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If you didn't see the video before I sent it to Ruger, link is below. Unfortunately due to it being a firearm and time frame I had (with trust in Ruger) with the rifle a refund isn't plausible only way is to sell it is privately or trade it in to a pawn or gun shop but I wouldn't do that to the next person as they would still have this issue and it's not fair in my opinion so I'm not going to do that. Instead I showed how to fix the issue which will apply to the Ruger American as well....they definitely should not call this a precision rifle by any stretch with the tolerance issues....hope you guys enjoyed the video as I don't put up with the BS from anyone or brand...the videos I make are 100% truthful and honest whether people like it or not, my findings have been backed up by several industry leaders in several markets and my own co workers, who we are some of the best engineers in automation industry that solve complex problems daily...Thanks for watching as always....ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OwT0o8F8Src.htmlsi=b0onLQG75UMneRUB
The need to get rid of that plastic stock, and machine a nice aluminum one, with tight tolerances! If want to stay in the game, Ruger, you need to do better!!!!
Seems to me you are binding between the bolt face and the barrel chamber. Check the bolt face and barrel chamber for a burr. If you are binding at the bolt face and chamber it will likely kick the rear of the bolt off to the side. The rim on rimfire ammo also varies in thickness. Especially with lower end ammo. Your headspace could be too tight for the rim thickness on the ammo you are using. Something else that could possibly be contributing to it is the barrel nut is torqued to tight.. Barrel nut torque, head spacing can not only screw with accuracy, but also function. Just by watching the video it looked like you was putting more effort into locking the bolt down than you should need to. Raising the bolt up a little is taking the pressure of whatever is binding and why the bolt doesn’t kick out in the back. Removing the barrel and putting a thin shim between the barrel and receiver would likely fix the issue. Polishing the front of the bolt and barrel would likely do it as well. Not saying that’s for sure it. But it’s likely..
One word: JBWeld. Make a small mound where the bolt meets the chassis, then whittle it down to where it has to be. Or, put a dab on the chassis, cover it with plastic wrap and close the bolt while the JB sets up. (If you're like me, you'll find a way without involving Ruger.) Which reminds me... the magazine slop... I didn't like losing sight of my RPR at the range, so a bug up my butt got me to paint the chassis. Interesting how three coats of spray paint eliminated the slop.
My suggestion is the problem is you. No crown cap or thread protector, you shoot Knuckle trigger, Eye cringe. RELAX when you tense up your not going to shoot anywhere close.
David has the answer. Will look better than gluing some doo-dad on there and will be adjustable with wear. Lucas McCain had great luck with his stop screw! lol
@@LukeR1MNo....my comment was generalized. S&W has put out many pistols, semi autos, that are inaccurate POS. I actually like the 15/22. Especially their magazines which I use all the time in my 22 AR conversions.
@@mlone7Alright. Thanks for clarifying. I was a bit worried when you both mentioned S&W. 15-22 seems to be pretty good value from what I've seen so far.
None of those magazines should "Wiggle" The BX-15 and BX-25 magazines are shorter in length. Bad manufacturing and engineering issues. Nothing more. Should never have been made like that. You should send them this video as evidence and what the problem is.
First off, your ammo needs to be match grade. I can hit sub MOA with my RPR 22LR shooting with wolf match grade ammo. And what scope are you using? A good friend of mine can hit a Gnats ass at 50 yards every time. Maybe it not the arrow, it's the Indian?
I have bought a few Ruger rifles, never found them to be anything to crow about in terms of accuracy or trigger pull. For any rifle I buy that is a "production" gun I figure that I am on my own, you have to tune the weapon yourself, address the flaws that contribute to lack of accuracy. It is an adventure and be aware there are limits to how much accuracy you can squeeze out of a production gun. I have always enjoyed very high accuracy with Savage and Marlin rifles, Ruger cannot hold a candle to the way these competitive brands shoot and that said even though I had cheap production models of .22 WMR and .17 HMR.
It's a shame they call it a Precision rifle. I think there are better guns out there. Also try some Elley subsonic, apparently it performs better than what you're using. R
James, if there is a decent Gunsmith close by, it should be easy work for him to build up the surface of the bolt handle that you're having to shim, and then work it back down to proper tolerance. I'm sure that you've likely considered this... You may know a good tig welder that could handle the welding and then you could handle the fitting... Believe me, I know how Ruger is with situations just like this one! Back in the 80s, I bought one of their new stainless Mark II Target pistols, with the 5 1/2 in. bull barrel, adj. target sights. Didn't take long to run into a failure to eject problem that was chronic across all brands of .22lr ammo that I had on hand. Examining the bore and chamber with a bore light, I could see that the front 1/3 of the chamber had not been cut and finished! It was rough and deeper than the rest of the finished chamber and that was what was causing the chronic extraction failures! I spent a lot of time explaining all of this to Ruger both on the phone and in a letter that I included with the pistol when I sent it back for "warranty repair"... After several weeks, I received the pistol. Ruger installed a new extractor and extractor spring... The pistol continued to provide chronic extraction failures and the chamber condition remained... I've said it before and I'll continue to say this, After Willian Ruger passed away, and his son took over the company, this has been an on-going problem that William Ruger would never have allowed to happen. Like dropping the original model 77 rifles, what fools move that was! But, greed and stupidity is the new rule of the day in many American businesses these days...
IMO, the bolt issue is easily fixed by Ruger by rotating the bolt handle attachment point X.XX degrees so when it seats on the receiver, the fire pin is then at the 12:00 position. But spending money on tooling changes isn’t likely to happen when they’re "value engineering" the product. Cost savings trumps accuracy, customer satisfaction and future sales. It’s increasingly difficult for manufacturers to hide their known quality issues when social media points them out repeatedly. For everyone who watches these very objective videos, I’m sure there are a lot of people (like myself) who are dissuaded from spending our money on a product with known deficiencies. My brother has this gun and I was considering getting one for myself…until now! Instead, I’m now upgrading the 4X scope on my Marlin Glenfield Model 60 that I bought in 1976, and see how she shoots.
I too can attest to the 15 round magazine having more slop. If your going into competition with this thing, only use the 10 round magazine as that will keep the cartridge more closely aligned to the chamber. It's no CZ, but I have found this thing to shoot pretty well for me with CCI SV. Hoping to see if SK standard plus or rifle match improve group sizes.
Thank you for this video. I bought a RPR. I had to work on the bolt so the flat spring that holds the casing against the extractor works right, but I am not getting the accuracy I want. I know this will help. Your videos are MUCH more helpful than others. I am an old mossback workholding designer, so I appreciate your methods and viewpoint. Ruger really dropped the ball on a great opportunity with loose tolerances and poor quality control. Corporate management sucks.
Thanks, currently shooting an all factory 1022 target lite with 20" hammer forge barrel, and shes grouping 1/4" groups at 50yd consistently with SK RM so we're gonna see how well it does against my friends CZ and Bergara in my upcoming ARA Factory class match
They all have receiver movement like mine did. I fixed it myself with two diy spacers one on the bolt by the mag well and on the back support inside the lower receiver. the mags always had a little play im glad i seen this video
Just cheked mine and it does the same, but i found that when i cock it and the lever is all the way down i just lift it up a few milimeters and the bolt straighten it self out just fine…. Thanks for the video 👍
They are on sale, right now, for $342 at Farm and Home Supply. They may not be as accurate as a $1500 set up, but a lot of other youtubers, are sure enjoying theirs!
Shot mine about 100 rounds and no problem. I had a tight group at 50 yards and 100. Sorry to here so many with problems but I would still recommend it to a friend. I love mine.
On bolt slop... after watching this last night, I just HAD to get my RPR out and check it over (as though I haven't the last half dozen years!). Anyway, I didn't have a lot of bolt slop, but got to tinkering and discovered the bolt release lever, when pushed, jiggled the bolt a little. So Curious Me got to wondering if that might be what's causing your grief. Check 'er out. I find it interesting that a few people have had problems with their RPRs. I've been shooting mine about 4K rounds a year for nearly six years and it just keeps getting better and better. Now that I've gone blind in my right eye, that rifle will take up the slack from the right hand shooters (due to custom stocks) and get more rounds. Surprises me that I have to learn to shoot all anew at my age. Life is S-T-R-A-N-G-E! Quite the adventure. Anyway, happy shooting.
I wonder how many rifles they sent out with barrels that were over machined. Ruger's QC missed it, twice, frustrating. 60 rounds down range and no one questioned its accuracy, scary and frustrating.
I was thinking instead of using a piece of zip tie why don’t you solder something more permanent and attach a piece of blued metal so that it holds permanently instead of just gluing a piece of zip tie. Soldering on a small piece of blue metal would be a more reliable backstop to prevent your bolt from going any further than where you want it to be.
Just wanted to offer you information. I too have searched for a solution to this problem. In the end your idea kinda works...but this is my findings. The issue is that the bolt rotates too far to the right and is not level or faced propperly...the problem is all in the firing pin. The rear is sharp. It holds on spring and rotates bolt. Fix... clean up rear of firing pin and polish. It doesn't have to be flat just smooth. No burrs. Also polish spring ends with 1500 grit paper. Lube and reassemble. Bolt then uses guide intended to keep it straight and level. foot note giving you credit in pointing out problem. It prompted me to dig deeper. Thank you.
They have a design problem there. The design is decent but not for their mass production techniques and quality control. It should have been designed such that there is no way to get it wrong. Notice that some other companies use a button that slides in the slot behind the bolt handle? Anshutz is one and the new CZ uses a big rectangular guide. I wonder why you couldn't attach something that does the same?
I have a few questions please? I own a RPR Rimfire and compete n ARA matches with it just checked mine and it does the same thing. What were your average scores and did you try different ammunition? I’ve tried a few in mine and so far it likes lapua center-x and pistol king the best. It likes SK auto match but it has a flyer about once every 20 rounds or so. I’m averaging about 2100 per card but slowly getting better (only been in 3 competitions so far with the RPR) just wondering if I need to try fix mine or keep practicing and see if breaking it in helps it a lot. Thank you.
My Ruger bolt is like your new one. Nice and snug but when cocked the back isnt lined up perfect. Mine is shooting moa with garbage ammo. I am going to try it next week with the bolt slightly lifted and see what it does. I personally dont have a problem with the way mine is shooting. I dont think I even have 75 rounds through it yet so the barrel isnt even broken in yet but I like to experiment. I have a list of 8 things pointed out my other posters. My gun doesnt have any of them except for yours #9.
Shoot good match ammo off a sturdy bench and you will quickly realize the "bolt slop" is a non factor. I've shot 90% and better in NRL22 Competitions with mine. CCI Standard is good practice ammo. But we all know better than to put pump gas in a race car.
Good video mine is the same way and it’s been sent in to Ruger also mine was putting marks on the 40 grain solid bullets like it had a burr or something in the chamber
Very happy to see Ruger fixed the problem for you SOME HOW, and hope they never let them leave house like before. Good job to you and Ruger. I own a few Rugers and they always stand up for the products they make. I hope you would send it back again and give Ruger the feed back.
Exactly, either bolt or receiver tolerances....they probably shot with a proven gauged /tested bolt and just grabbed a new one from the bin and threw it in the box especially since it was so tight at the beginning then loosened up after 10 shots
I have thought ruger was junk just based on the factory trigger pull that was on my 10/22 bought in 1984, have never bought another ruger and never will
I liked your comment that the tech must have changed the bolt again after shooting 60 shots ( as if he did 60 shots and the group was 12 inches at 50 yards he wouldn't call it fixed) but maybe he shot it at 10 yards just to check function, seems more plausible that they would have an indoor range at 10 yards, maybe 50 feet but definitely not 50 yards not like Lapua test center.
Bought mine just about a month ago. Same issue with CCI standard with a 6” spread at 50 yards. Can’t call it a group when my 12 gauges will pattern tighter at the same distance lol. I’ll have to have a closer look and see if mine is showing the same issues as shown here on this video. I did find that my RPR shot sub MOA at the same distance with high velocity rounds. Around 1270 fps with 40gn RN, regardless of brand. At least mine doesn’t have super expensive taste😂.
Six inch spread is the rifle telling you it needs a better diet. How well do the HP rounds fare at 200 yards? FedAM groups well to 100 for me, but past that they go for lunch. CCISV does well enough. My Savage will only digest RWS, so I'm glad the Ruger is a bit more conservative.
@@knokname6466 Over the last 4 weeks, the weather has been improving in my area and I've been able to test quite a number of different ammo. Over the last week and a half, I've been shooting Sellier and Bellot Canadian Match (cheap), SK High Velocity (Mid), and RWS Match (Mid). With SK HV, I have been getting 2", 10 round groups, at 200 meters (219 yards) consistently. I've also been getting 4" groups at 300 meters (328 yards) consistently. I need a better scope to improve my 300 meter performance. All the ammo I previously mentioned performed excellent at 100 Meters (109 yards). Consistent
Two guys in our club bought Ruger Precision Rifires, the quality control was poor to say the least. Both barrels were not tight problems with the bolt, plus the system screws were unevenly torqued.
@@knokname6466 Both rifles bought at the same store, on the same day. All torque settings were different, and not the settings that were in the manual. Plus there was a flyer in with the rifles with different torque settings.
@@mlone7 It does strike the bullet in different positions depending on how I close the bolt. I can't actually afford to post the gun to America for treatment. I wouldn't bother anyway cos when I bought it a cap screw fell out in a field and the guard over the barell was jingling around(( It is what it is.
@@STKO2011 well, My Friend, you can find comfort knowing that you saved other people from that purchase. Unfortunately you took one for the team but you helped out the community. And for that I say thank you.
