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RuPaul: our evil, problematic Queen? A deep dive... 

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RuPaul and the people have a love hate relationship and for good reason! In this video I discuss RuPaul's career- the success and the controversy that comes with it. Is it getting shady out here or is it just me???
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@nikolaizarnick1925
@nikolaizarnick1925 2 месяца назад
Fun story about Ru. A friend of mine (an Ny/nj architect) was called in to find out why Ru's penthouse roof was leaking. Upon inspection, the culprit was found to be a plethora of small, round holes on the roof...caused by high-heels during drag roof parties. 😂
@annalisasteinnes
@annalisasteinnes 2 месяца назад
I'm betting insurance didn't cover that--though it would make a funny Farmer's commercial.
@nikolaizarnick1925
@nikolaizarnick1925 2 месяца назад
@@annalisasteinnes ha! It certainly would have!
@pembrokelove
@pembrokelove 2 месяца назад
That is amazing… and I bet insurance did cover it! There’s no prohibition on drag parties!!!
@ellariel7457
@ellariel7457 2 месяца назад
@@pembrokelove I agree! I mean, to deny the claim, the insurer would have had to be a real heel! 👠
@roxyamused
@roxyamused 2 месяца назад
great pfp seven.
@smirbelbirbel
@smirbelbirbel 2 месяца назад
My ex (straight cis male) grew up in Colombia and had a lot of homophobia in him. We talked about it lots, but what really changed his views was when we lived together and I watched RPDR in our joint living room. At first, he ignored it, then peaked, stood longer and longer beside the sofa, until he finally fully joined. A year later, he came vogueing into the room when the theme tune played, we watched Pose together, he is now an outspoken ally. He is an ex for a reason, but as RuPaul shows, people aren't one dimensional. He didn't turn out to be a good partner for me by the end, but I am very happy that there is one more ally out therein the world.
@VannahSavage
@VannahSavage Месяц назад
This is such a positive and uplifting story, thank you for sharing. ❤
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy Месяц назад
I don’t know if you are an ally yourself (bravo for being an ally and educating others then) or a queer person yourself (still bravo). Kind of a wholesome story !
@BarbieDreamDungeon
@BarbieDreamDungeon Месяц назад
No one is born hateful, we can change minds and hearts
@angiepangie989
@angiepangie989 29 дней назад
You literally made him a better man and partner for the next woman (or man, usually the biggest homophobes are secretly gay) and that's the kindest most selfless thing a person could do ❤❤❤
@chrisz7494
@chrisz7494 23 дня назад
Happy endings often dont turn out how we think they will. Sorry that your relationship didnt work out, but he saw your example (watching RDPR in an unbotheree fashion) and completely 180'd his mindset. You worded it well: one more ally in the world
@uemochi9316
@uemochi9316 2 месяца назад
I feel like RuPaul is a good example of how people can do good things while themselves not being a really good person
@Anu90421
@Anu90421 2 месяца назад
true
@tvcaplan
@tvcaplan 2 месяца назад
Also nine times out of ten, a average-to-good person who experiences decades of fame and success will become a bad person. Getting everything you want and only interacting with people who want something from you is bad for the spirit
@rubentheactor7853
@rubentheactor7853 2 месяца назад
So a human being?🤣
@queenqueen977
@queenqueen977 2 месяца назад
okay sonic
@yippee8570
@yippee8570 2 месяца назад
Every single person has done something questionable in their life. It's when they continue to do it and don't learn or grow that it's a problem
@damaracarpenter8316
@damaracarpenter8316 2 месяца назад
An icon discussing an icon?! How iconic!! This is dramatic but as a young LGBT in rural Arkansas (circa 2010) RuPaul was TRULY an inspiration and guide to me as I navigated finding myself and even though she's no longer really who I fell in love with she'll forever have a place in my heart.
@jessicaoutofthecloset
@jessicaoutofthecloset 2 месяца назад
So much love to you! She truly shaped us all ❤️
@tylersmith4232
@tylersmith4232 2 месяца назад
And that is why they say to never meet your heroes. But what matters is the good we took from it and the things we do to make the world better because of it.
@straberryshinigami15g97
@straberryshinigami15g97 2 месяца назад
I hope this video discusses how he has said the t slur multiple times …
@damaracarpenter8316
@damaracarpenter8316 2 месяца назад
@@straberryshinigami15g97 as a transwoman I really don't mind queens saying that word.
@aithne7216
@aithne7216 2 месяца назад
Hello neighbor! I'm also in Arkansas.
@pembrokelove
@pembrokelove 2 месяца назад
24:41 it is also worth mentioning that Willow’s sister LITERALLY DIED OF CYSTINOSIS shortly after filming wrapped. That is a huge deal that needs to be talked about if we’re going to talk about someone “rising above”… chronic illness is not always overcome-able, and in Willow’s case it was particularly a gross thing to say.
@lynxlubbpeeps
@lynxlubbpeeps 5 дней назад
Not to mention how the term 'rising above' is so icky in general. As if everyone else with the disability is 'below' just because they're unable to hide their disability as well.
@lordfreerealestate8302
@lordfreerealestate8302 2 дня назад
@@lynxlubbpeeps You both have such good points 💛 In my experience, I`ve learned to give up on "overcoming" and simply learn to to work with my illness, not against it, to live a full life. But yes, there's so much pressure on disabled folks to "overcome" and be an inspirational success story. But being pushed too hard can do damage to your body and worsen your condition. It's okay not be strong sometimes.
@SkyeID
@SkyeID День назад
@@lynxlubbpeeps "rising above" *smh* nevermind the disabled people who are having trouble rising out of bed!
@marymac3572
@marymac3572 2 месяца назад
Fun fact: there's someone on the RPDR subreddit who makes pixelnart of the queens as pokemon. It's very fun.
@pl3816
@pl3816 2 месяца назад
I need to see that
@marymac3572
@marymac3572 2 месяца назад
@@pl3816 I misremembered, they're pokemon trainers. But still. If the link doesn't post in my next comment, you can Google "rpdr pixel pokemon" and it comes up.
@radschele1815
@radschele1815 2 месяца назад
I saw Pokémon trainers as well.
@margottago
@margottago 2 месяца назад
yesss, I love that person! almost as much as I love the moth biologist who finds exotic moth lookalikes of the queens 😍
@marymac3572
@marymac3572 2 месяца назад
@@margottago That sounds amazing!
@mchlle94
@mchlle94 Месяц назад
I expected a more critical deep dive. RP has said some pretty sexist things and there is unfortunately a lot of sexism and misogyny in the world and history of drag. I mean, it literally came to be because women weren't allowed to perform on stage. There was also this idea that men were better at portraying women than women themselves. Yeah, let that sink in...So much "humor" in the world of drag depends on misogyny (e.g. the "fishy" comments, women as ditsy or hypersexual). Let's also not forget that RP doesn't want women to be on his show, and he's repeatedly turned down Drag Kings for the show. I find this so telling, as Drag Kings portray/make fun of those in power (men), whereas it's the opposite for Drag Queens.
@philipbloomquist1580
@philipbloomquist1580 21 день назад
Drag Race Drag Kings slay would be good spinoff series. You mention Drag Kings makes fun of those in power (men) and is a different dynamic than drag queens that logic would make a spinoff make more sense than trying to shoehorn a drag king into a show that is so focused on the dynamics of drag queens.
@Gabrielle-bb2zq
@Gabrielle-bb2zq 14 дней назад
For information, there was drag king guests in the French Franchise while 2 mini challenges. Obviously, I think they deserve a completely emission too.
@secondhandmuse6374
@secondhandmuse6374 11 дней назад
It’s only one example on hundreds of queens in the franchise, but I do want to point out that Victoria Scone in two of the British seasons is AFAB and actually had a conversation with fellow contestants about the derogatory uses of phrases like “fishy.” Misogyny within the queer community is an important issue to be addressed and I hope we’ll see more conversations like this on Drag Race.
@bib4eto656
@bib4eto656 9 дней назад
Actually I - personally - don't find the term "fishy" offensive to me as a cis woman, but what I hate is the insistence that a drag queen has to have a certain body or a certain extremely -feminine style. Even "weirdos" such as Sharon or Yvie who did very non-glamourous outfits still generally conformed to a specific femininity and "attractiveness". On the British S2, I'll never forget how they bullied Ginny Lemon to put on huge tits and make a more classic dress. Because apparently her dressing as a crazy old bat isn't her being feminine enough? There's plenty of women in the world who dress like that. Let us be weird and old and unattractive. But that's just my take 🤷
@podfruwajk4
@podfruwajk4 7 дней назад
Let's not forget they didn't let Manila wear her menstrual pad dress because it was in 'bad taste'... I like the show but I sometimes feel like it exploits feminity instead of celebrating it.
@mypathunfolding
@mypathunfolding 2 месяца назад
The other day I was driving on I-95 (maybe I-75?) in Florida, and saw a sign that stated that I was close to the Drag Racing Hall of Fame. I smiled and wondered how I didn’t know this was a thing in Florida. Then I laughed out loud at the fact that this museum is actually about car drag racing and not drag performance. Disappointing. 😅😂
@MrPiccoloku
@MrPiccoloku 2 месяца назад
"I was...in Florida" I'm sorry
@daftpixi
@daftpixi 2 месяца назад
I'm so glad I'm not the only one! Every time I pass the signs on a road trip I'm like "omg cool here?!" then immediate "oh."
@jennbug584
@jennbug584 Месяц назад
when i used to be on dating apps, I used to put that I loved "drag race"...the amount of men that were so siked a "girl" liked racing was so so funny
@Zaulr9797
@Zaulr9797 Месяц назад
Oh yeah that’s I-75, just a bit south of Ocala, FL. It’s the Museum of Drag Racing 😂
@dannork1240
@dannork1240 23 дня назад
The Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing really is a fantastic museum but I can’t imagine there’s a lot of overlap between the two types of Drag… (other than me anyway) I wish car culture wasn’t so bad at accepting people who are any different than them…
@sintija123
@sintija123 2 месяца назад
Thank you for mentioning drag kings, I would love it so much if you made a whole video on them. As a drag king performer myself I feel really upset RuPaul hasn't done anything for kings and doesn't even acknowledge our drag
@littlecatfeet9064
@littlecatfeet9064 2 месяца назад
It’s a drag queen race. That’s RuPaul’s world. Maybe pitch your own show.
@wdjkncvgdfsbyt34jgvi
@wdjkncvgdfsbyt34jgvi 2 месяца назад
Drag kings are so under appreciated!!!
@ok-wv4st
@ok-wv4st Месяц назад
for a community thats supposed to be accepting is still very male dominated😞
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy Месяц назад
And what also bothers me is how it’s rarely spoken about how cis women can do drag, weather it be a drag king or drag queen. Drag queens aren’t just males or those who identify as males. I notice drag is more accepting of trans women doing it than trans men, but I think that could be rooted in transphobia and seeing the trans woman as “basically a man” so to some there “isn’t much of a difference” but idk
@BarbieDreamDungeon
@BarbieDreamDungeon Месяц назад
​@@livvyyyyyyyyyyyMaybe it has to do with the base being a male body? A female body is a big advantage in getting that queen look. Like, I, as a trans man, would have a big advantage in drag because of my real boobs, rather than detachable ones
@ashbee2053
@ashbee2053 2 месяца назад
I’m glad i’m not the only one who thought that when Rupaul was saying how impressive it is that Willow Pill “rose above” her illnesses 😬 When michelle said it’s so great she never uses her chronic illness as an “excuse”, in one episode (might have been the same one) Everyone in the work room grabbed things for the design challenge when she had to take longer to open the boxes, and ended up being left with barely anything. She pulled together a great outfit, but to applaud her for not complaining when the producers gave her no accommodations and nobody other than Kornbread offered to help her is so aggravating!! They did similar things on Yvies season and I hated that mentality ugh
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
Ableism in a nut shell unfortunately! Its like why I am so happy for her winning because man did she not only deserve it she is literally one of the best drag queens ever but maybe she can help in bringing awareness to a lot of peeps about their ableist thinking and pov, I really hated it when Ru said that bs tho it further cemented my hatred of him tbh
@livliveart
@livliveart 2 месяца назад
22:22 Texan trans girl here, lifelong musical theatre performer. This conflation of drag (entertainment) and transness (identity)... It reminds me of when my former voice teacher told me that it would be "hilarious" to have a trans woman performing XYZ musical theatre role or song. I know she didn’t mean any harm, but... it was demoralizing. It's tough to explain, because I am a comedic actress. I'm a ham. But it has never been because of my gender. (If anything, my prior male roles were the drag ones.) Thankfully I have a lot of great theatre friends, and I do think Drag Race helped introduce them to gender-nonconformity (without expecting me to be like that), which I truly appreciate. But they aren't the ones casting shows. I want to play Fiona in Shrek, or Ursula... I want to be funny, but not because I'm AMAB. Otherwise it feels like I'll have to pretend to be a drag queen just to have a shot at affirming roles... I hope that makes sense.
@rainkidwell2467
@rainkidwell2467 2 месяца назад
If only a cis person could understand this
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy Месяц назад
⁠@@rainkidwell2467I think some cis people could understand this while not fully relating to it if they are cis but also queer in some way. Imma cis lesbian, so I cannot claim I know what it’s like to be trans! I definitely cannot fully relate to the comment but I do understand it. Especially because as the comment discusses, identity and presentation aren’t the same. As a masc lesbian though, I can somewhat relate to part of the description, like feeling like you’re almost battling between your identity and how others perceive you? But I probably don’t understand it in the way that I can truly relate, but I can understand in the way that I grasp what OP is saying and have a queer perspective. But I’m also cis so I’ll never really know how it feels, but I have had my gender questioned before for being an androgynous girl. What I notice is a lot of cishet people confuse queer identity with one another and often see homosexuality and transgenderism as the same because they’re too dumb to understand the difference! I’ve met a lot of people who don’t understand the difference between drag and being trans. While both are queer (drag can be done by non-queers but still) it’s another instance of people failing to understand experimenting with gender presentation or androgyny and how queer people often express themselves outside of stereotypes of gender vs actual gender identity and feelings of gender.
@labellissimabritneyellis7230
@labellissimabritneyellis7230 Месяц назад
Black people only got to be minstrels until minstrel shows became a relic of the past. And unfortunately until these minstrel shows are done away with we will be condemned to the same fate. It's one of the key reasons I am against this whole drag epidemic. Stay strong sister
@RaeCarson
@RaeCarson Месяц назад
I understand what you're saying. Even as a tween, directors would always cast me in character roles because I (according to each of them) had a natural sense of comedic timing and wasn't afraid to act out or "ham it up". But when some others (acquaintances or even strangers) would point out my height or body size/type as "naturally conducive to comedy" or something cringy along those lines, it was ALWAYS much more of a gut-punch than a compliment. These people don't seem to understand that I LOVE the aspects of portraying a character role -- especially in a production that isn't specifically comedic. It takes a lot of stage presence and pizazz to grab and hold the attention of any given audience and discovering the secrets that'll unlock each particular crowd and get them to laugh and enjoy themselves. Yes, I might use my height body size very much to MY advantage but it's not because I want to be the next Melissa McCarthy or w/e. Oh, and for the record, I'm 5'9" and plus-sized, grew up a cisfemale and came out later in life (age 40) as genderqueer and pan.
@SkyeID
@SkyeID День назад
@@livvyyyyyyyyyyy "transgenderism" is an offensive term used by transphobic right-wingers who go on to say that trans people have some kind of sinister agenda to convert their children (or society at large) into the transgenderism cult. I know this because I'm trans and those are the comments I've seen on my RU-vid videos.
@morganer5378
@morganer5378 2 месяца назад
OMG! I'm french and I never notice the hidden word in" Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve and Talent".
@andreyhenriquethomas9554
@andreyhenriquethomas9554 Месяц назад
It took me years to understand it too, sucks to not have english at your first language, sometimes you just completely miss the joke/reference
@smithscullyx
@smithscullyx Месяц назад
@@andreyhenriquethomas9554if it makes you feel better, English IS my first language and it took me a long time to realize that it stood for something 😂
@RaeCarson
@RaeCarson Месяц назад
I was today years old when I learned about this particular backronym.....and I was born, raised, and currently live in the US with English as my primary language. Sooo....you've got AT LEAST 3 different things up on me in this case. xD
@podfruwajk4
@podfruwajk4 7 дней назад
I realized it the moment Jujubee called Tyra "just unt" 😭
@Mushroomelixir
@Mushroomelixir 2 месяца назад
"did you see that article from instinct magazine?" "oh the fracking?" "NO NOT THAT-" "🙅‍♀️" "🙅‍♀️"
@moonsnakesheddingskin
@moonsnakesheddingskin 2 месяца назад
Lol Bob & Pep are the best 💚
@Mushroomelixir
@Mushroomelixir 2 месяца назад
@@moonsnakesheddingskin Ikr??? Icons fr
@noorieboorie
@noorieboorie 2 месяца назад
With the unintentionally synchronized flailing 😂
@QueenRee17
@QueenRee17 2 месяца назад
Probably my favorite clip on youtube
@sarahconnors8909
@sarahconnors8909 2 месяца назад
thinking about the s14 finale where ru asks willow pill about how her chronic illness is and she goes “i don’t see how that’s any of your business” and changes the subject. also! love yvie oddly. i find it worth noting that in AS7, she was talking to ru and michelle about how hard it is to have eds and actively losing mobility. she started crying and made a diffusing joke and both of them commented about how “at least you can laugh about it”. that struck me as really icky when i saw it because she was clearly upset about it
@TheYouPoop
@TheYouPoop 2 месяца назад
I think that's a bit Ru has; she says it's the perfect answer for any question
@beckstheimpatient4135
@beckstheimpatient4135 2 месяца назад
Yvie breaks my heart... you can see she's trying to do as much as she can before her body fails her. To have her mistreated as she was on AS7 is heartbreaking.
@ellariel7457
@ellariel7457 2 месяца назад
Wait! I have checked into and out of watching Drag Race through the years … and have skipped most of AS, obviously, including AS7! As an EDSer myself - there was an EDSer on the show?!? Dropping everything I’m binging to go find Yvie and AS7 - and her original season - NOW!!
@ariazuniga7193
@ariazuniga7193 2 месяца назад
​@@ellariel7457yvie was originally on S11
@DeaDiabola
@DeaDiabola 2 месяца назад
​@ellariel7457 GOOBLE GOBBLE ONE OF US! ONE OF US! As another EDSer I also gotta catch up with AS...though I don't know if I want nor need to see someone like us being mistreated.
@NihilisticWhim
@NihilisticWhim 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this dive. I am an oldhead fan, someone who was a masc4masc cis-whitepassing gay man (or at least thought I was) when the first season came out. My first thought was "Oh great, I guess now LOGO is going down the drain" until I actually sat down and watched it a season later. It was eye opening to me, allowed me to get in touch with my feminine side and also understand the queer community more. I had to do a lot of heavy lifting and I still do, my drag mother was able to slap the casual transphobia out of me years ago that I had learned from RuPaul's early seasons. I am no where near whom I was when RuPaul's show came out and I still watch a lot of it almost religiously out of respect of what it has done for me and for the queer community as a whole. That said, I am not a vocal part of the fandom anymore. I am not a blind believer in RuPaul's image. I know the show can and should do better. Camp Wannakiki (which started here on RU-vid!) and Dragula have both broken barriers seasons ahead of RuPaul. Camp Wannakiki had the first Drag King performer by one season (though they have their own issues with Kings) and they broke a few other barriers. I use those two shows as reference because they have done better, they show different aspects of this niche in our community, and they stride forward. RuPaul's Drag Race (Main Show + All Stars) feels very manufactured now, almost like I'm watching a calculation being worked out with late minute additions by fan theory or responses thrown in. I love drag, I love how it got me out of complacency and stifled stagnation and into activism and helped me discover my own identity as a queer person. I know our current era isn't perfect but man, I'm going to miss it when it's gone.
@droolingfangirl
@droolingfangirl 2 месяца назад
Also a fan from the first show. Me I’m cis, straight, white, etc. I loved from the start how the show seemed to be about humanizing the people who do drag. I was very sad at the problematic aspects, especially how the contracts that they sign end up with them being restricted and used. :(
@Acidfunkish
@Acidfunkish 2 месяца назад
My bro was definitely an assimilationist gay, and always had trans male friends, but def had some problematic views around drag queens and trans women (eg: the act, itself, is disrespectful and inherently appropriation). He was a good person, but lack of exposure kind of narrowed what he deemed "acceptable," unfortunately. Now, he's a huge drag race fan, and able to see more of the nuance behind it. He's even opening up, a tiny, tiny bit, to his feminine side, and isn't so automatically dismissive of femboys, anymore. It has allowed him to grow, as a person, and I'm so proud of him, for that. And, yes, drag can be used for evil, for disrespect, and as appropriation, just like any other art form. But, it can also be used for good, just like any other art form. I hope we continue to see more of the latter. 😊
@arsena5209
@arsena5209 2 месяца назад
I was never a Ru Paul or Ru Paul's drag race fan, only a fan of a few queens who were on the show, mainly Katya and Trixie but at some point also Raja, Raven, Bianca, Bob the Drag Queen and some others, so I don't really have any opinions on Ru Paul, though I have heard about the transphobia before and of course do not approve of it, but I love hearing about people's experiences with him and the show, your comment was very insightful! 😊
@MKMonsterr
@MKMonsterr 2 месяца назад
Jessica, do you know about Deafies in Drag? I feel like that's a RU-vid channel you might be interested in. They make a lot of videos about their experiences as deaf people, and are very fun to watch, especially as a hearing student learning ASL looking to see signing used naturally and in a non-academic setting.
@resourceress7
@resourceress7 2 месяца назад
Yes! Great suggestion. And also, everything is fully captioned in English, so any of you who are intrigued should go ahead and watch. They really have fun with comedy sketches, in exaggerated style. (Best wishes on your ASL learning journey. For building your skills with natural, everyday ASL, find some local Deaf events and be sure to chat with people. In the meantime, RU-vid comedy. :) Also, I encourage you to watch the news in ASL. Try a RU-vid channel called The Daily Moth.)
@Moon17ob
@Moon17ob 2 месяца назад
I just watched all of there shorts. There hilarious and I loved it. Much fun
@weefiah1
@weefiah1 2 месяца назад
“To Woo Fong” Best slip I’ve heard in a while. 😂😂
@mildsoup8978
@mildsoup8978 2 месяца назад
Very underrated kung-fu movie
@RTGrimmer
@RTGrimmer 2 месяца назад
I literally ran down to the comments to be like... "Woo Fong? ... Woo?! FONG?!"
@mariefellensteinhalerealto6263
@mariefellensteinhalerealto6263 Месяц назад
I love Jessica & tried to let it go, but also went back and checked again to hear how she said the title and then headed to the comments too... I wish she had seen that movie so she knew the title. Yes, fictional & fun & superficial perhaps about so many things, but there were many layers to that movie And great that it was about a town of people who started off close-minded but ended up more accepting. Yes, simplistic about complicated themes, but Wow... we need something to help a large part of the country stop being so weirdly close-minded to so much (including all sex for all people and not being realistic about sex, identify, expression, contraception, pregnancy, etc.) the repercussions are going to be huge if this goes too far, basically affecting everyone except old white men. It may just be targeting women's reproductive choice right now, but I have a feeling the next to be toppled will be same sex marriage and LGBTQ rights. But back to the movie: "To Wong Foo: Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar!" The title seems weird till you find out that "Its title refers to an iconic autographed photo of Julie Newmar that they carry with them on their journey. Newmar also has a cameo appearance in the film as herself." For those who aren't from the US & of a certain age, Julie Newmar will mean nothing... But to those who know, Julie Newmar played Catwoman in the Batman TV series. She was sexy as anything. So here's this TV show, sort of made for kids, but with characters like that. Total girl crush on her. She was also a strong female icon... such a contrast to women portrayed on TV back then as "the little woman." More info on Julie Newmar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Newmar
@kelly6677
@kelly6677 Месяц назад
"thanks for everything, *Julia Newmark*" Iconic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tolson642
@tolson642 Месяц назад
I had to pause and replay twice to make sure I hadn't heard it incorrectly, and then a few more times to watch her saying it with such proper English enunciation! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-maj-gZUa6Ag.html at 7:31
@Elirum
@Elirum 2 месяца назад
I really recommend watching a video called “Drag and Feminism” here available on RU-vid. Several drag queens (AFAB, AMAB and non-binary) talk about how much of modern drag is controlled by Drag Race (which can lead to lack of funding to other ventures and very specific views of what drag can be), and how much of drag history starts with trans women and how it’s been hidden. They have a great conversation about gender and performance, and recognizing how much class and education is part of the discussion around it. Also, some genuinely lovely human beings!
@sophiiiiaaa
@sophiiiiaaa 12 дней назад
I couldn't find the video, can you give me the link or the exact title / channel name ? thank you !
@Elirum
@Elirum 12 дней назад
@@sophiiiiaaa Of course! It’s on the Power of Women channel and the full tittle is Drag & Feminism - Bimini Bon Boulash, Ginny Lemon, Tete Bang, Dr Dinah Lux, POW Thanet 2021
@jennifers5560
@jennifers5560 2 месяца назад
So well presented! People are nuanced and I love it how Jessica can talk about the good and the not so good things that people have done without defending or condemning them as people.
@paws2reflect
@paws2reflect 2 месяца назад
Microaggression can feel like violence, I believe. Someone can experience so much racism or other type of discrimination so often that they're in a perpetual state of feeling like they're rubbed raw and bleeding. As a cis white woman, everything is so much easier, and I'm glad to know it and try to be aware. Fatness can be a hot button issue for me, but when you mentioned Ru's comment congratulating a contestant on "rising above" her chronic illness or disability, I LITERALLY, physically flinched away from the screen. "Not being a victim" raises my hackles, too. Acknowledging your race, ethnicity, size, chronic illness or disability as a fact is not playing victim.
@kaworunagisa4009
@kaworunagisa4009 2 месяца назад
Yup. There's a reason Lingchi is a thing, and hopefully a lot of us are aware now that psychological wounds are as valid as the flesh ones.
@dopaminedrought395
@dopaminedrought395 2 месяца назад
They do feel like violence, and they make people feel unsafe. And yeah, +1 to everything you said about "rising above" and "not being a victim". Me stating a fact about myself like my chronic illness isn't "being a victim". The whole 'rise above' narrative is another way of saying "don't rock the boat, don't attack the status quo, ignore systemic issues, it's your personal responsibility"
@ariadne0w1
@ariadne0w1 2 месяца назад
Well-said. We are learning, again and again, about just how bad stress is for the body. It can be genuinely disabling and lead to early death. And if someone has reason to believe, because of how microagressions reveal a person's beliefs, conscious and subconscious biases, that "I am not safe here/I can't trust this person" again and again in all aspects of their life, well that does real damage.
@fartmagus
@fartmagus 2 месяца назад
Thanks for acknowledging that.
@Dekubud
@Dekubud Месяц назад
You're very right. As a trans guy who it still struggling to pass, I never know if I will get misgendered by someone unless I know them well, so every time it happens, it feels like a slap to the face. Even if most of those slaps as accidental, an accidental slap is a slap regardless. You have to steel yourself for every new interaction, which is exhausting, but if you don't, you get emotionally hurt and have to recover from that, which is even more exhausting. I'm also have invisible disabilities, chronic illnesses and am a cultural and linguistic minority where I live so I always do my best to show others in a similar position that they are safe around me. If I can get a racialized person or someone with a disability more incapacitating than mine to make jokes about their situation around me, I take that as a badge of honor. Weight issues make me sad because as a guy, I don't know how to comfort women about their appearance. Things I could say before I started my transition could now be misinterpreted, which would just lead to them feeling worse. Hopefully listening and complaining how bullcrap some expectation are is enough.
@micheledeetlefs6041
@micheledeetlefs6041 2 месяца назад
You mistakenly listed Tennessee as being in the process of implementing a drag ban. In fact, the law which would have banned drag performances in the presence of children was overturned in a federal court the end of 2023 and not only was never enforced, it can never be enforced. So Tennessee is not in the process of implementing the law. Yes, technically it could be appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court, and heaven only knows what they would rule. But the Tennessee attorney general informed the state legislature proposed resolution was unconstitutional before they even held the first vote on the bill, and they've been extremely lackluster in defending the the law, so I sincerely doubt it will ever be reinstated. It reminds me of our old sodomy laws. I worked for the office of the attorney general of Tennessee in the '90s when those laws were challenged in court. Since the attorney general had already told the governor, the law was unconstitutional, and the governor insisted that the laws be defended anyway, the then sitting Tennessee attorney general assigned it to the single most fabulous and flamboyant gay man on the entire staff. It was hilarious watching his defense of the law. And little wonder that it was defeated in court! Still one of the few good memories I have of working at the attorney general's office!
@nobody08088
@nobody08088 2 месяца назад
That's amazing! Good to see tennessee isn't implementing any laws like that. 😅
@micheledeetlefs6041
@micheledeetlefs6041 2 месяца назад
@@nobody08088 Well, Don't give Tennessee the credit. Give the court that invalidated the law of the credit. Because, frankly, our state legislature and our governor seem to be utterly without common sense. They keep debating whether or not to outlaw things which are not proven to exist.
@fartmagus
@fartmagus 2 месяца назад
​@@micheledeetlefs6041❤❤❤❤
@BarbieDreamDungeon
@BarbieDreamDungeon Месяц назад
​@micheledeetlefs6041 Reminds me of laws like no skydiving on tuesdays and can't have a donkey in your bathtub type stuff
@BarbieDreamDungeon
@BarbieDreamDungeon Месяц назад
​@micheledeetlefs6041 Reminds me of laws like no skydiving on tuesdays and can't have a donkey in your bathtub type stuff
@spoookley
@spoookley 2 месяца назад
FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT RUPAUL’S FRACKING!!! i’ve known about this for a while now, looked into it during a drawfee livestream cuz someone in the chat mentioned that they worked on an oil rig with a bright pink star painted on it or something lol
@annalisasteinnes
@annalisasteinnes 2 месяца назад
Hello from another Drawfee fan! That's wild about the oil rig. Like, it's evil, but in an inclusive way?
@dr.latency8679
@dr.latency8679 2 месяца назад
Lmfaoo???? (drawfee mentioned letsgooo)
@ultimatequeenofdeath666
@ultimatequeenofdeath666 Месяц назад
woah wtf a drawfee mention in the wild???
@user-yy7gq5yw5k
@user-yy7gq5yw5k Месяц назад
Bro what ☠️
@andrewgawlik4961
@andrewgawlik4961 Месяц назад
​@@annalisasteinnesI think the phrase might be "pink washing"
@KeilaAnn3610
@KeilaAnn3610 2 месяца назад
I was introduced into Drag culture by my best friend's mom and her boyfriend(longstory short, he was a trans man before even gay people seemed to accept it, she constantly referred to her own SO as she but I will not) who were both Kings, it was fun to learn more about them.. we lived in a very small town and her mom was the first openly lesbian woman so I got to overhear a lot of the town's opinions before I was allowed to go to her house. Even from my own family. But they both introduced me to their life, in an age appropriate way, and really helped me learn to express myself without caring what my midwest town thought of me.
@arsena5209
@arsena5209 2 месяца назад
wonderful story, hope the trans man you're talking about is doing well if he's still here and if not then that after what you described he was doing alright
@KeilaAnn3610
@KeilaAnn3610 2 месяца назад
@@arsena5209 they have since broken up, but I do see him every now and then at my job and we say hi to each other. He seems much happier now, from my outsider's view
@PhoebeFayRuthLouise
@PhoebeFayRuthLouise 2 месяца назад
I really appreciate your well balanced take on Ru and Drag Race! I especially like how you addressed the way chronic illness is depicted!
@qryptid
@qryptid 2 месяца назад
I can appreciate what drag in general and RPDR have done for queer people while still not supporting RP. The amount of transphobia perpetuated by a celebrity in a scene where so many transwomen find themselves is baffling and honestly any queer person who has a single disrespectful thing to say about transwomen needs to learn some things about 20th century queer history. Mattel is honoring RP with a Monster High Collector Doll and I'm like 🤢🤢🤢 while all icons are people and people are inherently flawed, there are so many better choices for a brand about being unique and yourself than a person who publically promoted and spread hate without apology.
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
I agree with this sentiment but I can also see it as like Trixie being professional about Ru since yk Ru also signs her paycheck essentially (like in terms of winning her season and such), it makes it harder for someone in that position to speak out about anything and I can get that HOWEVER that being said Trixie specifically has her own money thanks to her own makeup company which is quite successful so idk haha
@wiseathena97
@wiseathena97 Месяц назад
@@dionysus4742 girl I think they were referencing Mattel the doll company, not Trixie 😅😅
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
@@wiseathena97 yeah could be XD
@luistigerfox
@luistigerfox 29 дней назад
Man, as a queer person (gay male) who has loved quite a bit of drag performances because of RuPaul but only vaguely ever kept up with anything beyond the performances... It saddens me to hear that RP has this whole transphobia issue going on... I legitimately don't understand anyone in/around the queer community being exclusionary and hating on trans people. Legitimately, with all of the struggles we've been through, we should be expected to hold a high standard of empathy toward the other, to not add to their own struggles by refusing to accept or acknowledge them. I have numerous trans friends in my life at this point, and I cherish them and support them in their fight to just be true to their gender and the ways they want to express their gender. Trans rights are human rights.
@SkyeID
@SkyeID День назад
@@luistigerfox I can't count how many times gay cis men have had an issue with my existence as a trans person. Can we stop this madness and come together to support one another? Life as an LGBTQIA+ person is hard enough as it is!
@jaguarenduda
@jaguarenduda 2 месяца назад
30:01 ok. I'm writing my academic thesis on Drag Race right now AND Iw watched The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent last night. did you make this video for me?
@calebash82
@calebash82 2 месяца назад
Celebrating somebody's ability to rise above their chronic conditions, whilst in a position of extreme power, in this case, reeks of "Thank f*** I didn't have to accommodate for this in any way for you to be on my show".
@gh0stcup
@gh0stcup 2 месяца назад
Miss Jessica said "oh, we are gonna talk about the fracking!"
@justynmatlock8873
@justynmatlock8873 2 месяца назад
'Drag Race' resulting in Drag Queen slang passing into the mainstream has echoes of how the characters of Jules & Sandy on' 'Round the Horne', led to the mainstreamization of Polari in the 'sixties. Which was covered, of course, in the video on Polari.
@triplef-funfromfreddy4356
@triplef-funfromfreddy4356 2 месяца назад
Just a quick side note: just because Drag Kings are not visible, that doesnt mean that they are less common. They do exist... many of then do.
@feathersoffancy8988
@feathersoffancy8988 2 месяца назад
100%!! They’re less publicized, but (at least from my perception in the community) there’s not less drag kings than drag queens! I’d argue there isn’t a market asking for drag kings so you don’t often see it on tv or performed at gay bars and stuff
@triplef-funfromfreddy4356
@triplef-funfromfreddy4356 2 месяца назад
@@feathersoffancy8988 Well... that's kind of my point, except for the rumors that a market is on the go.
@naomirmckay3368
@naomirmckay3368 Месяц назад
I think it might have to do with the idea that femininity is entertainment, while ~of course~, masculinity is serious business, so why would I watch masc drag lol (I do not agree with this lmao)
@annnoying5513
@annnoying5513 Месяц назад
@@naomirmckay3368 Nah that's not the reason. You think the average queer bar guest views masculinity as "serious business"? We live in a world made by straight men for straight men, so of course the market for diving into a feminized queer fantasy is much bigger than one involving yet another performance of masculinity. It's more fun seeing feminity celebrated as that is an aspect of us we are usually mocked for embracing, no matter your gender. You gain a sense of not being wrong for who you are. That's an important liberating message which a performers of masculinity lack, cause it's already normalized by society at large to perform masculinity, even to a ridiculous degree. Masculinity isn't comforting/liberating, it's oppressive. That being said I'm not against Drag Kings and even really want them on Drag Race. But that's my personal analysis why Drag Kings simply haven't had the same appeal and market as Drag Queens. The underlying message is just completely different.
@cottontail5109
@cottontail5109 29 дней назад
​@@naomirmckay3368I never thought of that! Thats probably true, and I think we are a bit more confident in men's talents and performances
@Elektrochoke
@Elektrochoke 2 месяца назад
Sisterhood, not cisterhood! And above everything, humanhood 💖Thanks for the video, Jessica.
@thedragonsunicorn
@thedragonsunicorn 2 месяца назад
jessica talking about mother ru??? i never thought this day would come 🙈
@jessicaoutofthecloset
@jessicaoutofthecloset 2 месяца назад
😂❤️
@charlymicky1722
@charlymicky1722 2 месяца назад
Your pink sparkly dress in the very last part of the video! It is so sparkly it looks like a soft pink glittery mist. Very cool! And of course thanks for this interesting video!
@HOHNancy
@HOHNancy 2 месяца назад
I’ve seen RuPaul in an old 1980s music video by the B-52s’ “Love Shack”. Tin Roof Rusted!
@SkyeID
@SkyeID День назад
I never even noticed her in that video, but then again, I never looked very closely at that video. "Love Shack" was played to death in the 90's!
@OsirisMalkovich
@OsirisMalkovich 2 месяца назад
You nailed 'Pintrest Librarian!'
@eykyra
@eykyra 2 месяца назад
I only watched season 13. And besides the fact I didn't understand many things like how they seemed to poke on drama between contestants and the whole pit crew being naked thing, I perceived the message and attitude to be very positive and I appreciated the contestants had deep and meaningful conversations on race, their families, diversity and so on. I also appreciated that Gottmik was very vocal about being trans and overall his identity seemed to be unquestioned in the show. Now that I see all this, I realize that part of that might have been redemption from past criticism. Especially since you mentioned both racism and fatphobia being endorsed, I feel like he might have been overcompensating that with the special treatment given to Kandy Muse.
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
Yeah I see it purely as a PR redemption thing.. Which is still good in a way because we all got blessed with Gottmik! It reminds me about when companies will market LGBT+ during pride month and such just to get the muns, even if its not representation done with heart it can still do SUM good at least IMO
@eykyra
@eykyra Месяц назад
@@dionysus4742 Yeah I totally agree. Eventually if someone with a platform is criticised for certain representation or views and they correct those, I think it's a win whatever the reason. The impact is what really matters and I think seeing people like Gottmik in Drag Race is positive because it's telling that trans people can in fact and want to do drag as well (and that they can be very good at it too!)
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
@@eykyra indeed honestly obsessed with Gottmik 🥺
@eykyra
@eykyra Месяц назад
@@dionysus4742 My fave although I do admit Symone worked hard for that crown and was well deserved
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
@@eykyra oh yeah 100% agree also loved Symone
@Handnail
@Handnail 2 месяца назад
For furture endeavors may I offer a possible PG version: Motherfluffer! Could apply for everything fluffy like cute pets or in terms of costumes everything with impressive ruffles? Or general fluffy shapes, skirts and so on. ^_^
@sarahblack9333
@sarahblack9333 2 месяца назад
Replying to boost this excellent suggestion and to also suggest the term "son of a biscuit" as another RU-vid monetization friendly alternative to a common phrase
@avamcz8154
@avamcz8154 2 месяца назад
as an afab drag artist i'm not ready to watch this one just yet, but i appreciate you Jessica!!!🩷 would love if you did one on Dragula too💞
@theythemgae9025
@theythemgae9025 2 месяца назад
Finally, it's like everyone is afraid to talk about it! He can be amazing in some ways and also not be perfect in other ways and downright unpleasant in other ways. There was a lot of upset around RPDR UK when it first started because the community is quite diverse and it's not uncommon for non binary folks, women (trans or cis) to be part of local scenes and the non cis men & cis dude allies were pretty concerned. Not sure if anyone other than cis men are in the show as I can't get it in NZ and honestly we have a lot of serious stuff going on rn (and my chronic migraines don't exactly help) so looking into all the UK drag race peeps isn't worth my spoons but I hope everyone got a fair shot. Enjoying the video so far 😊 good stoof! Edit: great to hear this discussion included, also great to see a figure being acknowledged and criticized respectfully, with an acknowledgement that he's human, a flawed, beautiful, neuanced, glorious human.
@CalamityCannon
@CalamityCannon 2 месяца назад
A ton of contestants identify as trans now - there are surely listicles online - but Peppermint (s9) was the first trans woman and Gottmik (s13) was the first trans man to enter the competition openly identifying as such. Both superbly talented queens. I remember Gottmik in particular being allowed to compete was a big deal, reported as arguably a bit of a PR response to Ru's previous trans bias (that I must assume - still watching - the video gets into)
@AleeshaWeesha
@AleeshaWeesha 2 месяца назад
The community, especially the drag community have been talking about this for years. I've known of RuPaul since his club kid days. I agree 100% when you said, "He can be amazing in some ways and also not be perfect in other ways and downright unpleasant in other ways."
@theythemgae9025
@theythemgae9025 2 месяца назад
​@@CalamityCannoncheers, yeah I kinda went off drag race for a bit. It was just bad timing as I was dealing with a bunch of transphobia at the time (both personally and within the country there was an uptick) so when I saw RuPaul's comments abt trans contestants drag race went from a fun show in my mind to a "I'm probably not welcome here" space. So I kinda of avoided it. Not because the show is anti-trans but just because I think there was so much painful negativity and I saw the comments and honestly couldn't bring myself to look deeper in fear of there being some really darkly anti trans stuff. Having watched this video & read yr comment I can see that's not the case, which is good because I've kinda missed it and have been thinking about watching again 😊 Thank you for sharing what you know too as I am glad to hear so much has changed. I've been aware of some of the queens, Bob, Sasha & Jinkx are a couple of my faves. I've never stopped watching drag performances irl and drag queens who have been on the show in their own projects.
@CalamityCannon
@CalamityCannon 2 месяца назад
@@theythemgae9025 Oh I feel you. And fans of the same! Jinkx holds a special place in my heart. The "all winners" All Star season is pretty fun. Or you can just search yt for a compilation of her best moments in that season (I think posted by the DR account) and get your cackles but save a lot of time
@CalamityCannon
@CalamityCannon 2 месяца назад
@@theythemgae9025 I feel you! And understand and am sorry for all you've been dealing with. If you want a serotonin boost, search YT for a compilation of Jinkx in the "all winners" All Stars season. I think posted by the official DR account. You don't need to have seen the season to enjoy it. It's a real treat, especially for a fan
@redblaquegolden
@redblaquegolden 2 месяца назад
Without RuPaul, I don't know if I would be a drag queen now. Without that, I don't know if I would have fully discovered my transness... It's wild how much this man I've never met has impacted my literal actual life.
@rainkidwell2467
@rainkidwell2467 2 месяца назад
It's weird because many of us have the opposite experience. I avoided transition because I feared being seen as a drag queen, was told that's what I'd be if I transitioned. Drag kept me in the closet for twenty years
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
@@rainkidwell2467 kinda makes me think of how homophobia leaks in from all kinds of angles for no good reason like being passed down to us thru parents or society both directly and indirectly making something seem as a negative thing etc etc, like I remember trying to google about trans people but at the time they were still called the t slur and were just seen so negatively that that was all I understood at the time so I avoided anything like that also including when I asked my mother about it and she was ignorant about it too so that didnt help. Drag itself isnt a bad thing but society often painted it as such etc its so silly isnt it?
@DoodlesFool
@DoodlesFool 28 дней назад
I am a drag king, I may not have been inspired by Rupaul but Trixie Mattel seriously got me obsessed. Trixie is a huge fan of Rupaul, despite not being a fan of Rupaul he still has effect me into being a Drag king somehow. It’s so incredibly interesting how influential he is.
@amylou22snowhite
@amylou22snowhite 2 месяца назад
I watched Drag Race 15 years ago, while pregnant with my oldest. I was so mad when Ongina lost that I swore it off for years. It’s still my favorite tho.
@BearlyAiden
@BearlyAiden 2 месяца назад
I wanted Ongina to win so badly
@amylou22snowhite
@amylou22snowhite 2 месяца назад
@@BearlyAiden They inspired me to start making fascinators, which I now do professionally. I am still such a fan of their work.
@BearlyAiden
@BearlyAiden 2 месяца назад
@@amylou22snowhite That's awesome! Congratulations!
@KattReen
@KattReen 2 месяца назад
Oh, Ongina was so sweet, and fabulous! I liked Nina Flowers. I wasn't all that peeved about the result, the first season was not very high stakes, and sometimes I miss the more relaxed way of things. I think I made it until season 7 or 8 before RPDR burnout. I also watched the season they made in my country, Sweden. It was fun, but didn't get great numbers past the premiere, so I don't think they're making any more. It's a shame, I really liked the vibe.
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
her and Nina really really deserved the win over Bebe IMO they were both such amazing people that had so much more to offer as a whole rather than Miss Bebe eugh
@kseni_vely
@kseni_vely 2 месяца назад
Every time Jessica says "RuPaul" (even though it's not exaggerated) I'm transported to Dela's snatch game as Dame Maggie Smith 🪄💫 😆
@madeleinetremblay9315
@madeleinetremblay9315 2 месяца назад
That’s exactly what came to my mind too 🤣
@popsicleemperor
@popsicleemperor 2 месяца назад
I would hesitate to suggest that someone in such a position of power and wealth has 'changed their views' based on public statements (and on social media) versus actual treatment and engagement with trans and gender diverse people and communities. I also don't think calling trans folks 'teachers' and a vague 'apology' is actually making noticeable change and acknowledging behaviors and problems (not to mention its not trans and gender diverse folks responsibility to teach you to not be a bigot). It seems that these 'changes in attitude/belief' only came after backlash. He should still be held accountable for his actions. I would be DEEPLY hesitant to remove the responsibility of harm and continued problematic behavior of Ru Paul overall. I appreciate the nuance you included in this!
@vilukisu
@vilukisu 2 месяца назад
And are we not mentioning the time RuPaul tweeted something about trans people, intended to put a trans flag, but the flag he got was something to do with trains, and apparently he didn't notice the mistake, since he posted it lol
@dionysus4742
@dionysus4742 Месяц назад
Exactly my thinking! It sucks too cause its like damn I WISH it was just a simple mistake that he was actually trying to improve upon but he literally hasnt actually expressed any of that besides just a vague apology as you say and I mean I wish it was genuine because of all the good he HAS actually done besides the awful things at least and the things he COULD do or represent for with the LGBT+ community, its just so sad and disappointing really :( Literally makes me think of the Tyra Banks meme of "we were rooting for you! WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU!!"
@VioletFem
@VioletFem 2 месяца назад
I appreciate your thorough and thoughtful summary of RuPaul‘s impact on pop culture. RuPaul is a controversial person because he’s done a lot of great things to provide a platform for hundreds of drag queens to be able to have careers lucrative careers . However, as you detailed in your video there have been times he has said some very hurtful things. I think it’s good that he’s also been open to that criticism and has actually evolved and changed his position on many issues. I think one of the problems that RuPaul still runs into is that he overly romanticizes the idea of the personal narrative of an individual overcoming systemic barriers. In someways, he has been able to overcome a lot of barriers in his life that have resulted in him being extremely successful. However , I think it’s hard for him to understand how he is kind of exceptional in that regard. For most people facing discrimination, expecting them to overcome every barrier they encounter without any change in the society is unreasonable. I also think he doesn’t recognize how much society had to progress to even be able to accept a drag queen to succeed to the level that he has.
@Lazy_Fish_Keeper
@Lazy_Fish_Keeper 2 месяца назад
💯
@thehauntedwitch1313
@thehauntedwitch1313 2 месяца назад
The word DRAG was first used by William Shakespeare. When righting his plays he would write the word DRAG in the corners of the page to indicate "Dressed As Girl" in that scene . . . As all actors back in the day were men.
@RLelling
@RLelling Месяц назад
This is apocryphal and a widely believed myth that is not true.
@anotherlemontree
@anotherlemontree Месяц назад
This origin story is almost certainly a myth, alas.
@michcarp
@michcarp 2 месяца назад
not me (a Michelle) having to check the screen to make sure mother was not scolding me 🤣 26:45
@lizard1325
@lizard1325 2 месяца назад
oh wow this video came at a perfect time for me, when I'm in the middle of a drag race / queens from drag race hyperfixation. I double-taked when I saw the thumbnail lol. Super excited to dive into this one.
@zozo624
@zozo624 2 месяца назад
I must applaud your transition to the ad. I barely noticed and I love how creative YTrs get when insertinng them!
@jeffafa3096
@jeffafa3096 2 месяца назад
Drag is not being trans, and being trans is not drag. There are drag kings/queens out there that aren't trans, and there are trans people out there that aren't drag kings/queens. But they can meet, and that's a personal preference. Not all people have similar interests (thankfully)...
@hehe-oi6ud
@hehe-oi6ud 2 месяца назад
ooh I can’t wait to hear Jessica’s opinion on this
@KxNOxUTA
@KxNOxUTA Месяц назад
Here we go. If we cannot talk calmly about problems within our own communities, then how can we expect ppl outside said communities to calmly talk about problems that we bring up with them and they also bring upwith us. The whole GOAL here is for everything to be so normal, that people can be safe with each other, especially when addressing conflicting need and wants. Regardless of us doing so with individual matters or group dynamics. AND often forgotten: this also includes the normalisation to the point where people can be safe when issues can be brought up with them. Aka ppl asked for support and accommodation to be safe, as the dynamic works like: "I care for ppl around me, so their needs are important to me. And my needs are important to them, so they'll also attend to my needs and boundaries in the process". We're aiming at reducing "competition of needs" and normalising "cooperation of needs"
@helensernett9477
@helensernett9477 2 месяца назад
This was a masterpiece. The three costumes/characters…the asides…and good research. Well done. Usually in the US the mineral rights go with the surface land use, but some states and jurisdictions have different restrictions, etc. So for anyone buying land in the US or a house and the land it is on, generally speaking you won’t have to worry about someone coming along and fracking under your home.
@Byronlegrand6470
@Byronlegrand6470 2 месяца назад
This is the first video of yours that's been recommended to me, and I thinks it's time for a channel binge. History, specifically LGBTQA+ history is one of my favorite things. And your voice/energy/humor are all *chefs kiss*
@trisharaichatterjee2578
@trisharaichatterjee2578 2 месяца назад
Jessica, thanks for making the vid... I use to watch the show but I have only watch so much. Until I kind of lost track.
@t1dotaku
@t1dotaku 2 месяца назад
I love how Drag Race is such a huge icon for the LGBTQ community that is was bordeline controversial on the show that there was a *gasp* cis straight whote man on it. Its like the reverse of what normally happens and I LOVE the drama it caused. Really put a lot of things into perspective with how silly people act whenever there's a *gasp* LGBTQ person/character in a show.
@thedragonsunicorn
@thedragonsunicorn 2 месяца назад
alternatively, some think that the title 'drag' comes from the acronym 'dressed resembling a girl'... take that with a pinch of salt as the origin of the title is not definitively known.
@13myrrh
@13myrrh 2 месяца назад
Most docos I've seen link it to dragging long train dress and capes.
@jesslikescoffee24
@jesslikescoffee24 2 месяца назад
Yeah that’s a backronym, not history
@OpalLeigh
@OpalLeigh 2 месяца назад
⁠@@jesslikescoffee24I didn’t know “backronym” was a word I needed in my life 😂 I love it.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 2 месяца назад
The first use of drag in this sense is at least as early as 1860. However, in 1909 it was explained in a dictionary of Victorian slang as: "Drag (Theat.), petticoat or skirt used by actors when playing female parts. Derived from the drag of the dress, as distinct from the non-dragginess of the trouser." "Also given to feminine clothing by eccentric youths when dressing in skirts." J. R. Ware, Passing English of Victorian Era 117/1
@lauravampire1276
@lauravampire1276 2 месяца назад
The fracking episode in Bojack makes so much more sense now lol
@AndromedaCripps
@AndromedaCripps Месяц назад
I laughed out loud at “Just look at Nicolas Cage!” 😂😂😂 I appreciate this video. As a trans woman, I have ALWAYS been a little put off by drag and never let myself enjoy it because, as discussed, the vast majority of non-allies still think transgender means transvestite, and that perception really contributes heavily to the dangers we face in society. It scares me so much that even when I began to hear about trans women who do drag, I was put off. It’s scary because, if one woman does it, it feels like conservatives will believe that all trans women are putting on a show of hyper femininity and not just, you know, being regular women. I overcame that fear, which was close-minded, as I saw more and more trans people and people of all genders doing drag. But I still don’t really feel comfortable around drag, somewhere deep inside, like an unresolved trauma. All my friends watch Drag Race and of course I hear about it all the time, as well as how many contestants have been trans recently, and it actually has made me feel a bit a pride, even though I’m still scared of drag. Because there’s probably still more trans people on Drag Race alone in a given year than on the rest of national television combined. That’s representation, even if it’s not in the form I want it in. I really appreciated this video and the discussion of trans people in relation to RuPaul and it was very informative. As you can tell, I am actually super sympathetic to his original viewpoint that the trans and drag communities should be separate. But just like Ru, I’ve come around to the idea that they can be separate things and still overlap and comingle. Anyone can express themselves however they want as long as it doesn’t hurt others, after all!!
@licensed_loser
@licensed_loser 2 месяца назад
So excited for this vid!!!❤
@nickalbin3523
@nickalbin3523 Месяц назад
Regarding the fracking... I won't say I know all the laws regarding mineral rights, but when I bought a home in the Midwest and inquired about Mineral rights, I was told they go with the land unless there is a specific note for them in the paperwork. If it is the same in that state as this state, they most definitely have a say in whether fracking happens.
@nikolaizarnick1925
@nikolaizarnick1925 2 месяца назад
To anyone interested in some FIERCE drag kings, I recommend looking up the influence that Dope Saint Jude has had on the growing South African drag scene.
@creepycutiecrafty
@creepycutiecrafty 29 дней назад
What an excellent exploration! I love the details and issues highlighted here, and I love that both the good and … “needs improving” point have been covered. It’s beautiful that RuPaul and co are actively learning - and learning how to use their position for positive change. We all stumble, but how we move forward makes all the difference
@limolnar
@limolnar 2 месяца назад
Well done, Jessica!! Also "To Woo Fong"? Work! LOL
@sua8638
@sua8638 2 месяца назад
Ooo I've been waiting for this girlllll
@WendyWinchester
@WendyWinchester 2 месяца назад
I love "To Wong Fu". One of my fave movies ever. :)
@niko_nii
@niko_nii 2 месяца назад
I've been waiting for this!
@Zaddy-Lu
@Zaddy-Lu Месяц назад
I just started watching, so forgive me if you mention this, but my brain doesn't always brain well, so I wanted to comment while I was thinking about it. I first saw RuPaul in the movie But, I'm a Cheerleader (made in 1999, I saw it in 2001) and I really liked and appreciated him. A few years ago, I heard him tell a story about being on his balcony late one night looking over the Hudson River in New York City. He saw a boat that had capsized & was sinking with a very frezied and desperate man on board. RuPaul prayed for god to save the man, then went back into his apartment, and chose not to call energency services because he trusted god would save the man (for those who don't know, the Hudson River is very cold, it is likely that man passed away from hypothermia.) I cannot look at him with anything but dusgust after that.
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops 2 месяца назад
Seriously have wondered why no one talks about this.
@randomhuman_05
@randomhuman_05 2 месяца назад
unrelated but I love your @
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops 2 месяца назад
@@randomhuman_05 Thank you
@AleeshaWeesha
@AleeshaWeesha 2 месяца назад
Oh, plenty of people have talked about it for years.
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops 2 месяца назад
@@AleeshaWeesha Not enough people.
@BearlyAiden
@BearlyAiden 2 месяца назад
It's not that it's not talked about. A lot of the comunity just chooses to ignore it.
@jeannebrdt
@jeannebrdt 2 месяца назад
Wonderful video and OBSSESSED with that multilayered pearls necklace
@Eco_Lps18
@Eco_Lps18 2 месяца назад
Thank you for talking about this!!
@pr3ttyflaw3d49
@pr3ttyflaw3d49 10 дней назад
Tu Wong Fu: Thanks for everything Julie Newmark. That was a halarious movie. Great video, love your style! ❤
@prettynsleepy1073
@prettynsleepy1073 2 месяца назад
This was amazing. Thank you for this deep dive. Your the best
@sallyjordan4869
@sallyjordan4869 2 месяца назад
What a brilliant video, Jessica, especially the gentle reminder around minute 34. Lovely as always. 🎀💖🎀
@Zelda0Lah
@Zelda0Lah 2 месяца назад
Your voice is so soothing, if you read audiobooks it would be amaaaaazing
@lindaewart5691
@lindaewart5691 2 месяца назад
This is fascinating. I've never actually seen RuPaul's show but I'm probably going to check it out. Something I saw years ago, a film called Victor Victoria starring Julie Andrews and James Garner Julie dresses as a man to perform a lounge Act and poor James Garner finds himself drawn to her even though he is straight, while still thinking she's a man. It was quite interesting. And I'm sure you've already previously addressed the fact that during the 16th and 17th centuries and even later female parts in stage plays were played by men who dressed up as women. So honestly, why are people so upset about drag queens reading to little kids. They're just guys in a costume for Pete's sake.
@goddess131
@goddess131 2 месяца назад
wow, thank you for this detailed deep dive, I really appreciate all of the work that you put into this!❤❤❤❤
@BADwolf4032
@BADwolf4032 2 месяца назад
I love your vibe great video and I am surprised that Rupaul doesn’t have collectible, playing cards of all of the queens😂
@nilsbauer6994
@nilsbauer6994 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this video. Research, writing and attention to nuance and detail, bravo. Also, unrelated to the quality of the content/ narration - your outfits are immaculate as always. I'm always delighted by your style whenever I watch one of your videos.
@a_viewer5386
@a_viewer5386 Месяц назад
Ballroom threw me up bc I do ballroom dancing (very different than queer ballroom)
@annikaausder3359
@annikaausder3359 2 месяца назад
so interessting!! I'd also love a video on drag history and the house system!!
@rhiannon1833
@rhiannon1833 Месяц назад
is that madame x with a teddy bear in the background?! omg it’s awesome.
@jennyfer8316
@jennyfer8316 15 дней назад
All of your comments and videos are so thoughtful and well researched. I want to share some broad stroke commentary adding some historic context I often see omitted. I’m never sure if it’s assumed to be known or lost to time so I like to share. Some additional insight: Ru was in a lot of main stream shows in the 90’s; guest hosting and staring in a variety of pop cultural spaces. He was the main, if not only, Drag performer the general population in the US was aware of at the time. People had a lot of questions/concerns and his whole truth was opaque in the main stream media. Depending on the audience/publication In several instances He could either be a drag perform or be gay. E.g. His guest role on …Martin (I think that was the show) His drag character was explicitly a straight man who liked to dress up. It was an endearing episode but limited in scope of full acceptance. In the early aughts, under President Bush, the climate wasn’t safe or as celebratory for drag performers or LGBTQ+. Partially because of the political climate Ru rarely performed during this decade. Starting Drag Race at the same time as that shift to President Obama was a major step for the culture. All of the initial contestants are truly brave; facing unknown consequences going on tv. Ru coming back to performing and leveraging his reputation was a bit of a risk which luckily has aided the current celebration of drag and queer culture. I think planning the show to Get the main stream reacquainted with drag in a way that people would continue to welcome it caused an initial (& elongated) suppression of representation. These same issues you touch on have been brought up in relation to NYC Pride parade and LGBT magazines like the Advocate in recent years, yet they are not discussed in the main stream. these fights on those platforms. so, while frustrating that these issues exist on Drag Race, the show has become the rally point for these deeper topics that may not have been noticed by the audience at large. As a community expands and becomes safer for people to be a part of new generations may not fully understand the navigation that others fought through to open the doors for them. There are still modern hardships and battles to fight, but they are different and generally better organized. In advocacy, People work hard to break through stigmas but can get stuck in the hang ups of “the way things were” and react as if those parameters are still in play even though they no longer stand - a behavioral fog that lingers. Holding people to evolved standards as the culture catches up is great. Giving time for “elders” to adjust to modern realities is also important. I love that all of these conversations are happening openly rather than through the historic regional /whisper networks. We should all be able to celebrate our true selves without fear. Supporting each other to find our best selves is essential. I feel We all have prejudices, whether we recognize them or not, and having them constructively called out so they can be worked through ideally, allows us to interact with compassion. P.s. talking about environment concerns: airline pollution from all the appearances should be discussed. Fracking is horrible but regional. Jets are an international constant. Seriously though, as bad as fracking is to the water, land and air - firefighters don’t know the chemicals used because they are “proprietary.” So if/when things go wrong there is limited emergency preparation. Bonkers. - I know my sleep deprived comments are a bit all over the place. I hope they make sense. I really adore all that you share with the world.
@mediazification
@mediazification Месяц назад
I never saw To Woo Fong thanks for everything Julie Newmark, but I'm gonna check it out
@JurrBTful
@JurrBTful 2 месяца назад
Loved the video. Also, can we just agree that you will be our future spokesperson for everything LGBT-related?
@rae3043
@rae3043 2 месяца назад
Ive been WAITING for this video
@disgust4941
@disgust4941 2 месяца назад
You’re so well spoken, incredible video
@user-km6fk8tt9n
@user-km6fk8tt9n 2 месяца назад
Great content. Great to hear you speaking on the issues around Drag Race and also pointing out that double edged sword of Drag Race becoming so mainstream. I used to love it but I noticed a lot of the same negatives in the show. You are one of the few I have seen speaking on the gaslighting of The Vixen. They were completely vilified and made to look like they were bullying Eureka. But it was Eureka who was using micro aggressions towards The Vixen was harshly criticised and suffered from it and still gets flack from certain demographics within the community and that’s disheartening . A lot of older members of the community sometimes have a hard time moving past that… well I struggled, so should you, mentality. I love your dry witty comments and take on delivering issues and various history regarding LGBTQIA+ and Disabled individuals. Keep it up 👍 🎉❤ Rather than banding together. I live in hope that we will grow and learn from the past mistakes and evolve together.
@theythemgae9025
@theythemgae9025 2 месяца назад
Its a bold af title. 😮 Very well researched video 😊
@jennifers5560
@jennifers5560 2 месяца назад
But was it a Mothertucking good title? 😂
@LauraMalfoy2011
@LauraMalfoy2011 2 месяца назад
As someone that got to know more about drag through Drag Race, I can accept and understand the criticism, while also having to agree that RuPaul plays a major role in the LGBTQIA+ community. I guess that, in the end, no person is perfect. I was very pleased when he apologised for his comments/views on trans people and how he acted on it by doing changes in the show. With all its limitations, Drag Race can actually help people learn more about Drag performers. So, all in all, I think he's a generally okay person with flaws, who is willing to learn and grow - and that's more than most people seem to do *cough* JKR *cough* tysm for this deep dive!
@LUNNATELIER
@LUNNATELIER 20 часов назад
29:45 Hi! Just to clear something up, Sasha Colby is the first openly trans winner in fhe main RPDR series but there have already been 2 trans winners from other spin-offs prior to her. First was Angele Anang of Drag Race Thailand S2 and Kylie Sonique Love who won All Stars 6 (previously competed in Drag Race Season 2 where I believe she came out as trans during the reunion episode).
@user-hi7le7bv6q
@user-hi7le7bv6q 2 месяца назад
He accidentally dropshipped Mein Campf and What is a woman this year, sad you didn't mention that He's a literal villan, guys
@aspidoscelis
@aspidoscelis 2 месяца назад
Re. fracking- In the US, split estate lands, in which the surface and subsurface minerals are owned separately, are the exception. For privately owned land, they mostly result from the Stock-Raising Homestead Act. If land transferred from federal to private ownership by the particular process established by that act, it's split estate. Otherwise, it *probably* isn't. For RuPaul's husband's land in Wyoming... without further information, who knows? It might be split estate, it might not. If it is split estate, he might own both surface and subsurface, he might not. The fact that it's a ranch increases the odds of it being split estate, since the Stock-Raising Homestead Act was about, well, raising livestock. That act also applied to lands in the western US, so Wyoming increases the odds.
@aspidoscelis
@aspidoscelis 2 месяца назад
(I work in federal land management, so professionally I'm kind of adjacent to these issues.)
@tystkanin9996
@tystkanin9996 3 дня назад
Jinx Monsoon helped me get diagnosed correctly by showing her symptoms os narcolepsy on screen. Because I wasn't doing things like falling asleep in a bowl of soup making me a drowning risk or just dropping over in the middle of a party I hadn't even considered narcolepsy to be the cause of my excessive drowsiness. After I watched her season I went to a neurologist, did the sleep tests, and got diagnosed at 40. Being on narcolepsy medication has made an invaluable difference in my life.
@sylviatan6061
@sylviatan6061 2 месяца назад
Another great, fun and informative video to watch. Thanks, Jess.
@beckstheimpatient4135
@beckstheimpatient4135 2 месяца назад
Not to bring up a straight person too much, but Maddie is an AMAZING interviewer. I'm so glad Ru gave her a chance because she's absolutely fantastic. I learn more about queens from her interviews than I ever do on Drag Race. Her interview with Farah is a whole experience, and shows so much depth of character to someone who was always portrayed as the ditzy dumb blonde on the show.
@ellariel7457
@ellariel7457 2 месяца назад
Another thoughtful, insightful and well-researched history video!! Thank you! One note: I wouldn’t mention, but since you said you learned many drag queen names from written versions, wanted to offer one note. This concerns the pronunciation of the name of Crystal LaBeija. I believe it’s actually spoken as Crystal “La-Beige-ah,” honoring her background as a person of color. There is a more complete explanation of how her name evolved on her Wikipedia page.
@StevieCooper
@StevieCooper 14 дней назад
Last week I went to what I think of as an “old school” drag performance at a Melbourne bar called DT’s. This was the drag I grew up with in the mid-2000’s. I realise it’s not really old school, but it’s what I grew up with. Modern drag at newer clubs is very different. I appreciate both. But I didn’t realise how many different styles there are. I love being queer!
@vision_walker
@vision_walker Месяц назад
I forget which queen it was or what season, but the queens were to dress up as a known woman in media (not snatch game) and one queen went as Janelle Monet (who identified as woman publicly at the time, they have now come out as non-binary). Janelle notoriously wears men's suits, and so the queen wore a men's suit. AND SHE WAS ELIMINATED FOR IT. Because it wasn't "drag". Also that in earlier season, all trans queen were eliminated either the episode they came out or soon after. (at one point Alaska also played a masculine character in a play they put on for a challenge in her first season appearance, and she was also hounded about it) As well as purely going against masculinity in drag queen's performances. (there is also a lot of cultural appropriation in the earlier seasons, that has gone untalked about, as well as open racism. again, i forget which queen or season, but somebody called a black queen "the help" during a maxi challenge and when the queen voiced her discomfort, she was shut down.) Also with the lack of Drag King performers. I went to Toronto Pride in 2022, and this event was 80% drag kings, it was amazing. Drag kings are here, they are amazing, and undermined by the popularized drag community. at this point, i understand the show has gotten more progressive, but it's the complete SILENCE over their past wrong-doings that make me not want to watch the show. Nobody talks about these things, and it irks me. it's called rupaul's drag race, not rupaul's drag QUEEN race, and the lack of drag kings being in popular media is just maddening
@isoldadoesstuff
@isoldadoesstuff 2 месяца назад
I just saw the video of RuPaul not remembering the lyrics of Sissy that Walk and this popped up... so perfect 🤣
@jasonbteaches1542
@jasonbteaches1542 Месяц назад
This video is WONDERFUL, thank you for putting this info all in one place (and I always love your spin and sense of humour.
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