Of all people, he should know better!!!!! Makes my blood boil she is still manipulating! Come on! Can’t you see it? Have you not watched her blog? You don’t treat children that way. It’s so wrong. She is not sorry and has not changed. She is sorry for herself and only herself and knows she has to make a show of remorse to be let out early. It’s pretty simple. She is pretty smart and is all about number one.

Its so shocking... and so damaging for these young children, I feel such rage at monsters who abuse kids!

Eve and Russell oozed sweetness and goodness. They will struggle with this forever. Bless them.@@mercedeswestbrook4356

The emotional abuse has been happening for years.

Imagine they used to live in their house with their other siblings. Then their own mother upends them with a stranger and tortures them. Their parents made money off their kids.

Agreed. I came from a middle class family and no one would have guessed what happened behind closed doors. These two have way more money and space, thus more options and excuses for them to do what they want and never be questioned. That needs to be considered in these cases, and I think it's very conveniently looked past by the legal system that people with more money and power have more chances than anyone else to do these things.

So true! Excellent and very important point! Thank you for raising this topic.

Facts. Neglect and abuse is just over looked in affluent homes

@@sassysince90 Yes! And this fact really needs to be highlighted MUCH more!

RIGHT !!!! SMFH that comment said so much about the type of person he is smfh disgusting

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke should not fall for Rubys act she is a huge manipulator. Makes him look foolish not to know she abused her kids before Jodi every came on scene.

Exactly and she's also a narcissist. All sociopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are sociopath.

exactly, self-serving 'poor little me' speech. What I can't believe is how she threw it all away for the sake of what? devolving motherhood into sadistic torture when the grueling diaper change, colds, protecting from harm stage was completed, time for fun and that's her 'fun'?

If anyone buys her “heartfelt “ speech then they need to go back and look at her behavior from her first child all the way down to the youngest. It started way before Jodi. Seriously don’t believe that nonsense.

Yeah, it's kinda disturbing that an obvious narcissistic manipulator could work one over on a prosecutor like this.

At least the plea deal spared the kids from having to testify in court, that's some consolation.

I feel like there was enough evidence without the children's testimony.

Agreed! It seems like there is enough evidence without the children's testimony.

That’s the maximum they could have gotten anyway. In Utah the max sentence for a crime like this is 30 years. Also there is no fixed sentences in Utah, the parole board decides the length of the sentence.

While I agree with you, the crimes they were charged with didn't carry life as a sentence.

The teacher is uncomfortable with her child having no food but she isn’t. 💯 abuser!

Her speech patterns have always driven me nuts. It's so odd.

She’s gonna be saying it a bunch more after the girls get a hold of her. Lol

De-SPIC-able.

Omg I know. It drives me insane every time I hear her say that

Very brave. My father loved the belt when I was a kid my brother was 2 1/2 years younger I would take it over him and we stuck together. My brother took his lide in 2022 life has never been so lonely and hard. I'm only 43 and I can't believe I have to go through the rest of my life without him. I'll prob live to be 100. But I'll see you when I get there little brother.

So true! He may well have saved his and his sister's lives.

He was very determined, he's an incredibly brave young man

Especially that he tried escaping like 3 times before and I am sure that punishment was unbearable but I believe he thought if he didn’t keep trying they would die. Kevin does not deserve to get custody of them but imo the oldest daughter should. Kevin and Ruby should get them a house and pay their bills until the young ones are at least 25, Ruby should hand over a grocery gift card each and every week until she dies and both Ruby and Jodi pays for all their therapy along with the other children. And obviously a civil suit against Jodi and Ruby for when they are able to move out on their own one day.

Yes he is a hero! Saved his and his sister’s life!!! Much love to those poor kids❤️

Right?

I agree wholeheartedly. Neither should be paroled ever.

I live in Canada. A young woman here in my province tortured and burned a teen to death. She was sentenced to 7 years in prison and was out in 3 years, this year, a free person. Justice is a joke.

Seriously! She’s a sadistic sociopath. She has ZERO remorse. Her “heartfelt speech” is an act and she’s already trying to manipulate the parole board and public. The fact the prosecutor buys her act shows it IS working and is sickening to consider an early release is possible.

This is the sort of fool that will push for these two bi thes to be released… What a wimpy , wishy washy prat ….This prosecutor is so gullible , someone needs to give him a dry slap to wake him up

When I was a kid in the 90s I used to believe in the whole "bad kid" kids just don't respect parents BS. But now I realize kids crave stable parental figures, so if a Kid is calling CPS, something isn't right with the family, same with Running away etc. something has to go SERIOUSLY wrong with parenting for kids to do those things because kids crave parents so strongly they'll put up with a lot and still never think about leaving.

Which sister called? @HD6642

​@SageIsabella Shari who is already an adult and is studying at a college somewhere. And not only her called CPS. Neighbors too! Neighbors realized years ago that the kids were alone at home without mother or father and sometimes were walking randomly around the neighborhood maybe looking for food. The reports to cops and CPs were done several times.

@@tiger.wolf.2033 CPS is such a joke smh

And on Jody’s side, her niece reported nearly identical abuse long before she ever met Ruby.

You are exactly right.

Agreed

I don't think she's had enough time to truly be remorseful.

​@@GoodWillPrevailshe will Never be Truly remorseful

What a manipulater.

And yet he has spoken with Ruby Franke and examined the evidence and we have not so the prosecutor's opinion is of more value to me.

Yes! A RISK ASSESSMENT

I think it's up to parole board on whether or not they get out in 2027. Utah is different than most states. Most likely the parole board will get a report from the correctional facility about them. Mental health department will have a say.

YES🙏🙏🙏

Ruby flirted and he fell for it.

Absolutely. She was abusing the children before she met Jodi.

Absolutely. She’s a snake. Calculating, controlling, sadistic, and manipulative. Ironically she likened R to being a snake. Projecting…

Ruby is actually way way way more culpable in my opinion. She was their mother! She had a duty and obligation to protect them. Not only did she utterly fail in that, but she actively participated in their torment. She deserves exactly zero leeway. She should never ever see the light of day again. This prosecutor is beyond disgusting. He has failed in his duty to advocate for justice for those kids.

If anything the mother should face stricter justice because she had the responsibility to care for those children

Yes I thought I was the only one hearing that the prosecutor seems to be placing Jodi as the mastermind. Both culpable terribly abusive with forethought planning and intent

He got hosed by Ruby. Period. He should be ashamed.

Same. Agree 100%!!

He’s prolly Mormon, too. In my experience Mormons are naive and easily deceived and quick to forgive. Ruby knows that.

Agreed. Such a WEAK prosecutor. Plea deal for 4-30? Are you kidding me?

Absolutely 💯 agree! Ruby has no remorse..if you watch her 8 passenger videos she had a mean/cruel streak..she deserves just as long a sentence as Jodi..perhaps more because she..Ruby..was their mother.

I feel like it was a relationship built on affirming each other’s ridiculous beliefs. Ruby for sure was abusive before… but once she had someone pushing her forward all bets were off. The way she was talking was cracked. Sounded like she was on a path towards a Lori Vallow ending

Absolutely. And to say child abuse like this doesnt happen/ isn't documented is just untrue. What is child p×÷n???? Abusers delight in documenting their abuse. ​@Mfdoorway

This is exactly why people saying Ruby was brainwashed etc makes me really angry. Not only were there signs of abuse years before Jodi even met Ruby but if you look at Ruby's demeanor, body language and reactions in her initial "interview" it tells a very different story. She is cold/unemotional, calm, never once asking about her children or whether they are ok. The most interesting part of it is the way she "answers" their questions. She looks each of the detectives in the eyes for maybe 5 seconds-ish, first one, then the other and refuses to answer anything. She just stares down her nose at them. After a period of time where she just repeats this behaviour - eye contact with one, then the next while not saying a word - she then requests a lawyer in a somewhat vague way (something to the effect of "I think I will wait to speak to my lawyer") but goes back into her silence/weird eye contact thing when they try to clarify whether or not that was a genuine request for representation. It's very clear she enjoys the power that her silence gives her; her arrogance and narcissistic behaviour, coupled with the zero interest in the welfare of her children, to me (and this is just my layman's opinion) shows that she was not the unwitting follower people are making her out to be. Jodi was equally as guilty, no doubt about that. The similarities between what happened to the Franke kids and the recollections of Jodi's nibling, Jesse (Jesse identifies as non-binary) are too much to be waived as coincidence. I believe that these two women were toxic before they met, maybe Ruby would have gone on to do the same/similar acts without Jodi (I think she would have) but undoubtedly their meeting was a catylist that led to the worsening abuse of those poor children.

👏👏👏

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke fails to understand Ruby and her abuses of children even before Jodi came around. Please do not fall for Abusers Manipulators Compliments, makes you look really naive.

They both pled guilty to some of the charges only to avoid going to trial and having it all come out! They should never be released!

@@deborahpoole9710 Exactly. Jodi plead guilty because she knew I’d those kids testified she’d go away for a long long long time. It wasn’t even to rotiert the kids..

@@christykloss Sadly, it was hardly just me. So so so many other people raising alarm bells. It actually sucked when she stopped the channel, because it felt like she was solely doing so to avoid social and legal repercussions and we fully expected the abuse to escalate. The things she was willing to discuss were often egregious enough. Law enforcement should’ve known it was much worse behind the scenes.

So you saw this and reported it and nothing happened? This seems to happen a lot. Look at little Harmony Montgomery. It breaks my heart. At least these kids were saved.

Ruby stated to R," I will keep removing your demons until the day you die."

Utah is kind of an odd ball among states, where the parole board has great powers when it comes to sentencing. That said, given the evidence, it would be insane for them to parole either of these anim- err, women after only 4 years.

​@bixbysnyder-00 From my understanding I thought it was 4 years x15? Could be wrong though

@@aznmochibunny I looked into it, I think Utah law limits maximum sentence for cases like these to 30 years :( Seems like the law needs to be changed.

Yt privilege. We keep telling you guys that.

He was living on n distorting Ruby was just trying to break Satin out of him

@@SmurfPerfect Yeah, that Satin, so smooth. Making kids commit crimes like “*looking* prideful” for making it halfway through a sadistic endurance-punishment. How come child who has to be starved and beaten and paychologically abused because…Satin. While the adult who beats, abuses and starves a helpless prisoner is…OK?

@@SmurfPerfectsatin? I didn't realise little boys were made of fabric.

😂

@@alisonwilson9749 hahahaha gettem' lol

Remember his jail calls even after he heard... I'll support you...

ohh that man makes me so mad. Acting like he is the world's greatest dad and I'm like you approved of this abuse before you let yourself get kicked out of your home and then you abandoned your kids. I get that he was manipulated to a degree but you are still a human with a brain and I'm sorry but you made the choice to not even make sure your kids were safe and cared for within that year. Had he checked in or had a court agreement that they kids were checked in on regularly the may very well not have happened. Your oldest daughter cared more about her siblings did than her father.

The most evil

He got a year vacation from being a father at his kids' EXPENSE...

Totally agree he’s a sicko too! I hope he doesn’t get custody but I bet he wil so sick

mind boggling - darrell brooks

Yeah it's unbelievable and she was funded by mormon church. All she did was funded by mormon church her niece said

2012 she was on probation

Not really - therapists are usually the most messed up people

It's terrifying

He’s really defending that monster for some reason! The POS monster mocked and laughed at her children’s suffering! No matter how brainwashed one may be, you have to be a sick F to do what she did. She enjoyed it. Jodi allowed her to be her true self!

parole board is worse than prosecutors in my opinion.

Exactly and did he not watch their videos

@@matthewhurst2256 He didn't do his job of representing the victims....

@@RoseNZieg I hate to hear that. :(

It was so cringey. I have never seen this kind of speech in a english court! Ruby is not right in nthe head!!

She’s disgusting. The church needs to be harshly investigated as well. All churches need to based on the historic dangers they present.

the fact that an educated experienced Prosecutor is falling for Rubys compliments is ... quite ridiculous. Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke wake up.

I think so too but I don't think the parole board is as blind to people like Ruby.

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke, you are failing to see a Narcisist manipulator manipulating you.

They’re really crying for themselves...They’re sad they’ve been caught. 😑

I really think they would have been dead within a month. If they’d made it to AZ that would have been it. Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell all over again. And the elephant in the room no one in power wants to talk about.

Washington County Attorney Eric Clarke NAIVE NAIVE NAIVE.. falling for Manipulators Compliments.. cmon. you should know better.

You have to see the wounds those kids have, those horrible women literally tortured them.

@@mahinapereirabarbapereira3926😢

That's so sick from a mother's perspective. Shame on you!!..

The area they lived in was regularly well over 100 degrees in the summer. It’s unbearable to be outside for very long. No water is unthinkable.

@@HGD70 Torture through water deprivation..

The father is a victim.

@@Griftospherequalitycontrol No he is not. He was there when a lot of ugly things were going on like not giving them food, not giving some of the kids any Christmas presents and they had to sit and watch the older kids open their presents...he was there. He just wasn't in the worst of it but it is all bad.

@@Griftospherequalitycontrol That's what I used to think, too. But then I saw videos of the father back when they had their RU-vid channel, and he was such a jerk to those kids. He and Ruby were abusive parents way before they met Jodi. Meeting Jodi just escalated the abuse. The dad's a creep.

Kevin supposedly has custody of the kids right now 😮

​@@Griftospherequalitycontrolhe plays victim. He isn't one though. His children are? Where was he ? Fathers protect their children, he's a weak loser.

The prosecutor mentioned they wanted to remain anonymous. They are both heroes in my book. I get tears in my eyes whenever I hear him start speaking. The empathy just pours out of both of them. ❤️

They look dead, don't they. Jodi Arias had the same unemotional eyes.

Manson lamps.

Those are the coldest eyes I have ever seen. Full of death and evil.

Yes!! Maximum time, please! we should sign petitions asking the parole board to give them the maximum time…🙏

Ruby already got a deal that Jodi didnt. She wont be in long. Its disgusting.

30 years? may be 30 x 2 😅

She unfortunately is up for parole in 2027, it’s an insult to justice to basic fairness

The judge should be recalled if they don't get 30 years.

I completely agree but maybe he should have said labour camps, as there are still many around the world that exist but not documented much on and wouldn’t have related it so much to the holocaust and therefore less backlash

He was part of the abuse in 8 Passengers.

He's a joke. I can't believe they haven't charged him with anything.

He allowed all of this . What kind of father does that ? Keep these children awawaaaaaay from the father . Father is weak .

I thought the same thing.

Well said!! Ruby has totally fooled and manipulated this prosecutor. The prosecutor totally feel for Ruby's Oscar winning speech to the Judge when she plead guilty! I hope the parole board doesn't fall for this manipulator!

Yep it's sickening thatthey could get only 4 years, possibly paroled in 2 years???

Most states are like that ...

No, that is easy. Probably won't be granted.

We had a case in Canada where 22 year old Tim McLean was stabbed, beheaded and cannibalized on a greyhound bus. The killer was found not criminally responsible because he was schizophrenic. He was held only 6 years in a psychiatric facility. He has changed his name and lives in Winnipeg. Never assume that these two will not be released early.

Typical upper class LDS man.

Omg, he says that? WTH?

Yes!! I finally see why he fell for her act. She doesn't fit his idea of a criminal. This was million dollar homes, so rich people aren't capable of DV.😕

And that's why CPS failed them too... took one look at the house, the neighborhood, saw no blood or broken bones.... and then just walked away. I mean the boy didn't have blood or broken bones showing and look at what was brought to light!

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