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Rugby’s law changes! 20 minute red cards….? 

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@hendrikcoetzer7234
@hendrikcoetzer7234 6 месяцев назад
No 1 put the ball straight in the scrum for a starter
@Davidvx1468
@Davidvx1468 6 месяцев назад
Springboks win 2027 RWC with attacking rugby World Rugby - No more counter attacking allowed
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 6 месяцев назад
Exactly, if that happens they’ll ban tries
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
Ha in yer dreams Springboks wins were bloody awful...South Africa should just go to AFL
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
@@mthabitXThe Aussie League team are not involved sadly
@Edgycoo
@Edgycoo 6 месяцев назад
victim
@dantewalters5209
@dantewalters5209 6 месяцев назад
LOL!
@eugenegerber5805
@eugenegerber5805 6 месяцев назад
NZ cry babies
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
Boks Boredom
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 6 месяцев назад
We are the most successful rugby team ever, by miles. No need for us to cry. Springboks a distant 2nd. And you've done way worse since neutral referees came in after 1976
@eugenegerber5805
@eugenegerber5805 6 месяцев назад
Not just better at winning but better at losing as well.
@eugenegerber5805
@eugenegerber5805 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisr5499 I understand you don't like chess, neither did I, but high scoring Harlem globetrotter rugby also gets boring quickly, why are your stadiums empty if it's so great?
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
@@eugenegerber5805I agree I don't like Basketball Rugby but 2007/2011/2019/2023 bored me silly...I don't any stadiums but the ones I watch are full.
@firepunch5001
@firepunch5001 6 месяцев назад
Rugby Union is willfully promting Rugby League...next 40years what happened to rugby union asked by kids around the world in history books
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
And why not ...they were right
@Vlerkies
@Vlerkies 6 месяцев назад
Scrum time needs to be speeded up, this is the biggest issue with rugby, and in the very least regulated like the kicks for poles.. It is the biggest area of the game that wastes time, next lineout formation. Dunno about the scrumhalf protection? Why, arguably they get away with a lot when the ball is clearly 'out' and cry foul. Meh. Why not just clean up the rule book, too vague and way to complex to entice new fans. Is it still a rule that you have to put a ball in straight into the scrum, then hook. I dunno anymore.? Remove the fetcher/jackal? I remember the old days when you get the ball by any means possible, now the fetcher is being removed? Madness. Nothing against tackles to the hips and below myself. Safer than now and will change the defensive requirements, Just 1st cursory thoughts. In order to grow Rugby the rules need to be clear, not vague. Less grey the better. Right now its really a mess. We saw that at the RWC and before, with tackle laws, different interpretations, head contact, red cards here not there, etc ,etc. Its a sh!tshow
@davidpells4298
@davidpells4298 6 месяцев назад
Given the pending lawsuits against World Rugby its not good cosmetics to be seen to be reducing punishments for dangerous play ..The lawyers representing the class action against WRugby surely will take note ..
@icefarrow7959
@icefarrow7959 6 месяцев назад
Did you even read the source? Off-field punishments would be increased in addition to the 20 minute cards, not to mention 20 minute cards only apply to upgraded yellows, straight reds still function as full-match bans.
@arthurharrison2972
@arthurharrison2972 6 месяцев назад
Changing laws to counter the Springboks will not work. Have tried in the past. They are rugby wise and will turn every opertunity into a strength. Will run around that "off side drifter " then we'll play 15 vs 14 the whole game
@Bleiddiaidwickwolves
@Bleiddiaidwickwolves 6 месяцев назад
The last 30s of a shot clock need to utilise the countdown music!
@faranglao8006
@faranglao8006 6 месяцев назад
Played over the stadium speakers 😂. Genius
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
🤣
@bowanna63
@bowanna63 6 месяцев назад
BAN THE BLOODY HAKA! UNLESS WHEN FACING IT YOUR ALLOWED TO RESPOND APPROPRIATELY ! WHY ARE THE KIWIS GIVEN THIS ADVANTAGE !
@colindouglas7769
@colindouglas7769 6 месяцев назад
Why? Do you find it intimidating? If you don't like to see it, go and accompany the wife on a trip around the shops instead! Personally speaking as a Scotland fan, I've never failed to enjoy seeing what is a traditional pre-match ritual display at these games. It's an integral part of Maori culture; it's tatooed into their DNA and I rather suspect the vast majority of rugby fans will respond to such a ridiculous proposal by demanding that the Maori Haka, the Tongan Sipi Tau, the Samoan Siva Tau and the Fijian Cibi are all kept as an integral part of our international rugby occasions. And who says we're not allowed to respond to them? Don't you think the appropriate way to respond is to win the game?
@stanvanrensburg6620
@stanvanrensburg6620 6 месяцев назад
TOTALLY AGREE with allowing teams to give a response back!
@bowanna63
@bowanna63 6 месяцев назад
firstly you insult my family ! you then display total ignorance with regards to the LAWS ! If any international team disrespects the "WAR DANCE " They are fined ! I suggest you try reading some long books and if you get stuck on any long words maybe your wife will explain them to you !
@brucemcdonald8529
@brucemcdonald8529 6 месяцев назад
The only thing kiwis are good at...shouting, bleating and making weird faces!!
@TheRadRingo
@TheRadRingo 4 месяца назад
​@colindouglas7769 So then why not let the Springboks scrum when they win a free kick...same same.
@Bobbydyland
@Bobbydyland 6 месяцев назад
Just to be clear, it's not the SH calling for a 20 min red card, it's the Kiwi's. It's small wonder than that the first team to ever be red carded in a RWC final wants cards to have a lessor impact. If anything I think a red card needs to be more dramatic in it's scope, not less. Now teams can target a key player, (someone like dupont) put him out for the whole game and be back to 100% in 20 mins? Stupid change, not needed.
@jacqloock
@jacqloock 6 месяцев назад
You mean someone like a team’s only hooker minutes into a WC final?
@xmun2450
@xmun2450 6 месяцев назад
This is misleading because no one is suggesting getting rid of the full game red card which is still awardable its to introduce a card in the middle of the two for the new tackle rules where in all rugby we have been seeing more red cards. There would still be an option for a full game red for a malice attack. NZ has been calling for this years before that World Cup final, its a change that was bought into Super Rugby long before any World Cup.
@natedogg8775
@natedogg8775 6 месяцев назад
What you mean Rassie has gone at the refs and made videos about them more than any other coach or player in world rugby 😂
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 6 месяцев назад
Super Rugby comp had been playing under the 20 min red card rule before the WC. It worked well. Sam Canes WC red is irrelevant… unless you just hate the ABs.
@Bobbydyland
@Bobbydyland 6 месяцев назад
​@@xmun2450 Except it teaches NZ players that there's very little consequence for the team if they tackle poorly. The red card trial in Super Rugby is the likely reason that NZ had the most red cards of any team at last years RWC, despite only playing 3 challenging matches. Good tackle technique can be coached, and this change would see to it that it doesn't need to be. Peter Steph Du Toit put in 23 huge hits in the final, all were low. No bad for a 2 meter tall man.
@hannesbornman1045
@hannesbornman1045 6 месяцев назад
I have got two possible solutions to world rugby's problem: 1. Make unions rules exactly the same as legue's 2. Ban the Springboks from rugby union There problem solved
@ianjacobs2998
@ianjacobs2998 6 месяцев назад
Don't talk 💩💩💩💩you ...head 🤡🤡🤡
@ianjacobs2998
@ianjacobs2998 6 месяцев назад
@@hannesbornman1045 Sorry my friend , my apologies!!!!🤝🤝🙏
@thecuttingsark5094
@thecuttingsark5094 6 месяцев назад
😂
@libertyavalanche
@libertyavalanche 6 месяцев назад
Remember they already tried #2.
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
Agree but let the Bok's play Rugby League as I bet they be very good at that code of RUGBY.
@firepunch5001
@firepunch5001 6 месяцев назад
They just never want to see the 7-1 split again...😂😂😂 World rugby is a joke
@jesseferguson4269
@jesseferguson4269 6 месяцев назад
Its mind boggling how a large percentage of the SA fans on here are so insecure to think this is a conspiracy against them led by NZ 😅😅😅. Boks are a great team that have won back to back world cups based on innovation and squad depth. A few minor law changes to improve the viewing experience wont stop them from continuing to be great will it? Ironic how the fans of the most innovative team over the past few years are so afraid of innovating the game a little.
@geoffhogan4831
@geoffhogan4831 6 месяцев назад
Go watch rugby league. This is anti SA...
@jesseferguson4269
@jesseferguson4269 6 месяцев назад
​@@geoffhogan4831cry me a river.
@TheBuildKingR
@TheBuildKingR 6 месяцев назад
Disagree with the line out play on if not straight - if you are defending and you know a maul is coming you would rather want to defend instead of competing the lineout if on your goal line.
@matthewvanrensburg3824
@matthewvanrensburg3824 6 месяцев назад
And yet again we see NZ say jump and WR ask how high.
@schnickeringhen
@schnickeringhen 6 месяцев назад
Always with the whinging about NZ. It’s total rubbish. The NH have the most power when it comes to changing rugby which is WHY it’s been so slow to do anything meaningful, despite desperately needing some reinvigoration.
@xmun2450
@xmun2450 6 месяцев назад
the didnt change shit , NZ wanted far more changes. World rugby is a NH dominated affair
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 6 месяцев назад
Do as your told
@caylebmladenovic3348
@caylebmladenovic3348 6 месяцев назад
@@xmun2450much like 2016 when the last set of rule changes was brought in to end the all blacks dominance just too make rugby a factually worst and slower sport. These law charges are fixing a fuck up and making the sport better your an idiot I bet you havnt watched rugby for longer than 8 years
@stephenprior61
@stephenprior61 6 месяцев назад
Red cards ruin games - especially if in the beginning of the game -really as a fan how can you say otherwise
@stanvanrensburg6620
@stanvanrensburg6620 6 месяцев назад
couldnt agree more! SA fan here and the red in the final against ABs was ridiculous!
@jamesrice1187
@jamesrice1187 6 месяцев назад
Alfie, regarding the rule changes: you talk so much sense. Thank you.
@revanomichael
@revanomichael 6 месяцев назад
Poor Springboks! Now we have to find another way to win the world cup! Which we will!!!!
@citedcanvas85
@citedcanvas85 6 месяцев назад
Dr Rassie to add a 3rd light to his tactics😉
@thecuttingsark5094
@thecuttingsark5094 6 месяцев назад
😂 brilliant
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
@@citedcanvas85Lets get Dr Rassie have a cross code game against the Aussie NRL lot
@chrisjohnson6631
@chrisjohnson6631 6 месяцев назад
Haha. Good on you! (From and Englishman)
@garthinator1
@garthinator1 6 месяцев назад
Springboks are the best team in the world at bending the rules and shithousery causing the rugby world to react. Also, you'l be fine. The doping program in SA is comprehensive
@thomaseskenazi2013
@thomaseskenazi2013 6 месяцев назад
I have a strong issues with : Shotclocks when both teams are invovled, play on lineout not straight if uncontested and red cards limited on time. Shotclocks when both teams are invovled, this could be abused on so many levels, that would be close to impossible to be really fair on who is actually responsible between attacking and defending team ineout not straight if uncontested, so in 5 meters touch, I can thor it directly to my half-scrum if the opposing team does not contest? Just write that it is mandatory to contest the lineout then, it will be less hypocritical =) Red cards limited on time, so I can target a key player on the oppositing team, injued it and have the team not penalised more than 20 mins? Please, everyone can see this is could be abused way too easily. Not everyone is well intended, even in Rugby ^^' Also, I agree we want to see more efficient scrums, not less scrums!
@Karma-qt4ji
@Karma-qt4ji 6 месяцев назад
Agree. The lineout issue - if a defending team on the 5y line does not compete then you can basically throw the ball to your flyhalf. Why even bother with the 9?!? lol Any law that adds an even worse potential exploit is not going to go well. This is the reason why I also have an issue with the scrum free kick thing - forcing a defending lineout to compete while at the same time giving a weaker scrum a reason not to. No way a free kick is as much of an attacking opportunity as a scrum. For one thing, unless the ball is in the 9's hands when the FK is called, the opposition has time to get their defence in place.
@garthinator1
@garthinator1 6 месяцев назад
You're living a bit in fantasy land about the red card rule. The player that gets carded is off for the rest of the game and they have to use their bench after the 20 minutes. The red carded player still gets sanctioned and banned and the fan experience isn't qdversely affected.
@grahamstory
@grahamstory 6 месяцев назад
Ban teams wearing black shirts.
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
Ban racist teams like the Boks back in the day
@wynandvanzyl8798
@wynandvanzyl8798 6 месяцев назад
World rugby makes me mad. I get so angry. Why don’t they change to rugby league and get it over with Killing Union completely? What a lot of typical all-black John Kirwan bullshit
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
Thats a good idea sick of having 2 Rugby Codes.
@patrickkinsella9134
@patrickkinsella9134 6 месяцев назад
I agree NZ is only one country .
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 6 месяцев назад
South African alert….
@caylebmladenovic3348
@caylebmladenovic3348 6 месяцев назад
Your soo wrong
@jonathonwhitiora8102
@jonathonwhitiora8102 6 месяцев назад
league should drop rugby call it self league and let rugby be called rugby and league is league
@johnhanson5943
@johnhanson5943 6 месяцев назад
Somebody else said it - and I agree - when NZ aren’t winning titles - they start pushing changes to rules. Some good and some bad - but all ultimately tactical in favour of the ABs stengths.
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 6 месяцев назад
Well, ABs have strengths in pretty much all areas. Perhaps some teams have more obvious weaknesses that could be exposed by these proposals…. which is all they are at the moment.
@Davidvx1468
@Davidvx1468 6 месяцев назад
1000% agree.
@markcorcoran3477
@markcorcoran3477 6 месяцев назад
Surely it’s not the all blacks that make the rules it’s world rugby!!!
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 6 месяцев назад
@@markcorcoran3477 of course not. An ironic accusation when the ABs have a winning, or at worst an even record, against all teams with the existing rules. Teams of the insecure supporters will need to adapt or get left behind.
@060stick
@060stick 6 месяцев назад
What about using a round ball and penalise handling the ball.
@Karma-qt4ji
@Karma-qt4ji 6 месяцев назад
that's pretty much the way we are going lol. As long as we ban shin clutching while writhing around on the floor before that becomes a scourge too...
@Ivandre423
@Ivandre423 6 месяцев назад
A red card should always be given on the field, like it always were. If they want to review the yellow card, and find no mitigation, they should just extend the time to 20 minutes and not give 20 minute red cards, that ridiculous. If the danger cannot be assessed on the field as red card worthy, it should not become a red card off the field.
@JohnRidley12
@JohnRidley12 6 месяцев назад
I've got this, probably unworkable, idea that for free kick scrum offenses you shouldn't be allowed to reset. But you do get ten extra meters for the mark. Think this would be a good incentive for a dominant scrum and speed the game up. As you would be instantly behind the defense. So many of these just seem weird. Why get rid of the jackle? Who was asking for this? I could see the argument for reducing the number of subs. Don't care how they are used as that gets fiddly and hard to explain to newbies. Rugby is more exciting than ever. Small, necessary tweaks only.
@charliebannon5489
@charliebannon5489 6 месяцев назад
Keep the jackal
@goodmaro
@goodmaro 4 месяца назад
When he mentions eliminating the jackal, it's not explained in favor of what? Would the change take away opportunities to contest for the ball directly, or add to them? Because I could see "eliminating the jackal" as either making that form of play entirely illegal, or liberalizing it so nobody would have a name for it any more.
@chrismia2402
@chrismia2402 6 месяцев назад
Ridiculous all the tinkering. 20min red cards are an invite to more Kiwi thug play. Just stupid.
@fraserposford144
@fraserposford144 6 месяцев назад
I'm really not a fan of how overpowered the scrum is in the game compared to other set pieces. My most radical rule change suggestion would be to get rid of scrum penalties and make them all free kicks, yellow card for repeated infringements. However, I'm pretty sure that's not going to be popular, especially with South Africans. My more reasonable suggestion would be for refs to stop the clock more for reset scrums. Prevent teams wasting so much time on them, especially when it's deliberate at the end of a game. The clock should be off when the ref blows their whistle for a reset and back on when the two packs set. Both would encourage teams to play more with the ball and spend less time milking scrum penalties or just wasting time.
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree
@TaydoS
@TaydoS 6 месяцев назад
Only teams who can't scrummage would agree. There's always Rugby League for those who don't want to see dominate scrums.
@fraserposford144
@fraserposford144 6 месяцев назад
@@TaydoS so if one team is dominating in the lineout, we should make a rule that gifts them easy penalties? Sounds silly cos it is. The scrum is a tool to get the game started again, not primarily a points scoring method, but that's exactly how teams use it.
@stanvanrensburg6620
@stanvanrensburg6620 6 месяцев назад
Its a fair point RE the scrums - but i can guarantee you that you would be singing a different tune if your team were the ones winning all those scrum penalties ;)
@fraserposford144
@fraserposford144 6 месяцев назад
@@stanvanrensburg6620 the teams I support win enough scrum penalties to be in major finals and knockout games but they're not more rewarding to watch than a try or drop goal. Scrum penalties actively discourage the game being played and aren't a good advert to new fans. But yea, I don't see anything changing around them anytime soon.
@gg60384
@gg60384 6 месяцев назад
On scrums, one thought I had is whether the front rows could bind (or even engage) before the second and back rows coming in - vast majority of scrums need to be reset when binding or engaging and take longer because the whole packs need to get back into shape so it would allow front rows to get into the correct position more quickly before the rest of the pack comes in while still keeping scrums as an important part of the game
@treeZo360
@treeZo360 6 месяцев назад
Clearly a ploy to lessen the strengths of the springbok team
@alfredreynolds5
@alfredreynolds5 6 месяцев назад
The no scrum from a free kick sounds mental to me 🤯
@treeZo360
@treeZo360 6 месяцев назад
@alfredreynolds5 that's what had me scratching my head as well. I hope there isn't any sinister things happening in the background for the sake of rugby because at the minute.. looks like a lot of abuse of power right here
@tshepokgatle5620
@tshepokgatle5620 6 месяцев назад
Here's the thing Alfie. Even if these dodgy laws are implemented Rassie along with his troops will still find ways to adapt and try to be one step ahead of the rest And if these adjustments leads to the "three-peat" then watch the space World Rugby will try to change the laws AGAIN to depower South Africa😩 For me it's a typical example of World Rugby being bitter sore losers. They can't take it that a 3rd world country from Africa are the kings of rugby😑😏
@matthewvanrensburg3824
@matthewvanrensburg3824 6 месяцев назад
Been happening for decades since return from isolation. NZ says jump and WR ask how high.
@citedcanvas85
@citedcanvas85 6 месяцев назад
Good thing we got a kiwi in the coaching team now. Hopefully it wont be an issue going into the next world cup
@frasierfrasier1769
@frasierfrasier1769 6 месяцев назад
I would like to see the end of the "Mark" law in the 22.
@SuzetteJasson
@SuzetteJasson 6 месяцев назад
We(Springboks) have a attacking coach(Tony Brown) in for this reason of the foolish changes..We just start to run more...no problem😊
@xmun2450
@xmun2450 6 месяцев назад
This is misleading because it wouldn't null the full game red card it creates a new card in the middle of the two because of the newer laws around tackling. Sometimes these tackles happen so fast and there is no malice in it. Red cards for the rest of the game can still be awarded by the ref for malice behaviour.
@johnsantos3392
@johnsantos3392 6 месяцев назад
New rules to try and beat the boks. So weak
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
Boks were not around in 1987 Rugby moved on
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 6 месяцев назад
Marking re-start kicks is brainless !!!
@Burninglash
@Burninglash 6 месяцев назад
Removing the jackel is dumb. How does a defending side win back the ball?
@russellfulton6861
@russellfulton6861 6 месяцев назад
Would there be counter rucking? Like if to win the ball back you have to throw 3-4 guys at a ruck would open up a lot more space in theory?
@austinarsenault9040
@austinarsenault9040 6 месяцев назад
@@russellfulton6861why would any team throw people in , just don’t compete
@Burninglash
@Burninglash 6 месяцев назад
@russellfulton6861 nope all you will get is Irish style fast rucks, remember there is also a rule change to add further protection for the scrumhalf. Teams will not commit to the ruck they will join the defensive line. I think they will turn rugby into something like basket ball where the attacking tram will run rampant
@thecuttingsark5094
@thecuttingsark5094 6 месяцев назад
Getting rid of the jackal is the same as saying you’re not allowed to pick up the ball
@caylebmladenovic3348
@caylebmladenovic3348 6 месяцев назад
The fact your all calling it a jackle and not a pilfer just shows your too new to the sport of rugby too have any say what so ever.
@Gilescowdemdem
@Gilescowdemdem 6 месяцев назад
Loosely on board with most of these excluding, unsurprisingly, the 20-minute red card. If ever there were a more clear backward step on player welfare and a lack of incentive to teach players to tackle lower I can't think of it.
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 6 месяцев назад
How? The carded player remains off. They’ll also be sited and will likely be suspended for weeks. How is the current rule safer? Players are getting red carded regardless…
@Camcolito
@Camcolito 6 месяцев назад
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou Some players are, some teams hardly ever get a red card because they pay attention to the rules instead of whining constantly about it like in NZ.
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 6 месяцев назад
@@Camcolito sounds like you’re whining to me.
@scottsullivan5016
@scottsullivan5016 6 месяцев назад
Scrums idea is bonkers. The reason why scrums are such a mess is they are no longer just a restart but a means of milking a penalty. It’s crazy that it’s the only area of the game where you can be penalised just for being weaker than the other team. Replace all scrum penalties with free kicks - other than for an attacking scrum in the 22. Scrum penalties from a 5m scrum should result in a penalty try.
@mercedessl8718
@mercedessl8718 6 месяцев назад
I guess the restart and the ability to call mark might make teams not kick long and go for a more competitive restart just over the 10 line🤔
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 6 месяцев назад
World Rugby has an obsession with rugby league. NONE of these changes add anything to the game. All of this aimed at the Springboks . We love rugby, we love scrums , we love rolling mauls……
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
Rugby Union looks nothing like the Wigan of old or the NRL....No one watched Rugby in South Africa for it large population...its only the world cup the Saffa's get behind it but watch Currie Cup games and no one are in the massive stadiums.
@donnieconradie800
@donnieconradie800 6 месяцев назад
So there would literally be nothing preventing the flyhalf from catching the lineout ball? It's not like you can contest it.
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 6 месяцев назад
Nice run-down, Alfie. Thanks👍🏼
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 6 месяцев назад
Can’t see ANY reason NOT to let the side awarded a free-kick opt for a scrum instead. Totally valid option.
@richardworley7798
@richardworley7798 6 месяцев назад
Most of the time, a scrum could have happened anyway when a free kick is awarded at a scrum. Should only award it if the offence leads to an advantage
@neilmacewan8706
@neilmacewan8706 6 месяцев назад
Red cards ruin games!
@scottsullivan5016
@scottsullivan5016 6 месяцев назад
I must be in a minority in liking the mark from a restart. All restarts will be a kick to compete rather than a long kick followed by a ruck, followed by a caterpillar ruck and a kick to touch on halfway.
@goodmaro
@goodmaro 4 месяца назад
It hasn't been so long since you could last mark a kickoff, but that could be an entire generation of players. I remember when you used to be allowed to make a fair catch (as it was called then) of any opposing kick anywhere, though you had to be in place with both feet on the ground. But being allowed to mark inside your own 22 seems to be needed as a remedy at a kickoff as much as other types of kicks, so why not? Back when you could, kicking off deep was a relative rarity in Union.
@Burninglash
@Burninglash 6 месяцев назад
NZ has to much influence in this discussion. Franchise, SA and England have powerful scrums. Not sure they are going to buy into the changes. If the idea is to neuter the boks by nz, it will backfire we will simply retred surplus flankers to mobile props. We have plenty of top quality guys who can't get a look in atm.
@itistrue101
@itistrue101 6 месяцев назад
you're new to Rugby? The IRB has been the NH old boys club since its inception.
@Keizer_Soze
@Keizer_Soze 6 месяцев назад
been watching rugby all my life. hands-down, the best sport in the world. if they remove the jackal...i'm out. for. good. this will not be "rugby" anymore. if this goes through, the emasculation / woke-a-fication of rugby would've won...but lost a lifelong supporter. the'fck outta here with those dumb fking law changes! 😒
@fritzboonzaaier5192
@fritzboonzaaier5192 6 месяцев назад
I believe cards ruin games. Rugby is 15v15. Players can still receive the cards,but dont send them off,unless red,then you substitute them. After the game the referees can watch the game and decide on player bans for wrong behaviour. Cards go with penalties,and could be 3pts everytime,or possible lineout maul tries. Espesially if a forward was sent off. Keep it 15v15 at all times. Just my thoughts
@murrayjohn8608
@murrayjohn8608 6 месяцев назад
Great content agian: Stop fiddling with the Scrum. More use of the shot clock is just going to add more confusion. Mark a restart is idiotic, the ball is just going to get kicked back to the other 22. Maul law is fine as it is. Scrum-half rule is fine. Dupont law ffs, let's quickly go back to the old get behind, or be put onside by the kicker rule. 20-minute red card is bollocks. Role of TMO ... too involved, there's a need for common sense on 50-50 calls that are rugby incidents, One example is the "no arms tackle in open play", where the player is already tackling below the knee and the attacker is dipping into top of the defender's shoulder and its impossible to wrap. There are 50 of these tackles on the try line every game, but in open play these 50-50 below the knee tackles are called by the TMO, not the refereee or assistants and result in penalties that decide games, or result in penalty kicks into the 22 that 25% of the time result in maul based tries.
@tobysmeiman6921
@tobysmeiman6921 6 месяцев назад
Aimed at Boks scrumming power. But there is way around it. Rassie wil find a way to come with come new strategies. Our new team 2 locks 1 flyhalf and fullback. The rest all flankers big fast fellas fluke all scrums. No backline required. These big guys will break hips in the opposing backline. Stupid, stupendous. This will kill us older fans. Crocrolls are not dangerous, ask any mma fighter. Will this lead eventually to a second wr organisation.
@luvuyompapa9366
@luvuyompapa9366 6 месяцев назад
This is for my Springboks ....however Doctor Rassie is ahead of the game.we own this rugby game. FACT!!!! You all will be crying bloody in 2027.
@markrutherford6010
@markrutherford6010 6 месяцев назад
The best law change is the 20 minute red card.We are getting way too many red cards in our game. In horse racing we have handicap races.In rugby do we really need the rugby handicap 14???? That rugby World Cup final was rugby handicap 14.Do we really want handicap event??? The fans demand a fair contest!! We are getting too many red cards for wrong tackle height!!!
@chiva2507
@chiva2507 4 месяца назад
"Rugby" is a Bullshit "sport". Young man,there"s Golf Cricket and cycling.!! don"t let a whistle or a simple card,destroy your live.!!
@scottsullivan5016
@scottsullivan5016 6 месяцев назад
I’d be in favour of a 20 minute red card if came with a reduction in subs allowed to - say about 5. Rugby has long since ceased being a 15 man game - its now a 23 man game. If you make it a 20 man game and introduce 20 minute red cards teams would still be disadvantaged significantly (for example by brining on a replacement TH much earlier than planned) but without making the result a foregone conclusion
@shinsvantil8642
@shinsvantil8642 6 месяцев назад
this is inane....nobody will watch rugby anymore....red cards should be managed like yellow cards except that the offender is not allowed back on the field but a replacement is allowed after 10 minutes....NOBODY wants to see a numerical disadvantage on the field for most of the game due to some silly error by a player that was not done with malice....
@bobbler42
@bobbler42 6 месяцев назад
Scrums may be integral to the game, scrummaging is not. It has become a time soak where the team that flops to the ground in the most appealing fashion gets the advantage. Re 20 min red cards: twaddle. Every concussion increases cte risk. No sport is worth a chronic brain injury. If you cannot pay your opponent the courtesy of not risking same to them for an advantage lasting at most 80 minutes, you shouldn’t get to inflict yourself on others’ leisure.
@w00000
@w00000 5 месяцев назад
Shot-clock is ridiculous as scrums require contact to be made between the two teams (unlike kicks...) and this would make it impossible to determine which team is responsible for purposefully slowing it down upon the initiation of the timer (thus allowing it to exploited via deceptive tactics!)??
@jackfire2189
@jackfire2189 6 месяцев назад
Caterpillars and kick tennis have already turned people off, and both need to go immediately. No mention of feeding the scrum, which is an abomination of contestable play. The 3 point drop goal should be looked at, Allowing marks from kick-offs is an atrocious decision, its cowardly and is often an abuse of open play. The knock-ons by the scrum half at the base of rucks and scrums is another inconsistency, why do the referees let them keep placing the ball on the ground, that's a clear rule break. The use it should be three seconds only. These rule changes don't address the many problems of the game.
@simonwatkins8754
@simonwatkins8754 6 месяцев назад
Limit subs to 5. 3 forwards and 2 backs. Bigger men will then get tired more quickly and will leave a lot more space on the pitch in the last quarter. Wording of line out proposal is very unclear. Can hooker throw it straight to scrum half🏉😀😀
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 6 месяцев назад
You can’t put a timer on every scrum - but, surely to God, they must STOP the game clock for every (frequent) scrum re-set ….. an absolute no-brainer - 4-minutes to achieve one successful scrum is completely deranging.
@kristianberg6886
@kristianberg6886 4 месяца назад
Does it not make it more confusing for people new to rugby, these constant law changes?!? The exact people they are trying to attract! What do they have against scrums …. There is already a game without scrums - rugby league!!
@ortforshort7652
@ortforshort7652 5 месяцев назад
Scrums are part of the charm of the game. Eliminating them would be lunacy. Timing the scrums and lineouts is the answer if your opinion is that they are time wasters As far as South Africans being paranoid about the rule changes. You bet they are. It's not the fans or the players, but management for teams like England, Australia and New Zealand are flat out sore losers. And they're the ones who are doing all the bellyaching to make these changes
@ecoetzee5291
@ecoetzee5291 6 месяцев назад
Alfie it’s quite obvious, IRB wants to ensure there’s a new champ in 2027. What they don’t realise is that Rassie already saw some of these coming. I heard someone say last week, look at the type of players he’s bringing in and grooming now for a year or more.
@carlh296
@carlh296 6 месяцев назад
On the Red card issue, England ladies lost the world cup final because of a very early red, 1st or second minute I think it was. Nothing malicious, yes it was a red, but it was a stupid, just started the game lets get into it moment. It ruined the game. I'd like to think the black ferns also think it ruined the game a bit too, if they are honest, because England were the favorites, and I'm sure the black ferns would have liked to beat a full strength England, not a 14 ladie England.
@stephportablepagan8759
@stephportablepagan8759 6 месяцев назад
Agree Alfred. the jackal isn't the problem, the problem is players flopping into the ruck ones it's formed and flying in off their feet. Make it that if your not part of th initial ruck you can't join it after. Ref signals ruck and that's it.Would speed up rucks too.
@propellerhead428
@propellerhead428 6 месяцев назад
I have not heard 1 Rugby fan, in a stadium, in a Pub or in front of TV complain about a game going on a bit longer because of getting the scrum right? The same issue with making the game faster or more "theater", changing the game is not going to get new people in a stadium or in front of a TV, WR needs to spearhead development at the school level in non-Rugby countries.
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 6 месяцев назад
Anything that limits bogus water-boy antics is a good thing in my book. Garbisi’s last minute penalty kick vs France sealed it for me - disgraceful.
@thecuttingsark5094
@thecuttingsark5094 6 месяцев назад
The water boy should never be on the field. Players can drink at half time.
@colinpeck8257
@colinpeck8257 6 месяцев назад
We know refs are killing the game with their biased decisians, why have southern hem.refs referring the 6 nations different interpretations & Aussie bias against England team...stop it..
@johnberry9840
@johnberry9840 6 месяцев назад
Aaaand stillll the undisputed rugby union champions of the world ….!!! Nice to see so many salty AB supporters in the chat…
@christogerber5566
@christogerber5566 6 месяцев назад
Just sad, and don't get me wrong I understand that there are legitimate safety concerns, that we try to "run away" from the contact part of this great contact sport. You do not see boxing and MMA doing this.
@GoldenbanjoDJ
@GoldenbanjoDJ 6 месяцев назад
Where oh where is the discussion on the very worst law in history - goal line dropout to defending team for holding the attacking team’s ball up when trying to score a try. Terrible and sickening law
@phelansa23
@phelansa23 6 месяцев назад
It is utter BS! If I wanted to watch Rugby League i would. These clowns are killing Union!
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
If you want true athletes just watch the NRL 2023 final..pissed all over the RWC final with Bollard kicking goals FFS
@phelansa23
@phelansa23 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisr5499 sure the NRL is better. 😂😂😂😂. Thats why all the big money follows Union. You might as well watch Meurican Football. No thank you.
@jonathonwhitiora8102
@jonathonwhitiora8102 6 месяцев назад
rugby World Cup third most watched sports event after FIFA soccer World Cup and the Olympic Games on the world sports scene as for NRL league no wear near Rugby Union on the international scene @@chrisr5499
@DarkstarMonday
@DarkstarMonday 6 месяцев назад
World rugby ruining the game for the world of rugby. Game is becoming similar to touch rugby.
@hendrikcoetzer7234
@hendrikcoetzer7234 6 месяцев назад
changing a red card to 20min will be great then you can totally fuck up someone in the first minute and still have 60 min to play. please change that law
@robinpengelley2123
@robinpengelley2123 6 месяцев назад
I wonder which team is best at scrums,mauls,jackels and tactical subs. 👀
@murielpainter4839
@murielpainter4839 6 месяцев назад
Only ten minutes for red-card foul play? Now they can all play like Owen Farrell, dirtiest player of all time.
@Smithy-i8y
@Smithy-i8y 6 месяцев назад
Talk about differing views on the same subject. Personally I can’t stand the Jackal. I feel many a promising attack is penalised when a player gets his hands on the ball, not to rip it away, but prevent release and gain a penalty. I also feel that being in that position is an injury risk to the defender. I’m not sure we will ever get back to subs being limited, but I believe props are now so big they can’t last a full game, and they aren’t being used to push forward anymore, rather to create a collapse in the hope the ref sides with the bigger more powerful scrum, which is usually the case. Many disagree with me. I’ve no problem with rolling mauls and see no need to change that, many disagree. I don’t think we should encourage crooked throws, few are straight anyway, but you yourself Alfie are in favour with this new proposal. We all love the game but we all can’t agree. At the end of the day we have tweaked rules so much the game doesn’t feel like it bears any relation to what it was. We are in danger of making it t all about the referee, if it isn’t already? (And we all know it is.)
@kevinrudd9257
@kevinrudd9257 6 месяцев назад
I. am starting to struggle with all the constant changes. i think i might be done with it.
@blackmonday5295
@blackmonday5295 5 месяцев назад
1 red card may not ruin a game but a 2nd and a 3rd will. The 20 min rule will give referees more freedom to give 2nd and 3rd red cards.
@TheRadRingo
@TheRadRingo 4 месяца назад
Saffa will have to start training forwards as backline players to start running lighties of their feet.
@cairozulu6700
@cairozulu6700 6 месяцев назад
I like qrugby though there is still a lot to learn about it. What I would like toknow is what has prompted these laws.
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 6 месяцев назад
And the title for the most whiny and insecure supporters goes to…. We all know.
@pheasantplucker6117
@pheasantplucker6117 6 месяцев назад
I have big issues with the maul on the line. If the player at the back has the the ball waiting to flop over the line. Then all the players in front of the ball are offside. (Bound or not) Not to mention that if the ball ends up at the front then at some point it must have gone forward. Brought with issues.
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 6 месяцев назад
I agree
@divotdigger247
@divotdigger247 6 месяцев назад
Why not just go ahead and change the laws so that SA are not allowed to win under any circumstances
@eduardvictor711
@eduardvictor711 6 месяцев назад
It seems you agree with all the changes it's all against South Africa so baai
@retlwiz
@retlwiz 6 месяцев назад
I hate the jackal because it’s 99% of the time geared to getting a penalty and stopping the game, so it’s a negative tactic. Going back to obliging players to release the ball when tackled would bring more rucking back in, but is that a bad thing? Not sure what the answer is, but anything that cuts down the relentless flow of penalties has to be good. Scrums and line-outs are way too slow, but the rest to me is pretty much ok. Apart from if you change the line-out to not being penalised for not being straight when it’s uncontested you’ll get a load of crooked lineout throws with token attempts to contest and refs having to go the TMO and judge if it was contested or not, etc - a mess! Leave that one as it is, please. I also don’t mind mauls taking a bit of time - at least the ball is in play then, as opposed to stopping for penalties. And yes, leave the kick-off alone - it’s fine.
@stanvanrensburg6620
@stanvanrensburg6620 6 месяцев назад
I couldnt agree more mate. As a Bok fan i LOVE the jackal because we are one of the better teams to use it but hate playing against another team using it well. So i am massively in favor of removing the jackal!
@HeeniKeke
@HeeniKeke 6 месяцев назад
South Africans having huge “whine fest” now 😂😂😂
@stanvanrensburg6620
@stanvanrensburg6620 6 месяцев назад
Not at all cuz! We are more than happy with all law changes that are are out to change our play... Dr Rassie will just find other ways to win :) Warm Regards, FOUR time world champs, back-to-back RWC holders and current world no.1 🤣🤣🤣😘
@richardworley7798
@richardworley7798 6 месяцев назад
Make Rucks safer, bring back rucking!
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
That will never happen in this day and age.
@marcdaniels9079
@marcdaniels9079 6 месяцев назад
You just knew this would get the Saffas all hot under the collar 😅😅😅 Comments section hilarious
@mikelambrou4462
@mikelambrou4462 6 месяцев назад
Whilst they are reviewing the laws I’d like to see the choke tackle banned - a blight on the game. How is it that a team can hold the ball up, the ref calls a maul and then the defending team immediately collapse the maul a win a turnover. If you collapse a maul set from a line out it’s a penalty to the team in possession. Madness.
@charliebannon5489
@charliebannon5489 6 месяцев назад
Yes, ban the Dupont law
@feliscorax
@feliscorax 6 месяцев назад
I reckon World Rugby has got this one arse about face. If anything, it’s the yellow card that could do with some tinkering - whether 15 minutes or 20 minutes duration - with the red card remaining a whole of game sending off. The goal should be to disincentivise deliberately foul and dangerous play whilst retaining innate fairness in the game. For the sake of player protection, I sincerely hope this 20 minute red card “unnovation” doesn’t lead to counter-productive results where player welfare is concerned, and especially, that it isn’t abused by canny teams looking to negate an opposition talisman or two…
@feliscorax
@feliscorax 6 месяцев назад
- or, y’know, they could just leave things exactly as they are now. After all, it isn’t broken, neither is it in need of repair.
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
When you say foul play then what was old school Rucking
@johanopperman3275
@johanopperman3275 6 месяцев назад
Go watch league, problem solved
@gkmarais
@gkmarais 6 месяцев назад
Cool. SA can play 3 ball carrying loose forwards in the front row. Engage early to give away a free kick.
@garysmith5025
@garysmith5025 6 месяцев назад
The obvious problem with that is the front row players have to be declared as having sufficient training to play in those positions. Even if team management took that risk, persistent early engagement would result in penalties and then yellow cards. Apart from those issues you've found a fantastic loophole
@davidross1481
@davidross1481 6 месяцев назад
WR fiddle to correct their constant mistakes
@MeiA-h9r
@MeiA-h9r 6 месяцев назад
World Rugby: The Boks won again World Rugby: Change the Rules
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
The AB's have won 3 world cups and scored 8 trys in total...South Africa have won the world cup 4 times and only scored 2 tries and that was the Japan final in 2019...remember Rugby is about running with the ball and not kicking it out....I think South Africa should leave Rugby Union and join Aussie Rules...plus you can not sell out crowds in your own country.
@MeiA-h9r
@MeiA-h9r 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisr5499 ok stats guy How many runs did Australia score to win the cricket World Cup? How many goals did Argentina score in the World Cup in Qatar? NOBODY CARES!!!!! No one cares!!!! It’s about winning the World Cup . The most goals, most runs, most tries don’t win get the trophy in the end, it’s about winning the game And Rich for you to defend the All blacks who won their home World Cup with a score line of (8-7) “very entertaining” that was. Don’t you worry about our crowds, worry about the declining attendance in Super Rugby Pacific and the near bankrupt clubs in England cause they seem to have everything in order
@TaydoS
@TaydoS 6 месяцев назад
​@@chrisr5499 ABs have also lost 2 WC finals against the Boks with their attacking rugby. Should've had 5 titles if their attack was better in those finals. By the way: 2 of those AB WC wins were at home in NZ.
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
@@MeiA-h9rI thought Rugby ws about running with the ball not kicking it away....leave that to AFL and Soccer.
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
@@TaydoSI like it when the Boks play open Rugby and so much talent in the backs but hardly used just look at Cheslin Kolbe in 2019 final as hardly touched the ball until the last 10 minutes and in which he got a great try.
@straights
@straights 6 месяцев назад
RED CARDS RUIN Games, That's fact. Everyone blamed the draw being on too early when the 5 best teams in the competition were drawn in pools 1 + 2 for the world cup. What they fail to remember is that Wales were ranked 4th. Not because of their skill, but because in 2021 both Ireland and Scotland received Red Cards early in their games against Wales and lost narrowly but still lost. Both Scotland and Ireland were far better teams than Wales in 2021 but were made to pay by a newly introduced tackle height that saw 1 in every 3 games seeing a red card. Wales themselves lost a World cup semi final in 2011 because Alain Rolland issued a red card (unfairly) to Sam Warburton in a tackle that would not even see yellow in todays game. There are countless great games and great victories that were never to be on account of a red card being as costly as losing an arm. Blame the player, not the team. Sanction them for 3 months 4 months a year whatever you need to do but don't decide the fate of the match on one players slip up. 20 minutes needs to be introduced. A red card in the first half of the game is an automatic loss and if not, well then they could have won by a landslide anyway. 10 years ago the commentators would always say that if you only conceded 7-10 points during a yellow card then you did well during this sin bin period. They certainly don't say that now but go back and watch any old game from 10+ years ago and listen to the commentary when a team gets a yellow card.
@richardworley7798
@richardworley7798 6 месяцев назад
I agree players should get longer bans for reds, if the powers that be really want change in tackle height, it should be more than 3-4 games.
@davidwalker2402
@davidwalker2402 6 месяцев назад
Springboks need to get over themselves, its not all about them 😂 world rugby just believe they can get the rugby world playing the beautiful game like Ireland 😂
@NickSchoonwinkel
@NickSchoonwinkel 6 месяцев назад
joker
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 6 месяцев назад
Verbal diarrhea
@davidwalker2402
@davidwalker2402 6 месяцев назад
@@Darren_S where you bursting to get that out 🤣🤣🤣
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 6 месяцев назад
@@davidwalker2402 I burst out with laughter, yeah.
@chrisr5499
@chrisr5499 6 месяцев назад
At least Ireland ...even Wales can pack out crowds bit South frican Rugby can not be it against Argentina, most URC games and Currie Cups.
@jackdarby8904
@jackdarby8904 6 месяцев назад
I feel like most of these are really good changes!
@user-mkru
@user-mkru 6 месяцев назад
Red/Yellow cards make it dangerous for players. You have 14 players trying to stop 15. It's very uneven. Change the rule. On a yellow you can immediately bring on a sub and the player chased off can be used again as a sub after 10 min. On a red card you can immediately bring on a sub but the player chased off is not permitted to take further part in the game. The tackle problem was introduced when player were permitted to "place" the ball after being tackled. Holding onto the ball on the ground making it difficult for the opposition to get hold of the ball. The AB's then started tackling the ball to get the ball causing the high tackle problem. Change the rule. If you hit the ground you leave the ball and roll away with the tackler. End of high tackle problem.
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