*Floor Update, Info & Truth bomb:* I always try to be as transparent as possible in order to help folks watching my videos. Just like you, I learn new things every day, and sometimes that new information changes the way I think about things. I am NOT sponsored by anyone, I pay for all the materials, equipment, and etc. in all of my videos. So, when I change my mind, it really is coming from me personally. The floor is still holding up fine, but who really knows for how long... For those that are curious, these big box store Rustoleum epoxy kits are never going to beat out a professional high solids coating. If you were to compare this kit to a properly installed polyaspartic floor, it would be like using a sheet of 1/2" plywood to stop a .50 cal bullet. No contest! Also, I used a really strong muriatic acid to etch my floor. I did NOT use the small citric acid pouches that came with the kit. The muriatic acid I used was probably orders of magnitude stronger than what came in those pouches. With that being said, there are no acids commercially available that are going to profile the concrete better than using a specifically designed floor grinder, and/or a floor shot blaster. These pieces of equipment, if used properly, profile the concrete in such a way that it allows the coating to effectively "bite" into the surface of the substrate creating those microscopic anchor points. Contrary to what some may believe, the first coat installed on the concrete is not a chemical bond, but purely a mechanical one. So, the better the profile, the better the coating will stick to the surface. It really is that simple. To sum it up, you are always going to be better off using a piece of equipment designed to profile concrete over any chemical etching processes. If I was going to do this floor all over again, which I may, I would definitely profile the concrete surface with equipment that was specifically designed for that purpose and not bother with acid etching. Then, I would purchase a much better 2-part, high solids, floor coating to go with the same awesome flakes. I just did the math, and it would have actually been cheaper to buy a MUCH better 2-part high solids coating from Colored Epoxies (same place I got the flakes). I could have just as easily installed that coating, saved some $$$, and not be worried about my floor failing at some point. TL;DR *My recommendations to you DIYers:* -Rent the proper flooring equipment to profile and clean the concrete surface -Buy a better 2-part high solids floor coating from a reputable supplier [like Colored Epoxies] -Ask the supplier specific questions and do a little research on your own -Have fun installing your new floor coating! Hopefully this was helpful. Cheers!
Hello, thanks for the video. I have taken your advice on the colored flakes. With you getting the high shine clear coating, was that a choice you made for a higher shine or is that required? It also says in the directions not to use the muriatic acid (i bought it anyway), do you think the supplied crystal acid is just not that good? Pls right back as soon as you can and thanks.
Quick question... I am looking to do a 47sqm garage floor with this product. Was there enough in the kit to do this? You would have had a lot left over with the smaller space but keen to know if you would think there would be enough.
I just wanna say thank you for the flakes recommendation. I just completed my garage using the same flakes, and I love the glitter shine. Made the whole project unique. I put it off for a while because I didn't want the typical out of the box Rust-Oleum flakes. Thanks again
This was by far one of the most informative videos I’ve seen. Initially, I had purchased the Rust-Oleum products. After reading your comments, I returned them and bought everything from Colored Epoxies. They were extremely helpful and a pleasure to work with. I received the first shipment the next day and was impressed with the packaging and their attention to detail. I’m still waiting for the chips (I ordered 50 lbs of the same that you used and they are made to order). They should be delivered tomorrow. I plan to do a full broadcast. I rented a grinder and prepped the floor last week. Hope to finish the floor this weekend. Thanks for all of the detailed info in this video!
Awesome video, we have a 3 car garage and we were quoted $8100 for polyurea and polyaspartic floor coating system. lol we are going to try this instead!!
Thanks for taking the time to put this video together. I have my entire kit sitting downstairs ready to be applied. Just wanted to do a bit more research before beginning. I'll definitely check out the company that you recommended for the flakes.
I just purchase the domino flake but from concrete supply wish I would’ve seen this first. It’s all good though I bought 2 cases of 12 lbs of Rustoleum glacier grey flakes for $150 so I returned them and spent the extra $60 on 50 lbs of flake. I’m going for full coverage on mine. Gonna be doing in a few weeks. Wish me luck
Thank you for the video! I am getting ready to do my garage and I really like the glitter! Is it necessary to do the clear coat? Would you recommend it?
Does this hold up to dog paws (nails)? Also, I just had concrete floor poured for my sunroom and it’s the rough texture concrete, so does that mean it’s already considered rough texture to hold on to this?
I agree, but I had to move my tools, welders, race car, project truck, and etc from my apartment on a tight deadline. Since the floor has stages and required cure times, I did it first. It all worked out in the end.
Congrats on the house! We move into our first house next week! So glad i found this video! How many pounds of flakes would you recommend for a 3 car garage? We will do a medium cast! Thank you!!
Are you referring to the carpet tiles? For some reason YT has your comment listed under the epoxy floor video. I’m not too concerned about spilling fuel on the carpet tiles since they don’t really absorb anything. If I spilled fuel I would just toss a pig mat over it, let it soak up all the fuel, and toss it. Then just let my garage air out like if I spilled on concrete. Also, if it’s REALLY bad, I would just pull up the contaminated tiles and replace them with the extras I had leftover.
@@Inner_Sanctum Sorry yes, referring to the carpeted tiles. I was watching all your videos and probably just commented on the wrong one. I’ve put off doing something with my garage floor for years because I hear these epoxies are generally garbage, and the one time I applied one in a shop it didn’t last. But the carpet seemed so cheap easy and effective if you can live with the drawbacks that it piqued my interest. Great channel btw. Good luck with all the projects
For my 2 Car Garage --- Is it a good idea to use 1) two coat of Epoxy [240 oz. Gray High-Gloss 2.5-Car Garage Floor Kit] and 2) full broadcast of 1/4" flakes 3) followed by two coat of Clear coat [90 oz. Clear High-Gloss 2-Part Epoxy Interior Low VOC Premium Concrete Garage Floor Top Coat Kit (2-Pack)]. I am little worried that regular epoxy from Rust-oleum don't stick well with full broadcast of flakes[ unlike solid expoxies] Please let me know your thoughts
Thanks for posting. How is floor holding up after a year? It looks like it’s about $500 for a 2 car garage. I’m curious, why didn’t you paint the ceiling and walls first?
Just order my flakes from the vendor you used. Can’t wait to apply this to our new house will be getting at the end of October. Will I have to degrease it or clean the concrete even if it’s a brand new built? Fresh concrete?
Awesome job. This is actually the best looking floor i've seen so far ) and i have watched a ton of these vids. Question - it thought the acid etching came in the kit. You said you had etched it before you opened the kit. What made you decide to use other. And what exactly did you use. Thats actually the biggest thing i am concerned with. A lot of videos say you absolutely need to use a concrete grinder instead of just acid.
Apologies, I did not see the notification for this comment. The citric acid that comes with the Rustoleum kit just isn't powerful enough to do anything really. I used nearly full strength muriatic acid to etch the concrete, but it is quite caustic to say the least. However, it's orders of magnitude stronger than what comes with the kit. With all that being said, you are never going to beat a properly profiled surface when using a floor scraper, floor grinder, and/or shot blaster. The profile left behind, after using these types of equipment properly, is MUCH more aggressive than anything commercially available acid is going to do. You are always going to have better adhesion characteristics when the concrete surface is profiled more aggressively. The first layer of epoxy is not bonded chemically to the concrete, it is bonded mechanically. So, the more the epoxy has to bite into and create those microscopic anchors, the harder it is going to stick to the substrate. Hope this helps. Cheers!
You mentioned you used epoxy shield before, did it hold up well to tires? I have applied this before and have had tires pull the coating off, coming in from a hot summer day drive. Could have also been an improper application on my part. Looks great though!
Well, this is what we used at our shop with great success. I have also applied it in a few other places as well. Hot tire pickup is a pretty big concern for me as it gets very hot here in South Texas and long drives can make the tires extra sticky. I haven’t personally had an instance of hot tire pickup with this stuff, which is exactly why I went back to it. I feel like the top coat is a must though. I did have an issue with Rock Solid, but I think that may have been my fault in prep, as well as I didn’t use a clear top coat for that particular project.
This looks good but it's not gona last long bcus u didn't prime the floor b4 putting on the epoxy, the primer stops moisture from coming up through the floor and causing lifting cracking bubbling etc.
I’ve done tons of these and as long as you do the plastic moisture test and it shows no moisture I’ve never had the paint fail so no you don’t have to prime you only use their primer over a previously painted surface that has failed the duct tape test.
Congrats on your house! I'm on the process of moving into a place and I been looking all over youtube for floor videos. It was great to see yours pop up. I see a lot of people use the rocksolid but you didn't like it. Did it come off shortly after using? Thank you so much for the links to the flake. I definitely had been seeing overpriced bags on the flakes. PS: also great to see a regular size garage that I can get a better idea for mine. Most on youtube are oversize or huge 2/3 car garages
Thanks! Glad I could help. The RockSolid wasn’t bad, but I did have hot tire pickup on the clear top coat. I did everything down to the letter. It may have just been a bad batch or just sat on the shelf at Home Depot too long. I have yet to have an issue with the standard EpoxyShield.
Anti-skid comes in the kit. It’s not required, and I didn’t add it. However, some people like to have it. Just a preference. If you’re not aware of a spill or liquid on the ground you could definitely slip without much effort.
Thanks for sharing! Quick question do you have any concern with the sun and uv on the clear coat? I leave my garage door open at least 2 hours a day and that's my only concern. Thanks again that's a great video and that floor looks great
That’s a very good question. Nowhere did I see anything regarding UV stability on the packaging. Epoxy resin does have a tendency to yellow over time if it’s not stabilized. The clear top coat is 100% solids, so it “should” resist color change. All I have to go on is past experience. We did this to my aunts back patio, in tan, about 2 years ago. The sun hits certain parts directly for about 4 hours a day. As of right now, the patio still looks uniform with no signs of yellowing.
No hot tire pickup or yellowing. The clear top coat is really good about that. It’s been between 102-107 for over a week now, and no tire related damage as of yet.
Hi everyone. I got a quote for 3200 with good company. But if i do it myself I am paying less than 900 with the things shown in this video. I would have to rent a grinder rather than etching bc I don't think the etching will work to smooth it as my concrete is very terrible. My question is for those who have done it this way and even the person who did this video, how are ur floors now? How long has it been.?
Hi boss, I real like your work!! god bless you. Can you help me find this type of the flakes you use (domino FB-411 3G2020 1/4"), I realy need this. the "colored epoxies" out of stock. and other source please.
