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CAT 318 with a stuck governor or fuel rail trying to bring her back to life. glad i was ready or things could have got real bad cus there ant much room in there.

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@SamRFixes
@SamRFixes 10 лет назад
That small engine you hear running is the pony engine, its used to start the larger cat engine.
@hamish2202
@hamish2202 8 лет назад
What brand are the pony motors run so shit and how many cc are they why don't they use Briggs and straton the other ones sound like a buckette of shit
@mog5858
@mog5858 8 лет назад
cat made there own motors they about about 10 hp. i think it's the horizontal apposed that make them sound so loud plus there running at 3600 rpm when all right. it dose need some more tlc but i was just trying to get the big one running so i could move it home.
@ScaleCarModels
@ScaleCarModels 11 лет назад
You are brave for being in there but you were prepared. Also after reading some comments I figured out what was going on. I didn't realize you had a pony motor starting it.
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 Год назад
If I was you there, I would have probably messes my pants and would had runaway as fast as I can to whatever place I could that was the furthest away from that engine. Nice that you could stop the beast in time!
@mog5858
@mog5858 Год назад
thanks she run sweet now
@samsterstormhobbies
@samsterstormhobbies 11 лет назад
wow that is flipping scary man i would not go in a room that tight with a internal combustion engine that was that old and when i am trying to bring it back to life
@seawind0721
@seawind0721 10 лет назад
OK, this looks like a gas-powered starter motor used to crank the diesel.
@pity_6095
@pity_6095 3 года назад
It is except it's a diesel
@1693caterpillar
@1693caterpillar 10 лет назад
Thats the proper way to do it (cut off the air supply) .
@mog5858
@mog5858 10 лет назад
thanks
@TheGoodChap
@TheGoodChap 9 лет назад
He was anticipating it and was prepared to deal with the problem as soon as it occurred. If I were in his (literal) position I would do the same thing.
@shadowthehedgehog4737
@shadowthehedgehog4737 6 лет назад
At the school I go to, we've got a 51 liter CAT V-12. It was pulled out of a tugboat because it no longer met emissions standards and was basically a giant paperweight for CAT, so they donated it to the school as a working standalone unit. It has a massive 150 gallon oil pan, and it produces 1200 horsepower at 1200 rpm redline, but has an emergency override top speed of 1400 rpm. The engine will tear itself apart, but it allows quick movements against current to catch a runaway barge before it plows into something like a bridge or a levee.
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 Год назад
So little rpm increase causes a engine grenade? crazy.
@SlickD217
@SlickD217 8 лет назад
if all else fails start stuffing your socks and undies into the turbo... lol
@mog5858
@mog5858 7 лет назад
no turbo on
@Iowarail
@Iowarail 11 лет назад
Hell Yes, loose clothing and turning pulleys and machinery. Great stuff. Well almost.
@philn6551
@philn6551 9 лет назад
Stop the air the engine stops. It is not rocket science. LOL
@Rytinis
@Rytinis 4 года назад
Ik its an old comment but would you stick your fingers into the fucking turvine?
@66Oliver
@66Oliver 4 года назад
Bass Police You use you’re palm bud...
@masonwengeler3332
@masonwengeler3332 4 года назад
66Oliver never use ur hand, can suck your hand in backwards, or when it backfires at the end, blow fingers off
@canadoodlez5009
@canadoodlez5009 Год назад
You know a video is gonna be good when it looks like it was filmed with a crayon
@mog5858
@mog5858 Год назад
sorry but things have come a long way in 10 years. plus it was below freezing. no one forced you to watch it.
@canadoodlez5009
@canadoodlez5009 Год назад
@@mog5858 lol idc about the quality of the camera, the quality of the video is way more important 🙂
@acprimus631C
@acprimus631C 7 лет назад
Good to see another NW going again. Try squeezing around one with a Murphy MP11...you'll feel claustrophobic!
@jman866
@jman866 3 года назад
Hello from Thailand 🇹🇭🇹🇭🙏🙏
@fossilknifeful
@fossilknifeful 11 лет назад
Haha it's called a runaway not cause you loose control of the engine but when it happens all the techs in the shop runaway
@ericbrunius7173
@ericbrunius7173 11 лет назад
You are talking about a turbocharged engine that can run away from a bad turbo seal causing the engine to self propetuate. This is obviously a normally aspirated engine, so no turbo. He had a stuck fuel rail which will not throttle back the fuel delivery once the engine reaches its governed speed. Depending on where the fuel rail is stuck, it can give full fuel delivery until connecting rods fly into the stratosphere. Stuck fuel rail can actually run away higher than fed from turbo seal
@flaplaya
@flaplaya 11 лет назад
It seems there are quite a few couch critics here... Nice work mog5858!
@eugenesnow862
@eugenesnow862 10 лет назад
Man with balls of steel.
@crazyjc15
@crazyjc15 10 лет назад
it took me a while to figure it out, and im not sure i have it completely, but the engine that's running threw the video is some kind of generator for starting the big CAT behind it right? its sounds like a small single cylinder gas motor.
@themanginaman
@themanginaman 10 лет назад
quick thinking, great work.
@MalcolmMacgregorSound
@MalcolmMacgregorSound 11 лет назад
Some of the generators i work with have Chalwyn valves for this purpose, cut the air intake and the engine chokes itself without any mechanical damage :)
@igorartemchuk2761
@igorartemchuk2761 11 лет назад
It seems like quite a few people are mistaking the gasoline pony motor for the runaway. Pony's are for starting the large diesel and are generally this loud, it is functioning normally, the diesel only runs for a little while
@robwells5753
@robwells5753 6 лет назад
good vid i like the old Cat iron too💪
@sivalley
@sivalley 11 лет назад
High power diesels often 'dope' the air with propane to boost torque. Failed propane regulator and you have an explosion hazard from backfire and runaway. Fun stuff I learned from my air-dale buddies when I was in the navy
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
thanks for the info what 44k fuel treatment ?
@centralontariotireguy
@centralontariotireguy 10 лет назад
Not a diesel guy but the runaway vids usually show diesel engines revving to the moon with people scrambling to shut it down
@scotty2307
@scotty2307 10 лет назад
This guy doesn't let things get to that point.
@sivalley
@sivalley 11 лет назад
Technically yes, it is called 'dieseling', but only with a carburated engine with a crank driven fuel pump. I had a '70 Benz 280SE that had a bad habit of doing so when it was shut down because the mechanical fuel injection pump was off timing. It would eventually stop when fuel supply pressure dropped since it was fed by an electric fuel pump. Dieseling is an indication of dangerously lean fuel/air mix in a gasoline engine, but is being developed as an intentional highway operation mode.
@UnitCrane514
@UnitCrane514 11 лет назад
I see you studied the diagrams! Haha, howed it go with Gerhart's Machine? Did you figure out the independent boom hoist?
@rosewhite4656
@rosewhite4656 11 лет назад
how do you get the pony to turn the main engine? is there a clutch or what?
@DrMcelroy
@DrMcelroy 11 лет назад
@sivalley... I had an old '77 Ford Highboy with a 300-I6 that would do that quite often when i cut the ignition off. The engine would actually run backwards when this was happening. I found this out the hard way one day while trying to get it to quit, i put the trans in Bulldog1st and held on the brake a bit... The plan was to let the clutch out and kill the engine but it shocked the hell outa me when the truck lunged backward. I was puzzled as hell till my uncle explained it haha
@thestuffz
@thestuffz 11 лет назад
well you sure look like you know what you're doing!! first breaths of life back in the old girl in how many years?? lol
@tomlordtom
@tomlordtom 11 лет назад
My maxforce ran away from me 3 weeks ago. It was spinning at 2900 rpm for almost 3 minutes before I could stop it. Scary
@andrewsmart2949
@andrewsmart2949 11 лет назад
well always carry a block of wood and have access to intake when starting dodgy diesels LOL
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
there is a clutch leaver , pinon leaver and a decompression handle.
@redneck2665
@redneck2665 11 лет назад
What does that cat power for work?
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 7 лет назад
What were you inside of, the Model 25 or a 22-B?
@mog5858
@mog5858 7 лет назад
25 D a 22 has 1/2 the room in the house. sure glad i got a Northwest lol
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 7 лет назад
mog5858 I ran bo0th years ago. One 22 with a Cummins, one with a IH TD-14 and one with a Detroit. The 25 had a Murphy, as did the Model 6.
@castirondude
@castirondude 11 лет назад
good job being prepared. Runaways are scary and you dont have much time to act!
@171apples171
@171apples171 2 года назад
Ahhh okay so all that racket was the pony motor? I was wondering why this CAT diesel engine sounded like a fucking briggs and stratton hahahaha
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 Год назад
Exactly
@chriswouse7713
@chriswouse7713 11 лет назад
redefining stuck between a rock & a hard place: stuck between a bulk head and an angry diesel!
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
thanks you are 100% right it did not run long
@nathanjohnson9835
@nathanjohnson9835 7 лет назад
Same as any engine you cut the air supply engine dies simple
@trevthereap3r298
@trevthereap3r298 7 лет назад
logic.
@andrewsmith7147
@andrewsmith7147 5 лет назад
not always !! . i had a injection pump fail and pour fuel had to crack the injectors to get her to stop , and he did try snuffing it with the clip board
@stevenclark3522
@stevenclark3522 8 лет назад
one thing u do not do is use starting fluid to start any Diesel engine use liquid wrench,PB BLASTER if u use any of these u can use a LITTLE BIT WITH any of thoes things
@floodedcar123
@floodedcar123 11 лет назад
they don't give you much room in there.
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
good one
@jayxtreme6
@jayxtreme6 7 лет назад
how many levers do you need to operate??? damn!
@mog5858
@mog5858 7 лет назад
well 3 plus throttle and coke .
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 5 лет назад
mog5858 you were drinking coke? Or do you mean the choke.
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
thanks
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
thanks maybe next time i will throw the mater clutch ;)
@UnitCrane514
@UnitCrane514 11 лет назад
Keep working at her! Some WD-40 should loosen some things up!
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
i am the kid and i not a kid. second it was not cold cus i let every thing warm up plus it had oil pressure that why i fire up as soon as i closed the decompression vale. go and try that with cardboard and see how far you get.
@ramairgto72
@ramairgto72 8 лет назад
Hope you didnt go alone...?
@jeremytucker8853
@jeremytucker8853 4 года назад
Don't get a loose end of your clothing caught in that pulley or else something bad will happen.
@mog5858
@mog5858 4 года назад
thanks, but the master clutch is out so nothing is truing but the motor crank.
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 7 лет назад
what vehicle
@brushbros
@brushbros 10 лет назад
It would be nice to know what you are doing.
@1bad55chev
@1bad55chev 11 лет назад
I may have some info on the 318 gov. laying around here if you need some help.
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
it only ran 30 seconds you would be hearing the pup motor there little screamer
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
ya i did not wont to take a chance and let things run but i know it run now so that all good do a little more fix and we be good i turned the sound way down before i upload it you have to be there to hear how load it is in the tin box.
@fiveliter247
@fiveliter247 8 лет назад
Feel bad fur you man
@AgustinCesar
@AgustinCesar 11 лет назад
Like a Boss LOL =P
@lkracker7
@lkracker7 10 лет назад
This comment section is awful. "You can't run away a gas engine!!!" Probably because that's the pony motor you hear to start the diesel engine behind it. Idiots.
@rambo8863
@rambo8863 5 лет назад
Yes you can but it was more faulty unlubricatet asselerator cabel, then the engine it self.
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
not a chance this engine is the hole reason why i like the drag line. it's only 4000 hours on her. most run Detroit's
@highcountrytimber
@highcountrytimber 10 лет назад
What kinda machine is she in?
@mog5858
@mog5858 10 лет назад
north west 25D drag line
@simonrichard9873
@simonrichard9873 7 лет назад
Is that in the mystery dragline?
@mog5858
@mog5858 7 лет назад
no that inside my Northwest 25D
@simonrichard9873
@simonrichard9873 7 лет назад
Ah ok.
@jaggass
@jaggass 9 лет назад
i heard the diesel engine.
@mog5858
@mog5858 10 лет назад
ya but 2 cylinder 3600 rpm at full load about 10 hp
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
runs great now. everything is scrap you just don't get it not
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
ok but the rack is stuck for shere did not wont to get a rod in the leg no room to run in there lol
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
northwest 25 D crane / dragline
@twcjuly21
@twcjuly21 9 лет назад
First off all, if this engine throws a rod you're fucked and is gonna hurt just a little
@1bad55chev
@1bad55chev 11 лет назад
Sounded like a runaway to me, The fan was all I could hear but it was running away. Those noisy pony motors are horrible.
@Iowarail
@Iowarail 11 лет назад
I have seen the results of people getting caught in ptos, and machinery. I would take the cold.
@mog5858
@mog5858 11 лет назад
that's for shear
@SubLockDubs
@SubLockDubs 10 лет назад
3:31 He uses the force.
@vin7s
@vin7s 11 лет назад
is it possible to have a runaway gas engine?
@bait28
@bait28 4 года назад
no
@masterjcp1274
@masterjcp1274 3 года назад
Remember fire needs oxygen what do you do block air flow to the engine
@mog5858
@mog5858 3 года назад
I had a piece of wood there and I had the air filter off ready to block the air if needed .
@masterjcp1274
@masterjcp1274 3 года назад
Perfect always play it safe and prepare
@_TTH
@_TTH 9 лет назад
so if a supercharged engine runaway what do you do ?
@bait28
@bait28 8 лет назад
+BoOst LyFe Block the intake?
@cardonlife5120
@cardonlife5120 8 лет назад
+Bait28 you gettin attitude with me boy?
@bait28
@bait28 8 лет назад
+CARDON LIFE LOL
@sniperNghillie97
@sniperNghillie97 11 лет назад
What using a fire extinguisher on the intake?
@rambo8863
@rambo8863 5 лет назад
How dangerus is it to Block the exsust on a run away engine?
@kathleendircks5577
@kathleendircks5577 2 года назад
I know very little but I tried something like that once and there was too much pressure from the exhaust. Has to be intake.
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 Год назад
You would blow your hands off
@JumpManJohn
@JumpManJohn 11 лет назад
wat do you mean by runaway i dont quite get it?
@sivalley
@sivalley 11 лет назад
Would you rather succumb to hypothermia, or be intelligent and careful of where you stick you noodle appendages? :-p
@FloppyThings98
@FloppyThings98 8 лет назад
That seems like a stupidly complicated engine
@mog5858
@mog5858 8 лет назад
+Alex Wood not really it's dead simple it's all maniacal there only 2 plug wires for the pony and that it.
@jamesbradley1695
@jamesbradley1695 11 лет назад
How the hell was that a 'runaway'? It wasn't even HOT. All the kid was doing was starting it from cold with the pony and then choking off with the cardboard, a few times when the governor apparently wouldn't cut in!!!!!
@taitai907
@taitai907 11 лет назад
For most people, if the engine runs away, so do they. For people who know about diesels, they suffocate the engine and shut it down. You have balls to let the engine keep running.
@maxdavies9958
@maxdavies9958 4 года назад
He shut it down as soon as it started to runaway.
@guygaric940
@guygaric940 10 лет назад
it didnt run off...
@johndoe1909
@johndoe1909 10 лет назад
Actually it did. Several times even...
@guygaric940
@guygaric940 10 лет назад
oh
@xxmychesticles69xx93
@xxmychesticles69xx93 9 лет назад
Guy Garic that's why he covered the intake multiple times. To keep it from running away.
@thesantiso
@thesantiso 9 лет назад
Fucking runaways... Can't believe how there isn't a mechanism to stop this stupid self-destructive engine behavior. However I think it's a diesel inlet control problem and not a genuine runaway and you were a bit nervous if I'm not mistaken. I'd be equally nervous in such a small place and such a big motherfucking imposing son of a bitch engine. Let it gain some more RPM to see what happens. You still have that clipboard to shut the air intake
@WrenchingWolf92
@WrenchingWolf92 9 лет назад
Most modern diesels do now. I'm a VW tech, all of the newer TDI engines have a choke that shuts with the ignition.
@rustbeltrestoration
@rustbeltrestoration 9 лет назад
My grandpa was working on a semi that sat for a few years. The thing ran away and he had an emergency shutoff. It was a spring-loaded shutoff and the thing was from the 70's
@0icekold7
@0icekold7 6 лет назад
Nothin happened
@MegaTriumph955
@MegaTriumph955 9 лет назад
Liar ,liar pants on fire?!?!?!
@bait28
@bait28 8 лет назад
+Peter Caito are you a moron?
@techandgameswithaboy5324
@techandgameswithaboy5324 5 лет назад
@@bait28 yes he is m8
@brandonhersey197
@brandonhersey197 11 лет назад
dont sound like a run a way
@benttt12
@benttt12 10 лет назад
Where is the Runaway motor?, Far from a runaway, Bogus title!
@leviskuse3122
@leviskuse3122 9 лет назад
its that little rrooaaaaaAAAAARRRRRRR sound you hear in some parts of the middle of the video, the sound that u heard the whole time was just a tiny engine trying to start the MAIN engine that kept running away when he got it started
@bigguy8721
@bigguy8721 9 лет назад
That isn't no runnaway diesel that's just a regular cat piece of crap
@mog5858
@mog5858 9 лет назад
well that cat is 65 year old and run's just fine once i fix the govern it had not bean run in 20 years so i would say it doing very good.
@bigguy8721
@bigguy8721 9 лет назад
Ok then can you put up a video of it fixed
@mog5858
@mog5858 9 лет назад
Big guy there is 3 other video of it running on my channal caterpillar 318 in a nothwest 25 D running ,walking out of it's grave and swinging a northwest 25D
@ShyannW
@ShyannW 9 лет назад
Cats are the best lol, runaways happen, to a bunch of diesels, I'm seeing it more often though.
@Caterday1234
@Caterday1234 9 лет назад
Yeh I agree. A runaway would have the whole engine smokin and you would've probably shit your pants since you were so close
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