And if you still absolutely insist on being a criminal thug, then do it in style, dress sharp, talk smooth, be charming and most important of all, get yourself a nice hat. Oh and if at all possible, acquire an equally stylish sidekick, preferably a mute one so that they don't upstage you.
the drop in fight choreography in Vol 4 onwards is so sharp. Like, she goes from having this kinda rhythm of using the shots to propel herself about or to make the scythe carve faster, to just using it as a gun, or slashing with it conventionally like a regular scythe, and then just zooping about with her semblance, makes battles so much less interesting visually. You can see this downgrade a lot with other characters with complex/distinct fighting styles like Blake. Hard to know if it's the loss of Monty, the new animation software or both, but its sorely missed. Vol 7's fights were a real return to form though.
So true. I haven't seen vol7 and beyond yet, but I really did notice that ruby just seemed to fight differently in vol 1-3 vs vol 4 and beyond. Watching the Red trailer and the vol4 character short back to back really makes it obvious to me. And to be honest it's not like bad it just lost the whole "ruby"-ness of it and it made me dislike the character short quite a bit. She doesn't look as cool and as fast and as "Ruby" as she used to. But hopefully it is true that it improves in vol7 and onwards
Man, I thought I was the only one who noticed that. It felt so creative when characters fought, they had their own styles and it’s mostly noticeable with ruby, she was the one who made scythes so cool to me and I really miss the way she fought back then. Probably why I dropped the show. Don’t get me wrong I also fell for the story but the fights were what kept me watching an entire episode from start to finish. Don’t get me wrong I still like their improvements with how smoothly things run but yeah.
SO! Why did they do that: The fight scene were great in the three first volume, but the scenario was unclear, and they didn't knew what to do with the character and the world building. When thay came to the 4th volume, they decided that the 15 YO main character was maybe a little to strong for the story, so they made her fights look like it's more difficult in the outside world than in the school!
Watching this video has made me realize that a lot of Ruby's development as a fighter is backwards. Volume 5: Ruby needs to learn how to fight without her scythe. Volume 2: Ruby defeats all of Team JNPR (including Pyrrha, supposedly leagues above her peers in terms of skill) with a single powerful use of her semblance that didn't require her scythe at all. Volume 7: Ruby needs to understand how her semblance works; because it's not just a speed boost. Volume 4: Ruby clearly understands that her semblance isn't just a speed boost; as shown when she fights the monke. Only ability she's made actual progress on is her Silver Eyes.
She only understands that it’s more than speed, but she doesn’t fully get what that means. If she did, she’d be warping all over the place in her fights, instead of the quick-footed bolts and gyrates she does. She seems to understand the pseudo-Anemokinesis her semblance lends her, but not fully. She only used it for tornados so far, when there’s more she could be doing, like making gusts of wind to discombobulate an opponents counterattack, before going in a quickly placed scythe angle to cleave them askew.
She barely fought in the first three seasons, and she was losing badly in the one major fight she took part in and only won because of overconfidence on Neo's part and obliviousness on Roman's, not to mention she was beaten by a pair of White Fang goons when she lost Crescent Rose and only survived Mercury because he let her go. Meanwhile in the later volumes she was matched against an Ace Op, and held her own against Neo alone.@@lourivera8449
Love her fighting style and her weapon. Just wish she could fight well with people since she's more used of Grimm. Happy to see how much she has improved! Best girl (in my opinion).
the new rwby is very good. but this CGI shit thing has the worst animation i have ever seen in my entire life. i dont usually complain about anime. but here i cant hold back. its just soooo bad it fucking hurts to watch
@@Da_caffeinated_insomniac poorly defined wasn’t the right term. I think I just meant stupid. In all seriousness how is Ruby the only character with this weakness when every character except for like 5 rely exclusively on their weapons to fight. Don’t think I’ve ever seen Blake or Weiss fight without their weapons, Jaune??? For me it’s a limply executed weakness with an even more limply executed solution, and after Volume 5 when she gets one singular hit in on an opponent it’s completely forgotten
It’s so sad how Ruby’s best fight didn’t even take place in the actual show but in her trailer before volume 1. When I watched that trailer THAT was the level of fights I was expecting to see from her in the show but was genuinely disappointed we never got to see it again. I know it’s partly due to the fact of Monty’s passing so early on in the series but RT could have done SO much more with Ruby’s fight scenes even after volume 2 but they just decided not to.
Lol, they didn't "Decide not to". The creator of the show, and the only actual talent behind it died. That sharp decline you see in the quality of the all the fights wasn't just because they suddenly got lazy, Monty had a serious talent for the stuff that no one has been able to replicate.
You hoe the fights got somewhat better in v7? It was because they hire fans of the series and Monty, so they learned how to emulate the animation techniques he used. Unfortunately RT wasn't paying them well and had horrible conditions, as well as many harassment allegations regarding discrimination of LGBT+ and disabled employees/interns. You can look up fan animations of people making their own series adjacent/in universe to RWBY with their own team names and distinctive fights, some are clearly amateur and others are near studio level.
Ruby's V8 fight against Neo is more impressive than people give it credit for, especially since she doing most of it up a incline while also canonically having a panic attack.
@@Step43099 In the V9 trailer, it shows Ruby's having a hard time breathing, blacking out, getting easily startled, etc. She is also teary eyed when fighting Neo; with the clearest shot being when she spins/throws Crescent Rose.
@@allieleon3107 That’s all retroactive though. The tears were there, but everything else was only added in the V9 trailer months after the end of V8. If all that would’ve been in that finale episode it would’ve felt more natural to me, however it doesn’t fix all the other times where Ruby just sucks ass at fighting or doesn’t fight at all. But that’s just my opinion
@@Step43099 ruby is using a heavy, mainly close range weapon against an opponent known for her extreme agility and fights by using her opponent's momentum against them. she's always been at a severe disadvantage against neo, the latter absolutely dominates in close combat
Ruby’s Crescent Rose will always be my favorite weapon. It’s practically a trademark element to the series. If there was a weapon I’d love to have, I’d be hers. ❤️
I really wish they had done more with Ruby wielding dust rounds. All the cast had interesting nuanced powerful powers that were just…written out of the show.
I find it funny that everyone says Ruby is a bad character, yet somehow, for me, she seems to be the only character that I find myself paying a lot of attention to and the only one I find myself caring about. Maybe I'm just a weirdo? If so I accept it, I like Ruby's character despite certain questionable writing choices of RT.
You should like ruby I mean she always looked out for her team (even when she needed to look out for herself..) some people fail to realize meanings behind things and tend to say stuff that doesn't make sense trust me the show isn't a bad show if you see someone saying something negative about it try to ignore it you know what you think is right and that's what matters.
I- Have you watched the show dude? Like, that's an objectively false statement. She's been all over the place in terms of fighting ability and leadership prowess, the only consistency she's had is that both have been in a downward trend since volume 3.
Through watching this videos I have come to a complete understanding of rubys fighting style which I will now classify as fighting style 1 because shes the first and main character this will take in to account her weapon semblance and how she’s uses them When using her aptly named crescent rose she can one shot most Grimm. from short distance with her heavy bladed Scythe she also commonly uses it to stab into things for grip and block bullets and other melee attacks. and on mid to long range is what her sniper rifle is for which can deal with most low tier Grimm. her scythe is based off her uncles but his is more suited for close range her sycthe is perfect weapon designed for most definitely for killing Grimm compared to her uncles is more prepared for humans. Next her semblance let’s her speed around the battle field dodge attack that could be fatal and support any allies she has. Finally her silver eyes which allows her to kill or wound most Grimm all though she doesn’t have complete control over it. Over all she an all around style which allows her to keep up in all most any situations while teamed shes support she does critical damages sits at far range to snipe unsuspecting fighters comes up with plans and lands the kill shot.
1:25 Where's the rest of the fight? Rooftop against Roman and Cinder with Goodwitch ? 2:10 - 2:17 "Think you can make the shot? hpf. Can I. Can you? Of course I can!" I LOVE this! 30:02 Best retort in Vol 8!
32:45 i never realised thats the exacr same move she uses against Neo in v3. This time, Neo doesnt even bother backflipping away, shes just bored by it
Man our cinnamon bun has grown up so fast! She is fighting like a badass especially when I saw the final ending of season 9 that fighting skills of Ruby was super epic! It like her fighting skills in the Red trailor. I hope Ruby learns more hand to hand combat in one of these seasons
When you take into account that after the fall of Beacon, Ruby became _horribly_ depressed and doing her best to hide it, it does a lot to explain the "drop-off" of fight quality regarding her from volumes 4-9, and why she stops being so creative with her fighting style (using her semblance to dodge, using bullets to propel her forward/backwards, etc.). Now that she's had her "revitalization" in vol 9, she'll most likely be back to her OG self (if not wiser to the world after The Tree), and with the new models, I cannot WAIT for it.
@@kaiaustria7779 4-6? She mostly fought grimm and when she did it was pretty good and she held her own against Tyrian, someone on Qrow's level. Volume 7 and 8 make her look weak against humans even when ream Rwby was destroying the ace ops there was like only one cool moment in her fight
People say that her rifle doesnt have kick but expecially in the earlier voliumes it could force her scythe to slice straight through much larger targets than her smol bean muscles could allow for,be used in combination with rose speed to send her flying through the air,and was so powerful that she consistently had to stab her blade into the ground for stability deep enough that she stumbles momentarily when pulling it out Thats easily a baretta or something if not even packing more firepower
Feels like the world's weirdest Rollercoaster having the fight sequences quality start really high, drop pretty low, and then climb a good bit afterwards. A nice little capsule of how the show's evolved at this point.
Honestly the fighting animation exhibited by Ruby in volume 8 made her look like such an amateur that it would've made more sense to me if it was actually of Weiss having just picked up Ruby's scythe for the first time, like what if ruby had for some reason been knocked out and Weiss had lost her rapier to the void instead... Yeah, under those circumstances the fighting animation could've actually seemed impressive since Weiss really wouldn't have any reason to know how to handle that weapon, and for the quick quick movement segment Weiss could've just used her glyphs instead. Note: it's not cause Ruby was getting wrecked by Neo that she looked bad, in volume 3 she looked really impressive despite that exact same thing happening there.
I'm happy you made that last note. I feel like that applies to a lot of fights in the series. It's less about them losing and more just how it looked when they lost. Pyrrha vs Cinder in Vol 3 may not be that bad, especially compared to some of the later fights, but it looked and felt a bit unimpressive. We've seen both fighters do way better yet the battle felt a bit clunky imo. A good chunk of the Volume 5 fights were like that too. Weiss vs Vernal, Jaune vs Cinder, Yang vs Mercury, which then turned into a 2v1 with Emerald joining. It was just frustrating.
So true, she went from being the only person to basically do anything of importance at the battle of beacon to never being relevant to doing nothing relevant in terms of combat. I mean, she could have literally gone AWOL for the entirety of V5 and it would still have gone the same way it did.
But she barely fights in them, half of it is in Volume 3 with her fight against Roman and Neo where she is losing badly to them for most of the fight, most of her other stuff alone is against Beowolves, and White Fang Goons.
Me too man me too before. I respect rooster teeth for giving the budget to make rwby happen, but they suck at making fighting scenes and writing stories. So much of the color and crazy anime fight cinemtrogrophy just gone with the newer seasons
30:02 Did they get Weiss and Blake's signature position confused with eachother? Weiss has always held her fencing sword type weapon the way Blake is standing now and it just makes me sense physically. I really hope they pay more attention to poses and such.
well recent rwby fights have been a downer now considering they now don’t have any dynamic fights and have completely forgotten about how the characters were originally supposed to be. like, it’s now just swinging a sword and stuff.
@@DlSCONEXT if you said this during volume 5 we might be more on the same page, but frankly when volume 6 train fight exists, Adam against Blake and Yang exist, (and this is all based purely on the fights quality mind you) Ironwood vs Watts exists, Team RWBY vs The Ace-ops exists, the alleyway fight with tyrian vs qrow, Robyn and Clover exists, the three way battle between Tyrian, Clover and Qrow exists, The *exactly* one minute fight between Maria and Tock from volume 6 exists, or how Cinder fighting both Penny and Winter is a thing, or how Hazel's entire chad moment against Salem exists, not to mention Ironwood proving why he's the general by holding his own against like 6 fucking people for a minute straight at once also exists, and then of course the entire penultimate + finale episode fight (minus a few eh moments) ALSO exists, this is a gross oversimplification of the fights quality. If your gonna criticize rwby (of which there is plenty of valid points to pull from) at least do yourself a favor and actually understand what your trying to criticize specifically.
@@Lucas61616 oh thats just a simple glimpse of my opinion really! its really hard to condense what i have about this show. i do understand notable fights from recent volumes but i suppose it comes down to how you as a consumer of this show would like ^^". im not trying to bash the show or anything i completely understand what rabbit hole im diving to, i suppose with the time i have ill tell you what i think of the fights. the majority of the fights in rwby consists of the characters word vomiting all over the place. dialogue and exposition is treated poorly with the adam vs yang and blake fight. an example of that is blake just explaining adam's semblance to yang. i think that by itself couldve been handled more easier. the ace ops vs rwby fight is.. average in my opinion. i get the message theyre trying to slide across was that team rwby had friendships and teamwork and thats what drove them to winning. however the team broke apart. the only teamwork they had was yang and blake being galfriends and just running off to fight the two other ace ops i cant bother to name. as well as weiss casting ice to block harriet from attacking ruby. there are very notable fights i absolutely love! i agree with ironwood vs watts and younger maria against tock taking a minute. perhaps that one singular chad moment with hazel restraining mami salami (salem). however when it comes down to that, i do believe the writing is all over the place. it sometimes is overwhelming and sometimes its underwhelming. i do believe the crew have made an effort trying to make up rwby with the loss of monty however it seems like they put only one amount of effort to a fight. i hope that clears up some things that you had with me! i really dont want you to believe i am bashing at rwby. in fact i do enjoy the concept of the show and the action scenes, but in my opinion, the dialogue takes me out of it.
Tbh it would be great if ruby took what she learned and had a whole rematch with tyrian taking him 1v1. It would be epic to see the growth in her fighting skills
Even the way ruby shoots crescent rose in scythe mode changes. Look at her shooting in volume 2 at mountain glen then look at her shooting in volume 7 in the dust mines
Disregarding volume 5 and the giest fight I really like these. Even the she moved pretty well in the geist fight but the fight had too much talking and teleporting
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20:30 fun fact most animals lose their balance once you cut off a part of their tail. Which makes sense as to why this would make him unfit to continue fighting. Because he’s so used to having it
RT better improve Ruby's fighting style a bit. Don't get me wrong the fights were great during V1-V4, about average in V5 and V6, awesome in V7 but bit of a downer in V8. So I hope V9 or V10 can make her become a lot better at fighting and seeing how she lost her scythe for a while, she might need to catch up on her training. Maybe use a sword or spear at least something that's not as flawed as Crescent Rose.
I’m pretty sure it’s just because they don’t know how to animate her using a scythe or something. They did that with Sun for the longest and kept him out of the Main cast because of it ironically enough as if our cast wasn’t swollen enough
@@darylsdesigns6679 Yeah what I'm hoping for is some new foes that Ruby will face like a demon or something. That would be a worthwhile opponent to test her skills on.
Actually I don't think she needs to change her weapon or her fighting style, Ruby can fight very well with her scythe. Her only problem is her hand to hand combat. She relies on her weapon too much and needs to learn how to fight without it and V9 is a good chance for her to get better at that, hopefully they take that approach.
@@safenow2186 oh yeah I remember in V5 where they worked on her hand to hand combat. Then we barely saw it as they swept the arc away. Why is hand to hand a Ruby only weakness anyway? Like I get the concept but it feels so irrelevant most of the time. Don’t see Weiss or Nora having problems
10:56 What volume is this fight scene? I’ve started watching RWBY and I’m currently in Season 6 Episode 1. Haven’t come across that scene yet seeing this is shown in order
Who gave the 15 year old access to a machine shop capable of producing a colapsable scythe thats also able to shoot .50 bmg with a high degree of accuracy
Well she only beat Neo because of the girl's tendency to saver the moment too much, and she was just as surprised as everyone by the Griffon that ate Roman.
at around 11:00 minutes mark you can see a difference in combat animations. In old she use her gun a lot to spin, to jump, to change directions. Later this feat is disappear. She is pretended to look cool.
@@kingraplhmativo5178 Maybe your right but it could be the ultimate twist in the entire series. Ruby becomes the first silver eyed maiden in all of remnants LONG history
i just realized, in my fanmade series ruby would go into uncanon vaale during the final word. but somehow, the beach area has nothing to do with the uncanon vale, soooo..... maybe thats the main reason why i made it uncanon.
8:30 Im saying it hear now neo can speak in my opinion she’s only “mute” because of something traumatic that happened to her yall hear that gasppp 8:30
Ruby's semblance lets her fly and transport other people while doing it, so why didnt she use it in the final battle of Volume 8 to save at least her Scythe and Blake?
When her and Blake fell Cinder had already depleted her aura entirely so she couldn’t really use it. Idk about her scythe though. I think it’s because Yang just kinda fell that she wasn’t thinking straight.
I really hope Rooster Teeth brings back the creativity and intelligence in Ruby's fighting style. It just doesn't feel the same anymore in the recent volumes
I kinda feel you. I wasn’t into the fight she had in this volume. The one against the hound didn’t count cause she was unconscious and during last volume was somewhat disappointing as well sinceRuby did exactly go all out on the ace ops. Vol 9 better be a volume where she can get better at combat experience
To me the animation in a lot of the fights after volume 3 make it look like she doesn't know how to control her scythe anymore, it almost looks too big for her or something lol. I love RWBY but these videos kinda just provoke a reaction of disappointment for me cause the fights could've been so much more. They're decent at getting the emotional elements in for the later volumes and when you're watching it at the time, it helps to hide any weaknesses in fight scene choreography at least for me.
