My wife and kids live in a house in Canyon Country and when we went to Magic Mountain about a month ago, we decided to head up the road and look at those houses and we were shocked at how terrible those houses and community looked. Also, just as you said, most of those homes have already been sold (mainly to property management companies) and they are renting the units for like 5k a month for a three bedroom which is disgusting. Also, there is another new housing development going up in Newhall right off the 14 near sierra hwy and newhall ave. They are just flattening all of the hills in our beautiful city and stacking them with ugly homes. It's such a disgrace.
I have been keeping an eye on that development as well, the one that you mentioned off of Newhall avenue, very curious to see how they're going to lay out those homes, it looks like it's going to be more conventional? Instead of whatever this thing is above Magic Mountain! Either way, we drove into the development to get a closer look at these homes and talked to a homeowner who bought one of those units in those square boxy looking buildings, he said the cheapest units are selling for $450,000. Evidently this development got pushed through and approved because they said it was going to be affordable and it was going to be environmentally friendly and somewhat carbon neutral!? Sounds like they pulled a fast one like developers tend to do.
Those homes are anything but ugly! I live in North Hollywood, but my brother bought land is building a home there. It’s beautiful. Can you afford a home there?
Hopefully Magic Mountain owns the land directly behind Viper and X2 to build another coaster or expand the park. If they build houses behind the rides, it’s game over.
Magic Mountain is landlocked last plan I seen they wanted to put a grocery shopping center that backs against that side of the park but i’m not sure if it’ll actually happen the park really needs that land
I was looking at the development plans and the land next to Viper is slated for commercial development. However the land across from the toll booths is looking to be condos. But of course all that could change.
Canada's Wonderland had a similar problem. they built way out in the middle of nowhere, so some developers decided to completely surround it in subdivisions and residential areas. Now the park not only has no room to expand, but the people who moved into these new neighborhood filed noise complaints, effectively neutering the parks ability to do firework shows, special events, and overnight charity events. they even petitioned to have the park moved elsewhere.
Those houses do NOT, NOT.....N.O.T.......NOTTTTT....BELONG THERE.... That WHOLE development is COMPLETE AND UTTERLY disgusting!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!! Btw: That yellow rollercoaster is the new RMC single rail raptor themed as Wonder Woman: Flight of Courage ....and YES, Viper is still in operation to this day.
Yeah, I agree. There are people living up there tho it doesn't look like it. The development is not near completed - retail space is going in and lots more housing units.
They had lots of other land to buy but decided to buy that land. Magic mountain could have easily had that land and would be able to expand but yeah those houses should not be there. It’s a stupid idea. Why would you put houses next to a busy park that has LOTS of noise and expect people to buy it, that’s not ok, but if they want to then they could I guess.
@@j.tvgl2235 Yeah, back in the mid 90's Magic Mountain's popularity was so big that at one point Newhall Land & Farming Company(the ORIGINAL builders of Magic Mountain)along with the owners of Six Flags at the time had plans to add another 400 acres to the park by turning it into full-fledged destination resort, thus making it 3x's larger than it is now. Too bad they didn't pull the trigger on that project. It most definitely would've been better than the houses going up there now.......what an eyesore.
High density housing developments are the future. This is to address the housing shortage. Hopefully they put a few shops in close proximity or else it would be pointless.
The is the absolute, 100% future of development (especially in California). It’s a mixed-use community, so in theory, everything is contained in the neighborhood. Walking to shopping, work, etc. With the price of real estate, it’s the only way a developer can justify even building. They got to pack as much in as possible to get a return on investment.
My dad was in construction and did a couple of very small housing developments. He always would point out the beauty of the rolling hills all over Southern California and how awful it was when they got carved up for massive developments with cookie cutter product.
Canadian here: i live in the Niagara region my entire life. when i was young, i'd go to Canada's Wonderland (the countries largest amusement park). it is in a city called Vaughan, a small city 20 minutes out from Toronto. the amusement park was located well away from any civilization, there were no houses or buildings nearby. 20 years ago real estate developers realized the potential for the land and started rapidly growing the city out into the country side. the urban sprawl kept growing until it completely enveloped Canada's Wonderland with developments. 'Nice houses' were built less than 300m from the biggest amusement park in the country. which you'd think might not be a great place to have a subdivisions because of the 17 roller coasters and other noise generators. So the Vaughan community decided to do something about it. They petitioned to have Canada's Wonderland cut their noise by removing their fireworks displays and laser shows, they now have to close the park at 10pm instead of at 12, and they cannot have overnight special events except for the rare charity event that gets city approval. They even (unsuccessfully) petitioned to have the park removed and relocated well out of the area. TLDR: jack-ass developers and city planners shoved houses all around Canada's biggest Amusement park, then complained about the noise and tried to have the park shut.
Sad how there’s less houses being built and more small cheap condos. Remember all those futuristic movies from the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s that had everyone living in one room living spaces (Corbin Dallas in Fifth Element). A very powerful individual said we will own nothing and be happy.
I hated when they announced this housing development I always thought a couple resort hotels for the park or something would be great in that location but just to put houses is stupid and now they ruined the traffic to the park and only having 2 lanes going to the parking booth and then 2 to go up to the houses
I hate the fact that they're building these enormous and unsightly developments so close to Magic Mountain. I know the park will be ok, It just might be a while before everything works itself out with those huge developments. I'm honestly shocked at how strange it all looks too. Crazy
That kind of growth has been going on for a little while in the I5/126 area. It looks like a lot of it is built on the "European Model. High density, high occupancy, and walkable to services. I didn't see too many services there though. I don't know why any city or county would let something like that be build. The infrastructure can't support it. Water, power, sewer, transit, traffic, they don't know how screwed they are going to be. Once people move in there they will probably start complaining about operations at Magic Mountain. I wonder if there are future plans to shut down the park for good. It's looking pretty sad from the air.
Yep, on the ground in SCV, traffic going north on I5 even outside of rush hour is appreciably worse. Actually bad in both directions and especially through the Newhall Pass. They're having to rewiden and redo a huge stretch of the freeway that they just finished reconstructing two years ago, and that project snarled traffic for the three years it took them to finish it.
As price of land went up this is what developments ended up looking like. The same happened here in Vegas. Originally they were pretty normal with driveways and stuff, then it was the no driveway homes, then the box with (2) 3 bdrm (1) 2bdrm townhomes. Then they said screw the garages and added basically what amounts to apartments and called them "Condos" So the short answer is yes this is the future as so long as land continues to appreciate in value.
Cram as many houses into any development has been going on for over 30 years..... So hard to find a house with 1/4 arce of land now a days. No yard= no water to waste on lawns....."hey boys, go play in the rock yard" enjoy that 6'X6' gravel square! It's like prepping kids for prison life from the get-go.
Magic Mountain soon to be a valley. When I lived in California I always enjoyed the environment of Magic Mountain (truly is one of the most beautiful and well kept parks I've ever been to) and was glad to see they preserved the landscape, until these developers moved in and ruined it. But this is the politics of real estate now. I live in a (once) quiet outlying community in Queens, NY now and when all the rezoning laws were changed, construction went viral here. Now it looks like Manhattan. I read that this is what's happening all over the country.
Magic Mountain is beautiful and well kept? Since when? I love it - my family goes at least once a month - but its been in moderate disrepair for decades.
These housing developments seem to always buy land next to amusement parks or race tracks Then complain about noise pollution I pray that doesn’t happen here 🤦🏻♂️ what a shame , also as far as multi family units millennials love being pack rats vs having their own home and land to use , instead the want low income builds and multi family packed in housing
Residentswon’t complain about the traffic because there is an island that splits the road into two. And the residents wouldn’t complain about the noise coming from Magic Mountain. I’m sure they knew what they have committed to buying, and knew that there was a theme park in front of them. THINK!!
Thanks for the video. How do you merge the narration with the sd card view? I use the screen recording to narrate but can never figure out how to get the silent video from the card to record my narration.
Thanks for watching and for the question, I do it the old fashioned way, I don't merge it in any technologically savvy way, I literally do a separate voice recording on my computer as I watch the playback and then lay that recorded audio track onto the video stream. Sometimes I have to move it around to make sure it matches up with the images. I'm a total newbie at this and just learned how to do very basic editing like 2 months ago. I recently discovered screen recording apps for your phone. Those are pretty great, so what I might do next time is take that recording, ditch the video which I wouldn't need because the resolution usually sucks, keep the audio and then lay that track down to match the video from the drone, I like that better because sometimes when you're narrating as you're actually flying it's a little more authentic instead of doing the narration after the fact, if that isn't too confusing.
Great footage and thoughts. While it might be a shock to many, this land has been slated for development since at least the 1960s. In 1968 a partnership was formed between Newhall Land and SeaWorld Inc. SeaWorld was looking for a new place to build a park and Newhall Land saw it as a great opportunity to bring people to the area -- And hopefully move there. So, yeah, residential development was a goal of building Magic Mountain in the first place. Honestly I'm shocked it took this long. Oh, and just one other note: When you mentioned Viper not operating, there was a train going up the lift. 😉
Ha, I missed that on Viper! Nice to know cause I love that ride. Actually, I also failed to notice a car going up Riddler's Revenge, another of my favorites, thanks for watching and appreciate your comments
@@meangene5104 Newhall Land and Farming Company still exists and is responsible for the master planning of Valencia. But their parent company is FivePoint. Which is the name you see on this current development.
The development is only approximately 5% completed. There are over 20K lots yet to be sold to home builders. In addition, there will be 10 million sq ft of commercial development. One of the reasons for the density of the lots is that to get approval Fivepoints had to keep a large part of the property in its natural state.
OMG! The nimbies are gonna lose their shit over the noise. That “development” looks like it has very few open spaces. The traffic issues will be compounded unless they build more roads. Yeah, those houses are gonna be a stinking eyesore. One the positive, I can certainly see attendance going up as locals will take advantage of the park so that’s good. Moreover, Magic Mountain has has historically had issues of understaffing and having local young adults wanting to work there and not just visit as paying guest so hopefully dome of the née residents will fill in the employment gaps that the park has traditionally had. Also, if you take a good look at Disneyland and Knotts on a satellite map, you can also notice the residential areas much closer that you normally would see them at the street level so we’ll see. Hopefully it works out for Magic Mountain.
As a resident of SVC, we all want the park to do well and hopefully this development will give it a boost. We're hearing that this kind of mega development is going to extend west along the 126 highway until it reaches the Ventura County line. That's several miles down the road so this thing has just gotten started.
I was just back there filming Wonder Woman the ride and from the hill the rides are not that loud they’ll be ok. But whoever buys close to the hill will have an awesome view of MM.. but the houses look so ugly.
Surprisingly, you can't hear the park very much from the development. With it being up on a hill, the slope against the park acts as a sound barrier. And then there will be retail development between the park and homes. Plus landscaping. Once all that fills in, the biggest noise will be a Honda civic with loud exhaust going by. Lol. And good point about park staffing. I didn't even think about how this will be beneficial in that way.
Later on, they are building a road to the main road. Residents won’t complain about the noise, why buy the house in the first place when you know there’s a theme park in front of you? And if the development is on a hill, the hill acts as a barrier. So USE YOUR BRAIN!!
Personally think this is a nice break from the dreary cookie cutter suburban sprawl that resides in the single-family zoned Santa Clarita Valley. The closed off private neighborhoods with outlets scattered everywhere and no sidewalks in sight are one of the most depressing things I see when trying to bike around some neighborhoods. It shows how utterly car-centric the SCV and california in general really is. If we supported more efforts to have dedicated bus lanes and improved bike lanes on the giant multi-lane roads scattered throughout the SCV along with greater funding for public transportation rather than expanding highways and roads, maybe we wouldn't have so much traffic since people wouldn't have to get in their car just to go to their grocery store and could instead bike, take buses, maybe even take a local trolly, or could even walk to their favorite stores, though zoning laws related to the separation of single-family homes and commercial centers would also have to be addressed. These packed mixed-use housing districts will help accommodate the crippling housing issue Santa Clarita has, even if the cost to buy is fairly high (its SCV, $450k for a house is, sadly, considered cheap). I will agree with the water usage though, not sure how SCV will be able to support itself with all of these water cuts the county's throwing at us. Though, to be honest, your beautiful green lawns aren't going to be sustainable anyway, the natural landscape of SCV is and will always have a desert climate. It really shouldn't be a surprise that filling an entire valley with single-family homes is completely unsustainable for reducing homelessness. Sorry that your dreams of suburbia can't come true but it's time that we realize that the American Dream ain't so sustainable in California's current economic climate.
Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Some areas, especially in Canyon Country and Copper Hill are Orwellian nightmares from an aesthetic point of view. Eye of the beholder I guess. Thx for watching.
Water??????? The developer should have to pay to develop the resources to provide the necessary water for that many people. Same shit in Arizona.... huge development and no water
I live in Canyon Country with no HOA and everything being built today is ugly and HOA communities. But my main concern is that our traffic is bad already and it will only get worse as these developments continue to grow. Our beautiful hills are no more 😢
Someone correct me if this is inaccurate but a resident told me the cheapest units, the tiniest model of townhouse in those boxy buildings with less that 1000 sq feet are selling for $450k? Geez, they sold this project to the community promising echo-friendly, carbon-neutrality, sustainability, blah, blah, all those buzz words, and most importantly, affordability. Was this what anyone thought it was going to look like or how much they would cost? I also can't imagine anyone being ok with these esthetics if they knew it was going to look like this. Or they were all smoking crack, or the developers misled them. Maybe they knew they could get away with this by putting it up on the hill where you really can't see it. I'm guessing afternoon traffic on the 5 north through SCV is gonna look like the 14 north to the Antelope Valley. Developers do lie, we've heard them do it at the community meeting at the Mule Farm in Newhall. Said the impact on traffic would be less than 10% and that no units would be Section 8. And with the money in their pocket, they don't have to stay around to deal with the long-term consequences.
This shocks me considering the water situation down there, crazy! It looks like a “mixed use” community near me, homes, townhomes, apartments, etc with its own store, community pool and other activity areas that only community members can use. It’s massive, 2300+ homes that aren’t all purchased and they’re still building more and more, it’s crazy! Someone tried burning down several of the new apartment buildings a few years ago in protest and to slow the development. Traffic in this area and up and down I5 nearby is nothing but gridlock 24/7.
@@meangene5104 You’re welcome, you’ve got some good stuff so far. This development really just blows my mind, especially after educating myself on the water crisis going on down there. The community up here is only 2300 homes and it’s massive, I’ve driven through it to check it out closer and it feels never ending . I can’t imagine this one with 23,000 homes, even seeing it from the air, it’s still hard to comprehend the size.
I never dreamed that Magic Mountain would look like this. 💔 It now looks worse than the mountain top removal sites in WV. This is insane! BTW, This is just a statement about the aesthetic of both places. It's NOT an approval of mountain top removal. That's a whole other subject. Sadly, this is more than likely the future for many beautiful communities. 💔 I hope & pray that I'm wrong.
Wow what a trip! I haven’t been there in 10 years so that really blew me away. As a kid I grew up in Valencia, then C.C., then out of state- my dad wanted outta there. The future there is looking bleak. Those subdivisions look depressing, at least they all have solar but water has got to be a concern? With the market so high, I’m curious what one of those new “houses” go for? I have a roofing/solar company in Albuquerque and I can’t tell you how many people/customers are transplants from Cali. About 50% I’d say. Which has brought our housing market through the roof. Pun intended!😂 I enjoyed the video & commentary. Seeing that Magic Mtn sure brought back fun memories! Thx
Thanks very much Autumn for the comment and for watching, after I did this video I drove up there and took a look around, I talked to a homeowner who has a unit in those boxy-looking buildings who said the smallest unit has about 1,300 ft, the smallest units in the development so far, and they are going for $450,000.
@@meangene5104 That’s nuts but for Cali about right it seems. I visited my girlfriend there about 10 years ago. She has a nice place to the left right before Castaic. My half brother lives in W Hollywood. I don’t talk to either of them anymore so no reason to go back😂. Keep up your vids I like them👍
Much of that land used to be orchards. Most if not all of the land belonged to Newhall Land and Farm. They began the outrageous development with the Valencia housing tract in the mid 60s.
i love how people complain theirs not enough houses, then build homes then they're selfish.. In Dallas it's all communities like that and it thrives. Homes are actually more affordable because theres more inventory than demand, small communities like these bring more Business and expands more things to do
I have a question. I've been in Vegas for 30 years. I've been wondering how we're going to be able to have enough water available for the growth that's still going on here. My question is, "Where're y'all going to get the water ??? Also, look into the term "Regionalization". It's political for control reasons.
First off, that development looks like a PRISON. But the bigger concern is that it was allowed at all. Some of it seems WAY too close to the park and ruins what was a nice view before. I really don’t like all this city development encroaching on the wilderness vibe of Magic Mountain though. It really pisses me off.
That area was designated for development back in 2017.."Will the 21,500-home Newhall Ranch project be California’s greenest development? " Is the headline in the dec 3,2017 orange county register...
This makes me laugh. "Just getting started"? This is the same discussion that people in the SCV have been having since I moved here in '73 when there were 32,000 people living here. Now there are over 400,000 people in this valley. How do you think that happened? After almost 50 years of giant developments, I have no idea how this new one above Magic Mountain is suddenly any different than the ones that now exist up Bouquet, or up McBean, or off Copperhill, or Stevenson Ranch...other than maybe in size. It's still going to be condos, fire stations, schools, retail spaces, single family homes...Paseos, parks & Rec areas... Between Ventura & LA counties, this new area will contain 20,000 new homes. It will include five million square feet of commercial (retail and industrial) space.... And it's just a continuation of exactly the same growth that has been going on since Newhall Land & Farm broke ground in Valencia on Old Orchard in the late sixties.
@@meangene5104 Sure it does. It's just larger (and not even that much), as I said. But what's interesting to me is that suddenly growth in SCV is an issue. It sucks, but it's always sucked. The population here has climbed between 3 and 5% nearly every year for fifty years. All this pearl clutching in the face of the roughly the same growth (now trending slightly less actually) rate that has been happening since the '70s, mostly from the same development company; NL&F. The same thing is happening up in Tahoe (where we have a family cabin) and Reno and Carson River Valley; People buy into the area, make all sorts of disruptive changes, then once they've been there for a few years start getting all irritated about all the "new" development that is happening.
There is nothing as densely packed and totally lacking any esthetic currently in SCV. Show me what else looks like that? You can't cause it doesn't exist, yet.
I commuted for 40 years up/down the 14 to Glendale. Traffic was bad then cannot even imagine the 5 North from the 14 cutoff to SCV. One accident, one freak weather event, fire etc. Very unfortunate…
Remember back in '92 when the 14 got snowed out by sand canyon to agua dulce then the earthquake or the fires that closed the 5/14 several times. in 07 I was in the bouquet canyon area trying to get back to L.A. when a fire closed the freeways and went thru Acton up to angelus forest hwy to Angeles crest for a detour. They should have finished the 126 to the 14 -the via Princesa overpasses and planed ramps- back in the early 70's knowing the valley was going to grow
@@AmericasCoasterNetworkyeah, when we went up there on a weekend with the park being full, could barely hear anything so I don't think noise from the park is going to be an issue for residents
Thank you for your videos. California is a beautiful state, but it’s politicians and planners look to be destroying it, sadly. Keep making your videos, because they still show the natural beauty of California.
The Six Flags company has been recovering from a bankruptcy, and I assume they wouldn’t have done any major projects with the land where the development is now.
The Newhall Ranch has been known about for years. It is a 25,000 unit development. It is not even 1/4 finished. They will be building this for years. Where have you been?
"That's the view of Viper and it looks like it's not in use".... as a train is climbing up the lift... Anyways, I've never looked at that housing development, but man it looks ugly. I'm really wondering though when the houses begin to be bought and sold, how long it will take for the noise complaints to start rolling in. For those who don't realize, those rides do have to be turned on and cycled at night in order to do maintenance. They all have warning sirens to indicate that the power is on, plus you also just have to noise of the trains on the track. I can already see complaints about Superman and Riddlers in particular as they are the loudest rides in the park and closer to the homes. So if the people who want to live there can somehow look past the hideous neighborhood, they'll also have thatto look forward to.
I live there. park noise is not an issue at all. Well we will see on the 4th with fireworks though. I can't wait for a front row seat but there are always party poopers who will complain.
Technically this is not in Santa Clarita it's LA county but it impacts Santa Clarita infrastructure schools etc. When they incorporated the city the county made sure the city ended at the middle of the 5 freeway except where the truck scales are it jogs to the east so the county gets the revenue from the scales. Soon they will develop everything from the 5 to the Ventura county line. Currently Ventura will not allow development along the 126 corridor but sometime in the future it will become too temping and I expect there will be development all the way to Ventura. Years down the road hopefully.
Yeah, I heard the development is headed west along the 126 to the county line. That stretch currently is so beautiful, but not for long it seems. Thx for watching
This is the Newhall Ranch project. 25,000 homes. It's a disaster what is being done to our once very beautiful valley. Traffic is gonna be a bigger nightmare. I'm afraid also about what's gonna become of our 126 road to Ventura.
Yes! It's a such a beautiful stretch of road. Traffic has gotten horrible of late in SCV, not sure if it's the development, the freeway they have to redo again two years after their first redo, or a combo of both. Thx for watching
Probably affordable apartments for employees of magic mountain. Right now a lot of employees are forced to live out in palmdale and lancaster where the rent is a bit cheaper and take the train and or a 45 minute commute.
I'm not sure, maybe, but I talked to some homeowners and they said the cheapest units are actually townhomes with super narrow garages, no yard at all and 1400 sf, and they start at $450K. Thanks for watching.
Madderhatter....Do you really think a kid living with their parents and working at Magic Mountain part time will be able to afford one of these new homes or apartments? The owners and renters of these new homes will be working south of us in Los Angeles and using the freeways to get there. They work real jobs that pay more than minimum wage in areas they can't afford to live in.
@@nomercy4338 Yes, a lot of these houses will be split with roomies for however many bedrooms there are I imagine, if not single apartments, that's why they look so boxy and horrible.
Those Home builders are gonna be in trouble here in a min…all new construction just took a dump…So there won’t be anybody to be buying them because nobody is buying right now
I was thinking something similar, I remember when development halted in Canyon Country and in Fillmore, the Bridges project, when the great recession hit in 2008'ish. These areas were left half completed for years
That’s all that is being permitted today. High density housing. Then our wonderful Gavin Newsom passed a bill doing away with R1 residential letting cities dictate what can, cannot and will be built on a regular 6k square foot lot up to eight units and require no off street parking. So depending on where you live such as where I do in Huntington Beach. We no have a duplex in our single family neighborhood. Another aspect of this bill is California will contribute up to $27,000 of tax payers money to build an MDU, ADU or what use to be called an inlaw suite with no repayment till the property sells if you ever sell. So if the person never sells, that is essentially free money to be able to make money because there is no stipulation that it has to be a family member living in the unit. Then there is the other clause that in some cities such as LA the government will also contribute up to $40,000 of again, tax payer money to assist in rent for “approved” low income renters for long term leases. These renters may be family so it’s just like tax payers paying you to add on to your home and creating income for you even though it’s your family living with you. I believe for every single family dwelling there needs to be six to eight high density units. Ten plus percent of these need to be low income housing supplemented by all the others that will be paying full price or more to pay for this. This all the while they scream DROUGHT, GLOBAL WARMING. So we have no water for these people and they want to build concrete/stucco buildings that heat up in the sun and release that heat at night and pave over every bit of land there is with black top(petroleum based) that too will soak up the heat during the day and be released at night. Zero green belts or large parks with trees. All arid hard scape. The logic of these leftists has left their brains. Look at new schools being built if they do build them at all. Certainly not keeping up with the idea of one to two children per household. Anyway all those new and existing schools also lack grass areas and even remove them to make room for mobile class rooms to absorb the new population. State, county and city planners and engineers are anything but what they call themselves. When challenged at council meetings they quickly shut/shout you down or turn off the mics to quiet you. This can go on and on. Electricity? No new power plants anywhere, they want these people to all drive electric cars that need charging and NO, solar and wind does NOT generate enough electricity to replace coal and oil on the East coast power plants nor oil and natural gas here on the West coast. Democrats are non thinkers. They are knee jerkers without base. Crap! I just remembered. All new construction and new restaurants in LA will have to use electricity instead of gas. So forget about charbroiled burgers and chicken. As I said, the list goes on and on about their bad policies ruining places they are in charge.
@@meangene5104 Although I’ve never been to California, the weather and nature looks beautiful there, but Democrats and politicians in general I’m betting are planning this crappy layout. Republicans/Conservatives don’t spend as much money, but from what I’ve seen, don’t give you anything new either to look at. Neither party is doing us any good. I wonder how long before a 3rd party candidate will begin to get support?? Someone who’s not a politician needs to be born there and promoted. God help us all, because I believe both parties are looking like the ruination of our country. When will the masses wake up?
I was there recently and noticed the same thing that they will ruin the beauty of this area and force out the wild life which i know these developers do not even take into consideration.
Everyone in LA lives on land that was bulldozed to make room for their home. Why is it bad now that someone else is doing the same thing. (Of course it’s bad to see more land clearing, but you rally can’t complain because everyone home started this way)
All this will mean bigger crowds, traffic and longer lines at Magic Mountain! Disgusting all the way around… It’s like an area 51 experimental housing project! No trees, no greenery, nope!
It's a shame to see that development looking so trashy, it is getting to look like that where I live, I can not imagine living in those unattractive houses, I was told they are called the modern day trailer parks, just awful looking
From Northern Calif : THIS is what you get when you don't stand up to the developers !! And, WHERE you gonna get the water ? Not the delta 'cause we are not going to continue to allow Southern Cal to DESTROY the California Delta !! You already ruined the Owen's Valley ! And everything else you touch !
Homes bring the need for services. Schools, policing, fire departments, road maintenance are just a few to mention. They ear up any tax revenues. Cities are then stuck to pay for all these legacy costs forever..
God that's ugly. But that's Santa Clarita. A bunch of postage stamp lots with a ginormous cokkie cutter house. Just sprinkle in large HOA's, moronic rules and leased BMW's to complete the development.
We went there, and the place and home designs are like in prison buildings.. Houses are too close to each other. Crazy planner. We won’t live there even if given free.. Lol😂 There are 3 development projects in Santa Clarita. Seemingly they will put people there from Mars. ✌️
The entire west relies on the water from Lake Tahoe and the Colorado River, which haven't seen enough rain and are both being depleted to record levels. Do these fools know something that we don't about water resources? Better hope so or this is just a lot of pointless destruction of landscape.
Your tone just drips with condescension. So where do you want people to live? You got yours, YOUR tasteful tract home with plenty of space. THAT used to be called "urban sprawl" by people living in mansions surrounded by wooded acres. You use the word "packed" so many times I lost count. Land is expensive and builders don't build housing for free. No doubt it was cheaper when you bought YOUR house. I suppose it's a spectrum. At one end, some believe there should be NO development outside of urban boundaries so as to maximize outdoor spaces. At the other end of the spectrum are those who oppose ANY zoning ordinances and allow people to build whatever wherever. Where do YOU draw the line?
This is the issue. People are aghast at dense multi-dwelling communities popping up in places like this, but then they bemoan the exploding homeless population that is a direct result of lack of new housing causing a surge in demand and lack of supply. While these units are certainly not cheap, they at least significantly increase housing inventory in a State where we really need the additional units. 25k new units is not a small amount. There’s also the lack of understanding that real estate prices are absolutely sky high, and the only way for developers to break even or make a profit is to maximize land use. Yes, that means the trade off for new housing units is there are smaller and less parks, no backyards, communal pools instead of individual private pools, and compact architecture.
